Sorry, but I don't have a scanner hopefully I will get one soon, like this weekend. When I do I promise I will scan those photos. I do know I have photos of Mahala Cooper, "Strawdie" Wolford, Will Wolford, Ona and Virgie Teter (as children), and I believe some of the Raines family. Most of these pictures are of the Spessert family that lived in Tucker county. I hope someone on the list might be able to identify some of the ones that aren't labeled. Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Cooper <janet.l.cooper@worldnet.att.net> To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 9:08 PM Subject: Re: Wimer Family > Rebecca, I also would love to see the photos if you have them scanned in. > I know a few relatives of the Samuel Cooper line back in Tucker county who > might be able to identify them or I could compare them with some of the > Cooper photos I have. > Janet Cooper in Missouri > janet.l.cooper@worldnet.att.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SnowBeri@aol.com> > To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, 28 February 2000 4:59 > Subject: Wimer Family > > > > In a message dated 2/28/2000 3:34:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, > > rlucas@neo.rr.com writes: > > > > << Yes, that is the same family. I have some different names, but I might > have > > nicknames for some. I have as Elizabeth Wimer and Samuel Cooper's > children > > the following: > > John m. Elmira McDonald Martha m. Jim Raines > > Anna m. Miles Vance Mahala m. Frank Spessert > > Job m. Molly Smith Melvina m. Aaron Rohrbaugh > > Daniel m. Anna Harper Elizabeth m. Claude Wolford > > Adam m. Sally Siler Henrietta m. Anderson > > Wolford > > Martin m. Jane Wolford Jane m. Martin Bonner > > Abraham m. Jenny Bennett > > Mary m. Anderson Roy >> > > Do I understand this? There are 14 children for Elizabeth and Samuel? I > > have quite a bit on the Wolford lineage if anyone is interested. > > Also, I would love to see the Wolford photos you mentioned? I can read a > > jpg, bmp or nearly anything else... > > Regards, > > Diane > > > > > > >

Rebecca, I also would love to see the photos if you have them scanned in. I know a few relatives of the Samuel Cooper line back in Tucker county who might be able to identify them or I could compare them with some of the Cooper photos I have. Janet Cooper in Missouri janet.l.cooper@worldnet.att.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <SnowBeri@aol.com> To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, 28 February 2000 4:59 Subject: Wimer Family > In a message dated 2/28/2000 3:34:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, > rlucas@neo.rr.com writes: > > << Yes, that is the same family. I have some different names, but I might have > nicknames for some. I have as Elizabeth Wimer and Samuel Cooper's children > the following: > John m. Elmira McDonald Martha m. Jim Raines > Anna m. Miles Vance Mahala m. Frank Spessert > Job m. Molly Smith Melvina m. Aaron Rohrbaugh > Daniel m. Anna Harper Elizabeth m. Claude Wolford > Adam m. Sally Siler Henrietta m. Anderson > Wolford > Martin m. Jane Wolford Jane m. Martin Bonner > Abraham m. Jenny Bennett > Mary m. Anderson Roy >> > Do I understand this? There are 14 children for Elizabeth and Samuel? I > have quite a bit on the Wolford lineage if anyone is interested. > Also, I would love to see the Wolford photos you mentioned? I can read a > jpg, bmp or nearly anything else... > Regards, > Diane > >

