Mike: Tell me more about your Darnells. I have Cyril Darnell m Ava Lough. Cyril born 12/25/1917 IA, father Irvin. Is there any connection. ___________________________________________________________________ Why pay more to get Web access? Try Juno for FREE -- then it's just $9.95/month if you act NOW! Get your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Just to let you know that my web site for the descendants of Christian Grim, as well as my paternal ancestry has been posted to RootsWeb. Christian Grim and his family lived in Greene Co., PA. Many of his descendants moved to WV and Tyler County was the home of my direct ancestors. Other surnames include Staggers, Acklin, Darnell, Locke, as well as many others. The address is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~grimm/index.html Mike Grimm Fowlerville, MI

Happy Holidays, I copied and pasted this info from another list, as a lot of people who ended up on the Ohio River were from Allegheny Co. This site is AWESOME! Susie The "Historic Pittsburgh Collection" is an online collaboration between the University of Pittsburgh and the Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania. They are making available full-text-searchable books published in the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. The History of Allegheny County is among those books. So now you can quickly and easily do your own lookup in this wonderful reference book and many others. The goal is to put online "more than 400 items, over 500 archival finding aids, approximately 600 land ownership maps, and access to the Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania's catalog." The website is at http://digital.library.pitt.edu/pittsburgh/ The History of Allegheny County table of contents is located at http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/pitttext-idx.pl?notisid=00afq9167m&type=header This site is amazing - you've got to check it out!

Hi, am new to the list. Does anyone know who the John Bogard is that appears in the 1830 Tyler Census. Looking to tie a few Bogards to a Jesse Bogard 1810 Greene Co. PA then later 1850 Tyler Co. W. VA> any help appreciated. Thanks, Nancy Bogard Gardner, Seattle WA

Hi Ninah, I'm just getting a chance to catch up on e-mail, but what a great Christmas! Hope yours was fantastic. When you get time, would you look for John BEAL in any of your Maryland CDs. Per my information, he was born in Shordeville, Alleghany Co, MD in 1793. By 1812, he was in Illinois. Any information would be fantastic. Thanks a million! Karen kmeng@isbe.accessus.net

I'm trying to unravel the history of DANIEL GARRISON, who resided in Tyler County for a number of years. He was the son of DAVID GARRISON, who was born in Greene Co., PA in 1808 and died in Wick, Tyler Co., WV in 1878. David's wife was CATHARINE ENGLE, born in Fayette Co., PA in 1804, died in Tyler Co. in 1891. On page 29 of the 1860 Census of Tyler Co., (W)VA, Daniel's age was given as 30. Also enumerated with Daniel was his wife, ELIZA, aged 19; she may have been the same one later enumerated as Louisa; daughter Maria C., 2; son Simon P., 4 months. His age was given as 40 on page 5 of the 1870 Census of Meade Twp. (Middlebourne Post Office), Tyler Co., WV; his wife LOUISA'S age was given as 30. Daughter Maria was listed as 12; son Peter, 10; daughter Salina, 5; son John, 2. It's not inconceivable that ELIZA and LOUISA were the same person; I've checked the marriage records of Monongalia, Tyler, and Ritchie Counties, and didn't find a marriage record for any of them. I found an interesting clue, though; the daughter, MARIA CATHARINE, married a JAMES A. NAY in Ritchie Co. on 29 January 1883. She died in Ritchie Co. on 12 August 1929, giving her mother's maiden name as WELLS. Therefore, I can gather with a fair degree of certainty that her mother's name was ELIZA WELLS, possibly also known as LOUISA WELLS. Who were her parents? Her father may have left a will, naming her or her children as legatees. Are there any Wells researchers who have researched this line? Thanks, Brian Brian D. Core P.O. Box 1166 Brighton, CO 80601 Greenhouseguy@Juno.com Web Page: http://pages.prodigy.net/greenhouseguy For attachments, use: Greenhouseguy@prodigy.net ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Sorry..the following information is only partially correct: Grandma said her parents(Benjamin Franklin Seckman(b: 1834 Greene Co., Pa.) and Sarah Jane Coen b:1838 Oh Co. Va)) and Grandparents(Phillip Seckman and Sarah "Sallie" Custer) moved to Tyler County(which later became Pleasants) because it was so beautiful with mountains and rivers. The timber was unspoiled and thick with wild game. The soil was rich and her people raised beef, horses and sheep. The railroad came through and made travel pleasurable. Phillip Seckman was the Grandfather of Benjamin Franklin Seckman. His Grandmother was Anna Elizabeth Belloman. Benjamin Franklin was the son of Samuel Seckman b: 1810 who married Sarah "Sallie" Custer b: 1812. Samuel and his wife Sarah "Sallie" moved to Tyler County close to 1834. They are listed in the 1850 Tyler Co census. Please email if more clarification is needed, Lenore

