Some information on Hudson/Pitzer. Summers County Marriage Book; 8Aug1882 - John T Hudson, 22 , born Monroe Co, son of John C and Isabell J ___ Hudson: Ann Eliza Pitzer, born Monroe Co (no age listed), daughter of Robert H and Lilly B. Pitzer. Married by James M. Lucas.. Note: Monroe Census 1860 # 515; Census 1870, Forest Hills, # 272. I had John Tartan Hudson's death date incorrect. It was 20nov1926. I had death and Marriage the same. The marriage for Robert H Pitzer and Lilly Belle Frey is listed in the Marriage Book, however no documentation could be found by me in the Court House. I was ask what the Number 5, by Robert H Pitzer's name was. It is the Fifth generation in my Pitzer Family File. Robert-George-Carey-John-Ulrich Pitzer. How does; Ote O Hudson (1876-1922) who married Ada Pitzer (16Jun1883-1978) fit into the Hudson Family? Mabe in MD

Phyllis, How excited I am to hear from you. My grandfather was Henry Guy Hudson and lived in Marie, WV with his brother Glen. I know about the cemetery you spoke about and have all the Hudson names from it, (I guess). Grandpa died in 1976 and the last time I was there was a few years before that. I remember looking out over some big beautiful valley from his yard. He did have indoor plumbing (a water pump inside) but the "facilities" were down a path outdoors. I did know that an Emmett Shanks married my great aunt Jeanie Hudson. Your Mattie Virginia must be the same one. She did have a sister named Chessie. The only information I have about John T. and Anna Eliza Hudson are their list of 15 children. I did find out some stuff about Robert H. Pitzer and his wife Lily Belle Frey and some children from his 2nd marriage. Do you have a Summers Cty. Marriage book that would list the marriage of John Tartan Hudson to Anna Eliza Pitzer? Do you know if her mother was Lily Bell and how did she die? Do you know if New Hope Methodist Church has any records about the people buried in their cemetery? I would love to have any information (and source notes) that you may have, if it is not to much trouble. I also have pictures of Henry and Glen Hudson if you are interested I could send them by snail mail. Hope to hear from you soon. Skoney Did you know Jesus prayed for His disciples? See John 17:6. Are you one of His?

Wrong person. I am the one who sent you the map of Lawrence County of the Ohio survey. -Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Kenney <patrickkenney@uswest.net> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: RE: [WVMONROE] Indian Creek, Greenbrier County, VA > Mary, > can you give me the information I need to locate the book? > thanks, > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Marti [mailto:mmarti@ktis.net] > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 4:44 PM > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Indian Creek, Greenbrier County, VA > > > Patrick: I'm sorry I no longer have the book. I borrowed it for a couple of > weeks. You can try and get it through your library. I went through and wrote > down what pertained to me so I don't have notes on any names you would be > interested in. If you are interested I'll look up the author for you. Let me > know. > Sincerely, > Mary L. Marti > > ---------- > > Mary, > > thank you very much my "Lewis" family also lived in Monroe County shortly > > after 1800... > > if you can scan or copy me the "Lewis" land grants at your convenience > that > > would be wonderful... > > Best Regards, > > Patrick > > > > Patrick Kenney > > 2323 W. Dunlap Ave. #156 > > Phoenix, Arizona. 85021 > > > > 602-678-6676 > > patrickkenney@uswest.net > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mary Marti [mailto:mmarti@ktis.net] > > Sent: Friday, July 10, 2893 4:44 PM > > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Indian Creek, Greenbrier County, VA > > > > > > Genealogists are loveable, > > Dear Patrick: My name is Mary L. Marti I live in Fulton,Mo. I borrowed a > > book from the inter library loan here titled The History Of Monroe County. > > It had alot of land grants in it and several on Indian Creek. I think, > don't > > quote me, that it also had some maps in it. I found alot of My clark > family > > in it. If you need more information I can probably pull it up on prior > > messages I have received. Good luck, > > Mary L. Marti > > > > ---------- > > > Does anybody know the modern day location of the Indian Creek that was > > > located in Greenbrier County before 1800? > > > In addition, General Samuel Lewis owned 1000's of acres of land along > said > > > Indian Creek as well as a couple other Lewis's, I am trying to either > > locate > > > a plat map for pre-1800 Greenbrier County or create a facsimile of one > for > > > at least the area along Indian Creek that ran through General Andrew > > Lewis's > > > property... > > > > > > thanks in advance, > > > > > > Patrick > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Hello to all, Just wondering in the Hudson, would anyone have a Creed P. Hudson? Sandy in Ohio

