Thanks Nedra and Jean for clarifying this. Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Loudin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > I understood that 2 gggg uncles on my Channell side got federal grants > in Licking Co. Ohio in early 1800s. Since they were not my direct line I > never checked it further, but a lot of Rev. veterans from Va. settled > around there. I know they were not Virginia land grants as they were in > Kentucky. > > The fact that land bought from the state of Va. was called a land grant > has led several to believe these were Rev grants by mistake as I am sure > you are aware of, Nedra. > > Jean > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

I understood that 2 gggg uncles on my Channell side got federal grants in Licking Co. Ohio in early 1800s. Since they were not my direct line I never checked it further, but a lot of Rev. veterans from Va. settled around there. I know they were not Virginia land grants as they were in Kentucky. The fact that land bought from the state of Va. was called a land grant has led several to believe these were Rev grants by mistake as I am sure you are aware of, Nedra. Jean

Sometimes the tax collector made notes as you describe. What records did you get on microfilm? Typed? The typed ones are typescripts made by the CCC during the depression. A microfilm of the original would be identical to that original. There have been a few years of the Pendleton County tax published by various individuals. Nedra At 09:02 AM 8/11/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I have gotten the films from the Family History Center but, I was wondering >if the originals have where the person went to as the ones in the Bath >Court House do. It seems that the Sheriff or whoever did the collection of >taxes, would make notes in the ledger where he had gotten information from >neighbors about the new location that the tax payer had moved to. That is >valuable in tracking people who moved to the area for only short periods of >time. The ones that I got for Bath from the FHC did not contain all the >information the originals had. >----- Original Message ----- >From: <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:42 AM >Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] 1790's & early 1800 PP Tax Lists & Maps > > > > The Mormon Church has all of those records on microfilm...also may want to > > check the surrounding counties...such Augusta and Highland.... > > > > Vivian > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== >Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

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At 09:04 AM 8/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Nedra, > >Do you have a Reuben Haigler in your lines? >I don't have the census info in front of me but, I think he was about 20-25 >in 1850. Where was he living in 1850? I do not recall this name within the descendants of William of Pendleton County. Nedra Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

Much of Pendleton/Highland County is too steep to clear, and if you tried you would not be able to get up the slope to grow anything anyway. <G> Nedra At 11:25 AM 8/12/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Try clicking on this hyperlink, or copy/paste the entire URL into your >browser window. >http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=4247558&e=642690&s=50&size=l >After the first map appears, click on the 1:25,000 'button' for a closer >look at the Shaws Fork and Ridge area. > >850 acres would have covered well over a square mile (640 acres) so you can >see that much of the Isaac Johns land must 'not' have been cleared (see the >scale at bottom of map), or it has since grown back, or possibly the Johns >acreage was an elongated area along the creek...or possibly you should move >the map to view further southwest toward the Cowpasture River to find >cleared land along Shaw's Fork. Another thought: People of early times >didn't need a great deal of cleared land to grow a little wheat, flax, maybe >some tobacco, a few fruit trees and a large vegetable garden, leaving the >timber for hunting and for the pigs to forage -- and others who rented, >squatted or were allowed to live on Johns' land didn't need much cleared >land either. Some only needed enough for a garden since they primarily >worked for the land-owner or others, or maybe worked an artisan trade of >some kind for a living. A clearing of 5-10 acres, or even 20 acres, >probably wouldn't be shown on this map. > >I know it would surely be fun to drive our 4WD along that 'road' that >follows Shaws Fork and some of the other creeks and runs -- although a >person just might get 'called down' back in there...dontcha suppose? > >Hope this helps a little. >Still looking for 'any' info for Joseph McDaniel-McDonald along the South >Branch, pre-1768. >Neil McDonald > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Susan Baldwin" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:03 PM >Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > > > > I guess that I have been lucky because all of my husbands ancestors were > > where they said they were. True, that some people died and the lands > > changed hands between the making of the map and the 1850 census. His > > ancestors have held the land since the beginning and still have some of it > > in the family. > > > > What I am looking for in the Pendleton map is the area they called Shaws > > Fork. I am interested in finding the approximate location of the land >owned > > by Isaac Johns. Suppose to have been about 850 acres. It was told to us > > that my husband's gggrandfather lived on the Johns land and that part of >it > > later was taken to make Highland Co. > > > > Have you got any idea where this is? Any help would be appreciated. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Rexroad" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:59 PM > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Map > > > > > > > Susan - > > > > > > Be careful with that old map of Highland County. I tried finding names > > > from that map (made in 1847) on the census of 1850. It didn't check > > > out. > > > > > > Bill Rexroad > > > Hutchinson, Kansas > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