Hi Christina, I have tried to record my Great Grandmother's (Mary Florence Seckman Jones b: 1859) description of the crops in Tyler and Pleasants Counties. After moving to Webster Co. sometime in the early 1900's, she was never satisfied with what she grew. She always considered her harvest inferior to what her family reaped in the rich and fertile soils which blessed the "River Settlers." She said that seed could be scattered on untilled soil, left to sun and rain, and still produce an abundant harvest of flavorable fruits and vegetables. I have heard my Aunts and Uncles rave about how tall the corn grew and how it was more delicious than any other, especially corn grown on the Jones farm, with the Ohio river bordering the back of the farm. Grandma said her parents(Benjamin Franklin Seckman(b: 1834 Greene Co., Pa.) and Sarah Jane Coen b:1838 Oh Co. Va)) and Grandparents(Phillip Seckman and Sarah "Sallie" Custer) moved to Tyler County(which later became Pleasants) because it was so beautiful with mountains and rivers. The timber was unspoiled and thick with wild game. The soil was rich and her people raised beef, horses and sheep. The railroad came through and made travel pleasurable. Grandma enjoyed talking about her family, and held them in high esteem. On Sunday afternoon, she wrote letters to her sisters, her brother, and other family members still living in Tyler and Pleasants. I wonder if anyone on the list has ever found a reference to sheep being kept in Tyler and Pleasants Counties? I have not, but know the Seckman's had a spinning wheel and Grandma knew how to spin. I am puzzled that no one else talks about their families keeping sheep. Glad you mentioned the "Hardiness Zone" theory, Christina. Think it's a very logical clue for those having problems tracing the movings of their people. During the past week I've thought a lot about the Thanksgiving's my ancestors must have had. I imagine they had wild turkey with feather light dumplings, picked their own wild cranberries, and both kinds of potatoes, pickled corn from the stone jar in the cellar, hard boiled eggs pickled in beet juice, cole slaw with home made dressing, turnips, green beans, parsnips and squash. Large fluffy biscuits cut out with a tin cup, the ingredients unmeasured. Fresh churned butter, real whipped cream on the pumpkin pie that came from their own good garden. Hot fruit pies, a big pan of gingerbread, a plum cake. These are the things Gr-Grandma cooked so I surmize her skills came from her family and were traditional foods. With every meal there was cinnamon flavored applebutter which had been cooked in a big copper lined kettle, over a slow wood fire in the back yard. It was cooked all day and family members took turns stirring with a wooden crafted, long handled "apple butter stir." The end piece was long enough to reach all the way to the bottom of the kettle, preventing the bubbling apples from scorching. For many years our family carried on this tradition of making apple butter the old fashioned way. Everybody peeled and cored apples the entire day before the cooking took place.Great Grandma was always the charge person, adding the right amounts of sugar and the careful drops of cinnamin, after determining the apple butter was cooked to the right thickness. The aroma freshened the entire neighborhood. You could tell when someone was cooking apple butter, and count on your neighbor to show up around supper time with a fresh jar of warm apple butter, staying just long enough for our mother to "test a spoon" to see if it needed more sugar or cinnamin. According to Great Grandma, it took a lot of "know how" and years of practise to get apple butter right. Her people in Tyler and Pleasants County were highly regarded as the best of cooks. She often said she had tasted lots of apple butter over the years and nobody in Webster County could make apple butter as good as "hers." Grandma made her last kettle of apple butter in the summer of 1943 when she was 84 years old. During the winter she had a stroke and was bedfast until Nov 20, 1944 when she passed away. Making apple butter was never as exciting without Grandma's special skill and direction. It became more of a chore rather than an annual joyous event, turning out apple butter that didn't taste anything like Grandma's. So that proved Grandma was right. With World War ll and the sugar shortage, we had a patriotic reason to stop making apple butter. I still have her apple butter stir and her 3 legged black iron pot which produced delicacies I've never been able to duplicate. Happy Thanksgiving! Lenore

I have heard two researchers in the last few weeks say that as people migrated westward they stayed in their "hardiness zones". The idea being that people wanted to be able to farm the way they were used to. I have been looking for a good map that would show the zones. The USDA puts these maps together which you see in seed catalogs. I found this one of the Eastern half of the US. Thought some people might like to check it out. Your ancestor should never go more than two zones from his zone of origin. This doesn't count for people with city jobs. It is supposed to give you an idea which areas you might look at as you search for their origin. http://www.boldweb.com/greenweb/g_zoneus.gif Regards, Christina

