I am hoping that some one on this list may know where Moses Teter who was born 1774 and died about 1846 is buried.And if you would also know where Samuel Teter born 1821 and died 1855 .is buried. Both should be in this area of Pendleton Co.West Va. Thanks so much to all in advance. Debbie

I don't know the answer but I can muddy the water some more. First, do not look to Morton as a source for this as he is wrong. It appears that Morton is confusing two different Jacob Simmons - one the father of Nariel and a Jacob Simmons (age 76 in 1860 census). It's interesting to note that Jacob R. Simmons, the father of Narial is listed in the 1860 census as "Jacob Simmons of J - age 53". I've seen George Ami Simmons listed throughout the internet as the father of our "Jacob R", but until I see proof dispelling the "Jacob of J", I'm leaving this section blank. I'm trying to prove (or disprove) the theory that Morton was half-right and the Jacob listed as the father of Narial was actually the grandfather of Narial. This would account for the "Jacob of J". However, don't quote me just yet. Also, there is an error in the 1850 census. It looks like Nariel is listed as 8m and not 8 years. He was also deaf. I'm interested in what sources you have as this is also my line. My grandmother was Millie Propst, daughter of Lewis (Dice) Propst. Gene Phares >>> "Mike and Teresa Losh" <[email protected]> 04/19/03 08:13PM >>> I am looking for information on my great-great grandmother Mary Alice Simmons who was born September 18, 1878. She married Lewis Mathias "Dice" Propst on June 5, 1896. Her parents were Narial Simmons and Hannah Barclay. This is where things get confusing. I am looking for someone to give me the correct line further back. I believe next is Jacob R. Simmons and after that George Ami Simmons. However, I have found different sources giving different spouses for both of these men. Also different birth years for Jacob. Does anyone have documentation showing the correct spouses for these men for my line?? I am also looking to tie in my other ancester Sarah Simmons, daughter of Leonard Simmons, who married Philip Wimer on March 24, 1785. Any information on Leonard's parents would be helpful so I can tie the two sets of Simmons together. Thanks Teresa Wimer Losh ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

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I am looking for information on my great-great grandmother Mary Alice Simmons who was born September 18, 1878. She married Lewis Mathias "Dice" Propst on June 5, 1896. Her parents were Narial Simmons and Hannah Barclay. This is where things get confusing. I am looking for someone to give me the correct line further back. I believe next is Jacob R. Simmons and after that George Ami Simmons. However, I have found different sources giving different spouses for both of these men. Also different birth years for Jacob. Does anyone have documentation showing the correct spouses for these men for my line?? I am also looking to tie in my other ancester Sarah Simmons, daughter of Leonard Simmons, who married Philip Wimer on March 24, 1785. Any information on Leonard's parents would be helpful so I can tie the two sets of Simmons together. Thanks Teresa Wimer Losh

This website below has some really good detail maps for viewing on-line. The address below is for the area of Onego. It has Pendleton County broken into about 12 blocks. I've found it quite useful and helpful. Gene Phares http://www.topowest.com/West_Virginia/38079/o38079g4.125.png.html >>> [email protected] 04/16/03 04:35PM >>> There is a stream called Broad Run in the eastern part of the county. It is a little south and east of Brandywine and parallels county road 21/1. The county surveyor Tom Firor has some old maps and sells copies of them out of the courthouse. Bill Rexroad Hutchinson, Kansas ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

There is a stream called Broad Run in the eastern part of the county. It is a little south and east of Brandywine and parallels county road 21/1. The county surveyor Tom Firor has some old maps and sells copies of them out of the courthouse. Bill Rexroad Hutchinson, Kansas

This is what I came up with when I did a search: <A HREF="http://www.wvgs.wvnet.edu/www/statemap/statemap00.htm">Click here: WVGES STATEMAP Projects: Brandywine</A>