At 11:59 AM 8/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >Didn't some get federal grants in Ohio? > >Jean The northern part of Ohio had land grants from Connecticut. Any Federal grants would appear in the General Land Office records that are on the Internet. Since I have no ancestors to which this applied I have not studied the particulars. Nedra Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

Yes, if they served in Virginia organizations. You would have to look up the statutes on the length of service required, etc. I have never looked into the specifics of who did and who didn't. Nedra At 11:39 AM 8/12/2003 -0400, you wrote: >So if a person fought in the Rev. War in Va. they could have gotten a grant >for land for Ohio or Kentucky, is that right? >Becky >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Nedra Dickman Brill" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:51 AM >Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > The original 13 colonies/states gave their own land grants. The Federal > > government gave grants in the other states. The Virginia Military District > > is in Ohio and grants for Virginia service were also given in Kentucky. >For > > later wars the locations kept getting farther and farther westward. War of > > 1812 had grants in Iowa and Illinois, for instance--Acts of 1850 and 1855. > > > > The Day family is not mine and I am not sure that I have anything on the > > early family. Just a smidgeon on one man who married into my Haiglers and > > his children. > > > > Nedra > > > > At 07:39 PM 8/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >Becky, > > >You may be correct that the grants were not given as a result of > > >Revolutionary War service. The grants were made by the Governor of the > > >Commonwealth of Virginia. > > >Jane > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Becky" <[email protected]> > > >To: <[email protected]> > > >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:11 PM > > >Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > > > > Maybe what I had read was that these grants were not given as a result >of > > > > Revolutionary War service. Do you know how these grants were obtained? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Becky > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "J Lesner" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:30 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > > > > > > > Becky, > > > > > Here is another grant in Hardy County. > > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > > > MULTIMEDIA Grant Survey > > > > > > > > > > GRANTEE Day, Samuel. grantee. > > > > > DATE 10 July 1790. > > > > > NOTE Location: Hardy County. > > > > > NOTE Description: 120 acres on the North Fork of the Branch, >including > > > > the > > > > > Clay Lick. > > > > > NOTE Source: Northern Neck Grants U, 1789-1790, p. 627 (Reel 300). > > > > > NOTE Recorded survey available. Northern Neck Surveys No. 2, >1788-1794, > > > > p. > > > > > 441-442 (Reel 313). > > > > > NOTE Original survey exists. > > > > > NOTE Part of the index to recorded copies of land grants issued by >the > > > > > agents of the Fairfax Proprietary between 1690 and 1781 and by the > > > > > Commonwealth between 1786 and 1874. Original and recorded surveys >are > > >also > > > > > indexed when available. The collection is housed in the Archives at >the > > > > > Library of Virginia. > > > > > OTHER FORMAT Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Grants, reels > > >288-311. > > > > > OTHER FORMAT Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Surveys, 1-6, >A-E, > > > > reels > > > > > 312-320 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Becky" <[email protected]> > > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:18 PM > > > > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe Nedra answered this question once and I wonder if she or > > > > someone > > > > > > else can help me on this. The Day family that lived in Hardy and > > > > Pendleton > > > > > > Co. Va. has been a confused one for a long time. I have the 1776 > > > > Colonial > > > > > > Census from Frederick Co. Md. showing Leonard Day age 40, his >wife > > > > > Tabitha > > > > > > age 36, and children including Ezekial age 9, Bazel age 5, Samuel >age > > > > 14, > > > > > > Sarah age 7, Susannah age 11, and Tabitha age 2. I believe this is >the > > > > > > Leonard, Ezekial and Bazel that showed up in Hardy/Pendleton co. >in > > >the > > > > > > late 1700's Samuel has been up for question. It seems probable >that > > >the > > > > > > Samuel who was in Pendleton Co. is this Samuel, however others say >he > > > > was > > > > > > born 5 yrs. earlier and has a different father. If that is the >case > > >what > > > > > > happened to the Samuel in this family? The people that show Samuel > > > > moving > > > > > to > > > > > > Ross Co. Ohio with a different age and father claim Samuel got a >Va. > > > > land > > > > > > grant (in Pendleton?) for serving in the Rev. War. I believe Nedra >on > > > > this > > > > > > list said that such land grants did not exist, is this true? >Thanks > > >for > > > > > your > > > > > > help. > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist >[email protected] > > Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR > > Historian, Henckel Family National Association > > Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] > > > > CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > > used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > > http://www.bcgcertification.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== >Genealogy without documentation is mythology!

