Hello; Here is another bounced message. Please direct all of your posts to: Jeff Carr <[email protected]> Sandra in Sacramento ******************** --------------original message------------------- At 08:26 AM 7/16/98 -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: >Hi all, > >This is the other Jeff Carr, fomerly of Hambleton, WV > >>>1.)You show that William Bonner Sr was born in Ireland. Have you tried >any Irish records? The only proof I >>have come accross is in a book >"History of the Lambert and Bonner Families" and it just states that someone >>>said he said. > >1) Be wary of the info. in Doane Lambert's "History of the Lambert and >Bonner Families"; while it's a good starting point, he "glossed over" some >pretty important genealogical "situations" [illegitimacies] in the Lamberts >and the Brights, and made some fundamental, sophomoric mistakes in the Carrs >(but then you all prob. already know that). His Bonner stuff looks pretty >good, but I maintain some caution with the early generation. > > >>>2.)You show his spouse Elizabeth Lancisco and you show the same spouse >for his son Solomon? Should his >>spouse be Elizabeth Carr and if so who >were her parents? Elizabeth Lancisco came from the book, "Allegheny >>>Passage". Robin Kesling sent me some information from Albert Summerfield >who had said that he thought she >>was Elizabeth Carr and that she was a >daughter of Henry Carr and Sara Peterson. If she is, she is the only >>>daughter traced to the family. I am not sure the dates match up, and she >would be Jemima Carr Bonner's aunt. I >>am not sure where that idea came from. > >2. I'm pretty sure the Lancisco bit should go with William Sr.'s son. The >Elizabeth CARR-being-the-wife-of-William Bonner Sr.-bit CAME FROM ME. Once >again, it originated from a casual discussion, close to 12-15 years ago, in >which I was just thinking out loud, wondering if . . . (just >like that Abigail Veach [she was NOT] comment I had made). I'm beginning to >think I should just keep my "wonderings" to myself. My thought process had >been that I observed the similarity in names between the sons of William >Bonner Sr. and those of Henry Carr Sr., and was aware of how often cousins >intermarried at that time. NOT really much to base a theory on there. I >know of absolutely NO documentable evidence, circumstantial or otherwise, to >credibly suggest that William Bonner Sr.'s wife Elizabeth had been a Carr. >Please spread the word on this. > > >>>3.)You show William Jr. in Black Fork WV. Should this be Dryfork? There >are both Black Forks and Dry Forks in >>the census. I put down the locale >that the census enumerates. Black Fork may be a geographic area, a >township, >>or a town that now no longer exists. > >3. Maybe you already know this. Black Fork is a river, about 4-5 miles long, >running from Hendricks to Parsons. The name is a conjunction of the Dry Fork >River and the Blackwater River. There never was a town called "Black Fork." >The voting/political/magisterial district named Black Fork encompasses >Hambleton and Hendricks, and it goes up the Dry Fork to about the mouth of >Otter Creek. William Bonner could have lived/died somewhere between Otter >Creek and Hendricks, and still have been in Black Fork district. > > >>>14.)Stephen is listed with parents of both Solomon Bonner and Seymour >Bonner. I have no idea which is correct. >>>I have a Stephen born to both families about the same time. Is there only >one? > >14. Off the top of my head here at work, I don't know if there was more than >one Stephen. Stephen Bonner, the son of Seymour, married my gr-gr-aunt, >Christina Varner. They had children Mary, Edna, Anna, Omer, etc.; my aunt >recently told me that they still have one daughter living! That should help >to identify this Stephen. > >See ya, >Jeff Carr in Charlottesville, VA > > Sandra [T.YLER] D.UNCAN {ôçô} purplevw @ sl.net (ô¿ô) •••PLEASE check with me before sending any attachments!!!••• Support RootsWeb! Go "NOW" to: http://www.rootsweb.com THINGS ARE SLOW TODAY, SEND SOME DATA TO YOUR FAVORITE LIST!!! -------------------------------- End of WVRANDOL-D Digest V98 Issue #115 *************************************** Administrivia: From [email protected] Thu Jul 16 20:01:26 1998 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Received: from fp-1.rootsweb.com (fp-1.rootsweb.com [207.113.233.233]) by fp-2.rootsweb.