I don't know the answer but I can muddy the water some more. First, do not look to Morton as a source for this as he is wrong. It appears that Morton is confusing two different Jacob Simmons - one the father of Nariel and a Jacob Simmons (age 76 in 1860 census). It's interesting to note that Jacob R. Simmons, the father of Narial is listed in the 1860 census as "Jacob Simmons of J - age 53". I've seen George Ami Simmons listed throughout the internet as the father of our "Jacob R", but until I see proof dispelling the "Jacob of J", I'm leaving this section blank. I'm trying to prove (or disprove) the theory that Morton was half-right and the Jacob listed as the father of Narial was actually the grandfather of Narial. This would account for the "Jacob of J". However, don't quote me just yet. Also, there is an error in the 1850 census. It looks like Nariel is listed as 8m and not 8 years. He was also deaf. I'm interested in what sources you have as this is also my line. My grandmother was Millie Propst, daughter of Lewis (Dice) Propst. Gene Phares >>> "Mike and Teresa Losh" <[email protected]> 04/19/03 08:13PM >>> I am looking for information on my great-great grandmother Mary Alice Simmons who was born September 18, 1878. She married Lewis Mathias "Dice" Propst on June 5, 1896. Her parents were Narial Simmons and Hannah Barclay. This is where things get confusing. I am looking for someone to give me the correct line further back. I believe next is Jacob R. Simmons and after that George Ami Simmons. However, I have found different sources giving different spouses for both of these men. Also different birth years for Jacob. Does anyone have documentation showing the correct spouses for these men for my line?? I am also looking to tie in my other ancester Sarah Simmons, daughter of Leonard Simmons, who married Philip Wimer on March 24, 1785. Any information on Leonard's parents would be helpful so I can tie the two sets of Simmons together. Thanks Teresa Wimer Losh ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== Genealogy without documentation is mythology!