Thanks, that was great. We will behave ourselves so that we do not get "called down." I did not know that existed. Will sure use that site again...Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "macbd1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > Try clicking on this hyperlink, or copy/paste the entire URL into your > browser window. > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=4247558&e=642690&s=50&size=l > After the first map appears, click on the 1:25,000 'button' for a closer > look at the Shaws Fork and Ridge area. > > 850 acres would have covered well over a square mile (640 acres) so you can > see that much of the Isaac Johns land must 'not' have been cleared (see the > scale at bottom of map), or it has since grown back, or possibly the Johns > acreage was an elongated area along the creek...or possibly you should move > the map to view further southwest toward the Cowpasture River to find > cleared land along Shaw's Fork. Another thought: People of early times > didn't need a great deal of cleared land to grow a little wheat, flax, maybe > some tobacco, a few fruit trees and a large vegetable garden, leaving the > timber for hunting and for the pigs to forage -- and others who rented, > squatted or were allowed to live on Johns' land didn't need much cleared > land either. Some only needed enough for a garden since they primarily > worked for the land-owner or others, or maybe worked an artisan trade of > some kind for a living. A clearing of 5-10 acres, or even 20 acres, > probably wouldn't be shown on this map. > > I know it would surely be fun to drive our 4WD along that 'road' that > follows Shaws Fork and some of the other creeks and runs -- although a > person just might get 'called down' back in there...dontcha suppose? > > Hope this helps a little. > Still looking for 'any' info for Joseph McDaniel-McDonald along the South > Branch, pre-1768. > Neil McDonald > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Baldwin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > > > > I guess that I have been lucky because all of my husbands ancestors were > > where they said they were. True, that some people died and the lands > > changed hands between the making of the map and the 1850 census. His > > ancestors have held the land since the beginning and still have some of it > > in the family. > > > > What I am looking for in the Pendleton map is the area they called Shaws > > Fork. I am interested in finding the approximate location of the land > owned > > by Isaac Johns. Suppose to have been about 850 acres. It was told to us > > that my husband's gggrandfather lived on the Johns land and that part of > it > > later was taken to make Highland Co. > > > > Have you got any idea where this is? Any help would be appreciated. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bill Rexroad" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:59 PM > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Map > > > > > > > Susan - > > > > > > Be careful with that old map of Highland County. I tried finding names > > > from that map (made in 1847) on the census of 1850. It didn't check > > > out. > > > > > > Bill Rexroad > > > Hutchinson, Kansas > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > >

Didn't some get federal grants in Ohio? Jean

I believe Ezekial is the son of Leonard Day originally of Prince George Co. Md. He moved his family to Frederick Co. Md. and fought in the Rev. War. According to SAR records, his son Samuel also fought in the war. The family moved to Hardy Co. Va. after the war and part of Pendleton was Hardy at the time (I believe that is right?) This family is on the 1776 Colonial Census from Frederick Co. Md. Ezekial Day was 9 yrs. old in 1776, thus birthdate would be 1767. Here is that census......... Frederick Co. Maryland colonial census: 1776 Colonial census Maryland DAY BAZEL , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 5 DAY ELIZABETH , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 11 in house of Petter Becraft DAY EZEKEL , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 9 DAY JOHN , Lower Potomack Hundred, Fredrick Co. Md. 8 DAY KATHARINE , Lower Potomack Hundred, Fredrick Co. Md. 71 DAY LENERD , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 40 DAY MARY , Lower Potomack Hundred, Fredrick Co. Md. 16 DAY SAMUEL , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 14 DAY SARAH , Lower Potomack Hundred, Fredrick Co. Md. 40 DAY SARAH , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 7 DAY SUSANAH , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 11 DAY TOBITHA , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 36 DAY TOBITHA , North West Hundred, Fredrick Co.Md. 2 DAY JOSHUA Bush River Lower 100, Harford Co.MD. 15 in house of Joseph Rose I also have some information on Leah Payne and I don't know if it is accurate or not. Leah Payne b. 1766 in MD, m. Ezekiel Day death_location: Macksville, Pendleton Co, WVa ? Children: Leonard, Mary Ann, Basil,Lewis, Rachel, Abigail,Tabitha, Morgan Parents: One file AFN:FQ3N-XT attributes to William Payne and Susan Clark comments: according to the one source above, the following were siblings: Devall, Leah, William, Mary, William, Anne, Penelope, Alicia, Sallie, and Benjamin Clark Payne... but I have not confirmed anywhere...in fact have seen conflicts...

