This is a worthy ideal. As a courtesy to those who I committed this offense with, please excuse me. My source for the info regarding Jacob Huffman was from the "Colaws of West Virginia", by Shirley Colaw. John Colaw ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Julia Christianson <juliac@patriot.net> Reply-To: WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:28:23 -0500 > Please, PLEASE, include the source of your information when you post data > and questions to the list. The Internet has become an explosion of > mis-information and let's all hope that OUR list does not contribute to > this further. Dear Nedra, Thank you for this post. I'm always disappointed when people don't specify their sources -- but I had wondered if that behavior might be an unspoken rule of genealogical etiquette on the order of "I'll tell you the facts I know but if you want the sources you can find them yourself, like I did" -- it's good to know that that's not so. Your post raises a another issue that's been nagging me ... back in the days before computers, it was fairly easy to distinguish in one's working papers between well-documented facts and undocumented leads/speculation by using pencil, inserting a question mark (or 3) etc. -- with computers this isn't so easy, and I think this is part of the reason errors are rife on the internet. But I do want to enter these undocumented people/events in my database to suggest future avenues for research, and so forth. However, once they get in there it's hard to tell from the overview level which ones are solidly researched and which ones aren't. So the question: how does a professional deal with this issue? (As a programmer, I'd use a color-coding scheme, but to my knowledge none of the real programmers have thought of that). -- Julia

Don Catherine Heavner, who married John Dean, is buried beside her husband in the Heavner Cemetery in Upshur Co., WV. She died 19 August 1877 according to the tombstone and death records of Upshur Co. Right behind her grave are the graves of her parents, Nicholas Heavner and Mary Propts Heavner. I suggest that there are 2 or more Catherine Heavner's. Hope this helps alittle. Ronna :)

In a message dated 99-11-10 10:29:12 EST, juliac@patriot.net writes: << So the question: how does a professional deal with this issue? (As a programmer, I'd use a color-coding scheme, but to my knowledge none of the real programmers have thought of that). -- Julia >> I am just hunt and peck trying to find what I can about my family line. I keep stuff on a chart (Table-Word) and I use color coding. It's just easy for me to see at a glance. Again, this is just what works for me - but I am NOT a professional gen. person. Doing the best i can with all the intertwine of distant cousins. Barbara

Hello. I would like to thank everyone who has been helping me straighten out the crooked branches of our family tree. I am now looking for parent, sibling and birthdate information for Frederick Valentine Colaw - supposedly 1750, also known simply as Valentine Colaw, or "Felty". Also looking for same info on his wife Mary Huffman (1755). Additionally any information regarding a Terah Colaw, (or Collo, Coller, or Kohler). Thanks so much. This list is a wonderful boon for researchers. John Colaw

I inadvertently left out a word in the first sentence of the first paragraph. It should have read: "John was living in Pendleton County but he is from parts unknown, and she is listed as Margaret in the 1860-70 Lewis Co. Census and on her Tombstone in Lewis Co." Sorry about that Don Wilson Chalmette, LA

Dear Faithful Readers, We all greatly appreciate the assistance offered to researchers of the Pendleton County families. Since the physical topography of the land did not allow suitors to wander far from their immediate neighborhood, the families became very entwined. Most of us are double and triple cousins. We have many new members so it seems time to remind us all of one basic rule you must put up with when you have a List Moderator who is Certified. This remainder is not directed at any singular message or posting, but is the major reason that our list enjoys an outstanding reputation for quality genealogical assistance. Please, PLEASE, include the source of your information when you post data and questions to the list. The Internet has become an explosion of mis-information and let's all hope that OUR list does not contribute to this further. It is NOT appropriate to write: >Jacob Smith was the son of Buster and Barbara (Jones) Smith, according to my resource material. "My resource material," as a source, is not appropriate, as it is impossible to analyze for accuracy. If the statement is based upon primary data, like a church record or will, this citation must be included. It makes LOTS of difference in our discussion of the accuracy of the information. If it is from the works of another person, it is somewhere between common courtesy and copyright laws to give credit to that person and the publication or Internet web site. Unfortunally, I could respond that "This is wrong--Jacob was the son of Jack Smith and Susie Q. who immigrated from Timbuktu in 1650!" And, within a few months this will pop up in innumerable family files on web sites all over the Internet. <G> BTW, about 95% of the Hinkle web sites have inaccurate data on that family. The first one, posted on a county genealogy society web site, had mistakes and everyone since has just recopied these errors. More is not always better. 'Nuf said and I will get off my soap box. Perhaps I should offer a prize to the first list member who spots an Internet compilation of a Pendleton County ancestor born in Timbuktu! <G> Remember, genealogy without documentation is mythology! Nedra Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist brillnd@pacifier.com Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, wvpendle-l@rootsweb.com CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board.

