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Thanks for address and telephone number of Pat Adams. JUST had a long conversation with her and it SEEMS we are distant related. Interesting it led to Ole Pol Green who lived across from the Old Wagon Graveyard at the confluence of Barkers Creek and the Guyandotte Will be sending 5 copies of the Goode Ledger CD when released. **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

I've got a name and address if that would help. Pat Adams Wyoming County Genealogical Society Box 1186 Pineville, WV 24874 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 10:47 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WVWYOMIN] (no subject) Would like to contact someone with the Genealogical or Historical Society in Wyoming County. Lee Hash Culpeper, Va **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The 2nd edition of the "Wyoming County Heritage" book published by the Wyoming County Genealogical Society is in the process of being published. If the Bowman book contains a lot of errors, does anyone know how accurate the info is in the Heritage book? I've got the Bowman book and am getting the Heritage one, so guess I can compare the info I need in the 2 books then check the records to see but could end up with multiple dates, names etc. Dates on birth certs, death certs, tombstones and Bibles seem to be all over the place. How can you be certain of any of them? I know this is Wyoming Cty's site, but my Milam ties are in both counties. I've got the Raleigh County West Virginia book by Jim Wood. Does anyone know of any other Raleigh County history books that might help in research in Raleigh County? Genness

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Good morning Lee, In my opinion, the ledger you have put into CD form is great. I fall far short to claiming historian experience and I agree that his errors should remain unchanged, and perhaps an introductory page would suffice, making note, as opposed to making footnotes on each page which contains the errors. I found it to be interesting, and you have done a great job in assembling and presenting those records. I appreciate that you gave me the opportunity to review the writings and make comments. In my humble opinion I say go with it. If there is any thing further that I can do for you, please advise. Stay well and warm up there in Culpeper. Ed **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

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Good Morning Barbe Cook. It was down to 11 degrees here in Culpeper this Morning. Yes, I noted a couple of "errors" when transcribing Goode's Ledger. But it is proper to not correct his writings as such. I should have made footnotes however at the time. Joel also points out an incorrect date Goode made in the formation of Wyoming County. We note that Bowman "carried over" some of his errors when she released the History of Wyoming County. She used a few of the MANY ledgers of Goode when her book was published. Several of his works have been destroyed by "mice". I hasten to add that the CD was transcribed from one of his Ledgers which has not been "seen" or released to this date. This Ledger began on New Year's Day back in 1930. Question now as should the CD of his records be released with these few errors and/or perhaps a statement in the introductory page surfice. Thanks to you and Ed Davidson for reviewing his works, Lee **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

Genness, The Heritage book is written by individuals contributing about their families, based on their family research and family records. It is a very valuable tool, as is the Bowman book and others. They are all excellent resources, and a good place to get information to start with, and verify for yourself. Everyone's work has errors in it, we are human, we make mistakes. I try to watch for typos as I am entering data like dates, but it happens. Sometimes mistakes were made by the family member reporting a death, or a company doctor who turned in birth records in "bulk" for all the babies he delivered in a certain time period. Sometimes mistakes were made by census takers who wrote down names and ages of families they "knew" without actually going to the house, because it was easier. For me the "investigative" aspect of genealogy is the most fun. I take information from any and every resource I can find, and work with it, never accept it as gospel, but use it as a tool as I piece together my family jigsaw puzzle. Karen Brooks Willey Genness Addenbrook <[email protected]> wrote: The 2nd edition of the "Wyoming County Heritage" book published by the Wyoming County Genealogical Society is in the process of being published. If the Bowman book contains a lot of errors, does anyone know how accurate the info is in the Heritage book? I've got the Bowman book and am getting the Heritage one, so guess I can compare the info I need in the 2 books then check the records to see but could end up with multiple dates, names etc. Dates on birth certs, death certs, tombstones