I'm trying to find the parents of Rubin/Reuben Raines who was born 1822 in Monroe County. He left VA/WV before 1845 and never returned. I believe Robert R. Raines who married Elizabeth Caneda was his brother or at least closely related. Does anyone have infomation about the Rains of Monroe County and in particular these two? Thank You, penny broeg

Instead of buying the book by Oren Morton, go to your local library and have them order it via interlibrary loan. I did that several months ago at my local library in Thousand Oaks, CA. The special request cost me 50 cents. They ordered it from a library in Sacramento, CA, and I received it in about 2 weeks. I had the use of it for an entire month, then it was returned. Interlibrary loan has saved me a lot of money, not just on Morton's book about Monroe County, but on a lot of other books I've needed for my genealogy research.

In a message dated 08/13/2000 1:01:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WVMONROE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << A. That is all I know about the John HUDSON. Any other information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance >> Hi, Another bit of info: A son of Chessie Hudson is married to my cousin. They live in Maple Fork. They have pictures of John Hudson and Isabella Tolbert hanging on their wall. I took a picture of them. I could send you a copy of it to you if you are interested. Phyllis

In a message dated 08/13/2000 1:01:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, WVMONROE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << could you look up the name Hudson in the "History of Monroe County, West Virginia"? >> Hi, There is no biography on the Hudson family in the book. There is a J C Hudson listed as a Confederate soldier in the Civil War who was a member of Thurmonds Rangers. My gr gr grandfather was also a member of that group. They were home guards who protected the families in the area. I am familiar with the Hudson family a little as well as the Pitzer family. I am from WVa, and still own property there. I am going back again next week. On Little Stony Creek, which is off Route 1, War Ridge Road, down in the hollow (holler, as we refer to it) was the "Old Pitzer Place". Some of my family lived in it after them. It was a log house as I remember it. It set on the left hand side of the road at the foot of the hill going down into the holler. I remember going there when my Uncle Bud and Aunt Flora lived there. They were making cane syrup. They had a big vat in the middle with a paddle being pulled around the vat by a donkey. The Hudson family lived at Marie. I believe they had 16 kids. Marie is just up the road from the Pitzer Place. You go past the Pitzer house (which is no longer standing) and follow the road up the other side of the hill and out a ways. That is Marie. My great grandmother, Maggie Shanks Walters, had a son, Emmett Shanks, who married Mattie Virginia Hudson, born 1896, died 1981. Virginia had a sister, Chessie Hudson. I may have some more info on the Hudson's somewhere. A number of the Hudson family is buried at the New Hope Methodist Church at Marie. I have a Monroe and Summers County Cemetery books if you need any addidtional info. Phyllis

I have the Monroe County history by Oren Morton. He's not know to be historically accurate, but can give us a hint at the truth. What was the question? I'll see if I can find it.

Portions of current Allegheny County were also part of Monroe County.

I rather sure that it is not the same Lewis family, unless this John W. Lewis descended thorugh siblings of the Augusta County John Lewis, head of the Lewis clan. It was the son of the second John who established Sweet Springs resort. It's interesting to me, however, that the property of the John W. Lewis, about 2,000 acres in Allegheny County) was very near the property owned by William Lewis in Monroe County. I've seen references, from census records I believe, in which John W. is listed as having been born in both Pennsylvania and Maryland. I haven't looked at the dates, but maybe he was born in just one place (duh!), but that the place had been in both states at different times. The Mason-Dixon survey was performed to settle conflict (sometimes armed) between Maryland and Pennsylvania over disputed territory. Maybe my John W. actually was born in both Pa. and Md. I'll have to follow up on that.

