Here is Mary Alice family father Hugh A abt. 1832 mother Catharine abt. 1839 he remarried Effa White Nov. 12 1896 Randolph County children George 23 Mary Jean 21 Martha Ellen 17 Susan E 18 John 12 Alice 10 Joseph 6 Martie 4 Elizabeth 12- 1879 age's from 1880 Randolph County Census the Helmicks Father Joseph abt.1847 Mother Melvina abt. 1846 Children Mary S abt 1868 Martha E abt. 1870 Andrew L abt 1872 Phoebe J abt 1871 Sarah F abt 1873 Amos abt. 1874 Isaac F abt. 1877 Dates taken off Pendelton County 1880 census Hopes this helps you Bob