There always circulated an amusing story about Dan Church. He was a lanky, angular man, and they called him "Dr. Dan." The reason was, as the story goes, one day a boy cut his foot. Dr. Dan bandaged up the wrong foot. They never let him forget it. -- danhamrick@earthlink.net Dan Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton OH 44709-3818 Telephone: 330-454-2376 > Hi, this is interesting to me also since my best friend in grade school > was Joan Church, sister to Carolyn. I spent many nights at their home. I > lived in East Dailey while growing up. Carolyn now lives about 3 blocks > from me in Elkins. Good memories!!!! Ethel Welch Swiger > > sandcrab wrote: >> >> Hi, >> This is interesting to me too. Dan Church and his wife Neva lived next >> door to my family when I was a little girl. >> Their daughter Carolyn is one of my best friends. >> Judy Rucker Wright >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dan Hamrick <danhamrick@earthlink.net> >> To: WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Friday, September 13, 2002 10:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch >> >> This is intriguing to me. Dan Church of Valley Bend, WV, was my fifth grade >> teacher at Valley Head, WV. Woodrow Crouch, who lived between Valley Bend >> and Mill Creek, was one of my teachers ‹ civics, I think ‹in high school at >> Mill Creek. Surely they are descendants of the persons you mention. >> >>> Hi Randy >>> I may not have your answers but I do have some of your names, so, I am >>> hoping I can get some help from you on my blanks in this line >>> Another message follows this one with some of what I have >>> >>> SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN >>> Sacramento,CA >>> http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ >>> http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm >>> all my mail scanned by Norton >>> Below is the only place that will accept attachments >>> SandraDuncan73@myfamily.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Randy Stalnaker" <randystalnaker@webtv.net> >>> To: <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:25 PM >>> Subject: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch >>> >>> >>>> I am trying to find information on Charles >>>> Fornelson, his daughter's Mary, and Sarah, his son's John, Jacob, and >>>> Elisha, >>>> and his wife, who I think was a Skidmore. >>>> Charles was listed with Joseph and Andrew Crouch, and James Lackey in a >>>> land grant that was issued Nov. 1 1782 >>>> and granted March 6, 1774. His children >>>> used the name Nelson instead of Fornelson, Sarah was married to John >>>> Crouch Jr., [son of John Sr.] and their >>>> family left Tygarts Valley with Joseph, >>>> [John Sr.'s oldest son] and his family >>>> 1789-1790. >>>> Sarah's sister, Mary, married John Crouch, [son of Andrew and Judith >>>> Westfall Crouch] she died in 1834, and >>>> John later remarried to ELizabeth Whitman in 1836. >>>> I would like to find out as much as possible about Charles and his >>>> family, >>>> especially Mary, who is my greatx3 >>>> grandmother. >>>> I am also wondering if anyone knows if >>>> the Nelson killed in an Indian raid was >>>> John, son of Charles. >>>> Thank You, Randy >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== >>>> Give someone some help and they may help you. >>>> >>>> >>>> ============================== >>>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >>> go to: >>>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== >>> Check out the West Virginia Roots Network at: >>> http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/WV/ >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >> go >>> to: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >>> >> >> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Check out the Randolph County USGW site at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvrandol/ >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> >> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Check out the Randolph County USGW site at: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvrandol/ >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go >> to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Give someone some help and they may help you. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi, this is interesting to me also since my best friend in grade school was Joan Church, sister to Carolyn. I spent many nights at their home. I lived in East Dailey while growing up. Carolyn now lives about 3 blocks from me in Elkins. Good memories!!!! Ethel Welch Swiger sandcrab wrote: > > Hi, > This is interesting to me too. Dan Church and his wife Neva lived next > door to my family when I was a little girl. > Their daughter Carolyn is one of my best friends. > Judy Rucker Wright > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Hamrick <danhamrick@earthlink.net> > To: WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, September 13, 2002 10:19 PM > Subject: Re: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch > > This is intriguing to me. Dan Church of Valley Bend, WV, was my fifth grade > teacher at Valley Head, WV. Woodrow Crouch, who lived between Valley Bend > and Mill Creek, was one of my teachers ‹ civics, I think ‹in high school at > Mill Creek. Surely they are descendants of the persons you mention. > > > Hi Randy > > I may not have your answers but I do have some of your names, so, I am > > hoping I can get some help from you on my blanks in this line > > Another message follows this one with some of what I have > > > > SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN > > Sacramento,CA > > http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ > > http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > > all my mail scanned by Norton > > Below is the only place that will accept attachments > > SandraDuncan73@myfamily.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Randy Stalnaker" <randystalnaker@webtv.net> > > To: <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:25 PM > > Subject: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch > > > > > >> I am trying to find information on Charles > >> Fornelson, his daughter's Mary, and Sarah, his son's John, Jacob, and > >> Elisha, > >> and his wife, who I think was a Skidmore. > >> Charles was listed with Joseph and Andrew Crouch, and James Lackey in a > >> land grant that was issued Nov. 1 1782 > >> and granted March 6, 1774. His children > >> used the name Nelson instead of Fornelson, Sarah was married to John > >> Crouch Jr., [son of John Sr.] and their > >> family left Tygarts Valley with Joseph, > >> [John Sr.'s oldest son] and his family > >> 1789-1790. > >> Sarah's sister, Mary, married John Crouch, [son of Andrew and Judith > >> Westfall Crouch] she died in 1834, and > >> John later remarried to ELizabeth Whitman in 1836. > >> I would like to find out as much as possible about Charles and his > >> family, > >> especially Mary, who is my greatx3 > >> grandmother. > >> I am also wondering if anyone knows if > >> the Nelson killed in an Indian raid was > >> John, son of Charles. > >> Thank You, Randy > >> > >> > >> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > >> Give someone some help and they may help you. > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > > go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >> > > > > > > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > > Check out the West Virginia Roots Network at: > > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/WV/ > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go > > to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Check out the Randolph County USGW site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvrandol/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Check out the Randolph County USGW site at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvrandol/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I am not sure, I live in Georgia, and have only met 1 member of the Crouch Family that I know of, that was William, son of Charles and Emma Daft Crouch, of Beverly. In the Stalnaker Chronicles, there is an Arthur Woodrow Crouch, is that who you are talking about? Randy

