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    1. [WVPENDLE] Thomas BELKNAP
    2. James H. Belknap
    3. As far as I am able to determine, Thomas BELKNAP/BELNAP was born in Pendleton/Fredrick County, VA in 1798. I know his age because he enlisted in the army in the War of 1812 in 1814 from Hampshire County. Documents list his age at enlistment as 16. He was the son of ThomasBELKNAP/BELNAP and Naomi DARE. He died in 1853 in Trace Run, Braxton, County, WV. Have obtained the death certificate and it just lists him as son of Thomas. No other information was listed. I have traced him, on the census records, all the way from 1810 to 1850. Since he died in 1853, there is no information on him in 1860/1870. All I have is a pension application filed by his widow that lists his birthplace as Pendleton or Fredrick County. I have another brief mention that says he was born "someplace in New York". If so, it was probably New Windsor, Ulster, NY the birthplace of his father. However, I digress. Many thanks for your help. Regards, James H. Belknap ---------------------------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Cochran" <[email protected]> When did he die? If it was after mid 1853 in VA or WV, his death record will contain his age and place of birth, if known by the informant. Have you located him in any censuses to check his age? Sometimes the censuses in 1860 and 1870 list county of birth; it depends on the censustaker. --Holly

    07/31/2003 06:53:16
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Rt. 220
    2. Hi Bill, I to would like to know if you can scan in that map ?

    07/31/2003 07:06:43
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area
    2. Rose Fischer
    3. Betty Root... Have you seen the BIBLE website. Punch The Bible Family into a search and it will come up....It's a great site, hope it helps... Rose

    07/31/2003 05:30:53
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Rt. 220
    2. Rose Fischer
    3. Bill... Is your 1800's map scannable? Rose

    07/31/2003 04:39:18
    1. [WVPENDLE] Rt. 220
    2. Bill Rexroad
    3. In reply to macbd1's question regarding historical info about Hwy 220: I have an old map of the area dating from the early 1800s. On it the road is called "Franklin and Monterey Turnpike." Bill Rexroad Hutchinson, Kansas

    07/31/2003 03:55:19
    1. [WVPENDLE] Tax Lists for 1850
    2. Does anyone know where I could find Tax Lists for 1850 in Pendleton Co. online? I live in Ohio and can't get there very often. ~~Eve

    07/30/2003 05:50:23
    1. RE: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)(McCullick)
    2. Jackie
    3. I'm really glad you mentioned M Daniel/M Donald. I've been searching for a missing McDonald in Barbour/Tucker/? Cnty for quite a while, and and hadn't thought of that spelling. Thanks, Jackie > -----Original Message----- > From: macbd1 [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:51 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)(McCullick) > > > I don't believe many people intentionally changed their names back in the > 1700's. At least for those from my research, various clerics were the > culprits, whether for military, courthouse, census, etc. records. > Many/most > people were illiterate and some of the clerics, especially census-takers, > weren't much better, or at least not well educated. People often didn't > even know how their name 'should' be spelled, or at least how their name > should 'look' when written on paper -- and of course the hand-writing of > various clerics also varied significantly. Entire books, or at least > chapters of books, have been written to help family researchers > of today to > interpret the mannerisms of early hand-writings. A cleric in early days > simply spelled names the way they thought they heard them being > pronounced, > or the way they had seen others write a name that sounded > similar. Collick > is apparently an English surname while of course the 'Mc' would > mean it was > Scottish or Scotch-Irish, and there weren't nearly as many > immigrants coming > directly from Scotland during the 1700's as there were Scotch-Irish from > Ulster in Northern Ireland. > > As late as the 1850's in Greene Co. IN, my ggg-f was recorded as both > McDaniel and McDonald in the 'same' courthouse land transfer document, and > he was literate based on family info and record of a letter he wrote. I > have found _M'Dan'l_ in one record and _M. Daniel_ in another so > it wouldn't > have taken much more for an 'Mc' to be dropped. The various clerics were > apparently free to spell as they wished in early times when > spelling was not > standardized. People didn't care much about spelling of words, even those > who were educated. One of our early presidents, I don't recall which one > now, once said that he couldn't really trust a man who always > spelled a word > the same, apparently meaning the man was likely too rigid in his thinking, > or maybe 'too uppity' as my grandmother used to say. > > Neil McDonald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Lucas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > > > > I just wanted to mention that Colic Mountain was named for the Collett > > family that lived on that mountain untill they moved to Randolph Co. > around > > 1800. It is interesting that Thomas Collett went by the name Thomas > Collick > > on old census's and in the naming of this mountain. I have > often wondered > > why. He is a brick wall that as far as I know, no one has cracked. > Perhaps > > Collick and Collett are interchangeable in an "Old English" way, I just > > don't know. I sure would like to figure him out. Someone once > told me that > > his name is listed on a payroll as Thomas McCollick, which adds another > > confusion!! > > Becky > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "macbd1" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:41 PM > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > > > > > > > Hello Koren-Fae and all on this list, > > > > > > I hope my map info may have helped a little. Only a short > distance from > > > Buffalo Hills Road, across Colic Mountain to its east, is Rt. 220 and > the > > > South Branch of the Potomac River which parallel BH Road. > Route 220 may > > > follow an old bridle path my ancestor or his family took back in the > > > 1740's-1750's when he/they settled the area. Can anyone tell me about > the > > > history of this road prior to it being Route 220, or about the oldest > > roads > > > of Pendleton County? > > > > > > My ancestor, Valentine McDonald (McDaniel/McDonnel were later spelling > > > variants by various clerics), was born 11 Jan 1760 on the South Branch > of > > > the Potomac River, Virginia, per his Revolutionary War pension > > application, > > > "as told to me by my parents." His father, Joseph, apparently came > there > > in > > > the 1740's-1750's, I haven't been able to learn much more about his > early > > > life except that he was likely Scotch-Irish. He moved his family from > > > Virginia when Valentine was "quite young" to old-Baltimore County, > > Maryland, > > > and thence to what was then Westmoreland County in southwestern > > Pennsylvania > > > sometime between 1773-1777, the latter date being when Valentine first > > > served in the Rev War from that county, at age 17. (They are later > found > > in > > > the Fayette Co. PA area that was developed from Westmoreland in 1783.) > > The > > > entire family migrated via flatboat down the Monongahela and > Ohio Rivers > > to > > > Mason Co. KY in the fall of 1790, with Valentine moving his family > across > > > the Ohio River into Northwest Territory in 1796. > > > > > > So, at this point, I can only imagine what the lives of my ancestral > > family > > > were like in early Virginia (West Virginia) times. I suspect > Joseph may > > > have moved his family from Virginia during the incursions of Chief > > Pontiac's > > > 'Rebellion' of 1763-64, after surviving defense of the area during the > > > French & Indian War. > > > > > > Does anyone possibly have information about a Joseph McDonald > during the > > > 1750's-1760's? I don't know his wife's name. Or, does anyone know of > > 'any' > > > McDaniel-McDonald records from those early times, as many settlers > > migrated > > > with their families? > > > > > > Thanks for any help that you may be able to provide. > > > > > > Neil McDonald > > > [email protected] > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