Thanks for asking about Brocks Gap Heritage Day! The tenth annual Heritage Day is scheduled for Sat., April 8, from 11 a.m. to 4 p.m. at Fulks Run Elementary School, Fulks Run, VA (Rockingham Co.) Brocks Gap is in the northwestern part of Rockingham Co., and the name refers to the geographical area drained by the North Fork of the Shenandoah River before it flows through the gap in North Mountain called "Brocks Gap." The Post Offices of Fulks Run, Bergton (formerly Dovesville), and Criders are located in Brocks Gap. The Brocks Gap area is just across the Shenandoah Mountain from Pendleton Co. Fort Seybert is about 10 miles from the home of my parents-in-laws, as the crow flies. Especially in the pioneer days, there were a number of intermarriages between some of the Pendleton Co. & Brocks Gap families. (Trumbo, Riddle/Ruddel, Dove, Keister/Custer, Shaver, Turner, to name a few). Here is more information about Heritage Day: For those who have been to Heritage Day and want to have a display table this time, let me know by March 30 that you want us to save you a space. Please bring your own table, & let me know ahead of time if you need access to an electrical plug. Set-up time will be 5-6:30 p.m. Friday evening or Sat. morning 9:30-10:30. If you haven't been to Heritage Day, here's what happens: Brocks Gap Heritage Day is sponsored by my parents, Garnett & Lena Turner, and me. My mother & I have an extensive collection of old photos of families in the community, and we've made over 100 displays of them which will be shown at Heritage Day. I'll have all my research & published books available to use plus my collection of other family & local histories. Part of the purpose of Heritage Day is to collect copies of old photos or Bibles or letters or other documents from Brocks Gap families to add them to our general collection for future books. We also preserve the information by giving a copy of the documents we collect to James Madison University Special Collections Library in Harrisonburg. Lewis Yankey, now 96 1/2 years old, has lived in the Criders area of Brocks Gap his entire life. He wrote down lots of stories, traditions, and family connections for the families of the area. About 10 years ago I organized his notebooks and typed about 17 books from his notes, ranging in size from 44 pages to 350 pages. While his books do not bring the families to the present day, his work makes good outlines for starting research. His books will be available at Heritage Day to use for research. New copies will be available for sale. Other family historians will be there to discuss their work & sell their books. Last year at our 9th Heritage Day, 300 people from 10 states attended. Lots of information was traded, cousins were introduced to each other, and I think everyone left with warm feelings about family and heritage. We expect to fill the gym, lunchroom & hallway this year. We will probably have a Civil War reenactor who will reminisce about "his" or "her" life during the Civil War. There is no admission charge (donations accepted to help pay to fix up the old family cemeteries at Fulks Run) Hope to see you at Heritage Day. Pat Turner Ritchie 1559 Moffett Dr. Winchester, VA 22601

The Wimers are not my line, but when I was struggling with the Simmons line years ago I think that Mary Harter said she had worked out that family. She was a Wimer somehow or other. Does anyone know where her notes, etc. might be? The answers may be in them as she was an excellant researcher. I know she said that Morton had them all mixed up--just like the Simmons family. Jean

Thanks for the info about the maps program...was hoping there might be something on a website somewhere so I didn't have to use additional software programs! Susan