Hi, This is interesting to me too. Dan Church and his wife Neva lived next door to my family when I was a little girl. Their daughter Carolyn is one of my best friends. Judy Rucker Wright -----Original Message----- From: Dan Hamrick <danhamrick@earthlink.net> To: WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 13, 2002 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch This is intriguing to me. Dan Church of Valley Bend, WV, was my fifth grade teacher at Valley Head, WV. Woodrow Crouch, who lived between Valley Bend and Mill Creek, was one of my teachers ‹ civics, I think ‹in high school at Mill Creek. Surely they are descendants of the persons you mention. > Hi Randy > I may not have your answers but I do have some of your names, so, I am > hoping I can get some help from you on my blanks in this line > Another message follows this one with some of what I have > > SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN > Sacramento,CA > http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ > http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > all my mail scanned by Norton > Below is the only place that will accept attachments > SandraDuncan73@myfamily.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Stalnaker" <randystalnaker@webtv.net> > To: <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:25 PM > Subject: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch > > >> I am trying to find information on Charles >> Fornelson, his daughter's Mary, and Sarah, his son's John, Jacob, and >> Elisha, >> and his wife, who I think was a Skidmore. >> Charles was listed with Joseph and Andrew Crouch, and James Lackey in a >> land grant that was issued Nov. 1 1782 >> and granted March 6, 1774. His children >> used the name Nelson instead of Fornelson, Sarah was married to John >> Crouch Jr., [son of John Sr.] and their >> family left Tygarts Valley with Joseph, >> [John Sr.'s oldest son] and his family >> 1789-1790. >> Sarah's sister, Mary, married John Crouch, [son of Andrew and Judith >> Westfall Crouch] she died in 1834, and >> John later remarried to ELizabeth Whitman in 1836. >> I would like to find out as much as possible about Charles and his >> family, >> especially Mary, who is my greatx3 >> grandmother. >> I am also wondering if anyone knows if >> the Nelson killed in an Indian raid was >> John, son of Charles. >> Thank You, Randy >> >> >> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Give someone some help and they may help you. >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Check out the West Virginia Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/WV/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== Check out the Randolph County USGW site at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvrandol/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