    07/30/2003 01:19:10
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)(McCullick)
    2. Becky
    3. I had thought about census takers spelling the name wrong. However, it is odd that the name Collick appears on land transactions, census, the name of this mountain. There were several Collett lines that lived in the area, but so far no one claims Thomas. For some reason, that I have not investigated, his DAR rev. war information shows he has a Connecticut connection. I found a Captain John Cullick who was one of the early founders of Hartford, Connecticut ( he was there in the 1600's) , his wife was a Fenwick. I don't know if he had any sons, but I would like to check on that. Descendants of Thomas all go by the name Collet(t) including my grandmother Maggie Lena Collett. So I may be totally off the wall. I wish someone connected to this Collett line would take a DNA test and then perhaps a connection could be made to some old Collett line. Anyone interested? or has it been done? Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "macbd1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:51 AM Subject: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)(McCullick) > I don't believe many people intentionally changed their names back in the > 1700's. At least for those from my research, various clerics were the > culprits, whether for military, courthouse, census, etc. records. Many/most > people were illiterate and some of the clerics, especially census-takers, > weren't much better, or at least not well educated. People often didn't > even know how their name 'should' be spelled, or at least how their name > should 'look' when written on paper -- and of course the hand-writing of > various clerics also varied significantly. Entire books, or at least > chapters of books, have been written to help family researchers of today to > interpret the mannerisms of early hand-writings. A cleric in early days > simply spelled names the way they thought they heard them being pronounced, > or the way they had seen others write a name that sounded similar. Collick > is apparently an English surname while of course the 'Mc' would mean it was > Scottish or Scotch-Irish, and there weren't nearly as many immigrants coming > directly from Scotland during the 1700's as there were Scotch-Irish from > Ulster in Northern Ireland. > > As late as the 1850's in Greene Co. IN, my ggg-f was recorded as both > McDaniel and McDonald in the 'same' courthouse land transfer document, and > he was literate based on family info and record of a letter he wrote. I > have found _M'Dan'l_ in one record and _M. Daniel_ in another so it wouldn't > have taken much more for an 'Mc' to be dropped. The various clerics were > apparently free to spell as they wished in early times when spelling was not > standardized. People didn't care much about spelling of words, even those > who were educated. One of our early presidents, I don't recall which one > now, once said that he couldn't really trust a man who always spelled a word > the same, apparently meaning the man was likely too rigid in his thinking, > or maybe 'too uppity' as my grandmother used to say. > > Neil McDonald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rebecca Lucas" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:04 PM > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > > > > I just wanted to mention that Colic Mountain was named for the Collett > > family that lived on that mountain untill they moved to Randolph Co. > around > > 1800. It is interesting that Thomas Collett went by the name Thomas > Collick > > on old census's and in the naming of this mountain. I have often wondered > > why. He is a brick wall that as far as I know, no one has cracked. > Perhaps > > Collick and Collett are interchangeable in an "Old English" way, I just > > don't know. I sure would like to figure him out. Someone once told me that > > his name is listed on a payroll as Thomas McCollick, which adds another > > confusion!! > > Becky > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "macbd1" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:41 PM > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > > > > > > > Hello Koren-Fae and all on this list, > > > > > > I hope my map info may have helped a little. Only a short distance from > > > Buffalo Hills Road, across Colic Mountain to its east, is Rt. 220 and > the > > > South Branch of the Potomac River which parallel BH Road. Route 220 may > > > follow an old bridle path my ancestor or his family took back in the > > > 1740's-1750's when he/they settled the area. Can anyone tell me about > the > > > history of this road prior to it being Route 220, or about the oldest > > roads > > > of Pendleton County? > > > > > > My ancestor, Valentine McDonald (McDaniel/McDonnel were later spelling > > > variants by various clerics), was born 11 Jan 1760 on the South Branch > of > > > the Potomac River, Virginia, per his Revolutionary War pension > > application, > > > "as told to me by my parents." His father, Joseph, apparently came > there > > in > > > the 1740's-1750's, I haven't been able to learn much more about his > early > > > life except that he was likely Scotch-Irish. He moved his family from > > > Virginia when Valentine was "quite young" to old-Baltimore County, > > Maryland, > > > and thence to what was then Westmoreland County in southwestern > > Pennsylvania > > > sometime between 1773-1777, the latter date being when Valentine first > > > served in the Rev War from that county, at age 17. (They are later > found > > in > > > the Fayette Co. PA area that was developed from Westmoreland in 1783.) > > The > > > entire family migrated via flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers > > to > > > Mason Co. KY in the fall of 1790, with Valentine moving his family > across > > > the Ohio River into Northwest Territory in 1796. > > > > > > So, at this point, I can only imagine what the lives of my ancestral > > family > > > were like in early Virginia (West Virginia) times. I suspect Joseph may > > > have moved his family from Virginia during the incursions of Chief > > Pontiac's > > > 'Rebellion' of 1763-64, after surviving defense of the area during the > > > French & Indian War. > > > > > > Does anyone possibly have information about a Joseph McDonald during the > > > 1750's-1760's? I don't know his wife's name. Or, does anyone know of > > 'any' > > > McDaniel-McDonald records from those early times, as many settlers > > migrated > > > with their families? > > > > > > Thanks for any help that you may be able to provide. > > > > > > Neil McDonald > > > [email protected] > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

