John Marville & Mary Helmick, 3/6/1817 by same This marriage is in Pendleton Co. Who is this John Marville? I can't seem to find anything about him. Becky

While this house is not in Pendleton County, the article is very interesting and applies to researching any old house. http://www.poststar.com/articles/2008/10/05/news/local/13975071.txt Nedra

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: p2gale1 Surnames: Douglass, Housel, Lewis, Hore Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/219.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I descend from William Douglass and Hannah McCoy that are mentioned in your query. He is my great, great grandfather. I would like to learn more about Douglass Family history and genealogy. I look forward to hearing from you or other Douglass family geneaologsts. Phyllis Gale Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jhallerwv Surnames: Helmick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1774/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am searching for any information about my grandmother, listed as Nellie (Helmick) Smith on her death certificate. Born 23 August, 1888 at Pendleton Co., WV Died 10 January, 1932 in Randolph Co., WV. Cause of death; carcinoma of cervix. Buried at Israel Chapel Church in Kerens, Randolph Co., WV. Parents listed as; father, Wood Helnmick, mother,? Woods. Was Married to Charles W. Smith 20 June, 1911 at Whythe Station, Randolph Co., WV. Any info/help would be greatly appreciated. - Jennie Haller - jhallerwv@hotmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: dtassey1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1773/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi...I have several copies available of a neat 1794 map of Virginia. Go to this link to see the original: http://cartweb.geography.ua.edu:9001/StyleServer/calcrgn?cat=North America and United States&item=States/Virginia/Virginia1794a.sid&wid=500&hei=400&props=item(Name,Description),cat(Name,Description)&style=simple/view-dhtml.xsl See the shape of Virgina before West Virginia became a state! If interested in obtaining a map, email me at dtassey@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

There is a Wyatt burried in Arnold Hill Cemetery in Randolph co, WV. You can google up this cemetery or email me at jeanneruss@webtv.net.

Hello Listers:   I am trying to find contact information for LESTER WYATT, son of ELAM CLAY WYATT, who was the son of BENJAMIN CLAY WYATT, who was the son of JOHN WYATT & ELIZABETH RAINES all of RANDOLPH CO., WV.   John was the son of Edmund/Edmond Wyatt/Wiatt born 1758 at Wyatt’s Run, Pendleton Co., VA (W)V and supposedly came to Randolph Co., (W)VA by 1790.   I have found where Edmond bought land in Randolph Co., WV in 1812 and was in the census there through the 1840.   Lester Wyatt gave some very important family information on his ancestor EDMUND WYATT several years before 1999 and supposedly this was in a handwritten letter.   My cousins and I are from this Edmond/Edmund Wyatt line and would really like to talk with Lester and/or perhaps some of his children or nieces/nephews or siblings if possible.   Is there anyone on the list that could possibly help us contact Lester or one of his family? Thank you in advance for any help you can give. Best regards, Lynda Wyatt Green in TX  