----- Original Message ----- From: Edrie Broughton To: Sandra E. T. Duncan Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: Arthur Van Scoy Arthur Van Scoy Passes Away Here; Services Monday Arthur B. Van Scoy, 84, a resi- dent of Salinas for 25 years, passed away here yesterday fol- lowing a short illness. A native of Kernes, W. Va., he is survived by two daughters, Mrs. Vivian Wever of Salinas and Mrs. Althea Brazzi fo Lake coun- ty; four grandchildren, Arthur Van Scoy of Denver, Mrs. Doris Sargent of Half Moon Bay, Sheryl and Gordon Brazzi of Lake county; one great-grandson; two sisters, Mrs. Helen Hicks of Sal- inas and Mrs. Laura Isner of Akron, Ohio. Private funeral services will be held Monday at 2 p.m. from Struve and Laporte's here. Inter- ment will be in the family plot in the Gonzales Community ceme- tery.

This is intriguing to me. Dan Church of Valley Bend, WV, was my fifth grade teacher at Valley Head, WV. Woodrow Crouch, who lived between Valley Bend and Mill Creek, was one of my teachers ‹ civics, I think ‹in high school at Mill Creek. Surely they are descendants of the persons you mention. > Hi Randy > I may not have your answers but I do have some of your names, so, I am > hoping I can get some help from you on my blanks in this line > Another message follows this one with some of what I have > > SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN > Sacramento,CA > http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ > http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm > all my mail scanned by Norton > Below is the only place that will accept attachments > SandraDuncan73@myfamily.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Randy Stalnaker" <randystalnaker@webtv.net> > To: <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:25 PM > Subject: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch > > >> I am trying to find information on Charles >> Fornelson, his daughter's Mary, and Sarah, his son's John, Jacob, and >> Elisha, >> and his wife, who I think was a Skidmore. >> Charles was listed with Joseph and Andrew Crouch, and James Lackey in a >> land grant that was issued Nov. 1 1782 >> and granted March 6, 1774. His children >> used the name Nelson instead of Fornelson, Sarah was married to John >> Crouch Jr., [son of John Sr.] and their >> family left Tygarts Valley with Joseph, >> [John Sr.'s oldest son] and his family >> 1789-1790. >> Sarah's sister, Mary, married John Crouch, [son of Andrew and Judith >> Westfall Crouch] she died in 1834, and >> John later remarried to ELizabeth Whitman in 1836. >> I would like to find out as much as possible about Charles and his >> family, >> especially Mary, who is my greatx3 >> grandmother. >> I am also wondering if anyone knows if >> the Nelson killed in an Indian raid was >> John, son of Charles. >> Thank You, Randy >> >> >> ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== >> Give someone some help and they may help you. >> >> >> ============================== >> To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >> > > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Check out the West Virginia Roots Network at: > http://midatlantic.rootsweb.com/WV/ > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go > to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Hi Randy I may not have your answers but I do have some of your names, so, I am hoping I can get some help from you on my blanks in this line Another message follows this one with some of what I have SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN Sacramento,CA http://www.gencircles.com/users/purplevw1/1/ http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm all my mail scanned by Norton Below is the only place that will accept attachments SandraDuncan73@myfamily.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Stalnaker" <randystalnaker@webtv.net> To: <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: [WVRANDOL-L] Charles Fornelson, John Crouch > I am trying to find information on Charles > Fornelson, his daughter's Mary, and Sarah, his son's John, Jacob, and > Elisha, > and his wife, who I think was a Skidmore. > Charles was listed with Joseph and Andrew Crouch, and James Lackey in a > land grant that was issued Nov. 1 1782 > and granted March 6, 1774. His children > used the name Nelson instead of Fornelson, Sarah was married to John > Crouch Jr., [son of John Sr.] and their > family left Tygarts Valley with Joseph, > [John Sr.'s oldest son] and his family > 1789-1790. > Sarah's sister, Mary, married John Crouch, [son of Andrew and Judith > Westfall Crouch] she died in 1834, and > John later remarried to ELizabeth Whitman in 1836. > I would like to find out as much as possible about Charles and his > family, > especially Mary, who is my greatx3 > grandmother. > I am also wondering if anyone knows if > the Nelson killed in an Indian raid was > John, son of Charles. > Thank You, Randy > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Give someone some help and they may help you. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I am trying to find information on Charles Fornelson, his daughter's Mary, and Sarah, his son's John, Jacob, and Elisha, and his wife, who I think was a Skidmore. Charles was listed with Joseph and Andrew Crouch, and James Lackey in a land grant that was issued Nov. 1 1782 and granted March 6, 1774. His children used the name Nelson instead of Fornelson, Sarah was married to John Crouch Jr., [son of John Sr.] and their family left Tygarts Valley with Joseph, [John Sr.'s oldest son] and his family 1789-1790. Sarah's sister, Mary, married John Crouch, [son of Andrew and Judith Westfall Crouch] she died in 1834, and John later remarried to ELizabeth Whitman in 1836. I would like to find out as much as possible about Charles and his family, especially Mary, who is my greatx3 grandmother. I am also wondering if anyone knows if the Nelson killed in an Indian raid was John, son of Charles. Thank You, Randy