In a message dated 99-11-10 00:08:28 EST, pendhist@access.mountain.net writes: << We have a photo of that Pyramid in our collection. I will look it up, and if you wish, have a copy made for you. Koren Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 Pendleton Co., WVa Historical Preservation Association pendhist@access.mountain.net >> Yes, I would love that. Please advise of cost. Also, do you have "direct" e-mail address or is penhist----- above your direct address. Barbara

Amen! I am still trying to clarify the ancestry of my Gr. Gr. Grandmother Catherine Heavner m. George Mumbert. WV Gen Web shows she married John Dean in 1814, or two years after the birth of my Gr. Grandmother, Margaret Mumbert Harris. Pendleton Co. Marriage Records show Margaret as Rebecca and married John Harris. John was living in Pendleton County but he is from parts unknown, and is listed as Margaret in the 1860-70 Lewis Co. Census and on her Tombstone in Lewis Co. If that's not confusing enough, George was the father of several of Margaret's siblings after Catherine Heavener supposedly had married John Dean. George did not marry Catherine Blizzard until 1828. The Catherine listed here is the daughter of Cutlip Heavner. Woe is me! I think I will go back to the tree stump and the crow scenario that my mother used to use, to determine my ancestry. Between Morton's, Pendleton Co. Marriage Records, and the WV Gen Web I am about to go bezonkers. PS According to information found at the Library at the Pendleton County seat, in one of the Heavner (Heffner) books, Catherine Heavner Mumbert died in 1828 and was probably buried on the Mumbert Farm in Pendleton Co. Woe, Woe is me! Don Wilson Chalmette, LA

-----Original Message----- From: Bchico@aol.com <Bchico@aol.com> To: WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 5:38 AM Subject: The Pendleton Co. Area >Hi everyone - >I personally think that the Pendleton County area is simply one of the certain .... >I remember that on the way up to Germany Valley area, through the mountains, >from Arlington, VA, there was a strip on the mountain highway that had a >PYRAMID of stone that was a water fountain. We always stopped there. >It was within the last 10 years I believe that on a visit there with my dad, >the Pyramid was GONE - it had been taken down. .... >Anyone out there remember that Pyramid Watering Fountain?..... Barbara> We have a photo of that Pyramid in our collection. I will look it up, and if you wish, have a copy made for you. Koren Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 Pendleton Co., WVa Historical Preservation Association pendhist@access.mountain.net

I'd like to thank all of you for setting me straight on this. For some reason it just didn't seem right. Now I have the correct info. Best Wishes, Rosemary

I hope it's as nice as you say. I am leaving today to go there. I will be there Wed-Thurs hopefully digging around the library...........(of course) If anyone interested poke your head in the library...would love to put a face to the name! Pam http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~firebird/Coil.htm pamrooney@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Bchico@aol.com> To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 09, 1999 4:35 AM Subject: The Pendleton Co. Area > Hi everyone - > I personally think that the Pendleton County area is simply one of the most > beautiful places around and try to visit every time I ever get a chance which > is not often, unfortunately. > I can certainly remember visiting there as a child - and it had a certain > smell (nice) and sound to it. I know, sounds strange, but it is true. > I remember that on the way up to Germany Valley area, through the mountains, > from Arlington, VA, there was a strip on the mountain highway that had a > PYRAMID of stone that was a water fountain. We always stopped there. > It was within the last 10 years I believe that on a visit there with my dad, > the Pyramid was GONE - it had been taken down. I was so saddened by that > becuase it was such a neat "little watering" hole. > Anyone out there remember that Pyramid Watering Fountain? > As a resident now of FL, there are times when I just long for those > mountains, and that air, especially during our hot summers - Phew!!!! Palm > Trees get boring after awhile - :) and when you live here, you can't do sun > EVERYDAY. > I also remember a trip to Seneca Rocks - oh, in the last 6 years, I couldn't > believe all the SUV's from VA/Wash., D.C. area that were parked in the > parking lot - I guess the area is becoming a "tourist" site???? > Well, enough babbling here. > Barbara >

Hi everyone - I personally think that the Pendleton County area is simply one of the most beautiful places around and try to visit every time I ever get a chance which is not often, unfortunately. I can certainly remember visiting there as a child - and it had a certain smell (nice) and sound to it. I know, sounds strange, but it is true. I remember that on the way up to Germany Valley area, through the mountains, from Arlington, VA, there was a strip on the mountain highway that had a PYRAMID of stone that was a water fountain. We always stopped there. It was within the last 10 years I believe that on a visit there with my dad, the Pyramid was GONE - it had been taken down. I was so saddened by that becuase it was such a neat "little watering" hole. Anyone out there remember that Pyramid Watering Fountain? As a resident now of FL, there are times when I just long for those mountains, and that air, especially during our hot summers - Phew!!!! Palm Trees get boring after awhile - :) and when you live here, you can't do sun EVERYDAY. I also remember a trip to Seneca Rocks - oh, in the last 6 years, I couldn't believe all the SUV's from VA/Wash., D.C. area that were parked in the parking lot - I guess the area is becoming a "tourist" site???? Well, enough babbling here. Barbara