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rdspencer120 Surnames: Carr, Hillyard, Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/32.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I realize that your message on this info is 3 years old, but, do you have any information bringing this family, ei, Jacob Carr,Sr , up to at least residence in Iowa, after 1858 ? I am trying to establish whether or not this is my Mom's ancestry line. Her grandfather was John M. Carr, son of Jacob Carr, Jr and Sarah Hillyard . According to Goodspeed Publishing Co, Chicago, Ill, 1888 , Jacob Carr,Jr, was born in Pennsylvania in 1815 ; his father, Jacob Carr, Sr. was a native of Pa (also Scotch-German descent)and moved the family from Pa to Fayette County, Ohio in 1817, then on to Allen County, Ohio, where Jacob Sr. died (no death year established at this time ). Jacob Carr, Jr. married Sarah Hillyard (exact date unknown) in Allen County, Ohio and they had 10 children : Joseph, Margaret, Harriet, Mary, John M., Thomas, Susanna, Katherine, Jane and Jacob ; all the children were born in Allen County, Ohio ; Sarah Hillyard Carr died before 1858 ; Jacob Carr, Jr, married Susan Stu! ckey , had two more children (unknown names), moved to Davis County, Iowa and there died (year unknown). I know most of the history from John M. Carr forward, but have little or no knowledge of Jacobs Jr and Sr----in other words, I cannot confirm the info that Goodspeed has written . If I could connect this with most of the other info online, Jacob Carr, Sr would be a native of Va, not Pa and his lineage would take me to Jacob Carr Margaret Mallow , Jacob being the son of Georg Heinrich Karr (Carr) and Sarah Beidert Peterson . My problem is trying to prove this lineage with very limited resource information at my dispossal. I live in the sticks and the nearest library is about 30 miles, but it's genealogy room is mainly for local genealogy ....any way you might be able to help me construct the bridge to this history? Thanking you in advance , I am........DLS Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waterld Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/189.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ray, Would love to see your pedigree, and any other info you have for Arley John Kesner. Arley was a younger brother of my grandfather, Casper William Kesner. You can contact me direct at waterld@infowest.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I was asked to explain the marriage volume notations. The usual format for such a notation is volume number, colon, and page number. The more recent editions of Chicago Manual of Style do not require the word "page" be used unless the meaning would otherwise be confusing. The earliest Pendleton County volume of marriages is entitled on the spine of the book "Record of Marriages 1800-1852" since these are the years which are covered in this book. There was a record of earlier marrages, ca. 1787 to 1800 but this has not been found for many decades. Sometimes this first volume is shorted to just Register of Marriages 1800 with the colon and page added, thus Pend Co. Reg of Mrg 1800:35 would be an abbreviated notation for a marriage recorded on page 35 of the Pendleton County Register of Marriages 1800-1852. The spine of the next volume is "Register of Marriages 1853" but the title page used on the LDS microfilm is Register of Marriages 1. Thus, you could see either one in a reference which refers to the same book. Mary Harter's transcribed version of the Pendleton County Marrage Records has the dates 1788-1853 because she used additional sources for her marriages. Hope this makes things clearer. Be sure to ask if you have questions. Nedra Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist ndbrill@comcast.net Oregon State DAR Parliamentarian Henckel National Genealogist & Editor Henckel Genealogical Bulletin Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, wvpendle-l@rootsweb.com CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1772/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have information about Michael Tingler, Rev War soldier,a son John Tingler married Phoebe Dolly in Pendleton Co.W.V.Need Tingler family documents to join DAR. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1771/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Does anyone have information about Michael Tingler, Rev War soldier,a son John Tingler married Phoebe Dolly in Pendleton Co.W.V.Need Tingler family documents to join DAR. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you Sandra. John At 07:28 PM 7/22/2008, you wrote: >John, > >1. Bosworth's History of Randolph County from its Earliest is one of >many sources which indicate that Conrad descendants believed the >Conrad pioneers, Jacob and Ulrich, to be brothers. > >http://books.google.com/books?id=2jKxm9swFC4C&pg=PA332&lpg=PA332&dq=switzerland+%22ulrich+conrad%22&source=web&ots=xr4KKZLIKD&sig=BLKU6J8vCJPXULILfT9TaWiUpk0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA336,M1<http://books.google.com/books?id=2jKxm9swFC4C&pg=PA332&lpg=PA332&dq=switzerland+%22ulrich+conrad%22&source=web&ots=xr4KKZLIKD&sig=BLKU6J8vCJPXULILfT9TaWiUpk0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA336,M1> > >[You may have use the search option to find the citations for Ulrich >Conrad if the link doesn't take you to the right page.] Also, some >research with the ship passengers list will show Jacob and Ulrich >did not arrive at the same nor on the same ship rather the "Ully" >and Hans arrived somewhat earlier. > >2. Ulrich is proven by probate activity to have been the brother and >heir-at-law of Hans Conrad [heir-at-law would indicate that Hans - >aka John - died without surviving children or a wife]. Therefore, >if Ulrich was the brother of Jacob, so was Hans. > > >Sandra Keltner

John, 1. Bosworth's History of Randolph County from its Earliest is one of many sources which indicate that Conrad descendants believed the Conrad pioneers, Jacob and Ulrich, to be brothers. http://books.google.com/books?id=2jKxm9swFC4C&pg=PA332&lpg=PA332&dq=switzerland+%22ulrich+conrad%22&source=web&ots=xr4KKZLIKD&sig=BLKU6J8vCJPXULILfT9TaWiUpk0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA336,M1<http://books.google.com/books?id=2jKxm9swFC4C&pg=PA332&lpg=PA332&dq=switzerland+%22ulrich+conrad%22&source=web&ots=xr4KKZLIKD&sig=BLKU6J8vCJPXULILfT9TaWiUpk0&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result#PPA336,M1> [You may have use the search option to find the citations for Ulrich Conrad if the link doesn't take you to the right page.] Also, some research with the ship passengers list will show Jacob and Ulrich did not arrive at the same nor on the same ship rather the "Ully" and Hans arrived somewhat earlier. 2. Ulrich is proven by probate activity to have been the brother and heir-at-law of Hans Conrad [heir-at-law would indicate that Hans - aka John - died without surviving children or a wife]. Therefore, if Ulrich was the brother of Jacob, so was Hans. Sandra Keltner ----- Original Message ----- From: John Gray<mailto:revjgray@wowway.com> To: wvpendle@rootsweb.com<mailto:wvpendle@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Samuel Morral's 290a from Ulrich Conrad and howSwitzer's Run was likely named ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVPENDLE-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:WVPENDLE-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List - My wife descends from Jacob Conrad but I do not show an older Ulrich (your message below) in my databse. It appears this older Ulrich could be a brother of Jacob. Do you know how he relates to Jacob? Jacob's dau Elizabeth m. George Fisher and my wife descends on this line. 1 Jacob Conrad/Frena Lauck, 2 Elizabeth Conrad/George Fisher, 3 John Fisher/Anna Miller, 4 Zebulon Fisher/Susannah Upperman, 5 Isaac Newton Fisher/Hulda Hanawalt, 6 Edward Estal Fisher/Clara Belle Switzer, 7 Jesse Estal Fisher/Helen Ione Ramlow, 8 Helen Belle Fisher/Harold Smith, who are my wife's parents. John Gray, Grove City, OH