In a message dated 00-08-11 09:55:27 EDT, you write: << patrickkenney@uswest.net >> The part of Allegheny County in which my Lewis family lived had been in Monroe County. The marriage record that she send in the other e-mail is the record of this John and wife Elizabeth. I have a copy of the note that Elizabeth's father wrote asking the clerk to grant a marriage license for her to John. Her parents were Peter Harman and Betsy Mann. I have found links for the Harman line, but have not established who Betsy Mann's parents were yet, although I have my suspicions. Here is what I have on John W. Lewis and his family. I believe he is definitely not an immediate member of the John, Charles, and William Lewis family. it was William Lewis who owned Sweet Springs resort. (I descend from Dewey Johnston.) Descendants of John W. Lewis Generation No. 1 1. JOHN W.1 LEWIS was born Abt. 1787, and died Bef. October 1869 in Allegheny Co., Va.. He married ELIZABETH HARMON March 06, 1820 in Monroe Co., Va., daughter of PETER HARMAN and BETSY MANN. She was born Abt. 1797 in Virginia, and died Aft. 1870. Children of JOHN LEWIS and ELIZABETH HARMON are: i. WILLIAM J. LEWIS, b. Abt. 1822. 2. ii. JOHN W. LEWIS, b. Abt. 1826. 3. iii. PETER E. LEWIS, b. Abt. 1827. iv. SUSANNA LEWIS, b. Abt. 1827. v. ELIZABETH LEWIS, b. Abt. 1833, Allegheny Co, VA; m. JAMES A. HANNON, April 05, 1855, Covington, VA; b. Abt. 1827, Allegheny Co, VA. vi. ELIJA LEWIS, b. Abt. 1835. 4. vii. CATHERINE LEWIS, b. Abt. 1838, Allegheny Co, VA. viii. ISABELL (BARBARA) LEWIS, b. Abt. 1840; m. ROBERT R. FURY, May 24, 1861; b. Abt. 1840, Monroe Co., Va.. ix. SARAH LEWIS, b. Abt. 1842. x. HENRY C. LEWIS, b. Abt. 1845. xi. THEODORE F. LEWIS, b. Abt. 1845. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN W. LEWIS (JOHN W.) was born Abt. 1826. He married MAHALA HALE. She was born Abt. 1844 in Va. Child of JOHN LEWIS and MAHALA HALE is: i. JOHN J. LEWIS, b. Abt. 1860. 3. PETER E. LEWIS (JOHN W.) was born Abt. 1827. Children of PETER E. LEWIS are: i. MIRANDA LEWIS, b. 1849. ii. JOSEPHINE LEWIS, b. 1851. iii. MARY J. LEWIS, b. 1852. iv. JOHN D. LEWIS, b. 1855. v. GEORGE W. LEWIS, b. 1857. vi. HARRIET LEWIS, b. 1859. vii. ISAAH J. LEWIS, b. 1863. viii. JAMES A. LEWIS, b. 1865. 4. CATHERINE LEWIS (JOHN W.) was born Abt. 1838 in Allegheny Co, VA. She married GEORGE HUFFMAN November 14, 1856 in Allegheny Co, VA, son of SOLOMAN HUFFMAN and SUSANNAH CARY. He was born Abt. 1832 in Greenbrier Co., VA (WV)?. Children of CATHERINE LEWIS and GEORGE HUFFMAN are: i. SALLY HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1858, Chestnut Mt., Allegheny Co., Virginia. ii. RILEY HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1862, Virginia. iii. ELIZABETH SUSAN HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1864, Virginia. 5. iv. KATIE HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1866; d. 1959, Bluefield, WV. v. ANNIE HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1869, Virginia; d. Aft. December 11, 1940; m. ROY ALBERT. vi. MARY ELLEN HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1871; d. Aft. December 11, 1940; m. GEORGE MURPHY. 6. vii. VIRGINIA "JENNIE" A. HUFFMAN, b. July 21, 1872, near White Sulphur Springs, WV or Allegheny Co., VA; d. June 03, 1955, Libby, MT. 7. viii. SARAH HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1873, Allegheny Co, VA???; d. Bef. March 03, 1906, McDowell Co., WV. ix. SAMPSON HUFFMAN, b. Abt. 1877, WV, probably Greenbrier County; d. 1960; m. (1) VINIE HUFFMAN; m. (2) ??? HUFFMAN. x. EMMA HUFFMAN, b. July 1879, WV, probably Greenbrier County. Generation No. 3 5. KATIE HUFFMAN (CATHERINE LEWIS, JOHN W.) was born Abt. 1866, and died 1959 in Bluefield, WV. She married CALVIN SIZEMORE 1888 in White Sulphur Springs, WV. Child of KATIE HUFFMAN and CALVIN SIZEMORE is: i. JENNY SIZEMORE. 6. VIRGINIA "JENNIE" A. HUFFMAN (CATHERINE LEWIS, JOHN W.) was born July 21, 1872 in near White Sulphur Springs, WV or Allegheny Co., VA, and died June 03, 1955 in Libby, MT. She married JOHN FRANKLIN HALL January 29, 1896 in Hoke Home, Covington, VA. Children of VIRGINIA HUFFMAN and JOHN HALL are: i. CLARA P. HALL. ii. NORA B. HALL. iii. CLAUDE HALL. iv. MARK HANER HALL. v. SEIBERT FRANKLIN HALL. vi. NANIE LILLIAN HALL. vii. EDNA CATHERINE HALL. viii. CHESTER ARTHUR HALL. ix. GENEVIEVE HALL. 7. SARAH HUFFMAN (CATHERINE LEWIS, JOHN W.) was born Abt. 1873 in Allegheny Co, VA???, and died Bef. March 03, 1906 in McDowell Co., WV. She married WILLIAM THOMAS JOHNSTON July 05, 1895 in McDowell Co., WV, son of JAMES JOHNSTON and SARAH J.. He was born August 20, 1873 in Giles Co., VA, and died August 14, 1924 in Near Raphine, but in Augusta County, Va.. Marriage Notes for SARAH HUFFMAN and WILLIAM JOHNSTON: Minister: Charles R. Brown, ME Church South at Goins Bottom or Goins Brothers Children of SARAH HUFFMAN and WILLIAM JOHNSTON are: 8. i. DEWEY WILLIAM JOHNSTON, b. September 26, 1897, Welch, McDowell Co., WV; d. June 16, 1925, Blue Sulphur Springs, Greenbrier Co., WV. 9. ii. ROSCOE ARNOLD JOHNSTON, b. August 30, 1900, Allegheny Co, VA; d. December 17, 1966, Charleston, SC. Generation No. 4 8. DEWEY WILLIAM JOHNSTON (SARAH HUFFMAN, CATHERINE LEWIS, JOHN W.) was born September 26, 1897 in Welch, McDowell Co., WV, and died June 16, 1925 in Blue Sulphur Springs, Greenbrier Co., WV. He married ETHEL GERTRUDE LOWANCE April 02, 1921 in Lewisburg, WV, daughter of JOHN LOWANCE and MARY SHAFER. She was born August 21, 1898 in Richlands, Greenbrier Co., WV, and died June 19, 1984 in Fairlea, Greenbrier Co., WV. Children of DEWEY JOHNSTON and ETHEL LOWANCE are: 10. i. WILLIAM HENRY JOHNSTON, b. January 24, 1922, Blue Sulphur Springs, Greenbrier Co., WV; d. August 10, 1986, Princeton, Mercer Co., WV. 11. ii. JOHN THOMAS JOHNSTON, b. March 29, 1924, Blue Sulphur Springs, Greenbrier Co., WV; d. March 13, 1979, Clendenin, Kanawha Co., WV. 9. ROSCOE ARNOLD JOHNSTON (SARAH HUFFMAN, CATHERINE LEWIS, JOHN W.) was born August 30, 1900 in Allegheny Co, VA, and died December 17, 1966 in Charleston, SC. He married LILLIAN GRACE PALMER July 26, 1922 in Allegheny Co, VA. She was born Abt. 1909 in Raleigh Co., WV. Children of ROSCOE JOHNSTON and LILLIAN PALMER are: 12. i. HOWARD ARNOLD JOHNSTON, b. September 24, 1923. ii. ALTHEA JOHNSTON. iii. HELEN JOHNSTON.

