Jennifer, I am so sorry for the hurt and pain that was inflicted on you by an asinine member of a list. This really upsets me because they critisized your for your lack of Netiquette!! There is no worse lapse of ANY etiquette, Net or other, that to openly down grade another human being on the public level. That is the rudes, most UNCOUTH thing a person can do. I can't understand these people that are complaining about minute things on the computer and taking up 10-fold more net space and time that the other person. To be honest, I would take the person on as not being a true genealogist at heart. These genealogy ignorant people would know that all good genealogists have got there by talking,and talking, and talking. We have to consider a large spectrum of related - or really unrelated information to cull out one good lead hopefully. It is time that we list members take a stand against these people to make sure-as best we can-that their hurt inflicting attitudes get nipped in the bud. We have got some that are going from list to list just trying to stir up a big load of c - - -! And believe me!! I have been anything but immune to it. I am not the type to sit back and take it or let "friends" or anyone take abuse of any sort without taking a stand. God made me this way and it' s too late to change now!! I was so sorry to hear of your father. My family has been "trying" to come to turns and cope with about the same situation. On April 21, 1998 my 23 yr.old nephew--who had been in the military and also got his degrees in computer technology. He could take a little space and make it into a spectacular component. He had a spat with a girlfriend and came in to the house. He talked to people about an upcoming movie on TV and he had just bought a new video game and had made a date with some people to try it out. My brother got up to go to work at 3:30am and saw his light on, his car was out front, so my brother opened the door of his bedroom and saw a leg sticking out of the closet. He had hung hisself on the closet rod!! My husband, being in law enforcement all of his adult life was the 1st one they called aftree EMS. The call came in and I knew it was about Little Joey but I thought it was definately a car accident. When my husband turned and said no and told me ... I just screamed and hit him yelling no!! no! We had all just been together a few hours before. They lived right down from us and across the street from my parents. We are still to this day beating ourselves up with the whys and what ifs. He left note, he gave none of the "usual" signs. Some say he might have been using nitrous oxide-laughing gas and as he was passing out, his right leg slipped out from under him and he was too far gone to be able to pull is self out. Just graduated college and had a good job at Jabil electronics and was in training as a supervisor. He had never married, just going for his goals. A minute never goes by that he is not foremost in my mind. I can't shut my eyes at night without seeing his smiling, laughing face. I will get in trouble for writing this but once I started and seeing about you dad just brought it all out. That is the way that most of us look at our other list members-- like they become our friends. We are all striving for the same things and can share so much!! Diana Kinzer Heath -----Original Message----- From: TOSHIBA PREFERRED USER <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, October 28, 1998 5:26 AM Subject: [VAAUGUST-L] Apology >To all of you: > >These last few days have been so exciting to me, being a newcomer to the >list, I have been like a kid in a candy store with all the information >that I have learned and found. Thanks to Helen, Norma, La Doris and >others on the list I was able to track down some wayward VA relatives >and I deeply appreciate the help. It gets so confusing when the names >are all alike between families and you are not even sure if you are on >the right trail. So for that I am grateful. > >Unfortunately, it has been abruptly brought to my attention, by a fellow >lister, that stated she had had a bad day, and evidently my E-mails >bothered her even more. She brought to my attention, in a not so nice >way, that I have made some netiquette errors. I apologize for being >such a novice at this list and on my computer. I did not intentionally >intend to bother or offend anyone. > >I can only hope when she sees this E-mail that a little compassion and >understanding will be allowed for her next victim. > >My overzealousness comes from the fact that in 1994, I lost my father to >suicide. He suffered from severe depression for years. He was raised >in an orphanage for most of his childhood, until his mother could return >for him at 11 yrs. old. His father left his wife and children when my >father was two. My father never saw the man again. For whatever >reasons, it was always very important to my father to know his heritage. >I guess he felt that it was the only way to know his own father. >Unfortumately, he is gone now and I am unable to share with him my >information and the discovery of my "friends" on the VA List. >I tell you all this as an explanation not as an excuse. I apologize for >taking so much space to do so. > >So you see, Miss Bad Day, I am just human and I made some mistakes. >Please be kinder in the future to novices like me, and allow that they >may not understand the workings of the list or their own computer. There >may be a good reason why they are so excited. Certainly instruct, please >do not destruct and you will be, as you suggested to me, a better person >too. > >Thank you all for your time and your kindness. > >Jennifer Moffett Jones > > >==== VAAUGUST Mailing List ==== >**************************************************************** > Visit the Augusta County VAGenWeb Site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaaugust/ >**************************************************************** >