and Bibles seem to be all over the place. How can you be certain of any of them? I know this is Wyoming Cty's site, but my Milam ties are in both counties. I've got the Raleigh County West Virginia book by Jim Wood. Does anyone know of any other Raleigh County history books that might help in research in Raleigh County? Genness ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Thanks Arthur..... You always come thru. I've been trying to figure out this Black Oak Mtn Cemetery FOREVER!! I must have plenty of graves to look for in that one!!! Hopefully someone can confirm & I'll make a trip up there. If there is anyone out there who lives close, please let me know!!! I am looking for those of Rosa Hawks Ballard Perdue & John Perdue, as well as the Velvie listed below. I assume other family members may be there as well. I visited one old cemetery on the Kegly side, up on a hill that was overgrown. A gentleman was trimming & cutting away tall grass (last summer). We also got .... well, I'll put it this way.... told very strongly that we had parked on this man's property & he was not happy. (There wasn't any place to park). Looked like 2 or three cemeteries that had maybe split from 1. I'm thinking that this was not the one Arthur is discussing to be the specific location. Look forward to hearing if anyone knows for sure. Thanks to all!!! Melissa. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arthur Davidson Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2008 4:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WVWYOMIN] John Wesley Farmer burial Help me out here a little bit, you all ---- I am leaning toward the following info to be the burial location of John Wesley Farmer of primarily your current discussion. The cemetery transcription reads:: John W. Farmer, 1924-1978, at the Johnston Cemetery, Black Oak Mtn., Mercer County, West Virginia. Note the year 1924, which I believe may be in error, and possibly would read in the 1904 era. I submit the following information from contributor Karen, with my reasoning below the quote: Karen Willey; Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 8:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue From the June 20, 1958 Beckley Post-Herald: J. Farmer Has Worked With Railroad SS Years; HERNDON. June 19 (KS5); John Wesley Farmer, 54. has been working on the railroad for a long time--33 years to be exact, as of June 16. The veteran section hand is proud of the record he has accumucumulated since he began work for the Virginian Railway at Kegley near his native home at *****Black Oak, Mercer County*****. <SNIP> Reasoning with very little evidence: John's birth in the above info extrapolates to be 1904. His age in 1910 census is 5, and in the 1920 as 15. John's home place was the Black Oak Mtn. territory. Will you join me in considering that either the cemetery transcription, or, the tombstone date may be incorrect? For those of you who are not acquainted with the geography of the area of this cemetery --- today, from the community of Rock on Route 71, at the end of the new concrete bridge across Bluestone River, a road leads off going up the mountain. This is the higher elevation, [rather than the road thru the valley alongside the River coming out near the Shawnee Lake, then going south on Route 10, up the hills to Kegley], scenic route from Rock to Kegley[being approximately north of Princeton a few miles]. This route over the hills leads to the Johnston Cemetery. A more interesting quaint explanation would describe the natural and man-made beauty of 65 years ago. Walk gently through the past. Arthur ------------------------- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Happy New Year Lee... Sorry for the delay in answering your email. Now that the holidays are over I can get busy again. I don't really have any Toliver information in Wyoming County. The only thing I have is the death of Hiram Toliver, 27 Dec 1895. I don't know where, other than the county. My connection to Wyoming County is through the fact that I lived there when I went to Kopperston elementary school. I remember Mr. Stewart, the principal, Miss Byrd the music teacher, and Miss Carrie Halsey my 5th grade teacher. In 1953 we moved to California but would return to Kopperston when we made the trip to WV to visit family and friends. When I started genealogical research in 1980 I was led to some of my Sizemore, Lambert, Workman and Mitchem lines. They seem to have been in Wyoming county for a long time. Kathy in California BTW, do you have information on Lulu Miriam HASH m Eli Roscoe ANDERSON or Sarah Jane HASH m Timothy A ANDERSON? Thanks for any help you can give. A family tree is worth bragging about only if it produces good timber and not just nuts! ----- Original Message ---- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 6:25:55 PM Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Jesse Toliver Kathy I just downloaded Jesse Toliver's Pension App. and wished to share. But see I'm behind things. Could use copies etc. of Wyoming County Toliver families if you could share. Will add same to the book I am working on "Pioneer Families" of Wyoming Co Thanks Lee **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping

Help me out here a little bit, you all ---- I am leaning toward the following info to be the burial location of John Wesley Farmer of primarily your current discussion. The cemetery transcription reads:: John W. Farmer, 1924-1978, at the Johnston Cemetery, Black Oak Mtn., Mercer County, West Virginia. Note the year 1924, which I believe may be in error, and possibly would read in the 1904 era. I submit the following information from contributor Karen, with my reasoning below the quote: Karen Willey; Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 8:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue From the June 20, 1958 Beckley Post-Herald: J. Farmer Has Worked With Railroad SS Years; HERNDON. June 19 (KS5); John Wesley Farmer, 54. has been working on the railroad for a long time--33 years to be exact, as of June 16. The veteran section hand is proud of the record he has accumucumulated since he began work for the Virginian Railway at Kegley near his native home at *****Black Oak, Mercer County*****. <SNIP> Reasoning with very little evidence: John's birth in the above info extrapolates to be 1904. His age in 1910 census is 5, and in the 1920 as 15. John's home place was the Black Oak Mtn. territory. Will you join me in considering that either the cemetery transcription, or, the tombstone date may be incorrect? For those of you who are not acquainted with the geography of the area of this cemetery --- today, from the community of Rock on Route 71, at the end of the new concrete bridge across Bluestone River, a road leads off going up the mountain. This is the higher elevation, [rather than the road thru the valley alongside the River coming out near the Shawnee Lake, then going south on Route 10, up the hills to Kegley], scenic route from Rock to Kegley[being approximately north of Princeton a few miles]. This route over the hills leads to the Johnston Cemetery. A more interesting quaint explanation would describe the natural and man-made beauty of 65 years ago. Walk gently through the past. Arthur -------------------------

A better description, I can't imagine of the revivals.  Although I will always love the music with which I was reared, and there is nothing better than a good southern gospel quartet, I chose the Episcopal Church as an adult, and without casting aspersions, part of the reason was because of the services I attended as a child. -----Original Message----- From: Stanley Browning <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Business Source <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 6:17 pm Subject: [WVWYOMIN] More About Church This will be my last one about church- I promise. STAN Revival meetings were special times, a real win-win situation. Young eople looked forward to them because many youngsters, particularly irls, were never allowed to go anywhere but church. Not only did he young people have two weeks extra during which they could meet nd know one another, the evangelists were served up with a house ull of young pagans in need of salvation. Salvation, as often as ot, did not stick, and many backslidden Christians came back again nd again from one revival to the next for refresher courses. A typical revival meeting began with lots of singing. Several boys ould be found lining the back pews on either side of the aisle. The wayward” girls of the community chose seats in the pews directly in ront of the boys, while, except for an occasional glance back at the ogue’s gallery, the “good” girls sat dutifully by their mothers arther up front. After some extremely emotional singing and the ood was set, the visiting evangelist began to preach. And he reached. And he preached, and .... . By the time he passed Psalms n his way through the Bible, I was ready to bail out. Too many of ur Appalachian self-trained preachers liked to ramble a lot. Finally, just before he was totally exhausted, the evangelist, ssisted by leaders of the church, extended an alter call. The ongregation began singing “Just as I Am” and dedicated church embers spread out all over the church in search of people who showed igns of “being under conviction.” The back rows became very rowded, as Christians and sinners met. Members stood and talked at ength to the ones they had targeted in efforts to get them to “walk he aisle” and give their hearts to Jesus. No “unsaved” person scaped these confrontations. This was always a very uncomfortable ime for me as I felt no desire to put myself on display and be mbarrassed in front of all those people by going up front and umbling myself at the alter. I believe some may have responded as a eans of getting rid of their tormentors. In typical fashion two lady church members were discussing a previous ight’s service. One was heard to explain how hard my friend Virgil ad resisted the Holy Spirit. She said, “ He held onto the pew in ront of him so tight that his knuckles were blue and I thought