Hi Wimer researcher, Does anyone have any idea what the maiden name of Henry Wimer's wife Catherine was? Thanks, J. Van Kirk >From: "Janet Cooper" <janet.l.cooper@worldnet.att.net> >Reply-To: WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com >To: WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: Elizabeth Wimer b. 1831 >Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 15:33:52 -0600 > >According to the will for Henry Wimer I (Pend. Co. Will Book 4, p. 73), >Henry lists his wife as Catherine but gave no children's names. The will >was written 29 Dec 1824 and was proved in court 2 Mar 1825. Catherine's >estate was settled in 1829, (Pendleton co. Inventory book). This Henry >first appeared on the tax lists in 1794. He is on the muster roll of >Pendleton militia in Capt. William Janes' Co. > >Here's an interesting tidbit of information. In a newspaper article in the >Clarksburg Sunday Exponent and Telegram, 25 Jun 1933 entilted Jacob P. >Wimer >represents Fourth Generation of early W.Va. Pioneers, describes Henry Wimer >the immigrant as follows: >"Henry Weimar, one of the four brothers who came to America from Germany, >was the ancestor of the West Virginia Wimers. He settled in Pendleton >county east of the Allegheny mountains and fought through the Revolution as >an American soldier. His mother died at sea as the family was crossing the >Atlantic ocean on the way to America. > "Eccentric in passion, this pioneer held the members of his family in >such terror as to make them afraid to speak to him at times. There is a >legend that when he was at work in the field; members of the family carried >him his dinner and put it on a stump where he could see it, but dared not >tell him anything about it. This story was told by a daughter, Barbara >Weimar Life, the latter part of her life many years ago." >I hesitate to mention this newspaper article because none of the >information >was documented and many inaccuracies were found. One such inaccuracy is >listing the family of Henry and Elizabeth Zickefoose Wimer in the lineage >of >Henry. Glen Huffman (Bridgewater Va.) believes they are in the line of >George Wimer. Janet Cooper in Missouri >----- Original Message ----- >From: <rcflesher@juno.com> >To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, 27 February 2000 1:39 >Subject: Re: Elizabeth Wimer b. 1831 > > > > Elizabeth's parents were Henry Wimer and Elizabeth Thompson. > > Were Henry's parents Henry? and ? > > > > Ray > > > > On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 14:20:48 -0500 "rlucas" <rlucas@neo.rr.com> writes: > > >I believe someone recently was researching the Wimer family. I have an > > >Elizabeth Wimer b. 1831 d. 1922 who married Samuel Cooper b. 1826 d. > > >1893. They were the parents of Mahala Cooper who was my great > > >grandmother. I have seen the names Phillip, George and Jacob Wimer > > >(Wymer) in early Pendleton co. Is Elizabeth related to one of them, > > >thanks. > > > Rebecca Lucas rlucas@neo.rr.com > > > > > >HEDRICK SITES DAY FISHER CONRAD WIMER ROHRBAUGH TETER > > >PHARES LOUGH COLLETT > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: > > http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Yes, that is the same family. I have some different names, but I might have nicknames for some. I have as Elizabeth Wimer and Samuel Cooper's children the following: John m. Elmira McDonald Martha m. Jim Raines Anna m. Miles Vance Mahala m. Frank Spessert Job m. Molly Smith Melvina m. Aaron Rohrbaugh Daniel m. Anna Harper Elizabeth m. Claude Wolford Adam m. Sally Siler Henrietta m. Anderson Wolford Martin m. Jane Wolford Jane m. Martin Bonner Abraham m. Jenny Bennett Mary m. Anderson Roy Samuel and Elizabeth Wimer Cooper are believed to be the first two burials in Flanagan Hill Cemetery, Red Creek WVA. Sorry I don't have any dates with those children. I got this information from my aunt who had genealogy research done by a Loretta Hinkle, Beverly WVA. I descend from Mahala Cooper and Frank Spessert, they were my ggrandparents. I have some old photos of the Cooper, Spessert, Wolford families, from the late 1800's and early 1900's. The problem is most aren't labeled. My mother would have known who they were but she passed away in 1986. Her name was Ruby Hedrick b. 1912. (Loughry was her married name) daughter of Rosa Lee Spessert and Albert Hedrick. Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: <SnowBeri@aol.com> To: <WVPENDLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 11:01 AM Subject: Re: Elizabeth Wimer > In a message dated 2/27/2000 12:26:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, > rlucas@neo.rr.com writes: > > << I believe someone recently was researching the Wimer family. I have an > Elizabeth Wimer b. 1831 d. 1922 who married Samuel Cooper b. 1826 d. 1893. > They were the parents of Mahala Cooper who was my great grandmother. I have > seen the names Phillip, George and Jacob Wimer (Wymer) in early Pendleton co. > Is Elizabeth related to one of them, thanks. >> > I have an Elizabeth WYMER and Samuel E Cooper. > Children: > Malissa Jane d 1895 m Martin Van Buren Bonner > Rosetta Mildred 1873-1952 m Anderson Wolford 1873-1943 > Abe > Mark Martin > Elizabeth 1887-1942 m Claudius Wolford 1868-1940 > > Is the same family? > > Regards, > Diane > >

