Ruby, I can use GEDCOM or if you just want to e-mail your "messy" copy to me, that would be fine. The information that I have, so far, I believe came from the Ancestral File. I have found that I cannot believe that 100%. I have to follow up and do my own checking to see if I agree with the other people's deductions. I have found many mistakes in there. I don't know the basis of their research. It may be the book of which you speak. I use them as a "skeleton" for my research, until I can "meat" it out with my own research. I know that the Tinglers are actually Dinglers from Germany. The hard pronunciation of the "D" sounds like a "T" to the non-German ear. That is how we got the Carr spelling on this side of the pond. In Germany, we are Karr. Jeff Carr of TX researching Ball, Barnes, Carr, Coley, Crow, Cunningham, Daly, Furse, Gibbs, Gregg, Hale, Hill, Killian, McCammon, McKnight, Merrill, Moore, Mundine, Myatt, Putt, Rowan, Shannon, Smith, Thompson, Tuckwood, Walker, Wallace, Wheeler, Yourie and allied lines