    07/30/2003 07:21:49
    1. [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)(McCullick)
    2. macbd1
    3. I don't believe many people intentionally changed their names back in the 1700's. At least for those from my research, various clerics were the culprits, whether for military, courthouse, census, etc. records. Many/most people were illiterate and some of the clerics, especially census-takers, weren't much better, or at least not well educated. People often didn't even know how their name 'should' be spelled, or at least how their name should 'look' when written on paper -- and of course the hand-writing of various clerics also varied significantly. Entire books, or at least chapters of books, have been written to help family researchers of today to interpret the mannerisms of early hand-writings. A cleric in early days simply spelled names the way they thought they heard them being pronounced, or the way they had seen others write a name that sounded similar. Collick is apparently an English surname while of course the 'Mc' would mean it was Scottish or Scotch-Irish, and there weren't nearly as many immigrants coming directly from Scotland during the 1700's as there were Scotch-Irish from Ulster in Northern Ireland. As late as the 1850's in Greene Co. IN, my ggg-f was recorded as both McDaniel and McDonald in the 'same' courthouse land transfer document, and he was literate based on family info and record of a letter he wrote. I have found _M'Dan'l_ in one record and _M. Daniel_ in another so it wouldn't have taken much more for an 'Mc' to be dropped. The various clerics were apparently free to spell as they wished in early times when spelling was not standardized. People didn't care much about spelling of words, even those who were educated. One of our early presidents, I don't recall which one now, once said that he couldn't really trust a man who always spelled a word the same, apparently meaning the man was likely too rigid in his thinking, or maybe 'too uppity' as my grandmother used to say. Neil McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rebecca Lucas" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > I just wanted to mention that Colic Mountain was named for the Collett > family that lived on that mountain untill they moved to Randolph Co. around > 1800. It is interesting that Thomas Collett went by the name Thomas Collick > on old census's and in the naming of this mountain. I have often wondered > why. He is a brick wall that as far as I know, no one has cracked. Perhaps > Collick and Collett are interchangeable in an "Old English" way, I just > don't know. I sure would like to figure him out. Someone once told me that > his name is listed on a payroll as Thomas McCollick, which adds another > confusion!! > Becky > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "macbd1" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:41 PM > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > > > > Hello Koren-Fae and all on this list, > > > > I hope my map info may have helped a little. Only a short distance from > > Buffalo Hills Road, across Colic Mountain to its east, is Rt. 220 and the > > South Branch of the Potomac River which parallel BH Road. Route 220 may > > follow an old bridle path my ancestor or his family took back in the > > 1740's-1750's when he/they settled the area. Can anyone tell me about the > > history of this road prior to it being Route 220, or about the oldest > roads > > of Pendleton County? > > > > My ancestor, Valentine McDonald (McDaniel/McDonnel were later spelling > > variants by various clerics), was born 11 Jan 1760 on the South Branch of > > the Potomac River, Virginia, per his Revolutionary War pension > application, > > "as told to me by my parents." His father, Joseph, apparently came there > in > > the 1740's-1750's, I haven't been able to learn much more about his early > > life except that he was likely Scotch-Irish. He moved his family from > > Virginia when Valentine was "quite young" to old-Baltimore County, > Maryland, > > and thence to what was then Westmoreland County in southwestern > Pennsylvania > > sometime between 1773-1777, the latter date being when Valentine first > > served in the Rev War from that county, at age 17. (They are later found > in > > the Fayette Co. PA area that was developed from Westmoreland in 1783.) > The > > entire family migrated via flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers > to > > Mason Co. KY in the fall of 1790, with Valentine moving his family across > > the Ohio River into Northwest Territory in 1796. > > > > So, at this point, I can only imagine what the lives of my ancestral > family > > were like in early Virginia (West Virginia) times. I suspect Joseph may > > have moved his family from Virginia during the incursions of Chief > Pontiac's > > 'Rebellion' of 1763-64, after surviving defense of the area during the > > French & Indian War. > > > > Does anyone possibly have information about a Joseph McDonald during the > > 1750's-1760's? I don't know his wife's name. Or, does anyone know of > 'any' > > McDaniel-McDonald records from those early times, as many settlers > migrated > > with their families? > > > > Thanks for any help that you may be able to provide. > > > > Neil McDonald > > [email protected]