Joycee, Which Moore? Susie

Hi Fellow listers.... If there is anyone...anyone out there that is related to a Catherine R. Dotson with a brother Floyd (she had other siblings but unfortunately, I don't know there names)....please, please contact me. Catherine or "Kate" as she was called married a George Ernest Perkins and had children named Cecil, William, Carl and Hope (not in that order) and eventually ended up residing in or near Thomas, WV. Please I am in hitting my brick wall with finding out about her....oh yes, she was born in 1858 and died in 1940 and is buried in Rose Hill Cemetary.... THANKS TO YOU ALL Michelle

Searching for the following surnmes: Martin, Davis Moore Poole Joycee Meddles Palmer

I am searching for Carpenter's in Tyler in the 1880's - 1890's and need alot of help Please I am looking to see if Martin VanBuren Carpenter was the father of a Isaac D. Carpenter . Martin Carpenter had a son in Tyler Co. in 1882 named Hampton Orlando he also had a son name Robert C. b. 1871 in Ohio . Now Isaac would have been b. in Ohio also in 1880. Isaac D. had a son in Ritchie Co. in 1904 by the name of Martin VanBuren Carpenter and since the counties are so close it is possible that they are related. Any help is welcome Thank You all in advance Debbie in Ca. jth6666505@aol.com

I am new to this list and working on this name? Adam was married two times..the second marriage to Lavenia Mikes in 1844 is our line. the children were Mahala, William, Curtis, and Alexander. All born before 1850 His first marriage had children James born abt 1837 and Mary abt 1839. Would like to know more abt this whole family...Thank you

Looking for the following Powell: MARTHA A. POWELL b. abt 1864 either Ohio or WVA. Married Jefferson D. Stull (son of Hiram Stull and Rebecca May) in Washington Co Ohio, Jan. 2, 1880. Issues: Elizabeth Fronie b. abt. 1884 Arizona Rebecca b. abt 1887 m. Nicholas Stewart Della M. b. abt 1891 Lily G. b. abt 1894 Ora Olive b. abt 1899 Rosie b. abt 1881 m. James Chevuront Probably lived in Ohio Valley along the northern panhandle of WV. Found in Wetzel, Tyler, Ritchie, Marion, Monongalia Co., WV. Any information glad appreciated. Hugh Smith Raccoon, Ky

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Looking for information on MARTHA A. POWELL. Need information on her parents and/or sibblings: MARTHA A. POWELL b. abt 1864 either Ohio or WVA. Married Jefferson D. Stull (son of Hiram Stull and Rebecca May) in Washington Co Ohio, Jan. 2, 1880. Issues: Elizabeth Fronie b. abt. 1884 Arizona Rebecca b. abt 1887 m. Nicholas Stewart Della M. b. abt 1891 Lily G. b. abt 1894 Ora Olive b. abt 1899 Rosie b. abt 1881 m. James Chevuront Probably lived in Ohio Valley along the northern panhandle of WV. Found in Wetzel, Tyler, Ritchie, Marion, Monongalia Co., WV. Any information glad appreciated. Hugh Smith Raccoon, Ky

>From the Moore List: Just thought I would pass this along. Ancestry.com added the below database today. It will be free for 10 days only. You do not have to register with ancestry.com to access the data. Just go to <http://www.ancestry.com> database is on the right hand side of the screen - click on the underline and type in surname. There are over 200 MOORE's listed. Irish Records Index, 1500-1920 After the fire at the Dublin Record Office in 1922, the government appealed for Irish residents to donate any copies of records they possessed. This appeal yielded a large and widely varied collection of information that the Family History Library in Salt Lake City microfilmed in the 1960's. This database is an index to these records now in possession of the Library. Each entry reveals the person's name, date of record, and residence in Ireland. More importantly, the microfilm, box, and item numbers are provided to aid the researcher in obtaining a copy of the original record. These records include histories, pedigrees, parish registers, probates, and orphan's court records. ______________________________

I just saw the announcement that Rootsweb is in the process of offering free webspace. FREE UNLIMITED Web space at RootsWeb! Any subject: genealogy, computers, pets! Get your Freepages account today: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/acctform.cgi Also new - is a place to upload (and download) Gedcoms. You can also add sticky notes of your own. http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/ Yours, Christina

Good morning. Just to let you know a couple of things abt Rootsweb lists (applies to most lists I have seen)...you can't send any attachments through the list. It won't work. The only way to send data from a file (should you have reason to) is to insert the text into your message. Also, this list is set to have all msgs sent by hitting REPLY, to the List. If you don't want something to go to the whole list you will have to type the correct address in the "To" field. At least this is so for most email programs. Most smaller lists are set this way so that everyone can see the postings. On large lists where lots of replies can be a nuisance the listowner will use the other option so that replies won't go to everyone. I thought this bit of info might explain why your posts go to the whole list. You can always use the option of writing directly to someone. I can change this function, but we are still a small list. Let me know if any of you have a problem on this. I can switch if need be. I like to see the activity myself, and if you understand the system you can make your own adjustments. Thanks, Christina Ninah@ix.netcom.com