he ould break the pew.” Virgil’s account was different, “How could I isten to the Holy Spirit when all I could think of was how pretty he was.” When everyone was tired of singing a bunch of sad songs, and it was bvious that all unsaved persons left standing had hardened their earts, and got a good grip on the back of the pew in front of them, ll the Christians gathered around those kneeling at the alter and rayed until they had all “prayed through.” If they prayed an nordinate amount of time with an individual, everyone knew they were ealing with one evil dude. At the conclusion, each of those saved as expected to give a testimony. Many spoke of their wicked pasts s if they were proud of them, and each speaker seemed to outdo the revious one by explaining how much more wicked he was and why God ad to perform a particularly difficult miracle to turn him around. t could be a very long night. If they had got Virgil up front, the ervice would surely have lasted until dawn, and then there may have een a sin or two that he forgot to mention. The revivals always lasted for two weeks and culminated on the last unday with baptisms of the new believers in the Laurel Fork out ehind the church. Many revivals ended with dinner on the ground. or anyone familiar with potluck meals and rural West Virginia pride n cooking, I need not elaborate further than to say it was the ighlight of the year. Jesus himself must have been proud of his ervants; they could have served him well at the feeding of the five housand. My light-hearted descriptions may appear sacrilegious to some. owever, it is not my intention to poke fun at anyone. These people, any of whom I idolized as a youth, were serious about carrying out od’s commands as they understood them. I don’t think I have altered ny facts or fictionalized any attitudes; what I have described is a ypical “ole timey” church revival in Appalachia in the 1940’s. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Parents of John Wesley Farmer seem to be the following: CENSUS, 1910 Federal, Mercer County, West Virginia; Beaver Pond District 119, sheet 8B, [HQ19]. Register lists: James J. H. Farmer, head of HH, age 30, farm laborer odd jobs, married once 8years; Annie M., wife, age 28, married once 8years, 4/4 children living; Dora A., daughter, age 6; John W., son, age 5; Bessie M., daughter, age 2; Gilbert R., son, age 1. ----------------------- CENSUS, 1920 Federal, Mercer County, West Virginia; Rock District 104, sheet 6B, [HQ9]. Register lists: James H. Farmer, head of HH, age 38, owns farm; L??? E., wife, age 27; Doris K., daughter, age 18; John W., son, age 15; B??? M., daughter, age 12; Gilbert R., son, age 10. ----------------------- From: "Karen Willey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Melissa, Who was John Wesley Farmer's parents? I am related to the Farmer's also. -------------------------------

Sorry for my two prior mistakes posting previous exchanges. Has anyone located Velvie[Velma, Velva, Velmie] Perdue Coburn [Cobern, Coeburn] in the 1930 Federal Census records? Seems that she was about age 17, having a daughter, when her husband, Robert Coburn, age about 46, died in 1929, in my home town of Montcalm, WV, from injuries falling off of a wagon. Her father's death certificate lists her as a Kinzer. Her mother's DC lists her as a Perdue. Her DC and obituary list her as a Coburn. Arthur Davidson ---------------------------- On Behalf Of Rita O'Brien Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Melissa, Perhaps below is Velmie? 1920 United States Federal Census Name: John Perdue Home in 1920: Rock, Mercer, West Virginia Age: 54 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: North Carolina Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Rosa E Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Household Members: Name Age John Perdue 54 Rosa E Perdue 48 Gracie Perdue 15 *****Velvie Perdue 7 ---------------------------------

----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis & Melissa Long To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Thanks so much. I had the census info, but not that obit & death cert. I have searched those death certs a million times & not come up with those & didn't know about that site where you got the obit. Thanks so much. You just added another sister to the info that I couldn't verify. Merry Christmas, Melissa P.S. I have to send my emails from an alternate email address while I am in TN at my family home due to a lack of broadband connection. Hope that is not confusing. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rita O'Brien Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Melissa, Perhaps below is Velmie? In 1900, Rosa appears in Mercer County widowed (4 children/3 living). The image is hard to read but the children appear to be: Pearlie M., Ballard born Mar 1891 Vinie V. Ballard Mar 1895 William E. Ballard Mar 1896 In 1910, this same Rosa appears in Mercer County with John Perdue. Both are reported as being married twice. The index looks like this: 1910 United States Federal Census Name: John Perdue Age in 1910: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Birthplace: North Carolina Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: North Carolina Mother's Birth Place: North Carolina Spouse's Name: Rosa Home in 1910: Thornhill, Mercer, West Virginia Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age John Perdue 45 Rosa Perdue 40 Mary L Perdue 8 Gracie V V Perdue 5 William E Ballard 14 stepson In 1920, Velvie does appear in the household. 