Hello Harvey, My husband line ties into Elzas in Randolph Co. He is a descendant of the Whites and Carrs. Do you have anthing on the Ursula Elza who wed Noah J Carr. Noah born 9 Dec 1870 and died 27 Mar 1956. Ursula was married before . He second married Lucretia Smith. I have Ursula born 19 Jan 1880 and died 4 Aug 1968 buried Bethel Cem , Job, Wv Noah was the son of Solomon and Susanna Simmons Carr. Solomon and Susanna Simmon Carr had a daughter Marth Louella who wed Jospeh Sylvester Elza she was born 1855 and died 1940 buried Elza Cem. He was born 1852 died 1930 buried Elza Cem. wed 9 Feb 1873 I have his father as Thompson Elza and his mother as Sarah White Elza. Is this the same info you have on them? I have these children for Joseph and Martha 1. Mary Alice wed John Henry Fint 2. Mittie May never wed born 1891 3. George Robert born 9 Sept 1888 died 29 Nov 1965 , wed Lena FluBurger 4. Vicie Lillie born Sept 1895 never wed 5. Sahara Almira born May 1875 6. William Ulysses 7. Ettie Susan born Mar 1882 died 1911 or 12 buried White Cem died from T.B. wed to Christopher Columbus ( Cull) Flanagan born 4 Aug 1873 and died 25 Apr 1959 he later married Coral Bell Douglas Carr who was the widow of Flernyon Bernard Allen Patton Carr. son or Solomon and Susanna Simmons Carr 8 Date 9 Frank born 27 Sept 1879 died 23 June 1956 wed Pollie Ann Carr 10 Levica Lillie born 1 June 1893 and died 29 Jan 1963 Is this the same info you have. Robin in Lakeland , Fl