Very interesting how the name came to be and how it was changed over the years. Thank you! -----Original Message----- From: wvpendle-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvpendle-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 9:40 AM To: WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Samuel Morral's 290a from Ulrich Conrad and howSwitzer's Run was likely named This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: slkmallow Surnames: Aberman, Conrad, Lough, Mallow, Morral, Morton, Seybert, Skidmore Classification: deed Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1769.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Per Morton in his History of Pendleton County, Ulrich Conrad had a survey of 240 acres near Deer Run P.O. in 1753 which was patented in 1761 and a 50 acre parcel at Deer Run patented in 1757. Research in the survey book for Augusta County shows that both were surveyed in late October 1753 at the same time as Michael Mallow's 470 acres and Jacob Seybert's 88 acres. Per Chalkley, the Conrads sold the larger tract in 1763: Page 263.--28th June, 1763. Walreck Conrad, planter, and Margaret (signed in German) to Samuel Morral, Jr., of Amherst Co., planter, £40, 240 acres on the Mountain between South Fork and South Branch of Potomac, on Switcher's branch, now in possession of said Samuel Morrall. Delivered: Samuel Morrall, 25th June, 1787. 1763 seems to be the year the settlers were returning to business as usual in this area. This was after the successful end of the French and Indian War and five years after the massacres at Fort Upper Tract and Seybert's fort which had virtually emptied the area of the few settlers still willing to face the likelihood of Indian raids. The land tax list for Rockingham County in 1782 indicates that Samuel Morrel was taxed for 290 acres which is the combined total of the two Conrad parcels. His estate was taxed for the same amount in 1787 in Rockingham County. Research of the various subsequent neighboring grants proves conclusively that the larger Conrad grant which was described in the grant as on Switcher's Branch was, indeed, just east of Deer Run P.O. and further research over several decades in the conveyances of this parcel and neighboring parcels proves that Switcher's Branch was the early name of Deer Run. [See previous post regarding Warren Skidmore's discussion of the location of Switser's Run] Landmarks, of course, did not have English names until the settlers applied them but the early Conrad grants mention Switchers Run or Branch. Most landmarks were named for a feature, such as Stoney Run, or in honor of an early nearby settler, such as Harpole Knob and some were even called by an approximation of the name given by the Indians who had hunted in this area for centuries prior to the coming of the settlers. Switcher's Run appeared to be named for an early settler but none by that name had received a land grant in the area. There were various mentions by several spellings in different recordings over the years of what was the same stream on the portion of the area between the headwaters of modern day Deer Run and through the gap west of the headwaters. A few key variations of the name are listed here: 10 Nov 1757 Ulrich Conrad's 50 acre grant describes the property as on Switchers Run. 7 Aug 1761 Ulrich Conrad's 240 acres grant describes the property as on Switchers Branch. 16 Feb 1771 Jacob Aberman's grant describes the single line he shared with Morral (the old Conrad grant of 240 acres) as being on a line of the Switzerland 29 Aug 1797 Adam Lough's 138 acre parcel is described as on Switser Run 5 Dec 1809 Samuel Morral's heirs sold the original Conrad grant of 240 acres and it was described as on Swishers Branch which starts another variation of the same name. The third item was particularly intriguing since it is known that Ulrich Conrad was born and raised in Switzerland. Switzer is actually an archaic term for someone from Switzerland. So it seems likely the stream Switzer's Run or Branch would then have been called in honor of the place of origin of the man who first received a grant on it, Ulrich Conrad. It was very common for the Palatine immigrants to name places in the "new land' in honor of places from "home". The earlier recording of Switchers is most likely a mild corruption of Switzer - something the English speaking surveyor thought he heard when the German speaking Conrad, or, perhaps, one of his German speaking neighbors Mallow or Seybert, said the name of the stream. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Atranscriber Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1769.3.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Three replies were posted to this message on the WVPENDLE mailing list and is in the archives at: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WVPENDLE/2008-07/1216335634 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WVPENDLE/2008-07/1216341923 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/WVPENDLE/2008-07/1216343549 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: slkmallow Surnames: Aberman, Conrad, Lough, Mallow, Morral, Morton, Seybert, Skidmore Classification: deed Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1769.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Per Morton in his History of Pendleton County, Ulrich Conrad had a survey of 240 acres near Deer Run P.O. in 1753 which was patented in 1761 and a 50 acre parcel at Deer Run patented in 1757. Research in the survey book for Augusta County shows that both were surveyed in late October 1753 at the same time as Michael Mallow's 470 acres and Jacob Seybert's 88 acres. Per Chalkley, the Conrads sold the larger tract in 1763: Page 263.--28th June, 1763. Walreck Conrad, planter, and Margaret (signed in German) to Samuel Morral, Jr., of Amherst Co., planter, £40, 240 acres on the Mountain between South Fork and South Branch of Potomac, on Switcher's branch, now in possession of said Samuel Morrall. Delivered: Samuel Morrall, 25th June, 1787. 1763 seems to be the year the settlers were returning to business as usual in this area. This was after the successful end of the French and Indian War and five years after the massacres at Fort Upper Tract and Seybert's fort which had virtually emptied the area of the few settlers still willing to face the likelihood of Indian raids. The land tax list for Rockingham County in 1782 indicates that Samuel Morrel was taxed for 290 acres which is the combined total of the two Conrad parcels. His estate was taxed for the same amount in 1787 in Rockingham County. Research of the various subsequent neighboring grants proves conclusively that the larger Conrad grant which was described in the grant as on Switcher's Branch was, indeed, just east of Deer Run P.O. and further research over several decades in the conveyances of this parcel and neighboring parcels proves that Switcher's Branch was the early name of Deer Run. [See previous post regarding Warren Skidmore's discussion of the location of Switser's Run] Landmarks, of course, did not have English names until the settlers applied them but the early Conrad grants mention Switchers Run or Branch. Most landmarks were named for a feature, such as Stoney Run, or in honor of an early nearby settler, such as Harpole Knob and some were even called by an approximation of the name given by the Indians who had hunted in this area for centuries prior to the coming of the settlers. Switcher's Run appeared to be named for an early settler but none by that name had received a land grant in the area. There were various mentions by several spellings in different recordings over the years of what was the same stream on the portion of the area between the headwaters of modern day Deer Run and through the gap west of the headwaters. A few key variations of the name are listed here: 10 Nov 1757 Ulrich Conrad's 50 acre grant describes the property as on Switchers Run. 7 Aug 1761 Ulrich Conrad's 240 acres grant describes the property as on Switchers Branch. 16 Feb 1771 Jacob Aberman's grant describes the single line he shared with Morral (the old Conrad grant of 240 acres) as being on a line of the Switzerland 29 Aug 1797 Adam Lough's 138 acre parcel is described as on Switser Run 5 Dec 1809 Samuel Morral's heirs sold the original Conrad grant of 240 acres and it was described as on Swishers Branch which starts another variation of the same name. The third item was particularly intriguing since it is known that Ulrich Conrad was born and raised in Switzerland. Switzer is actually an archaic term for someone from Switzerland. So it seems likely the stream Switzer's Run or Branch would then have been called in honor of the place of origin of the man who first received a grant on it, Ulrich Conrad. It was very common for the Palatine immigrants to name places in the "new land' in honor of places from "home". The earlier recording of Switchers is most likely a mild corruption of Switzer - something the English speaking surveyor thought he heard when the German speaking Conrad, or, perhaps, one of his German speaking neighbors Mallow or Seybert, said the name of the stream. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

