Nicely said Marj. Unfortunately most Australians and New Zealanders often overlook the fact that about 2 1/2 times their number of British Empire troops (not including ANZACs) died at Gallipoli, and are mostly unaware that three times their number of FRENCH soldiers also died at Gallipoli - such is the power of the gutter press and commercial media. People believe what they want to believe. Veritatem petite - seek the truth - should of course be every genealogists motto. David On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 03:53:10 +1000, Marj Bennett via <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Of all who died 100 years ago, including my grand father AB William > Hughes aged 35, who died this day, exactly four weeks after my mother > was born. > > Marj > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9615 - Release Date: 04/24/15 > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- ----- David Edwards -----

We have a postcard written to his mother by my husbands great uncle Harry Bagg, dated July 3, 1915, which ends "don't expect to hear from me for a week or two, but I'll write first chance I get, good bye, love from Harry". Six weeks later he was killed while fighting in Gallipoli, age 19. It doesn't matter what nationality he was, or what armed forces he was in, he was a terribly young human being who died fighting for his country. We should remember them all as such, and give thanks for their bravery. To me the postcard puts this in perspective. Linda

Of all who died 100 years ago, including my grand father AB William Hughes aged 35, who died this day, exactly four weeks after my mother was born. Marj ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9615 - Release Date: 04/24/15

Hi all Just released on Ancestry UK, WWI War Diaries (France, Belgium and Germany), 1914-1920 And UK, WWI War Diaries (Gallipoli and Dardanelles), 1914-1916 -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)

Many thanks Nivard for your helpful reply, I shall follow up your suggestions. Colin Chater

Hi Colin No eureka moment I am afraid John OWEN was 157975 Machine Gun Corps as you say and died 20th May 1919 at Bungeir Hospital Scotland (from the CWGC) The nearest I can find to that would be Bangour Hospital Edinburgh His medal card also states he was of the Loyal North Lancashire regt as 203642 Unfortunately the service number in some units did not help to establish where they served, the MGC, RASC, RAOC etc are just some of them I would suggest trying the available records for any man with a service number within ten of his, and who also served in the MGC, check any you find to see if there is a note of where that man served as its likely to be the same for your man The death cert may give more of a clue (but may not) it may say died of wounds or sickness etc As you are no doubt aware approx two thirds of service records were lost during WW2, John OWENs appear to be amongst those lost Originally each infantry regiment had its own machine gun sections, in 1915/16 the MGC came into being and those in the regiments mostly went over to the MGC, it could well be he started with the Lancs and was seconded to the MGC Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/04/2015 13:41, colin chater via wrote: > I am researching a soldier of WW1 for a community memorial project and am finding it difficult to ascertain the area of the conflict he may have served in. > The soldier is: John Owen > Service number : 157975 > Unit : Machine Gun Corp > > My question is; Is it possible to ascertain from the Service Number which Machine Gun Company he would have been assigned to, and then Battalion, Division etc. > > Hoping for a Eureka moment, > regards Colin Chater

I am researching a soldier of WW1 for a community memorial project and am finding it difficult to ascertain the area of the conflict he may have served in. The soldier is: John Owen Service number : 157975 Unit : Machine Gun Corp My question is; Is it possible to ascertain from the Service Number which Machine Gun Company he would have been assigned to, and then Battalion, Division etc. Hoping for a Eureka moment, regards Colin Chater

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I hope no one has tried to open that link from David Thomas - the message doesn't make sense so it looks as though his account has been hacked. I will look into it with Rootsweb. Marj ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4800 / Virus Database: 4311/9454 - Release Date: 04/04/15

On closer inspection, there is in fact a Nurlu, about 7 miles almost due east of Combles, with a Vaux Wood and a Riverside Wood (named Bois au Dessus de l'Eau on early trench maps) between. I was deceived by first finding another Vaux Wood at Vaux, a little down the R Somme from Curlu, but I am now quite satisfied that Nurlu fits the war diary description - though there is no sign of Hendecourt, so far. All the best, Ian On 08/03/15 13:06, Ian via wrote: > Thanks, Nivard - that does seem plausible. > > On 07/03/2015 20:00, Nivard Ovington via wrote: >> Hi Ian >> >> I suspect your Nurlu may be Curlu >> >>

On 08/03/2015 13:06, Ian via wrote: > Sadly I've not found any trench maps on line for the area. I have now! http://maps.nls.uk/view/101465278 Ian

