This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Clover, Creamer/Cramer, Gray/Grey, Shepherd Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/FEC.2ACE/493.495.497.496.503.556.2 Message Board Post: I am descended from George Cramer/Creamer and Barbara Clover. Do you have anything else on him or his children, or Clover family? GINNY 2 vmartinez5946@aol.com