Thanks, Kim. Kfairbnks@aol.com wrote: > Ed, no luck. Only found one John who married Eliza Pifer in 1829. Kim

I don't know about a website, but there is a program called Animal by Goldbug that will print maps as they looked by a period of time. It has a number of useful options including selecting sites to plot on the map and a section that includes cemeteries. Cathy Cathy@heritagelib.org

Hello, Dick - Pendleton County was formed in 1788 from parts of Augusta, Hardy and Rockingham counties. Source: Doran, Michael F. "Atlas of County Boundary Changes." (Athens, Ga: Iberian Publishing,1987),30. I hope that clarifies things- Jill winger@iquest.net 09:19 AM 2/29/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, > Maybe you can help me clear up a misunderstanding. I thought Pendleton >was originally part of Hardy Co. which broke off from Augusta Co.

Before the Civil War, Pendleton and Bath gave up part of their land to form Highland Co. During Civil War, Highland went with Va. The reason so many come from that area is that those people believed in large families and they ran out of land, so moved on. Many were Germans who always bought the boys a farm and gave the girls a dowry in money. Only the youngest son stayed, took care of old folks and got the home farm. That is what happened with the Snyders, where the old man bought the farms for his boys was over in WV. Jean

In a message dated 2/28/2000 3:34:38 PM Mountain Standard Time, rlucas@neo.rr.com writes: << Yes, that is the same family. I have some different names, but I might have nicknames for some. I have as Elizabeth Wimer and Samuel Cooper's children the following: John m. Elmira McDonald Martha m. Jim Raines Anna m. Miles Vance Mahala m. Frank Spessert Job m. Molly Smith Melvina m. Aaron Rohrbaugh Daniel m. Anna Harper Elizabeth m. Claude Wolford Adam m. Sally Siler Henrietta m. Anderson Wolford Martin m. Jane Wolford Jane m. Martin Bonner Abraham m. Jenny Bennett Mary m. Anderson Roy >> Do I understand this? There are 14 children for Elizabeth and Samuel? I have quite a bit on the Wolford lineage if anyone is interested. Also, I would love to see the Wolford photos you mentioned? I can read a jpg, bmp or nearly anything else... Regards, Diane

Thanks for that explanation. Now, I understand. dhamrick@neo.rr.com Dan Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton OH 44709 Phone and fax: 330-454-2376 ---------- >From: "Koren Fae Rawlings" <pendhist@access.mountain.net> >To: <dhamrick@neo.rr.com> >Subject: Crabbottom >Date: Mon, Feb 28, 2000, 1:07 AM > >Hi Dan, > >Pendleton County was in VA until the Civil War, when WVa was formed. >Highland County, VA, where Crabbottom [Blue Grass] is located, was >formed 1847 from part of Pendleton and part of Bath County, VA. If I >can help further, let me know. > >Koren Fae Rawlings >304-358-3261 >Pendleton Co, WVa Historical Preservation Association >pendhist@access.mountain.net >

Sorry, Dick, I think of Pendleton as having come from Highland because I'm constantly having to look back and forth between them for various ancestors who lived in just one place...but county lines kept changing around them. Thanks for the reminder that some of my ancestors records that I can't find may be in Hardy Co. To get a better understanding of it all, it might be worthwhile to further check out the histories of Highland Co. and Augusta Co. on the VAGENWEB sites. Compiled from "The History of Highland County" By Oren F. Morton, 1922 and found on the Highland Co., VA site: >Like Pendleton, Highland has Shenandoah Mountain on the east and the Allegheny Front on the west. Its geographic features are therefore very much like those of the northern county. But since its valleys are crossed by the series of saddle-ridges that separate the waters of the Potomac from those of the James, the average elevation is greater and the climate is cooler. The first line between Pendleton and Augusta followed the cross-divide and was consequently a natural boundary. Furthermore, the first settlers south of the divide were almost wholly Scotch-Irish. North of it the German element was much in the lead. But in 1796 the Pendleton line was moved southward from four to twelve miles, and so remained until 1847.< Diane

Yes, I read these things, but to some of us who are visually oriented, it's very difficult to "picture" the area and the changes that occurred everytime a boundary changed. Isn't there a website somewhere that shows the boundaries changing via maps that I could print out? Susan...trying to figure it all out, too!

