Re your query on Martha Ellen {Duck} White. She was the sister of my Grandfather Alfred T. White. We have no info on Dan Ryder. Her first husband was John Kerns.They had seven children. Her second husband was Dan Ryder. We have listed only one child from that marriage-Artie who married George Daniels. I cannot confirm this. I would like to know if you learn anything else. Gwen {White} McVaney.