> I have not been able to track down just where the surnames of Vance and Jarvis originated Don't worry about it Ed. It came from subsequent posts. Folks responded to the Humphreys, adding additional surnames (I think Humphreys marrying Vance etc.) and folks like me, with a stray 'Vance" surname jumped in hoping to find links. No one wants to miss an opportunity to find family (grin). Crystal Crystal Crystal A. Bingham, MSOT, OTR Manhattan, KS Vizslas: Denali Gold & Peaches 'n Cream; Cats Bojangles & Nuisance Kitty To understand the living one must commune with the dead.