Geographic Coordinates: 382953N0793223W 382601N0793801W Highland County, VA Pendelton Co. was originally part of Highland Co. http://www.lib.virginia.edu/gic/va_locator/freesearch.html is a great site for locating places, including counties, geographic features, even cemeteries in Virginia. If the name has changed, it will even search under variants. Diane

In a message dated 2/26/2000 8:19:17 AM Mountain Standard Time, MNewcome@aol.com writes: << I have a Henry Wimer b. c. 1803 and Mary Elizabeth aka Elizabeth Zickafoose b. c. 1810 (both according to 1850 Lewis Co., VA census p. 93) married 6 March 1827 in Pendleton County, VA (according to Automated Archives CD #229). The following children were enumerated with them in the 1850 census: Josiah (b. c. 1832), Caroline (b. c. 1835), Morgan (b. c. 1837), Ellenor (b. c. 1838), Cecelia (b. c. 1840), and Elihu (b. c. 1843). Their daughter Eliza (b. 22 January 1829 according to tombstone in Kincaid Cemetery, Buttermilk Rd., near Duffy in Lewis Co., WV). was enumerated in an adjacent household with her husband Lorenzo Dow Forinash. There were married 18 February 1847 (Lewis Co. Marriage Records, vol. 1, page 139). Does anyone else on this list have a connection with this family? What sources are available for Pendleton County research? I would like to find the parents for Henry Wimer and Mary Elizabeth (Zickafoose) Wimer. >> Elizabeth is a popular name. This is an Elizabeth I found. Her parents are: George Wimer Jr. 1793-1883 m. Susannah Zickefoose. Children: Nathan m 1) Ruhama Mullenax 2) Caroline Meyerhoeffer 3) Catherine Snyder Abel 1826-1917 Elizabeth 1828-1906 m George Zickefoose Peter m 1) Mary Raines 2)Sarah Hammer Jacob 1832-1907 m Mary Sponaugle George Eleanor m Andrew Cunningham Elias m 1) Jemima Lamb 2) Sarah Moyers Susannah m Noah Lamb Henry Mary m David Slagel and Jacob Crothers

In a message dated 2/27/2000 12:26:30 PM Mountain Standard Time, rlucas@neo.rr.com writes: << I believe someone recently was researching the Wimer family. I have an Elizabeth Wimer b. 1831 d. 1922 who married Samuel Cooper b. 1826 d. 1893. They were the parents of Mahala Cooper who was my great grandmother. I have seen the names Phillip, George and Jacob Wimer (Wymer) in early Pendleton co. Is Elizabeth related to one of them, thanks. >> I have an Elizabeth WYMER and Samuel E Cooper. Children: Malissa Jane d 1895 m Martin Van Buren Bonner Rosetta Mildred 1873-1952 m Anderson Wolford 1873-1943 Abe Mark Martin Elizabeth 1887-1942 m Claudius Wolford 1868-1940 Is the same family? Regards, Diane

In a message dated 2/28/2000 7:22:02 AM Mountain Standard Time, ddaly@nextek.net writes: << Maybe you can help me clear up a misunderstanding. I thought Pendleton was originally part of Hardy Co. which broke off from Augusta Co. Can you give me the real scoop with years the separation took place. >> It appears there are more than one "Crab Bottom" that once existed. When I use this source, the one that existed in Virginia appears. Maybe the WV one was so small, it got missed. http://shiva.pub.getty.edu/tgn_browser/

Ed, no luck. Only found one John who married Eliza Pifer in 1829. Kim