    07/30/2003 03:51:06
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)
    2. Rebecca Lucas
    3. I just wanted to mention that Colic Mountain was named for the Collett family that lived on that mountain untill they moved to Randolph Co. around 1800. It is interesting that Thomas Collett went by the name Thomas Collick on old census's and in the naming of this mountain. I have often wondered why. He is a brick wall that as far as I know, no one has cracked. Perhaps Collick and Collett are interchangeable in an "Old English" way, I just don't know. I sure would like to figure him out. Someone once told me that his name is listed on a payroll as Thomas McCollick, which adds another confusion!! Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "macbd1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald) > Hello Koren-Fae and all on this list, > > I hope my map info may have helped a little. Only a short distance from > Buffalo Hills Road, across Colic Mountain to its east, is Rt. 220 and the > South Branch of the Potomac River which parallel BH Road. Route 220 may > follow an old bridle path my ancestor or his family took back in the > 1740's-1750's when he/they settled the area. Can anyone tell me about the > history of this road prior to it being Route 220, or about the oldest roads > of Pendleton County? > > My ancestor, Valentine McDonald (McDaniel/McDonnel were later spelling > variants by various clerics), was born 11 Jan 1760 on the South Branch of > the Potomac River, Virginia, per his Revolutionary War pension application, > "as told to me by my parents." His father, Joseph, apparently came there in > the 1740's-1750's, I haven't been able to learn much more about his early > life except that he was likely Scotch-Irish. He moved his family from > Virginia when Valentine was "quite young" to old-Baltimore County, Maryland, > and thence to what was then Westmoreland County in southwestern Pennsylvania > sometime between 1773-1777, the latter date being when Valentine first > served in the Rev War from that county, at age 17. (They are later found in > the Fayette Co. PA area that was developed from Westmoreland in 1783.) The > entire family migrated via flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to > Mason Co. KY in the fall of 1790, with Valentine moving his family across > the Ohio River into Northwest Territory in 1796. > > So, at this point, I can only imagine what the lives of my ancestral family > were like in early Virginia (West Virginia) times. I suspect Joseph may > have moved his family from Virginia during the incursions of Chief Pontiac's > 'Rebellion' of 1763-64, after surviving defense of the area during the > French & Indian War. > > Does anyone possibly have information about a Joseph McDonald during the > 1750's-1760's? I don't know his wife's name. Or, does anyone know of 'any' > McDaniel-McDonald records from those early times, as many settlers migrated > with their families? > > Thanks for any help that you may be able to provide. > > Neil McDonald > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Koren Fae Rawlings" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:15 PM > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > > > > Karen, > > > > Yesterday at the Confederate Reunion Picnic at Richard Ruddle's home I > asked > > him, his parents and Pauline Harman about the cemetery. They told me > that > > you go, from Franklin, Rt 33 west to Buffalo Hills Road, turn right onto > > BHRd; after you pass the last house on left, start looking for cemetery on > > right, on little knoll {easier to see in fall or winter}. > > > > I don't know if this will help or not. Ms. Harman said she knew right > > where it was. She is one of the oldest members of the community, and a > > local historian. > > > > If I can be of further service, let me know. > > > > Koren-Fae > > > > > > Rev. Koren-Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 > > P.O. Box 887 > > Franklin, WVa 26807-0887 > > Order of the Bonnie Blue, Phoebe Warner Chapter > > [email protected] > > Pendleton Co. Historical Preservation > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > William J. Vance > > Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, > > 7th WVa Infantry Camp 7 > > [email protected] > > www.geocities.com/suvcwmdcp7/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Karen E. Cresap" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:02 PM > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm desperately trying to find the location and/or any info on the KERNS > > > Cemetery that's listed in the Pend Co Grave Register book from 1977. > The > > > only directions in the book list that the cemetery is located "on the > east > > > side of Buffalo Hills Road". I do believe I've searched in the right > > > general area northwest of Franklin, near Ruddle, in the Buffalo Hills > > area, > > > but I've never been able to locate the cemetery. The families buried > > there > > > are KERNS, BIBLE and SMITH. > > > > > > If anyone has any info at all, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Karen E. Cresap > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