Please if anyone has any info or leads on the following people email me: Orin Fletcher married Roseanna Simmons and had Rebecca Catherine who was married several times and Minnie Mae who married Floyd D Lawrence. They were born in Highland or Pendleton Co, WV in 1855. Minnie married Floyd 10/16/1907 an she died 4/15/1971. Rebecca died 3/29/1970 in Oakland, Garrett Co, MD. Thanks Shirley sjtkr@juno.com

I am gathering additional facts to write a story for "Goldenseal" magazine (published by WV Division of Culture and History) re the Stalnaker Family. I am looking for interesting stories that may have occurred in the family during the 21st century. I am also looking for the names of the famous and infamous in the family. For instance. . . Stalnaker Hall at WVU --- for whom was it named and why? Are there any modern day heroes in the family? We currently have one Stalnaker serving in the WV Legislature. . . and I have the names of those who have held state public office in the past. I know a great deal about the family in Lewis County and the older generations in Randolph County and the cabin and the Indian battles, etc. It's the more modern info that I need. All help appreciated. . . I will credit resources in my story. Joy Stalnaker "God bless America"

Hi Diane, My husbands line is a Carr line form Randolph and Pendelton Co Wv. He ties into Summerfields, this is on his Moms side . Then on his fathers side they tie into Woods from Upshur and Lewis Co. That is Keslings. Robin in Lakeland , Fl