1920 United States Federal Census Name: John Perdue Home in 1920: Rock, Mercer, West Virginia Age: 54 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: North Carolina Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Rosa E Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Household Members: Name Age John Perdue 54 Rosa E Perdue 48 Gracie Perdue 15 Velvie Perdue 7 In 1930, John and Rosa are still in Mercer County. Estil Ballard appears to be next door. Hope this helps. Rita The Post-Herald Beckley, West Virginia Tuesday Morning May 31, 1949 VELMA COBURN DEATH VICTIM HERNDON, May 30 ---- Mrs. Velma Mae Coburn, 47, of Herndon, died at 5 a.m. Sunday at a Beckley hospital. She is survived by her daughter, Miss Virginia Mae Coburn of Herndon and a sister, Mrs. Grace Farmer, also of Herndon. The body will be removed from the Rose Funeral home to Princeton Tuesday and services will be held at the Church of God at 2 p.m. with the Rev. Caliahan officiating. Burial will follow in the Black Oak Mountain cemetery. Click here to view her death record. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=756529&Type=Death It appears that Velma's husband died in Mercer County. On his death certificate, she is listed as " Velvie Perdue" or something similar to Perdue. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=1923039&Type=Death ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Willey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Melissa, I found the following on newspaperarchive.com and thought you would find them interesting. Who was John Wesley Farmer's parents? I am related to the Farmer's also. From the May 2, 1952 Raleigh Register: WANTED settled middle aged white woman, not over 50 to make home with couple, help light housework. $5 weekly, room and board. If interested call in person or phone Mullens 95-J-3, Mrs. J. Wesley Farmer. Herndon. From the May 22, 1952 Raleigh Register: WANTED white or colored woman, age 30 to 50 to make home with couple and help with light housework. Contact Mrs. Wesley Farmer, Herndon, W Va. From the June 20, 1958 Beckley Post-Herald: J. Farmer Has Worked With Railroad SS Years ' HERNDON. June 19 (KS5)- John Wesley Farmer, 54. has been working on the railroad for a long time--33 years to be exact, as of June 16. The veteran section hand is proud of the record he has accumu_ cumulated since he began work for _ the Virginian Railway at Kegley near his native home at Black Oak, Mercer County. Although he tried it for a time in a relief role, John Wesley passed up the opportunity of becoming a section foreman because it ran him all over the line and kept him away from home and his wife, Grace. He has been at Herndon for the past 18 years. From the Feb. 24, 1966 Raleigh Register: 15 Freight Cars Derail At Herndon Fifteen freight cars of the Norfolk and Western Railway Co., had to be lifted by crane back on the track after their derailment at Herndon Thursday. The cars, headed for the Elmore yard, began leaving the track at the east end of the bridge at Herndon High School about 5 a. m., continued across the bridge, and caused damage to a porch, garage and automobile. Witnesses said the porch of a house occupied by Wesley Farmer was struck by a freight car and a garage demolished. The car parked inside the garage was damaged. Cause of the derailment could not be learned. Workmen had the tracks clear by 4:30 p.m. Melissa Ballard Long <[email protected]> wrote: My Ballard line seems to be mostly from Mercer Co, via Carroll Co, Virginia. William H. Ballard died between 1895 & 1900. His wife, Rosa Hawks Ballard, remarried to John Perdue (Pardue & lots of other variants). In addition to Roslie, Viney & William Estel, children by William Henry Ballard, Rosa had children with John Perdue. Seems they were Mary, Gracie & possible Velvie. Gracie married a Wesley Farmer & they lived in Herndon. I have spoken via email, with one nice lady whose father worked with Wesley on the railroad. Gracie had a daughter who evidently moved to Baltimore & it seems that Gracie moved there in her later years. I am trying to find out more on these families. Some other names that may come into play, according to an obituary, are Kinzer & Harmon. If anyone can help me with any additional info, I would greatly appreciate that! 