Looknig for Edward C. Raymond. He had a bunch of children, and son Albert went with their family just before 1900 to live ni Wharton, Pennsylvania, which it sounds like might be jsut across the state line. They too had a bunch of children. Then in 1920 apparently he shot his wife, who survived, then shot himself. Beginning with Albert, they are buried at a Chalk Hill Lutheran cemetery, in the township immediately east of Wharton. But even though Edward lived with them in the 1910 census he is not buried in that burial ground. Now, this is odd, because it's hard to understand why a family named Raymond would be Lutherans. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janice Cale Sisler" <jsisler@frontiernet.net> To: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <wvpresto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [WVPRESTO] Where was Grant Township, Preston County, West Virginia in 1870-80? > Dora: > > Grant Township became known as Grant District which exists today. I'm > sitting in it. It would help to know who you are looking for. Might be > able to give you an approximate location. > > Janice >> I'm trying to trace a family taht I find in West Virginia in the census >> in 1870 and 1880. Specifically both the 1870 and 1880 censuses insist >> that they are located in Grant Township, Preston County, West Virginia. >> >> 1880 census adds a Grant Magisterial district and that it was Enumeration >> District 58. >> >> Modern discussions of Preston County insist there is no such place. >> Where was it? >> >> And, even more important. Wehre WAS "Grant Township" in 1860? I gather >> that Preston County existed but West Virginia did not, for starters, and >> if geography was ephemeral in this region... >> Yours, >> Dora Smith >> Austin, TX >> tiggernut24@yahoo.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVPRESTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >

But what's it called today? Wikipedia doesn't list any Grant in Preston County. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane McCann Walsh" <jmwalsh@hughes.net> To: <wvpresto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [WVPRESTO] Correction > At 05:47 PM 11/15/2008, Jane wrote: >>He [Wiley] describes Grant as follows on p. 362: >> >>"The territory of Grant was embraced in the First (magisterial) >>District when Preston County was divided in 1852. And in 1863, in >>order of division of the county as then made, it became without any >>change of boundaries >>Pleasant Township. By a change of designation merely, in 1873, it >>became Grant District. it is bounded on the north by Pennsylvania, >>on the east by Maryland, on the south by Pleasant District, and on >>the west by Cheat River, which separates it from Valley District." > > Hi, Folks, > Sorry but there is apparently a typo in Wiley's book. > That second sentence should read: > > "And in 1863, in order of division of the county as then made, it > became without any > change of boundaries Grant Township." > > The simple answer is that District One of Preston Co, VA became Grant > Township of Preston Co., VA and then Grant District of Preston Co. WV. > > Regards, > Jane > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVPRESTO-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks! Makes it look like the family cuold have migrated southward from Pennsylvania. I didn't know part of Virginia was adjacent to Pennsylvania west of Maryland. Looking at the map bears out that suspicion fast. Wharton, Pennsylvania, is close to the West Virginia state line. But on Google maps, what villages are located where Grant was, and what township is it now? If any. I'm tracing the family of Daniel C. Raymond, b about 1825, give or take a year or two. Born in Pennsylvania, married a girl born in Virginia before 1873, had their first child in 1873 in what looks like Pennsylvania, their next child or two in Virginia, then in 1870 and 1880 they are found in Grant, Preston, West Virginia. I understand West Virginia was created about 1863 and Preston County is much older. I cannot find them before 1870. Now, in 1870 the name was spelled "Ranno". The handwriting is hard to read, but it really does not look at all like "Raymond", which makes it possible taht they originally had a different name. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane McCann Walsh" <jmwalsh@hughes.net> To: "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com>; <wvpresto@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [WVPRESTO] Where was Grant Township, Preston County, West Virginia in 1870-80? > Hi, Dora, > The land which later became Grant Twp. in 1860 would have been in Preston > County, VA, in its First District. > My sense of these Districts is that they were all "magisterial" districts, > from the beginning. > In Samuel Wiley's History of Preston, there is a section on each district. > He describes Grant as follows on p. 362: > > "The territory of Grant was embraced in the First (magisterial) District > when Preston County was divided in 1852. And in 1863, in order of > division of the county as then made, it became without any change of > boundaries > Pleasant Township. By a change of designation merely, in 1873, it became > Grant District. it is bounded on the north by Pennsylvania, on the east > by Maryland, on the south by Pleasant District, and on the west by Cheat > River, which separates it from Valley District." > > Hope that helps. > What family are you tracing? > Regards, > Jane >