I have a few of the Summerfield name in my files and tons of Carrs Several of my Summerfields tie into my Wilmoth line,much of my Dad's maternal side is in WV especially in Randolph and Pendleton counties always willing to exchange ,update,correct SANDRA TYLER DUNCAN in Sacramento,CA admin for DUNCAN-L@rootsweb.com Duncan resource material follows http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dobson [by Mary Ann Dobson] http://www.duncanroots.com [by Keith Duncan] TYLER-L@rootsweb.com VANSCOY-L@rootsweb.com www.vanschaick.com [ by Sean Bagby] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.progenealogists.com/genealogysleuthb.htm All my outgoing mail scanned by Norton so as to be virus free!! ----- Original Message ----- From: <BUSH09A@aol.com> To: <WVRANDOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [WVRANDOL-L] Roys > Hi Diane, > My husbands line is a Carr line form Randolph and Pendelton Co Wv. He ties > into Summerfields, this is on his Moms side . Then on his fathers side they > tie into Woods from Upshur and Lewis Co. > That is Keslings. > Robin in Lakeland , Fl > > > ==== WVRANDOL Mailing List ==== > Give someone some help and they may help you. > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 11/8/2001 6:36:58 AM Mountain Standard Time, UserF4068@aol.com writes: > > I am also researching the Roy family. I am related to them through Mary > Catherine Roy (b. 12 Dec 1844) who married John Wesley Summerfield. Mary's > > parents were Soloman Roy and Margaret Pennington. Soloman's parents were > Joseph Roy and Sarah Summerfield. Joseph's parents were Joseph Roy (b. > 1752) > and Joley. I am interested in any further information you have on these > families. I would be happy to share what I have. Bonnie Hi, Bonnie, What I have listed for Joseph Roy's children are: Phoebe, Elizabeth, Washington, Sarah, Eliza, Jacob. And from what you've listed about Joseph and Joley, I think we could help each other fill in some missing spots. What kind of file can you read? .rtf? .doc? I can read anything you would like to send, esp notes, sources, bios, etc. I have sources tagged for most my items: clerk books, county histories, manuscripts, email, etc. Some people have notes attached explaining some background.

Hi, Darrell, I thought I'd send an email and see how you're doing. Still working on Roy genealogy? I've been busy trying to put together some Harmans and Henkles. Boy, what a mess. I also found some "new" information about some Wolford descendants that moved from Tipton County, Indiana, to just over the border in Illinois. You mentioned a bit ago you were cleaning up the Anderson Roy Cemetery on Rich Mountain. How's that project going? Anything new? New research? Anything we can trade? Regards, Diane

In a message dated 11/7/2001 8:00:33 PM Mountain Standard Time, wva_ladybug@hotmail.com writes: > My line is that of Anderson Roy. Anderson has a son George who has a son > Samuel who was the father of my grandfather Hugh Anderson Roy (Smokie). If > > you have any connection to this family I would love to hear from you. > Thanks. > > > I don't have a George listed.... What I have for Anderson Roy (born 1856) is wife Mary Cooper b 1850; children Robert, Carrie, Solon, Samuel, Charles, Denver. I have more details on them. Was there another child? Between first born in 1873 and last in 1888--they were rather busy. Maybe we can trade info. Also Researching: Appley, Asbury, Barnum, Bauder/Bader, Bowling, Briggs, Burton, Carr, Clark, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Grim, Hardendorf, Harman, Hawk, Hayes, Henkle/Hinkle, Keith, Marcy, Pier, Sawyer, Summerfield, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Teter, Tinkham, Thompson/Thomson, Walker, Whitlam, Wilks, Wolford, Wood, Woolever. http://www.treelines.com http://www.lineage.net Regards, Diane ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------------- Useful sites: http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ (Hints for starting) http://communities.msn.com/AGenealogyExperience (A Genealogy Experience)

Hello, I have never seen that reference, but there is also this: -The following is from Randolph County orphan court records: 24 Sep 1798 Delilah Mace daughter of Ann Mace assigned guardians William Donoho and later Ebenezer Flanagan (22 June 1801 assignment). Ann is married in 1800 so the assumption is an out of wedlock birth. -The following is from the orphan records of Randolph County, West Virginia: 22 Jan 1798 Abraham Mace, a son of Eve Mace with Asabel Heath assigned as a guardian. I have never run into any descendants of John's daughters other than maybe Margaret and I think that she is actually a daughter of his brother Isaac. All I know is that Ann and Eva died young. Am curious, where did you get the surname for John's wife Mollie? John's mother was an Ann Petty, sometimes called Ann Bogard from her step-father. Bill William Easton-Mace Portland, Or.

Hi! It's been a long time since I've been on the list and I need some help! I have just come across a reference from another researcher concerning the following: "Randolph Co. VA 27July 1795 Ordered that Ann Mace's son David Riffel be bound by the overseers the poor of this county as a apprentice unto John Whitman." Now, my many questions.... Can anyone tell me about this Ann MACE? I know she was the d/o John MACE and Ann/Mollie BOGARD. I also know that she married a Samuel HARRIS February 11, 1800 in Randolph Co., VA. I need to know her date of birth and info concerning her death. Is there a will for her and/or her husband that might mention her son David RIFFLE/RIFFEL? Also, does anyone know what happened to her son David RIFFLE/RIFFEL when he was bound to John WHITMAN? Finally, who was John WHITMAN? Wish I was nearby to look up records for myself. I hope you can help! This might be the lead to break down a huge brick wall. Thanks! Cindy Kostka Plymouth Co., MA

I am still looking for a good bit of info on for my family tree. I have updated my homepages that have lots of surnames on them. If anyone has any info they want to share with me please email me. If you want me to keep info to myself or to add it to my page so others can see, please let me know. I can be reached at my email address below. If there is corrections that you also would like to send feel free. Shirley Tasker sjtkr@juno.com http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=dctkr http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=sjtkr

Randy: The HISTORY OF RANDOLPH CO BY MAXWELL has alot on this family. I suspect you know that....Lyle Corder

To those interested: WV Taylor, Court House District, Grafton city ( Enumeration District 132, Sheet 1A) taken 1 June 1900 Line 17 Hoff, Clifton M., W, M, Feb, 1858, 42, married, 12, WV, WV, WV, Carpenter House, can read, can write, can speak English, Owns, Mortgaged, Farm #5 ----, Hannah L., wife, W, F, Dec, 1861, 38, married, 12, 3 children, 3 children living in 1900, WV, WV, WV, can read, can write, can speak English ----, Loleta I., Daughter, W, F, July, 1882, 17, single, WV, WV, WV, 0 months in school, can read, can write, can speak English ----, Ethel G., Daughter, W, F, July, 1887, 12, single, Kansas, WV,WV, 8 months in school, can read, can write, can speak English ----, Stella F., Daughter, W, F, May, 1891, 9, single, WV, WV, WV, 8 months in school ----, Herbert A. H., son, W, M, Aug, 1896, 3, single,WV, WV, WV 1880 Census Place: Elk, Barbour, West Virginia Source: FHL Film 1255399 National Archives Film T9-1399 Page 115C Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Clifton M. HOFF Self M M W 22 VA Occ: Farmer Fa: VA Mo: VA Dora J. HOFF Wife F M W 23 VA Occ: Keeping House Fa: VA Mo: VA Clifton M.Hoff - born 1858 in Barbour County, married May 1, 1879 in Randolph County to Medora J. Hicks, daughter of James and Lucretia (Wilmoth) Hicks. Clifton married a second time on October 24, 1886 in Taylor County to Hannah Lora Isner, a daughter of Hamilton J. and Rebecca (Moats) Isner. Their daughter Ethel Grace, born July 1889 in Reno County, Kansas married Granville Spencer Wells in 1908. brother: Monzel M. Hoff, M.D.- born August 20, 1859 in Barbour County, married September 4, 1890 in Barbour County to Ida M. Teter, a daughter of Jesse and Elizabeth Teter. *********************** All the above was provided by wonderful people doing lookups for me on various lists. My first info is from my grandmother, her sisters all deceased now, and the internet. CLIFTON is my great great grandfather, his daughter, my great grandmother Zetella (STELLA/Cinderella) remembered her sister Loleta, and a brother who worked for the railroad in Grafton. She remembers visiting near Signal Mtn. She thinks Loleta married a Fawcett and had a daughter, Caroline. Clifton remarried Hannah, 1886 and had Ethel, and Della. Clifton reportedly died in 1920, county unknown. I am hoping to fill in the blanks of what happened to all my great grandmother's parents/siblings. She went to live with her Aunt in KS at a young age, and did not go back to WV. Unfortunately we have no pictures. Hope you can find this helpful. Debbie