Well--------that's not all of it, I guess. I had only a couple more ships to look at and lo and behold, up pops another Frederick Harsh/etc. sp. Could have made more than one trip---but a month apart??? <shrug> The search goes on--->>> =;o[ Carolyn http://www.palproject.org/pa/1752phoe1.htm 1752 Phoenix-1 [List 192 C] Phoenix Captain: John Spurrier From: Rotterdam By Way of: Portsmouth Arrival: Philadelphia, 2 Nov 1752 207 Foreigners Name, Age Frederick (X) Hirsh