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----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis & Melissa Long To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Thanks so much. I had the census info, but not that obit & death cert. I have searched those death certs a million times & not come up with those & didn't know about that site where you got the obit. Thanks so much. You just added another sister to the info that I couldn't verify. Merry Christmas, Melissa P.S. I have to send my emails from an alternate email address while I am in TN at my family home due to a lack of broadband connection. Hope that is not confusing. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rita O'Brien Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2007 5:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Melissa, Perhaps below is Velmie? In 1900, Rosa appears in Mercer County widowed (4 children/3 living). The image is hard to read but the children appear to be: Pearlie M., Ballard born Mar 1891 Vinie V. Ballard Mar 1895 William E. Ballard Mar 1896 In 1910, this same Rosa appears in Mercer County with John Perdue. Both are reported as being married twice. The index looks like this: 1910 United States Federal Census Name: John Perdue Age in 1910: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865 Birthplace: North Carolina Relation to Head of House: Head Father's Birth Place: North Carolina Mother's Birth Place: North Carolina Spouse's Name: Rosa Home in 1910: Thornhill, Mercer, West Virginia Marital Status: Married Race: White Gender: Male Household Members: Name Age John Perdue 45 Rosa Perdue 40 Mary L Perdue 8 Gracie V V Perdue 5 William E Ballard 14 stepson In 1920, Velvie does appear in the household. 1920 United States Federal Census Name: John Perdue Home in 1920: Rock, Mercer, West Virginia Age: 54 years Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Birthplace: North Carolina Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Rosa E Marital Status: Married Race: White Sex: Male Household Members: Name Age John Perdue 54 Rosa E Perdue 48 Gracie Perdue 15 Velvie Perdue 7 In 1930, John and Rosa are still in Mercer County. Estil Ballard appears to be next door. Hope this helps. Rita The Post-Herald Beckley, West Virginia Tuesday Morning May 31, 1949 VELMA COBURN DEATH VICTIM HERNDON, May 30 ---- Mrs. Velma Mae Coburn, 47, of Herndon, died at 5 a.m. Sunday at a Beckley hospital. She is survived by her daughter, Miss Virginia Mae Coburn of Herndon and a sister, Mrs. Grace Farmer, also of Herndon. The body will be removed from the Rose Funeral home to Princeton Tuesday and services will be held at the Church of God at 2 p.m. with the Rev. Caliahan officiating. Burial will follow in the Black Oak Mountain cemetery. Click here to view her death record. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=756529&Type=Death It appears that Velma's husband died in Mercer County. On his death certificate, she is listed as " Velvie Perdue" or something similar to Perdue. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=1923039&Type=Death ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Willey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [WVWYOMIN] Roll Call - Ballard, Farmer, Perdue Melissa, I found the following on newspaperarchive.com and thought you would find them interesting. Who was John Wesley Farmer's parents? I am related to the Farmer's also. From the May 2, 1952 Raleigh Register: WANTED settled middle aged white woman, not over 50 to make home with couple, help light housework. $5 weekly, room and board. If interested call in person or phone Mullens 95-J-3, Mrs. J. Wesley Farmer. Herndon. From the May 22, 1952 Raleigh Register: WANTED white or colored woman, age 30 to 50 to make home with couple and help with light housework. Contact Mrs. Wesley Farmer, Herndon, W Va. From the June 20, 1958 Beckley Post-Herald: J. Farmer Has Worked With Railroad SS Years ' HERNDON. June 19 (KS5)- John Wesley Farmer, 54. has been working on the railroad for a long time--33 years to be exact, as of June 16. The veteran section hand is proud of the record he has accumu_ cumulated since he began work for _ the Virginian Railway at Kegley near his native home at Black Oak, Mercer County. Although he tried it for a time in a relief role, John Wesley passed up the opportunity of becoming a section foreman because it ran him all over the line and kept him away from home and his wife, Grace. He has been at Herndon for the past 18 years. From the Feb. 24, 1966 Raleigh Register: 15 Freight Cars Derail At Herndon Fifteen freight cars of the Norfolk and Western Railway Co., had to be lifted by crane back on the track after their derailment at Herndon Thursday. The cars, headed for the Elmore yard, began leaving the track at the east end of the bridge at Herndon High School about 5 a. m., continued across the bridge, and caused damage to a porch, garage and automobile. Witnesses said the porch of a house occupied by Wesley Farmer was struck by a freight car and a garage demolished. The car parked inside the garage was damaged. Cause of the derailment could not be learned. Workmen had the tracks clear by 4:30 p.m. Melissa Ballard Long <[email protected]> wrote: My Ballard line seems to be mostly from Mercer Co, via Carroll Co, Virginia. William H. Ballard died between 1895 & 1900. His wife, Rosa Hawks Ballard, remarried to John Perdue (Pardue & lots of other variants). In addition to Roslie, Viney & William Estel, children by William Henry Ballard, Rosa had children with John Perdue. Seems they were Mary, Gracie & possible Velvie. Gracie married a Wesley Farmer & they lived in Herndon. I have spoken via email, with one nice lady whose father worked with Wesley on the railroad. Gracie had a daughter who evidently moved to Baltimore & it seems that Gracie moved there in her later years. I am trying to find out more on these families. Some other names that may come into play, according to an obituary, are Kinzer & Harmon. If anyone can help me with any additional info, I would greatly appreciate that! 