So if a person fought in the Rev. War in Va. they could have gotten a grant for land for Ohio or Kentucky, is that right? Becky ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nedra Dickman Brill" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:51 AM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > The original 13 colonies/states gave their own land grants. The Federal > government gave grants in the other states. The Virginia Military District > is in Ohio and grants for Virginia service were also given in Kentucky. For > later wars the locations kept getting farther and farther westward. War of > 1812 had grants in Iowa and Illinois, for instance--Acts of 1850 and 1855. > > The Day family is not mine and I am not sure that I have anything on the > early family. Just a smidgeon on one man who married into my Haiglers and > his children. > > Nedra > > At 07:39 PM 8/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >Becky, > >You may be correct that the grants were not given as a result of > >Revolutionary War service. The grants were made by the Governor of the > >Commonwealth of Virginia. > >Jane > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Becky" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:11 PM > >Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > Maybe what I had read was that these grants were not given as a result of > > > Revolutionary War service. Do you know how these grants were obtained? > > > Thanks. > > > Becky > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "J Lesner" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > > > > Becky, > > > > Here is another grant in Hardy County. > > > > Jane > > > > > > > > MULTIMEDIA Grant Survey > > > > > > > > GRANTEE Day, Samuel. grantee. > > > > DATE 10 July 1790. > > > > NOTE Location: Hardy County. > > > > NOTE Description: 120 acres on the North Fork of the Branch, including > > > the > > > > Clay Lick. > > > > NOTE Source: Northern Neck Grants U, 1789-1790, p. 627 (Reel 300). > > > > NOTE Recorded survey available. Northern Neck Surveys No. 2, 1788-1794, > > > p. > > > > 441-442 (Reel 313). > > > > NOTE Original survey exists. > > > > NOTE Part of the index to recorded copies of land grants issued by the > > > > agents of the Fairfax Proprietary between 1690 and 1781 and by the > > > > Commonwealth between 1786 and 1874. Original and recorded surveys are > >also > > > > indexed when available. The collection is housed in the Archives at the > > > > Library of Virginia. > > > > OTHER FORMAT Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Grants, reels > >288-311. > > > > OTHER FORMAT Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Surveys, 1-6, A-E, > > > reels > > > > 312-320 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Becky" <[email protected]> > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:18 PM > > > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe Nedra answered this question once and I wonder if she or > > > someone > > > > > else can help me on this. The Day family that lived in Hardy and > > > Pendleton > > > > > Co. Va. has been a confused one for a long time. I have the 1776 > > > Colonial > > > > > Census from Frederick Co. Md. showing Leonard Day age 40, his wife > > > > Tabitha > > > > > age 36, and children including Ezekial age 9, Bazel age 5, Samuel age > > > 14, > > > > > Sarah age 7, Susannah age 11, and Tabitha age 2. I believe this is the > > > > > Leonard, Ezekial and Bazel that showed up in Hardy/Pendleton co. in > >the > > > > > late 1700's Samuel has been up for question. It seems probable that > >the > > > > > Samuel who was in Pendleton Co. is this Samuel, however others say he > > > was > > > > > born 5 yrs. earlier and has a different father. If that is the case > >what > > > > > happened to the Samuel in this family? The people that show Samuel > > > moving > > > > to > > > > > Ross Co. Ohio with a different age and father claim Samuel got a Va. > > > land > > > > > grant (in Pendleton?) for serving in the Rev. War. I believe Nedra on > > > this > > > > > list said that such land grants did not exist, is this true? Thanks > >for > > > > your > > > > > help. > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] > Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR > Historian, Henckel Family National Association > Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] > > CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, > used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. > http://www.bcgcertification.org/ > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

