I have two photocopies from Elsie Byrd Boggs's papers: one is typed and lists the 13 children and their spouses of Michael Arbogast 1827-1917; the second is handwritten by Elsie about a visit from Mrs. Daisy ARbogast Hartman of Glendale, CAlifornia. If someone wants these, I will snail mail to them. Marsha -- Marsha L. Fuller Harper Family Website http://www.fred.net/mfuller