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This will be my last one about church- I promise. STAN Revival meetings were special times, a real win-win situation. Young people looked forward to them because many youngsters, particularly girls, were never allowed to go anywhere but church. Not only did the young people have two weeks extra during which they could meet and know one another, the evangelists were served up with a house full of young pagans in need of salvation. Salvation, as often as not, did not stick, and many backslidden Christians came back again and again from one revival to the next for refresher courses. A typical revival meeting began with lots of singing. Several boys could be found lining the back pews on either side of the aisle. The “wayward” girls of the community chose seats in the pews directly in front of the boys, while, except for an occasional glance back at the rogue’s gallery, the “good” girls sat dutifully by their mothers farther up front. After some extremely emotional singing and the mood was set, the visiting evangelist began to preach. And he preached. And he preached, and .... . By the time he passed Psalms on his way through the Bible, I was ready to bail out. Too many of our Appalachian self-trained preachers liked to ramble a lot. Finally, just before he was totally exhausted, the evangelist, assisted by leaders of the church, extended an alter call. The congregation began singing “Just as I Am” and dedicated church members spread out all over the church in search of people who showed signs of “being under conviction.” The back rows became very crowded, as Christians and sinners met. Members stood and talked at length to the ones they had targeted in efforts to get them to “walk the aisle” and give their hearts to Jesus. No “unsaved” person escaped these confrontations. This was always a very uncomfortable time for me as I felt no desire to put myself on display and be embarrassed in front of all those people by going up front and humbling myself at the alter. I believe some may have responded as a means of getting rid of their tormentors. In typical fashion two lady church members were discussing a previous night’s service. One was heard to explain how hard my friend Virgil had resisted the Holy Spirit. She said, “ He held onto the pew in front of him so tight that his knuckles were blue and I thought he would break the pew.” Virgil’s account was different, “How could I listen to the Holy Spirit when all I could think of was how pretty she was.” When everyone was tired of singing a bunch of sad songs, and it was obvious that all unsaved persons left standing had hardened their hearts, and got a good grip on the back of the pew in front of them, all the Christians gathered around those kneeling at the alter and prayed until they had all “prayed through.” If they prayed an inordinate amount of time with an individual, everyone knew they were dealing with one evil dude. At the conclusion, each of those saved was expected to give a testimony. Many spoke of their wicked pasts as if they were proud of them, and each speaker seemed to outdo the previous one by explaining how much more wicked he was and why God had to perform a particularly difficult miracle to turn him around. It could be a very long night. If they had got Virgil up front, the service would surely have lasted until dawn, and then there may have been a sin or two that he forgot to mention. The revivals always lasted for two weeks and culminated on the last Sunday with baptisms of the new believers in the Laurel Fork out behind the church. Many revivals ended with dinner on the ground. For anyone familiar with potluck meals and rural West Virginia pride in cooking, I need not elaborate further than to say it was the highlight of the year. Jesus himself must have been proud of his servants; they could have served him well at the feeding of the five thousand. My light-hearted descriptions may appear sacrilegious to some. However, it is not my intention to poke fun at anyone. These people, many of whom I idolized as a youth, were serious about carrying out God’s commands as they understood them. I don’t think I have altered any facts or fictionalized any attitudes; what I have described is a typical “ole timey” church revival in Appalachia in the 1940’s.