In a message dated 4/15/2003 10:22:22 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > Would anyone on the list know where Broad Run was in the early 1800's and if > > it still exists. Broad Run the stream? Broad Run (stream) Coordinates: Lat: 38 26 00 N  degrees minutes   Lat: 38.4333  decimal degrees Long: 079 16 00 W  degrees minutes   Long: -79.2667  decimal degrees Names: Broad Run (>preferred</A>, >C</A>,>V</A>,>N</A>) Hierarchical Position: <A HREF="http://www.getty.edu/vow/TGNFullDisplay?find=broad+run&place=&nation=&english=N&subjectid=7013961">West Virginia</A> (state) <A HREF="http://www.getty.edu/vow/TGNFullDisplay?find=broad+run&place=&nation=&english=N&subjectid=7014398">Pendleton</A> (county) <A HREF="http://www.getty.edu/vow/TGNFullDisplay?find=broad+run&place=&nation=&english=N&subjectid=2195790">Boad Run</A> (stream) Also: http://www.getty.edu/vow/TGNServlet?nation=&english=N& find=broad+run&place=&page=1 That lists Broad Runs in other counties in WV. Also Researching: Appley, Asbury, Barnum, Bauder/Bader, Bowling, Briggs, Burton, Carr, Clark, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Grim, Hardendorf, Harman, Hawk, Hayes, Henkle/Hinkle, Keith, Marcy, Pier, Sawyer, Summerfield, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Teter, Tinkham, Thompson/Thomson, Walker, Whitlam, Wilks, Wolford, Wood, Woolever. http://www.treelines.com http://www.lineage.net Regards, Diane Wolford ====Useful sites==== http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ (Hints for starting) http://communities.msn.com/AGenealogyExperience (A Genealogy Experience)

At 12:21 PM 15/04/2003, [email protected] wrote: >Would anyone on the list know where Broad Run was in the early 1800's and if >it still exists. Also, does anyone know of a site that shows names of old >streams, mountains, etc. in Pendleton County. I'm not sure that any of these is your Broad Run but checking on the USGS GNIS site (link below) for Broad Run in Virginia (which of course is where WV was in the early 1800's): with variant (no longer used) names not checked I got 19 hits with variant names checked I got 21 hits http://geonames.usgs.gov/pls/gnis/web_query.gnis_web_query_form Walt

Would anyone on the list know where Broad Run was in the early 1800's and if it still exists. Also, does anyone know of a site that shows names of old streams, mountains, etc. in Pendleton County.

Would anyone on this list be close to the Wellington Turner Cemetery in the Pendleton Co area, that would be able to help me with and would be able to take pictures of some head stones of my family in this grave site. Thank you in advance. Debbie

I will be in Harrisonburg next week. Bridgewater is nearby, so I will check with Bridgewater College to see if they have any knowledge of the church record book or George M. Smith. Bill Rexroad Hutchinson, Kansas

From the history page at the Bridgewater College web page: The Church of the Brethren, a pietistic and pacifistic Christian body with which Bridgewater has been associated since its founding, had as a part of its teachings a recognition of the supreme right of every person - regardless of race, sex, class, or clan - to the full development of his or her powers. As a result, Bridgewater became the first co-educational liberal arts college in Virginia and one of the few accredited colleges of its type in the South which was not greatly disturbed by the Supreme Court's desegregation decision of 1954. Bridgewater's heritage and institutional idealism has determined that its educational program should emphasize ethical and spiritual values. This emphasis on values can be discerned in the course offerings in religion, in the convocation programs, in an inclination to think well of people, in the stress placed on inner-directed character, and in a strong social consciousness. and, their mission statement: Mission Statement The mission of Bridgewater College is to educate and develop the whole person. Our graduates will be equipped to become leaders, living ethical, healthy, useful and fulfilling lives with a strong sense of personal accountability and civic responsibility. This mission is carried out in a learning community, with Christian values, high standards of integrity and excellence, affirming and challenging each member. http://www.bridgewater.edu/ Curt Malone

At 02:54 PM 13/04/2003, Nedra Dickman Brill wrote: >... Bridgewater College at Bridgewater, VA, which was founded by the >Church of the Brethren ... Certainly Bridgewater College has always had close the Church of the Brethren but it apparently was not officially founded by them. What the relationship between the Church and Bridgewater College has been over the years (other than close) I am uncertain of. From the Bridgewater College Web pages: Bridgewater was established in 1880 as Spring Creek Normal and Collegiate Institute by Daniel Christian Flory, an alumnus of the University of Virginia and a young progressive leader in the Church of the Brethren which was organized in Schwarzenau, Germany, in 1708 by Alexander Mack. Additions, corrections and comments are always appreciated. Walt Flory 2nd cousin, twice removed of D. C. Flory

--WebTV-Mail-23507-2278 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit In October 2000 I had the opportunity to see Vol. II of the St. Michael's records. It was at the home of David and Sherry Wilfong near Sugar Grove. Mrs. Wilfong graciously allowed me to look through the book at my leisure. The records it contains start in 1898. Mrs. Wilfong told me that the first volume of the records has disappeared and no one knows where it is. She said a man named Elmer Smith "from the university" had come through there forty or fifty years ago and borrowed vol. I in order to translate it (it was written in German). They never saw the book again. She thought Smith was from James Madison University in Harrisonburg. When I contacted the university library, they searched their records and told me they had no information whatsoever about the St. Michael's Church records. I have since been told that a copy of the translation can be found at the Library of Virginia at Richmond, but I cannot verify that. I did find a copy of the translation last year at the Central West Virginia Genealogy & History Library at Horner, West Virginia. The organization is also know as Hacker's Creek Pioneer Descendants. Horner is in Lewis County near Weston. The library has a web site at www.hackerscreek.com and they may be contacted by e-mail at [email protected] The translation of vol. I of the church records was done in 1966 by a George M. Smith. No university affiliation is given. This volume covers the period 1807-1881. The Naomi Wilfong to whom you referred is/was a relative of the David Wilfong I mentioned above. She wrote a Wilfong family history that contains some background on St. Michael's Church. She said it was first built as a log structure in 1794 and was called the Wilfong Church. It was renamed St. Michael's about 1807. The log church burned down and was rebuilt on the same site in 1925. That pretty much covers what I know about the old records of St. Michael's Church. Bill Rexroad Hutchinson, Kansas --WebTV-Mail-23507-2278 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from smtpin-2207.public.lawson.webtv.net (172.16.213.137) by storefull-2356.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.25]) by smtpin-2207.public.lawson.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 0950FFE1A for <[email protected]>; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 19:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-2ivf764.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.156.196] helo=ibm10953.mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 194X0F-00080q-00 for [email protected]; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:13:55 -0400 Message-Id: <[email protected]> X-Sender: [email protected] X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:07:20 -0400 To: [email protected] (Bill Rexroad) From: Norma & Ron <[email protected]> Subject: St Michaels Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Bill, Can you tell me more about the St Michael's records? I understood that the early records, the first book, had disappeared. I think Naiomi Wilfong has the second book, is that true? My Philip Eckard was among the original members of the church... Ron --WebTV-Mail-23507-2278--

Bill, Thank you for the most informative letter. Two suggestions on where to look for the missing George Smith and book. Bridgewater College at Bridgewater, VA, which was founded by the Church of the Brethren and is very near to James Madison. Their web site is at www.bridgewater.edu Franklin and Marshall College in Lancaster, PA, is German Lutheran and Reformed and houses most of the Pennsylvania church records. www.fandm.edu Another possibility is the University of VA. Would someone volunteer to see if this missing church book can be located? Yes, a copy is available via the Virginia State Library. This is the listing in the online catelog. There are 2 different accession numbers and it would appear that there is a microfilm of the original and also a printed copy of the translation. The microfilm should give the location of the records that were filmed. Author <http://eagle.vsla.edu/cgi-bin/bible.gateway?searchtype=author&conf=010000++++++++++++++&searcharg=St.+Michael's+Lutheran+Church+(Pendleton>St. Michael's Lutheran Church (Pendleton County, W. Va.) Title <http://eagle.vsla.edu/cgi-bin/bible.gateway?searchtype=title&conf=010000++++++++++++++&searcharg=Records%2c+1807-1881.>Records, 1807-1881. Record Ser. <http://eagle.vsla.edu/cgi-bin/bible.gateway?searchtype=title&conf=010000++++++++++++++&searcharg=Church+records+collection%3b+Lutheran.>Church records collection; Lutheran. Quantity 1 reel. Quantity 1 v. (46 p.). Format Accession 29831, microfilm. Background St. Michael's Lutheran Church, generally known as Wilfong's Church or Wildfang's Church, was organized as early as 1807, and perhaps earlier. Summary Register, 1807-1881, containing baptisms, 1807-1859, in German until ca. 1825; and communicants and confirmations, 1815-1881, in German until ca. 1828. Most of the baptismal records are entered chronologically, though some are entered randomly. All entries are recorded in English beginning in the 1830's. Available only on microfilm. (Accession 29831; Misc. reel 419) Summary The Parish Register, St. Michael's (Wildfang's) Church, 1807-1842, Pendleton County, West Virginia. This volume is a translation and transcription of the baptisms through 1842 and the communicants through 1828, with the exception of some communicants lists, 1820-1825, recorded in Accession 26625, Register, 1807-1881. Compiled by George M. Smith, 1966. Not available on microfilm. (Accession 26625) Cite As St. Michael's Lutheran Church (Pendleton County, W. Va.). [cite specific record used and dates]. Accession [cite specific accession no. used]. Church records collection, The Library of Virginia, Richmond, Va. 23219. Nedra At 11:59 AM 4/13/2003 -0500, you wrote: >--WebTV-Mail-23507-2278 >Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > >In October 2000 I had the opportunity to see Vol. II of the St. >Michael's records. It was at the home of David and Sherry Wilfong near >Sugar Grove. Mrs. Wilfong graciously allowed me to look through the >book at my leisure. The records it contains start in 1898. > >Mrs. Wilfong told me that the first volume of the records has >disappeared and no one knows where it is. She said a man named Elmer >Smith "from the university" had come through there forty or fifty years >ago and borrowed vol. I in order to translate it (it was written in >German). They never saw the book again. She thought Smith was from >James Madison University in Harrisonburg. > >When I contacted the university library, they searched their records and >told me they had no information whatsoever about the St. Michael's >Church records. I have since been told that a copy of the translation >can be found at the Library of Virginia at Richmond, but I cannot verify >that. > >I did find a copy of the translation last year at the Central West >Virginia Genealogy & History Library at Horner, West Virginia. The >organization is also know as Hacker's Creek Pioneer Descendants. Horner >is in Lewis County near Weston. The library has a web site at >www.hackerscreek.com and they may be contacted by e-mail at >[email protected] > >The translation of vol. I of the church records was done in 1966 by a >George M. Smith. No university affiliation is given. This volume >covers the period 1807-1881. > >The Naomi Wilfong to whom you referred is/was a relative of the David >Wilfong I mentioned above. She wrote a Wilfong family history that >contains some background on St. Michael's Church. She said it was first >built as a log structure in 1794 and was called the Wilfong Church. It >was renamed St. Michael's about 1807. The log church burned down and >was rebuilt on the same site in 1925. > >That pretty much covers what I know about the old records of St. >Michael's Church. > >Bill Rexroad >Hutchinson, Kansas > > >--WebTV-Mail-23507-2278 >Content-Disposition: Inline >Content-Type: Message/RFC822 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > >Received: from smtpin-2207.public.lawson.webtv.net (172.16.213.137) by > storefull-2356.public.lawson.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Sat, 12 Apr > 2003 19:13:56 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from barry.mail.mindspring.net (barry.mail.mindspring.net > [207.69.200.25]) by smtpin-2207.public.lawson.webtv.net > (WebTV_Postfix+sws) > with ESMTP id 0950FFE1A for <[email protected]>; Sat, 12 Apr 2003 > 19:13:56 -0700 (PDT) >Received: from user-2ivf764.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.156.196] > helo=ibm10953.mindspring.com) by barry.mail.mindspring.net with > esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 194X0F-00080q-00 for [email protected]; > Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:13:55 -0400 >Message-Id: <[email protected]> >X-Sender: [email protected] >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 >Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 22:07:20 -0400 >To: [email protected] (Bill Rexroad) >From: Norma & Ron <[email protected]> >Subject: St Michaels >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive > >Bill, >Can you tell me more about the St Michael's records? >I understood that the early records, the first book, had >disappeared. I think Naiomi Wilfong has the second >book, is that true? My Philip Eckard was among the >original members of the church... > >Ron > > > >--WebTV-Mail-23507-2278-- > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== >Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

Yes, I know that that is the case however the rule was ALL marriages had to be recorded in the Anglican Records regardless of faith of the parties involved. Now wether or not that was followed by the frontiersmen and traveling ministers is anyones guess. It would be interested though to check the Anglican Church records to see if perhaps this might have been followed to any degree. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't some of the early land records sometimes reflect which parish the land resided? Also, I believe that I remember reading that the original Anglican Parish Records are with the Anglican Church in England. Betty Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Fw: Marriage Records Prior to 1800 Yes, while Virginia was a colony and under the rule of the King of England, marriages were required to be recorded in the records of the Anglican Parish. The basic problem was that there were not enough Anglicans in this region to have an active Anglican Parish. The early settlers of the Shenandoah Valley were Scotch-Irish, Swiss and Germans and each brought their own religions and pastors. Perhaps someone can let us know the nearest Anglican parish to the present day Pendleton County. Nedra .