At 05:47 PM 11/15/2008, Jane wrote: >He [Wiley] describes Grant as follows on p. 362: > >"The territory of Grant was embraced in the First (magisterial) >District when Preston County was divided in 1852. And in 1863, in >order of division of the county as then made, it became without any >change of boundaries >Pleasant Township. By a change of designation merely, in 1873, it >became Grant District. it is bounded on the north by Pennsylvania, >on the east by Maryland, on the south by Pleasant District, and on >the west by Cheat River, which separates it from Valley District." Hi, Folks, Sorry but there is apparently a typo in Wiley's book. That second sentence should read: "And in 1863, in order of division of the county as then made, it became without any change of boundaries Grant Township." The simple answer is that District One of Preston Co, VA became Grant Township of Preston Co., VA and then Grant District of Preston Co. WV. Regards, Jane

At 05:23 PM 11/15/2008, Dora wrote: >I'm trying to trace a family that I find in West Virginia in the >census in 1870 and 1880. Specifically both the 1870 and 1880 >censuses insist that they are located in Grant Township, Preston >County, West Virginia. > >1880 census adds a Grant Magisterial district and that it was >Enumeration District 58. Hi, Dora, The land which later became Grant Twp. in 1860 would have been in Preston County, VA, in its First District. My sense of these Districts is that they were all "magisterial" districts, from the beginning. In Samuel Wiley's History of Preston, there is a section on each district. He describes Grant as follows on p. 362: "The territory of Grant was embraced in the First (magisterial) District when Preston County was divided in 1852. And in 1863, in order of division of the county as then made, it became without any change of boundaries Pleasant Township. By a change of designation merely, in 1873, it became Grant District. it is bounded on the north by Pennsylvania, on the east by Maryland, on the south by Pleasant District, and on the west by Cheat River, which separates it from Valley District." Hope that helps. What family are you tracing? Regards, Jane

I'm trying to trace a family taht I find in West Virginia in the census in 1870 and 1880. Specifically both the 1870 and 1880 censuses insist that they are located in Grant Township, Preston County, West Virginia. 1880 census adds a Grant Magisterial district and that it was Enumeration District 58. Modern discussions of Preston County insist there is no such place. Where was it? And, even more important. Wehre WAS "Grant Township" in 1860? I gather that Preston County existed but West Virginia did not, for starters, and if geography was ephemeral in this region... Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX tiggernut24@yahoo.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: tfrmw Surnames: waddell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/900.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: David Asbury Waddell was my uncle. I do have info on his family. Please contact me at BLW41@AOL.COM I am visiting out of state and do not have jnfo with me. I can send it later. Barbara Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: goonsmom Surnames: CASTEEL COLEMAN TEETS TEATS UPHOLD UPHOLE GROSS BURCH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/1021.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have death certificates for Margaret, Shadrach and Amanda CASTEEL, children of Jesse and Nancy TEATS/TEETS CASTEEL. Certificates: Margaret Ellen CASTEEL COLEMAN d 04 Nov 1929 "westernmost, Allegany, MD" is what it says. Information was given by Mrs. D. W. GROSS. I believe that is Emma, Margaret's daughter. She gives her grandmother's maiden name as UPHOLD. It's not uncommon to find mistakes like this, either because of grieving or just lack of knowledge. Shadrach CASTEEL d 28 Feb 1911 near Friendsville, Garrett, MD. Information was given by John CASTEEL. Shadrach had a son, John W., but I believe he was dead, so it would have been John W.'s son John Alvin (21). He lists Shadrach's parents as Jesse CASTEEL and Nancy TEATS. Amanda Catherine CASTEEL UPHOLD/UPHOLE BURCH d 21 Mar 1929 Albright, Preston, WV. Information was given by her son, Charles BURCH. It says that his grandparents were Jesse CASTEEL and Nancy TEETS. Priscilla Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: Burke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You are not going to get Cornelius Burke on the Bibliography,that's just for reference material on Monongalia Co. that might have info.If you google Monongalia Co.Courthouse records by Melba P.Zinn,they will let you peruse the book on one of the links. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: BURKE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OR,YOU CAN TYPE ADDRESS IN FOR WVGENWEB or USGENWEB WVGENWEB THEN THEN CLICK ON Monongalia Co.then go down to bottom of that page and you'll see a list of other sites or links.One is the Bibliography,click on that and you are homefree. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: Burke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I GOOGLED MONONGALIA CO.Courthouse Records by Melba P. Zinn. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: the2lagans Surnames: Whetsell, Calvert Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/770.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As a decendant of Conrad and Lydia Calvert Whetsell's son Enoch, I am looking for Conrad's parents and their ancestors. Would you have any information, documentation, or help with their ancestors? I've just joined Ancestry so am new at this. Thank you, Jana Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilysnanna172 Surnames: BURKE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Barbara: What did you specify in your google search? Cause I just clicked on your Monongalia Co. link and I typed in Cornelius Burke and no results. I typed in Burkes in 1822 and no results I typed in Burkes and no results Please advise. Thanks so very much for all your help and advise. Melinda Black Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: Burke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Melinda ,I googled it again and it gave me several links to choose from and one of them sent me straight to Monongalia Co. Bibliogrphy on rootsweb,which offered several volumes of that material as well as a lot more books and where to get them. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: Burke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I just googled and found it.But someone on rootsweb probably has one.Just reach out and ask.If you don't get anything,I'm sure Amazon or one of the other book sellers probably has it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilysnanna172 Surnames: BURKE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Barbara: Thanks for that update. I never knew of the burning of the Monongalia County Courthouse. So where does one start to look for this book by Melba Zinn? Sincerely, Melinda Clark Black Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: Burke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Also the Monongalia Co.Courthouse burned down in 1796,so the records are sketchy.there are a few in Melba Zinn's book of Monongalia Co courthouse records that survived in a shed,but i don't own that book either.you could put out feelers with other rootsweb message members on Preston Co. or Monongalia Co. Sites,who might own it.i tried to look on Heritage Quest Online and there were a lot of Burkes in VA. and i did see a couple George's and Cornelius's in 1860,1870,etc. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: barbara55678 Surnames: Burke Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Melinda.i looked at the info i copied,1790census,deeds,etc. and could not find a Burke,but i was only interested in 1800-1820's Monongalia[now Preston Co.].because my ancestor migrated to Ohio before 1820.and i donated my copy of S.T.Wiley's book to my Library Downtown cause it did not have very much on my person.Oren F. Morten's has more but i don't own a copy.i researched the one my library already owned in the reference section.you could see if a library near you has one.Sorry i couldn't do more. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilysnanna172 Surnames: BURKE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Barbara: The books that you mentioned, do any of them list my ancestors names in them? Please advise. Melinda Black Thanks for the list of resources Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: emilysnanna172 Surnames: BURKE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.preston/2749.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dear Lucritia Moyer: Thanks for the update. Melinda Clark Black descendant of Cornelius Burke to Hiram Greenberry Burke to George Reason Burke to William N. Raymond Burke to Russell Pearl Burke and finally to my living mother (Goldie Maxine Burke Clark). So relationship wise is as follows: Goldie M. B. Clark - my mother Russell P. Burke - my grandfather William N. R. Burke - my great grandfather George R. Burke - my g.g.grandfather Hiram Greenberry Burke - my g.g.g.grandfather Cornelius Burke - my g.g.g.g.grandfather he came from IRELAND Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.