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA27509 for <[email protected]>; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:01:26 -0700 From: [email protected] Received: (from [email protected]) by fp-1.rootsweb.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA16553; Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:59:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <[email protected]> Subject: WVRANDOL-D Digest V98 #115 X-Loop: [email protected] X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/volume98/115 Precedence: list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary="----------------------------" To: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ------------------------------ Content-Type: text/plain WVRANDOL-D Digest Volume 98 : Issue 115 Today's Topics: #1 Re: Bonner/Carr, etc [[email protected]] #2 Re: Bonners in Tucker County ["Sandra D.UNCAN" <[email protected]>] #3 Re: BONNER/CARR ["Sandra D.UNCAN" <[email protected]>] ut of the same book you quoted. That is where I got my information. I didn't check that information because I am interested in the Carr connection, and Bonner descendants from there. >2.)You show his spouse Elizabeth Lancisco and you show the same spouse >for his son Solomon? Should his spouse be Elizabeth Carr and if so who were >her parents? Elizabeth Lancisco came from the book, "Allegheny Passage". Robin Kesling sent me some information from Albert Summerfield who had said that he thought she was Elizabeth Carr and that she was a daughter of Henry Carr and Sara Peterson. If she is, she is the only daughter traced to the family. I am not sure the dates match up, and she would be Jemima Carr Bonner's aunt. I am not sure where that idea came from. >3.)You show William Jr. in Black Fork WV. Should this be Dryfork? There are both Black Forks and Dry Forks in the census. I put down the locale that the census enumerates. Black Fork may be a geographic area, a township, or a town that now no longer exists. >4.)Do you have children listed for America ann Bonner and James H. >Lambert? 1. Alfred Yokum Lambert (1853-1911) m1. Perie H Schoonover (3 ch) m2. Elizabeth Harper (I know of 1 ch) 2. James B Lambert (1854-1937) m. Alice Jane Bonner (1860-1929) (12 ch) 3. Christopher Columbus Lambert (1857-1926) m. Mary Jane Snyder (10 ch) 4. Mary Catherine Lambert (1859-1870) 5. Provy Ellen Lambert (1861-1955) m1. H L Nestor (1855- ) (I know of 1 ch) m2. Warren G Swearingen (5 ch) 6. Lorenzo Dow Lambert (1863-1949) m1. ?? (1 ch) m2. Martha Armentrout (no other info) 7. Nathaniel Jackson Lambert (1866-1942) m. Dora Rice (1883-1957) (ch?) 8. Louisa B Lambert (1868- ) (no further info) 9. Ella May Lambert (1871-1933) m. Jacob Montoney (I know of 3 ch) 10. Edward Harness Lambert (1874-1894) 11. Floda Virginia Lambert (1878- ) m. G W Wyatt (5ch) >5.)I show Howard Flasky Bonner as son of Archibald Bonner...? Yes, and Elizabeth Roy. There is also a Howard F(may be Flasky) Bonner b. 1901 s/o Solomon Bonner and Martha Ellen Carr >6.)I have a Phoebe C. White married to James William Bonner. Is this >the same person who is married to Solomon Carr? I doubt it. Phoebe C White m James W Bonner is born abt 1855. Solomon Bonner was b. abt 1877. I do not have any dates on his wife, but I would think it is another woman; I could be wrong. >7.)I show Elizabeth Bright b.12-20-1853 & d.1-9-31 I believe the dates I had for her came partly from the 1900 census and maybe from the "History of Randolph Co, WV" by Maxwell. I have also incorporated information from Pat Saletore, Tara Mooney and Bonnie Womble. Since you have exact dates, I would trust them (especially over the census). >8.)I show Anna S. Bonner with a daughter Kate Elizabeth Foster I did not have that information. Thank you. I shall be watching for her. >9.)I show Washington Bonner as George Washington Bonner. I have always figured he probably was George Washington Bonner, but I had nothing that said that. I was keeping an open mind, in case it wasn't George Washington after all. It could have been Washington Irving. >10.)I show a daughter of Olive for Archibald Martin Jr. Since most of my information