The Fort Seybert Heritage Educational Association (FSHEA) is conducting cemetery surveys in the Deer Run area on July 19. We are concentrating on cemeteries with burials of 1900 and earlier. This is part of our Identification and Preservation Project. The surveys will be stored at the State Historic Preservation Office in Charleston and available, when completed, in the Pendleton County Library. The cemetery, according to the 1977 Grave Register is on Troublesome Valley Rd. The early owner was Adam Lough. The present owner in 1977 was Dr. R. H. Boggs. Adam H. Lough (1824-1892) and his wife Naomi (Eye) Lough (1830-1904 were among those listed at that time. The earliest burial was shown as Robert N. Lough (1827-1829). I'll see if it can be found. Any additional information you may have would be appreciated. Or if you have questions about this project. FSHEA is also working on an interactive DVD documentary of the water powered mills. The Mallow Mill in Kline with an interview by David Mallow is included. Sandra Pope, Chairman/Project Manager FSHEA **************Get fantasy football with free live scoring. Sign up for FanHouse Fantasy Football today. (http://www.fanhouse.com/fantasyaffair?ncid=aolspr00050000000020)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: 13LCorder Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.westvirginia.counties.pendleton/1769.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have a picture of the grave of Adam Lough on Deer Run. The marker was pointed out to me some years ago by one of his descendants who lived on the property. Lyle Corder Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.