Thanks, Nivard - that does seem plausible. I'd got as far as thinking Hendecourt might be Hardecourt, but hadn't made the connection to Curlu. Sadly I've not found any trench maps on line for the area. Best wishes, Ian On 07/03/2015 20:00, Nivard Ovington via wrote: > Hi Ian > > I suspect your Nurlu may be Curlu > > Hardecourt Aux Bois is between Maurepas and Maricourt, and Curlu is > South of it by a waterway > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > > On 07/03/2015 19:01, Ian via wrote: >> My apologies for another newbie enquiry.... >> >> Sydney Schwabe of 6th Bn., The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) was >> killed in action, 7th Sept 1918 and is buried at Fins. Both the CWGC >> website and his service record record that his body was re-buried there >> having been located among a small group of other fallen. The location of >> his original grave is given as 57c. W.26. D.1.5., also described as >> 500yds south of Hendecourt. The war diary for the day of his death has a >> sparse account of the battalion at Riverside Wood near Combles, France >> moving to a bank in front of NURLU, and later to W.26.b.45, and >> headquarters moving to W.26.a.2.4 due to heavy shelling. >> >> My efforts to locate the scene of this action on any on-line sources of >> trench maps, or on modern maps of the Combles area have been confusing >> and unsuccessful. Can anyone on list help me, please? >> >> With many thanks, >> >> Ian > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ian I suspect your Nurlu may be Curlu Hardecourt Aux Bois is between Maurepas and Maricourt, and Curlu is South of it by a waterway Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 07/03/2015 19:01, Ian via wrote: > My apologies for another newbie enquiry.... > > Sydney Schwabe of 6th Bn., The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) was > killed in action, 7th Sept 1918 and is buried at Fins. Both the CWGC > website and his service record record that his body was re-buried there > having been located among a small group of other fallen. The location of > his original grave is given as 57c. W.26. D.1.5., also described as > 500yds south of Hendecourt. The war diary for the day of his death has a > sparse account of the battalion at Riverside Wood near Combles, France > moving to a bank in front of NURLU, and later to W.26.b.45, and > headquarters moving to W.26.a.2.4 due to heavy shelling. > > My efforts to locate the scene of this action on any on-line sources of > trench maps, or on modern maps of the Combles area have been confusing > and unsuccessful. Can anyone on list help me, please? > > With many thanks, > > Ian

My apologies for another newbie enquiry.... Sydney Schwabe of 6th Bn., The Queen's (Royal West Surrey Regiment) was killed in action, 7th Sept 1918 and is buried at Fins. Both the CWGC website and his service record record that his body was re-buried there having been located among a small group of other fallen. The location of his original grave is given as 57c. W.26. D.1.5., also described as 500yds south of Hendecourt. The war diary for the day of his death has a sparse account of the battalion at Riverside Wood near Combles, France moving to a bank in front of NURLU, and later to W.26.b.45, and headquarters moving to W.26.a.2.4 due to heavy shelling. My efforts to locate the scene of this action on any on-line sources of trench maps, or on modern maps of the Combles area have been confusing and unsuccessful. Can anyone on list help me, please? With many thanks, Ian

Thank you so much. Paddy Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Mar 2015, at 21:55, Nivard Ovington via <ww1-uk@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hi Paddy > > From the CWGC > > First World War > > 4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921 > > Second World War > > 3 September 1939 to 31 December 1947 > > Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) > >> On 06/03/2015 20:21, Patricia Treves via wrote: >> I have instances of soldiers returning to UK during or after the war from >> wounds or from pneumonia .and subsequently dying in the UK. How long is the >> period of time that they are recognised as war casualties and not as >> civilian deaths? >> >> i would be grateful for advice. >> >> Paddy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WW1-UK-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paddy From the CWGC First World War 4 August 1914 to 31 August 1921 Second World War 3 September 1939 to 31 December 1947 Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) On 06/03/2015 20:21, Patricia Treves via wrote: > I have instances of soldiers returning to UK during or after the war from > wounds or from pneumonia .and subsequently dying in the UK. How long is the > period of time that they are recognised as war casualties and not as > civilian deaths? > > i would be grateful for advice. > > Paddy

I have instances of soldiers returning to UK during or after the war from wounds or from pneumonia .and subsequently dying in the UK. How long is the period of time that they are recognised as war casualties and not as civilian deaths? i would be grateful for advice. Paddy

Many thanks for all the useful suggestions. I’ll rung them past family members and see what they want to do. How did I forget Barter Books! I always get good support from members on this site for which I am grateful. Best wishes, Mary --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Anyone with an interest in the first war and or machinery of the period may enjoy watching the following, I know I did https://www.youtube.com/embed/huQhqXiB8O0 -- Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK)