Properly maybe this ought to be posted to the Lafayette Co PA list, but it's nearby. I need to find a couple of places. One if the "raymond farm", on Deer Lake Rd., a short distance from Rt. 40, in Chalk Hill - which Google Maps thinks is Chalkhill, several miles from Uniontown, in Pennsylvania. Google Earth and Google Maps find a Deer Lake Trail, which does not interesect with Route 40. Chalk Chill Chlopyle or whatever Rd does, and Old Mill Rd branches off of that toward Deer Lake Trail - and a small body of water that my guess is is Deer Lake. It was in 1960 that the Raymond farm was located on Deer Lake Rd. that intersected wtih Rte 40 - has the name changed? Next question; where is Wharton? It's a large township, and that's where the 1900 to 1920 census finds the Raymond family. Google maps says it's a tiny hamlet a couple of miles on down the road away from Uniontown, from Chalk Hill. County map at Wikipedia depicts Wharton township as huge and covering roughly the area where Chalk Hill would be. Is Chalk Hill (or Chalkhill) in Wharton Township? If that is true, than perhaps teh Raymond farm was always in Chalk Hill; not they lived in Wharton in 1900 to 1920 and then got their farm in Chalk Hill. (Original name of Raymond family was Rayman, family was German, and at one point it was Ranno.) Family is notorious; since 1920 they have shot members of their own family three times and at other people too many times to count. In 1960 one of them holed up in the house and shot everyone coming down the road! This made Time Magazine. At the time his uncle was in jail for shooting his son in law. Time described tehm as mean mountain men. I also need to know the location of the Chalk Hill Lutheran Cemetery, which is close enough to the Raymond farm that someone trying to escape being shot by Dan Raymond in 1960 ran across it on his way to shelter a short distance away. Also a number of the Raymond family are buried there. Then, back in West Virginia, apparently Edward, father of Albert who shot his wife and then himself in 1920/22, had a place in Bruceton Mills. Their grave markers are on what was their farm, "on the farm owned by Jesse Ryan (not now) and near tehhouse of Alva Bryte, about one half mile due south of the White School house northwest of Burceton Mills). Now, I'm not even going to ask Google Earth where's the White School House. OK, I did, and it couldn't find it. Anyone know where the farm was? Or the White School House? Edward had a first cousin named Conrad also living in the area, and maybe a brother named Alexander (though I wodner if that was his son). All originally came from elsewhere. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com