Try clicking on this hyperlink, or copy/paste the entire URL into your browser window. http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?z=17&n=4247558&e=642690&s=50&size=l After the first map appears, click on the 1:25,000 'button' for a closer look at the Shaws Fork and Ridge area. 850 acres would have covered well over a square mile (640 acres) so you can see that much of the Isaac Johns land must 'not' have been cleared (see the scale at bottom of map), or it has since grown back, or possibly the Johns acreage was an elongated area along the creek...or possibly you should move the map to view further southwest toward the Cowpasture River to find cleared land along Shaw's Fork. Another thought: People of early times didn't need a great deal of cleared land to grow a little wheat, flax, maybe some tobacco, a few fruit trees and a large vegetable garden, leaving the timber for hunting and for the pigs to forage -- and others who rented, squatted or were allowed to live on Johns' land didn't need much cleared land either. Some only needed enough for a garden since they primarily worked for the land-owner or others, or maybe worked an artisan trade of some kind for a living. A clearing of 5-10 acres, or even 20 acres, probably wouldn't be shown on this map. I know it would surely be fun to drive our 4WD along that 'road' that follows Shaws Fork and some of the other creeks and runs -- although a person just might get 'called down' back in there...dontcha suppose? Hope this helps a little. Still looking for 'any' info for Joseph McDaniel-McDonald along the South Branch, pre-1768. Neil McDonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Baldwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > I guess that I have been lucky because all of my husbands ancestors were > where they said they were. True, that some people died and the lands > changed hands between the making of the map and the 1850 census. His > ancestors have held the land since the beginning and still have some of it > in the family. > > What I am looking for in the Pendleton map is the area they called Shaws > Fork. I am interested in finding the approximate location of the land owned > by Isaac Johns. Suppose to have been about 850 acres. It was told to us > that my husband's gggrandfather lived on the Johns land and that part of it > later was taken to make Highland Co. > > Have you got any idea where this is? Any help would be appreciated. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Rexroad" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:59 PM > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Map > > > > Susan - > > > > Be careful with that old map of Highland County. I tried finding names > > from that map (made in 1847) on the census of 1850. It didn't check > > out. > > > > Bill Rexroad > > Hutchinson, Kansas > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! >

Thanks Steve.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven J. Zuraff" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > Shaw Fork is situated in the northeastern part of Highland County. It is > between the Cowpasture River on the west and Highland-Augusta County border > on the east. It flows southwesterly and joins the Cowpasture River at the > small town of Liberty, which is located two or three miles below Highway > 250. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Susan Baldwin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > > > > > What I am looking for in the Pendleton map is the area they called Shaws > Fork. > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > >

Nedra, Do you have a Reuben Haigler in your lines? I don't have the census info in front of me but, I think he was about 20-25 in 1850. [email protected] http://www.egroups.com/group/coil-connections Visit my Rootsweb Free Homepage http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~firebird/

I am also interested in the Day family. According to Morton, Ezekial Day married Leah Payne. Her parents are unknown. Their children were Basil, Leonard, Lewis, Mary, Rachel, Abigail, Tabitha, and Morgan. Morgan and Leonard are found in the 1850 Census of Pendleton Co. _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