Hi everyone - Just thought I would take a "shot" here - Is anyone out there related to a Kimble Family, they were furniture store owners - I believe one was named Mildred Kimble? I see Kimble names and thought I would ask. Thank you. Barbara

In a message dated 99-11-08 23:26:30 EST, pendhist@access.mountain.net writes: << The Pendleton Times office has some issues back in the 40's, but I am not sure what dates. We have a large collection of Pendleton Times, but I am not able to go thru them. I have Reactive Airways Disease, and can't handle the dust and newsprint. If you are near here, you are welcome to come look thru them. We live in Franklin, WV. >> What a very kind offer. Just might take you up on that offer some day. Barbara

John, Some of your Colaws are buried in the Sugar Creek Cemetery, Baptist Cemetery, RT 36, west of Washington Court House, Fayette Co., OH. There is a Valentine listed-reads: d 28 Nov 1852 (85-86?) years old. No wife listed If you are unable to get these records e-mail to me direct and I will mail you a copy of the cemetery listings. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~firebird/Coil.htm pamrooney@prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Scarecrow <scarecrow@colaw.net> To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: November 08, 1999 3:03 PM Subject: Huffman/Colaw/Kohler/ > I am still trying to find parent information on 2 Huffmans: > Mary Huffman who married Frederick Valentine Colaw (1750). > Christian Huffman (1755) who married Catherine Colaw (1763). > > Also any additional parent children info one link either direction. > Any information regarding Frederick Valentine Kohler or Valentine Kohler > (or Colaw). > > Thanks. > John Colaw >

The Pendleton Times office has some issues back in the 40's, but I am not sure what dates. We have a large collection of Pendleton Times, but I am not able to go thru them. I have Reactive Airways Disease, and can't handle the dust and newsprint. If you are near here, you are welcome to come look thru them. We live in Franklin, WV. Koren Fae Rawlings P.O. Box 887 Franklin, WV 26807-0887 304-358-3261 -----Original Message----- From: Bchico@aol.com <Bchico@aol.com> To: WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, November 06, 1999 10:47 PM Subject: The Pendleton Times >Hi everyone: > >Can anyone tell me how I can get back obits from the Pendleton Times - >1942, for example. >Barbara > >

Hi everyone. I'm new to this list. My genealogy research is my Grandmother Grace Elizabeth Mongold family. She was born in 1893 - Grant Co., WV. to David Clinton MONGOLD and Mary Ellen YANKEY. Mary Ellen YANKEY's parents were Harvey Washington Yankey and Mary Margaret Ketterman. Does anyone have info on the marriage of Jacob C. Ketterman and Mary Ann ARBOGAST m.January 13, 1820 Pendleton', 'Virginia. They had a daughter named Mary Margaret Ketterman but is it the same Mary Margaret who married Harvey Washington Yankey? Hoping someone could give me more info on this. Best Wishes, Rosemary

In a message dated 99-11-08 22:45:53 EST, scarecrow@colaw.net writes: << hat is correct. These are the children of Jacob C. Ketterman and Mary Ann Arbogast, daughter of John and Hannah (Davis) Arbogast. Jacob served in Captain Jethro Nevill's Company of the Virginia Militia. But Mary Margaret Ketterman is not their daughter. That was the question if the first place. >> Thanx for clearing this up. Barbara

In a message dated 99-11-08 22:00:38 EST, scarecrow@colaw.net writes: << Mary Margaret is the child of the Grant Co., W. VA Jacob Ketterman who married Sarah Mallow, daughter of Henry Mallow. Married May 15, 1823 in Pendleton county, VA. The Jacob C. Ketterman you speak of had 11 children: Salem Hannah Leah Rebecca Nicholas Harper Joseph Sarah >> Hi - I am confused as this Jacob C. Ketterman on my chart is married to Mary Ann Arbogast and they are show as having the above children. Not saying this is absolute, but there is a mistake somewhere. Barbara

In a message dated 99-11-08 20:32:31 EST, rmary@oasisol.com writes: << Does anyone have info on the marriage of Jacob C. Ketterman and Mary Ann ARBOGAST m.January 13, 1820 Pendleton', 'Virginia. They had a daughter named Mary Margaret Ketterman but is it the same Mary Margaret who married Harvey Washington Yankey? Hoping someone could give me more info on this. >> Hi My chart shows that Mary Ann Arbogast b.1800/1801, Married Jacob Ketterman 1/13/1820. http://www.parsonstech.com/genealogy/trees/deastin1/d23.htm#P23 go to this site and it will give kids of Mary Ann and Jacob. Barbara