    07/29/2003 05:04:51
    1. [WVPENDLE] Re: Buffalo Run area (McDonald)
    2. macbd1
    3. Hello Koren-Fae and all on this list, I hope my map info may have helped a little. Only a short distance from Buffalo Hills Road, across Colic Mountain to its east, is Rt. 220 and the South Branch of the Potomac River which parallel BH Road. Route 220 may follow an old bridle path my ancestor or his family took back in the 1740's-1750's when he/they settled the area. Can anyone tell me about the history of this road prior to it being Route 220, or about the oldest roads of Pendleton County? My ancestor, Valentine McDonald (McDaniel/McDonnel were later spelling variants by various clerics), was born 11 Jan 1760 on the South Branch of the Potomac River, Virginia, per his Revolutionary War pension application, "as told to me by my parents." His father, Joseph, apparently came there in the 1740's-1750's, I haven't been able to learn much more about his early life except that he was likely Scotch-Irish. He moved his family from Virginia when Valentine was "quite young" to old-Baltimore County, Maryland, and thence to what was then Westmoreland County in southwestern Pennsylvania sometime between 1773-1777, the latter date being when Valentine first served in the Rev War from that county, at age 17. (They are later found in the Fayette Co. PA area that was developed from Westmoreland in 1783.) The entire family migrated via flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to Mason Co. KY in the fall of 1790, with Valentine moving his family across the Ohio River into Northwest Territory in 1796. So, at this point, I can only imagine what the lives of my ancestral family were like in early Virginia (West Virginia) times. I suspect Joseph may have moved his family from Virginia during the incursions of Chief Pontiac's 'Rebellion' of 1763-64, after surviving defense of the area during the French & Indian War. Does anyone possibly have information about a Joseph McDonald during the 1750's-1760's? I don't know his wife's name. Or, does anyone know of 'any' McDaniel-McDonald records from those early times, as many settlers migrated with their families? Thanks for any help that you may be able to provide. Neil McDonald [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Koren Fae Rawlings" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > Karen, > > Yesterday at the Confederate Reunion Picnic at Richard Ruddle's home I asked > him, his parents and Pauline Harman about the cemetery. They told me that > you go, from Franklin, Rt 33 west to Buffalo Hills Road, turn right onto > BHRd; after you pass the last house on left, start looking for cemetery on > right, on little knoll {easier to see in fall or winter}. > > I don't know if this will help or not. Ms. Harman said she knew right > where it was. She is one of the oldest members of the community, and a > local historian. > > If I can be of further service, let me know. > > Koren-Fae > > > Rev. Koren-Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 > P.O. Box 887 > Franklin, WVa 26807-0887 > Order of the Bonnie Blue, Phoebe Warner Chapter > [email protected] > Pendleton Co. Historical Preservation > [email protected] > [email protected] > William J. Vance > Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, > 7th WVa Infantry Camp 7 > [email protected] > www.geocities.com/suvcwmdcp7/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen E. Cresap" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:02 PM > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm desperately trying to find the location and/or any info on the KERNS > > Cemetery that's listed in the Pend Co Grave Register book from 1977. The > > only directions in the book list that the cemetery is located "on the east > > side of Buffalo Hills Road". I do believe I've searched in the right > > general area northwest of Franklin, near Ruddle, in the Buffalo Hills > area, > > but I've never been able to locate the cemetery. The families buried > there > > are KERNS, BIBLE and SMITH. > > > > If anyone has any info at all, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > Karen E. Cresap > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