The original 13 colonies/states gave their own land grants. The Federal government gave grants in the other states. The Virginia Military District is in Ohio and grants for Virginia service were also given in Kentucky. For later wars the locations kept getting farther and farther westward. War of 1812 had grants in Iowa and Illinois, for instance--Acts of 1850 and 1855. The Day family is not mine and I am not sure that I have anything on the early family. Just a smidgeon on one man who married into my Haiglers and his children. Nedra At 07:39 PM 8/11/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Becky, >You may be correct that the grants were not given as a result of >Revolutionary War service. The grants were made by the Governor of the >Commonwealth of Virginia. >Jane >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Becky" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:11 PM >Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > Maybe what I had read was that these grants were not given as a result of > > Revolutionary War service. Do you know how these grants were obtained? > > Thanks. > > Becky > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "J Lesner" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > Becky, > > > Here is another grant in Hardy County. > > > Jane > > > > > > MULTIMEDIA Grant Survey > > > > > > GRANTEE Day, Samuel. grantee. > > > DATE 10 July 1790. > > > NOTE Location: Hardy County. > > > NOTE Description: 120 acres on the North Fork of the Branch, including > > the > > > Clay Lick. > > > NOTE Source: Northern Neck Grants U, 1789-1790, p. 627 (Reel 300). > > > NOTE Recorded survey available. Northern Neck Surveys No. 2, 1788-1794, > > p. > > > 441-442 (Reel 313). > > > NOTE Original survey exists. > > > NOTE Part of the index to recorded copies of land grants issued by the > > > agents of the Fairfax Proprietary between 1690 and 1781 and by the > > > Commonwealth between 1786 and 1874. Original and recorded surveys are >also > > > indexed when available. The collection is housed in the Archives at the > > > Library of Virginia. > > > OTHER FORMAT Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Grants, reels >288-311. > > > OTHER FORMAT Available on microfilm. Northern Neck Surveys, 1-6, A-E, > > reels > > > 312-320 > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Becky" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:18 PM > > > Subject: [WVPENDLE] Day family and land grants > > > > > > > > > > I believe Nedra answered this question once and I wonder if she or > > someone > > > > else can help me on this. The Day family that lived in Hardy and > > Pendleton > > > > Co. Va. has been a confused one for a long time. I have the 1776 > > Colonial > > > > Census from Frederick Co. Md. showing Leonard Day age 40, his wife > > > Tabitha > > > > age 36, and children including Ezekial age 9, Bazel age 5, Samuel age > > 14, > > > > Sarah age 7, Susannah age 11, and Tabitha age 2. I believe this is the > > > > Leonard, Ezekial and Bazel that showed up in Hardy/Pendleton co. in >the > > > > late 1700's Samuel has been up for question. It seems probable that >the > > > > Samuel who was in Pendleton Co. is this Samuel, however others say he > > was > > > > born 5 yrs. earlier and has a different father. If that is the case >what > > > > happened to the Samuel in this family? The people that show Samuel > > moving > > > to > > > > Ross Co. Ohio with a different age and father claim Samuel got a Va. > > land > > > > grant (in Pendleton?) for serving in the Rev. War. I believe Nedra on > > this > > > > list said that such land grants did not exist, is this true? Thanks >for > > > your > > > > help. > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > > > > > > > >==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== >Genealogy without documentation is mythology! Nedra Dickman Brill, Certified Genealogist [email protected] Registrar, Oregon State Society DAR Historian, Henckel Family National Association Coordinator Pendleton County, WV, [email protected] CG is a service mark of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license after periodic evaluations by the Board. http://www.bcgcertification.org/

I have started a myfamily.com website on the Mallow family. Interested Mallow researchers email me at [email protected] for an invite. Happy Researching, Vera Lewis

I guess that I have been lucky because all of my husbands ancestors were where they said they were. True, that some people died and the lands changed hands between the making of the map and the 1850 census. His ancestors have held the land since the beginning and still have some of it in the family. What I am looking for in the Pendleton map is the area they called Shaws Fork. I am interested in finding the approximate location of the land owned by Isaac Johns. Suppose to have been about 850 acres. It was told to us that my husband's gggrandfather lived on the Johns land and that part of it later was taken to make Highland Co. Have you got any idea where this is? Any help would be appreciated. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Rexroad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]ootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: [WVPENDLE] Map > Susan - > > Be careful with that old map of Highland County. I tried finding names > from that map (made in 1847) on the census of 1850. It didn't check > out. > > Bill Rexroad > Hutchinson, Kansas > > > ==== WVPENDLE Mailing List ==== > Genealogy without documentation is mythology! > >

Shaw Fork is situated in the northeastern part of Highland County. It is between the Cowpasture River on the west and Highland-Augusta County border on the east. It flows southwesterly and joins the Cowpasture River at the small town of Liberty, which is located two or three miles below Highway 250. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Baldwin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [WVPENDLE] Map > What I am looking for in the Pendleton map is the area they called Shaws Fork.