only runs up to the 1900 census, it could very well be. I will add her to my list and watch for her too. >11.)You show Mary Sarah as Daughter of Archibald Martin Sr. I show >Mary Catherine. I think I have seen her both ways, so I just put her down as Mary Sarah Catherine until I can get a firm confirmation. Her information is from "History of Randolph Co, WV" by Maxwell, a chart from Pat Saletore, 1870-1880 Census and the International Genealogical Index. >12.)I show Solomon Bonner died 12-13-1879. You show 1890. Information on him came from "History of Randolph Co, WV" by Maxwell, "History of Tucker Co, WV" by McClaine, charts from Tara Mooney, Tim Turner, Elaine Carr, and Bonnie Womble >13.)I show Alice Jane Bonner's (s.James Lambert)parents as Wm. J. >Bonner and Mary Pennington. Information on her comes from "History of Randolph Co, WV" by Maxwell, "History of Tucker Co, WV" by McClaine. 1860, 1880, 1900 census. charts from Pat Saletore, Tara Mooney, Bonnie Womble >14.)Stephen is listed with parents of both Solomon Bonner and Seymour >Bonner. I have no idea which is correct. I have a Stephen born to both families about the same time. Is there only one? >15.)I show William Ellison Bonner b.8-17-1854, m. Mary E. Hedrick >4-18-1878. Again, I believe I got the partial birth date from the census. >16.)Edward Bonner married Elsie Viola Lambert. Who were her parents. Christopher Columbus Lambert and Mary Jane Snyder >17.)Henry Bonner married Mary Jane Helmick born 1838 and married >Stuart (Stewart) Flanagan and had the following children:Girtha, (m. Richard >Pearle Archibald Bonner) Virginia, Louessa, Melvina, Pearl & Boyd. She >married Henry Bonner and had Russell Bonner b.10-27-1896 d. 7-13-1972, >m.Maime Harper. She had a daugh Elsie with a friend with the last name of Judy. Born 1838? The census said Nov 1861. Maybe she is lying? I didn't know of Girtha. I will add her to my info. Do we know who Mr Judy is? >18.)I show Mary Pennington had a child by Alfred Ault. I show a child, but no father. Were they both Alfred. That is what I have for the child's name, b abt 1858. >19.)I show a third spouse for Martin (V.) Bonner b. 1863 of Bell >Bright. I also show Jane Cooper and Jane George. I do not have any other names but Eliza J(ane) George. The others are possible. Who was the mother of Casper N, Celesten and Sturley Bonner? >20.)I show a Jackson Bonner b. 1866 not Jason. I show that Jackson Bonner also went by Jason. >21.)I show Solomon Bonner b. 1869 married Alice Flanagan. I also show that. Did I mistype it? >22.)I show Malinda's b.1879 I also show her as 1 yo in the 1880 census. I don't trust the census for much more than a ball park figure. I think that birth date came from Pat Saletore. >23.)Richard Bonner had the following children: > Jason (my grandfather) 6-1-1900 Tucker Cty. d.5-1982 Fairlea, WV. m. >Mary Belle Helmick. Her mother Martha and Richard's mother Mary were >sisters. Alta--still alive > Lena--still alive > Besse--still alive > Mary--d.abt.1972 Thanks for the update! >24.)You show William Bonner Sr. died in Ohio. Where? Also his wife as >Ok, did you mean Oh? The Ok was a typo. I believe that info was what I got from the Lambert book. >A lot of my records on my direct line are from old handouts at family >reunions. This info except for the later relatives is not set in >stone. > >Have you had much response from your posting? Any additional info is >appreciated. So far, you are the only one who has come back on it. I also appreciate any additions and corrections. >Do you have any additional info on William J. Flanagan father of >Stewart. Stewart is my gggrandfather and I do not have any info. I only have the fact that there are a bunch of William J Flanagans in that area. I do not have his parents. I'm sorry. >I went and visited my great aunts last spring and tried to get more >info but it is hard for them to remember with out getting family line confused. > I will try to call them here again this week and try to fit more pieces of >the puzzel together. > >Tks >Sue > I am patching this on through to the other Bonner descendants and associates that I know of. Maybe some of them have some more info on some of these questions and will share. 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