    07/29/2003 03:41:32
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area
    2. Koren Fae Rawlings
    3. Nedra, Pauline said it was near the Beulah Bible place, the other side of the road. Koren ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nedra Dickman Brill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > The "General Highway Map, Pendleton County, WV" produced by the WV Dept. of > Highways, Sheet 2 of 3, shows a cemetery on the east side of Buffalo Hills > Road slightly closer to Hwy 33 than halfway between Hwy 33 and the other > end of Buffalo Hills Road where it ends at Hwy 10, Reed's Creek Road. > > My family of Haiglers and Bibles lived in this approx. area as did the > daughters who got land from their fathers, the Smiths and Blands. > > Nedra > > > At 04:15 PM 7/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Karen, > > > >Yesterday at the Confederate Reunion Picnic at Richard Ruddle's home I asked > >him, his parents and Pauline Harman about the cemetery. They told me that > >you go, from Franklin, Rt 33 west to Buffalo Hills Road, turn right onto > >BHRd; after you pass the last house on left, start looking for cemetery on > >right, on little knoll {easier to see in fall or winter}. > > > >I don't know if this will help or not. Ms. Harman said she knew right > >where it was. She is one of the oldest members of the community, and a > >local historian. > > > >If I can be of further service, let me know. > > > >Koren-Fae > > > > > >Rev. Koren-Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 > >P.O. Box 887 > >Franklin, WVa 26807-0887 > >Order of the Bonnie Blue, Phoebe Warner Chapter > >[email protected] > >Pendleton Co. Historical Preservation > >[email protected] > >[email protected] > >William J. Vance > >Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, > >7th WVa Infantry Camp 7 > >[email protected] > >www.geocities.com/suvcwmdcp7/ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Karen E. Cresap" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:02 PM > >Subject: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm desperately trying to find the location and/or any info on the KERNS > > > Cemetery that's listed in the Pend Co Grave Register book from 1977. The > > > only directions in the book list that the cemetery is located "on the east > > > side of Buffalo Hills Road". I do believe I've searched in the right > > > general area northwest of Franklin, near Ruddle, in the Buffalo Hills > >area, > > > but I've never been able to locate the cemetery. The families buried > >there > > > are KERNS, BIBLE and SMITH. > > > > > > If anyone has any info at all, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Karen E. Cresap > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] > Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR > Historian, Henckel Family National Association > Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] > > CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > http://www.bcgcertification.org/ > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > >

    07/29/2003 06:25:26
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area (+ maps, aerial photos)
    2. macbd1
    3. Karen, Possibly the link to this map will help: http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=4285315&e=645201&s=50&size=l Be sure all of the characters in this link are copied, you may even need to 'type' the entire hyperlink into your browser, if clicking it doesn't work. It appears that the Ruddle Church cemetery west of Ruddle may be the one you are wanting. If not, the cemetery down Wyatt Run Road south of there may be it. Otherwise, try moving the center of the map further south to see other cemeteries to the east side of Buffalo Hills Road, and switch between 1:50000 and 1:25000 resolution. These topozone.com maps developed from US Geological Survey maps are really helpful (3" per mile scale at widest zoom, wow.) The predominant names of the runs, back roads and creeks at the first map location (near Ruddle) indicate to me that you need to be searching a little further south on Buffalo Hills Road for 'your' names....just a thought....?? You can try the map at: http://terraserver-usa.com/image.aspx?t=2&s=14&x=201&y=1338&z=17&w=1 to get aerial photos in addition to large scale maps. Btw, your CRESAP name really intrigues me, you and/or your husband have a very interesting surname history in the American colonies. Hope this helps. My first time here, regards to all. Neil McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nedra Dickman Brill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 7:13 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > The "General Highway Map, Pendleton County, WV" produced by the WV Dept. of > Highways, Sheet 2 of 3, shows a cemetery on the east side of Buffalo Hills > Road slightly closer to Hwy 33 than halfway between Hwy 33 and the other > end of Buffalo Hills Road where it ends at Hwy 10, Reed's Creek Road. > > My family of Haiglers and Bibles lived in this approx. area as did the > daughters who got land from their fathers, the Smiths and Blands. > > Nedra > > > At 04:15 PM 7/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >Karen, > > > >Yesterday at the Confederate Reunion Picnic at Richard Ruddle's home I asked > >him, his parents and Pauline Harman about the cemetery. They told me that > >you go, from Franklin, Rt 33 west to Buffalo Hills Road, turn right onto > >BHRd; after you pass the last house on left, start looking for cemetery on > >right, on little knoll {easier to see in fall or winter}. > > > >I don't know if this will help or not. Ms. Harman said she knew right > >where it was. She is one of the oldest members of the community, and a > >local historian. > > > >If I can be of further service, let me know. > > > >Koren-Fae > > > > > >Rev. Koren-Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 > >P.O. Box 887 > >Franklin, WVa 26807-0887 > >Order of the Bonnie Blue, Phoebe Warner Chapter > >[email protected] > >Pendleton Co. Historical Preservation > >[email protected] > >[email protected] > >William J. Vance > >Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, > >7th WVa Infantry Camp 7 > >[email protected] > >www.geocities.com/suvcwmdcp7/ > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Karen E. Cresap" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:02 PM > >Subject: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I'm desperately trying to find the location and/or any info on the KERNS > > > Cemetery that's listed in the Pend Co Grave Register book from 1977. The > > > only directions in the book list that the cemetery is located "on the east > > > side of Buffalo Hills Road". I do believe I've searched in the right > > > general area northwest of Franklin, near Ruddle, in the Buffalo Hills > >area, > > > but I've never been able to locate the cemetery. The families buried > >there > > > are KERNS, BIBLE and SMITH. > > > > > > If anyone has any info at all, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Karen E. Cresap > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] > Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR > Historian, Henckel Family National Association > Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] > > CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > http://www.bcgcertification.org/ > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