I have read that prior to 1800 the law of Virginia required that marriages be registered in the Anglican Parish of the region. I am assuming this was pre Revolutionary War period. Therefore there may be marriage information that could be obtained from UVA records or British records through the Anglican Church. Has anyone ever researched this area for marriage info? Betty Subject: [WVPENDLE] Pendleton County Marriage Bonds "We are VERY fortunate that most of the Pendleton County records have been microfilmed and are available to us. The only major missing record group is the marriage record before 1800." Nedra

At 04:47 PM 4/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I have read that prior to 1800 the law of Virginia required that marriages >be registered in the Anglican Parish of the region. I am assuming this was >pre Revolutionary War period. Therefore there may be marriage information >that could be obtained from UVA records or British records through the >Anglican Church. Has anyone ever researched this area for marriage info? >Betty Yes, while Virginia was a colony and under the rule of the King of England, marriages were required to be recorded in the records of the Anglican Parish. The basic problem was that there were not enough Anglicans in this region to have an active Anglican Parish. The early settlers of the Shenandoah Valley were Scotch-Irish, Swiss and Germans and each brought their own religions and pastors. You might check with the Virginia State Library, although the early Virginia Anglican parish records seem to have all been published. The earliest pastors in the frontier were on horseback, using homes, barns, and outdoors for their church buildings and not having a set schedule. Depending upon the religion and the person they kept private journals of their activities. Many of these have been published. Perhaps someone can let us know the nearest Anglican parish to the present day Pendleton County. Nedra Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR Regent, Portland Chapter, DAR Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

You may be advised that, in addition to that which Nedra Dickman Brill has posted below, generally speaking, most county records also are available at the West Virginia Cultural Arts Center in Charleston, WV. It's efficient because you can search more than one county at a time. The WVU center also has been commended to me. I have been to the Cultural Arts Center, and they were helpful. I have not yet been to the WVU location. Dan Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton Oh 44709-3818 Phone: 330-454-2376 Email: [email protected] ------ Forwarded Message > From: Nedra Dickman Brill <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 10:34:34 -0700 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Pendleton County Marriage Bonds > Resent-From: [email protected] > Resent-Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2003 11:56:08 -0600 > > The marriage bonds of Pendleton County that Mary Harter used for her first > book are available via microfilm through the LDS Family History Centers. > These are housed in the Archives at WV University and includes the original > bonds with signatures and consents. When Jackie Puffenberger retyped Mary's > book she included all the corrections that I made after proof-reading from > the microfilm of the originals. Generally these were mis-read names. > > The second major set of bonds are entered in a Marriage Bond book which is > housed in the County Clerk's office. This is a ledger style book from 8 > July 1843 to 20 July 1853. Mary included all of these in her 2nd book and > the original Bond Book is also available on microfilm. Mary's 2nd book also > includes many loose bonds which are not available to the public. > > We are VERY fortunate that most of the Pendleton County records have been > microfilmed and are available to us. The only major missing record group is > the marriage record before 1800. Also, during the early 1900's many loose > bonds were given to family members, etc. Mary recorded all that she could > find at the court house and I am sure was very thorough since the staff was > fully cooperating with this project. > > While the records after 1853 are available, they are ledgers arranged by > the date the info was entered and in small handwriting. There is NO > alphabetical index so it is very difficult to send someone to search for a > specific record. > > NOTE: virtually no records exist for the Civil War years when Franklin was > often occupied by military forces--both sides. During the 1860's there is a > group of Pendleton County marriages, performed in the North Fork region by > Rev. Asa Harman, that were recorded in Tucker County. Perhaps it was a > safer road to travel to a court house. > > Nedra > > Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] > Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR > Regent, Portland Chapter, DAR > Historian, Henckel Family National Association > Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] > > CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > http://www.bcgcertification.org/ > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > ------ End of Forwarded Message