    07/28/2003 05:16:12
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow
    2. Charles and Madelyn Evans
    3. There are about 175 Mallow's in these two volumes but none with the name Manassas included. I have Rebecca Dice married to Abraham Bush Mallow with a daughter named Ruhama Jane Mallow born 10 Jan 1875 in Pendelton died 14 Jan 1946 married 20 Feb 1896 Isaac Henry Mallow born 27 March 1872 in Pendelton died 16 August 1965 Pendelton. Isaac's parents were George Washington and Sarah Reed Mallow, Isaac lived in Bushy Run buried Mallow Cemetery #21Timber Ridge . Isaac and Ruhama had these offspring, Preston, Margie, Lena, Owen, Elsie, Nelda G, Beulah, Verdie and Holly. Ruhmah's siblings were Sarah C, Ulysses G, Tryphena A. Etta, John S. James R. If you have this info just eliminate. I haven't been posting much for some time but I do occasionally read if a name is familiar. My family is a mess. Those Harper's and Dice plus Nelson drive me nuts. I went in DAR on my Selover side and can't for the life of me get those Harper's etc down pat. Madelyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Lesner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow Listers, Can anyone help me learn the parents of Abraham Mallow who married Pernelia Lough? I have at least two candidates Samuel Mallow and Phoebe Bible OR Isaac Mallow and wife Ann. Thank you for any help you can give. Jane ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

    07/28/2003 01:09:56
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area
    2. Nedra Dickman Brill
    3. The "General Highway Map, Pendleton County, WV" produced by the WV Dept. of Highways, Sheet 2 of 3, shows a cemetery on the east side of Buffalo Hills Road slightly closer to Hwy 33 than halfway between Hwy 33 and the other end of Buffalo Hills Road where it ends at Hwy 10, Reed's Creek Road. My family of Haiglers and Bibles lived in this approx. area as did the daughters who got land from their fathers, the Smiths and Blands. Nedra At 04:15 PM 7/28/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Karen, > >Yesterday at the Confederate Reunion Picnic at Richard Ruddle's home I asked >him, his parents and Pauline Harman about the cemetery. They told me that >you go, from Franklin, Rt 33 west to Buffalo Hills Road, turn right onto >BHRd; after you pass the last house on left, start looking for cemetery on >right, on little knoll {easier to see in fall or winter}. > >I don't know if this will help or not. Ms. Harman said she knew right >where it was. She is one of the oldest members of the community, and a >local historian. > >If I can be of further service, let me know. > >Koren-Fae > > >Rev. Koren-Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 >P.O. Box 887 >Franklin, WVa 26807-0887 >Order of the Bonnie Blue, Phoebe Warner Chapter >[email protected] >Pendleton Co. Historical Preservation >[email protected] >[email protected] >William J. Vance >Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, >7th WVa Infantry Camp 7 >[email protected] >www.geocities.com/suvcwmdcp7/ >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Karen E. Cresap" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:02 PM >Subject: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > > > > Hi all, > > > > I'm desperately trying to find the location and/or any info on the KERNS > > Cemetery that's listed in the Pend Co Grave Register book from 1977. The > > only directions in the book list that the cemetery is located "on the east > > side of Buffalo Hills Road". I do believe I've searched in the right > > general area northwest of Franklin, near Ruddle, in the Buffalo Hills >area, > > but I've never been able to locate the cemetery. The families buried >there > > are KERNS, BIBLE and SMITH. > > > > If anyone has any info at all, it would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks. > > Karen E. Cresap > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

    07/28/2003 11:13:36
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area
    2. Koren Fae Rawlings
    3. Karen, Yesterday at the Confederate Reunion Picnic at Richard Ruddle's home I asked him, his parents and Pauline Harman about the cemetery. They told me that you go, from Franklin, Rt 33 west to Buffalo Hills Road, turn right onto BHRd; after you pass the last house on left, start looking for cemetery on right, on little knoll {easier to see in fall or winter}. I don't know if this will help or not. Ms. Harman said she knew right where it was. She is one of the oldest members of the community, and a local historian. If I can be of further service, let me know. Koren-Fae Rev. Koren-Fae Rawlings 304-358-3261 P.O. Box 887 Franklin, WVa 26807-0887 Order of the Bonnie Blue, Phoebe Warner Chapter [email protected] Pendleton Co. Historical Preservation [email protected] [email protected] William J. Vance Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, 7th WVa Infantry Camp 7 [email protected] www.geocities.com/suvcwmdcp7/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen E. Cresap" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: [WVPENDLE] Kerns/Bible/Buffalo Run area > Hi all, > > I'm desperately trying to find the location and/or any info on the KERNS > Cemetery that's listed in the Pend Co Grave Register book from 1977. The > only directions in the book list that the cemetery is located "on the east > side of Buffalo Hills Road". I do believe I've searched in the right > general area northwest of Franklin, near Ruddle, in the Buffalo Hills area, > but I've never been able to locate the cemetery. The families buried there > are KERNS, BIBLE and SMITH. > > If anyone has any info at all, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. > Karen E. Cresap > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > >

    07/28/2003 10:15:57
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow
    2. Charles and Madelyn Evans
    3. Jack Ackerboon in his book on the Lauer family has Permilla Lough as the daughter of Phoebe Ann Bland and David Lough. Abraham Bush Mallow was married to Rebecca Elizabeth Dice. Abraham was the son of Ruben and Lydia Harman Mallow. Sorry other than very large print I am having a vision problem and I cannot locate Jack Ackerboom's e-mail address. The book's library of congress # is 00-132097 There are two volumes. Madelyn Selover Evans (Harper, Dice etc.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Lesner" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow Listers, Can anyone help me learn the parents of Abraham Mallow who married Pernelia Lough? I have at least two candidates Samuel Mallow and Phoebe Bible OR Isaac Mallow and wife Ann. Thank you for any help you can give. Jane ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

    07/28/2003 06:57:27
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow
    2. Vera Lewis
    3. Abraham Bush Mallow born 16 May 1842 son of Reuben Mallow and Lydia Harman. Married 12 Oct 1865 in Tucker Co. to Rebecca Elizabeth Dice. Died 19 Nov 1904. Abraham Wise Mallow son of Michael and Mary Wise Mallow. Married twice 1. Mary Catherine Judy and 2. Pheobe Waybright. Vera

    07/27/2003 03:18:05
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow
    2. Vera Lewis
    3. Just wanted to note that my Abraham might be either listed William Abraham or Abrahm William Mallow. I found notes both ways. I will have to investigate it a little more. Vera [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 7/27/2003 5:55:36 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > On the 1910 census it says he was 41 years old. The Pendleton County grave > register lists his birth as Aug. 5, 1869 and his death as May 13, 1924. > Permelia is listed as being born Nov. 7, 1875 and dying June 20, 1918--just > 17 days after the death of her infant so I presume she died from > complications of childbirth. Does any of this help? > Jane, > I have only one Abraham Mallow born 1869, but not Aug. > (The other two Abraham Mallows were born in 1841 and 1842.) > The Abraham Mallow b. May 1869 is the son of George Mallow and Sarah Reed. I > don't have a death date or know of a wife, but Abraham is the father of Harry > H Mallow (and others that I'm not aware of). Abraham had 11 siblings. We > are probably talking about two different Abrahams, but it does look like > Permelia died from most likely from infection, perhaps small internal bleeding, or > other childbirth complications. > > Affiliated families: Appley, Asbury, Ayers, Barnum, Bauder/Bader, Bowling, > Briggs, Burton, Carr, Clark, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Grim, Goodale, > Hall, Hardendorf, Harman, Harper, Hawk, Hayes, Henkle/Hinkle, Keith, Marcy, > Miller, Pier, Sawyer, Summerfield, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Teter, > Tinkham, Thompson/Thomson, Tripp, Vansant, Walker, Whitlam, Wilks/Wilkes, Wolford, > Wood, Woolever. > http://www.treelines.com > http://www.lineage.net > > Regards, > Diane Wolford > > ====Useful sites==== > http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ (Hints for starting) > http://communities.msn.com/AGenealogyExperience (A Genealogy Experience) > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

    07/27/2003 03:08:02
    1. Re: [WVPENDLE] Abraham Manassas Mallow
    2. Vera Lewis
    3. I have a William Abraham Mallow born May 10, 1869 (Pendleton Co). Married Blanch E. Benson on 4 July 1900 in Upshur County. He died 1 Oct. 1956 in Morgantown, WV. He was the son of George Washington Mallow and Sarah E. Reed Mallow. Hope this helps. Vera Lewis [email protected] wrote: > In a message dated 7/27/2003 5:55:36 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > [email protected] writes: > On the 1910 census it says he was 41 years old. The Pendleton County grave > register lists his birth as Aug. 5, 1869 and his death as May 13, 1924. > Permelia is listed as being born Nov. 7, 1875 and dying June 20, 1918--just > 17 days after the death of her infant so I presume she died from > complications of childbirth. Does any of this help? > Jane, > I have only one Abraham Mallow born 1869, but not Aug. > (The other two Abraham Mallows were born in 1841 and 1842.) > The Abraham Mallow b. May 1869 is the son of George Mallow and Sarah Reed. I > don't have a death date or know of a wife, but Abraham is the father of Harry > H Mallow (and others that I'm not aware of). Abraham had 11 siblings. We > are probably talking about two different Abrahams, but it does look like > Permelia died from most likely from infection, perhaps small internal bleeding, or > other childbirth complications. > > Affiliated families: Appley, Asbury, Ayers, Barnum, Bauder/Bader, Bowling, > Briggs, Burton, Carr, Clark, Dyer, Ecker, Finch, Flannery, Fox, Grim, Goodale, > Hall, Hardendorf, Harman, Harper, Hawk, Hayes, Henkle/Hinkle, Keith, Marcy, > Miller, Pier, Sawyer, Summerfield, Schenk, Shepard, Slocum, Strong, Teter, > Tinkham, Thompson/Thomson, Tripp, Vansant, Walker, Whitlam, Wilks/Wilkes, Wolford, > Wood, Woolever. > http://www.treelines.com > http://www.lineage.net > > Regards, > Diane Wolford > > ====Useful sites==== > http://rwguide.rootsweb.com/ (Hints for starting) > http://communities.msn.com/AGenealogyExperience (A Genealogy Experience) > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

    07/27/2003 03:04:29