In a message dated 8/13/00 9:00:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NANNIE2011@aol.com writes: << ---------- >> The author is Judge Miller and you can buy the book at the Hinton Library. I think it was 30 >> Sorry I was thinking of the History of Summers County. Had that on my mind. I am trying to get my hands on a Summers County History 1984 out of print. I am willing to pay 100 for a copy if anyone knows where I can get one please let me know

In a message dated 8/12/00 8:45:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mmarti@ktis.net writes: << Patrick: I will try to locate the information I wrote down out of the book. I don't remember the author the book was The history of Monroe County, Va. If I find the author will forward it to you.Genealogists are loveable, Mary L. Marti ---------- >> The author is Judge Miller and you can buy the book at the Hinton Library. I think it was 30

The History of Monroe County, West Virginia by Oren F. Morton: This book was republished in 1998 jointly by the Historical Society of Monroe County and The Historical Society of Greenbrier County, West Virginia. I am sure that if you contact either of them, they still have copies for sale. Happy Hunting, Va. in Va.

Does anyone know more about Charles HOWARD who married Agnes LEWIS, d/o John? He was taxed in Botetourt/Greenbrier Co. 1774-1784, on Sinking Spring Creek. In 1785 he's found on a petition in Harrodsburg, Ky. I believe Charles was brother of Ignatius HOWARD who died in 1774 in Greenbrier (Monroe) Co. Corinne Houston, TX ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Dear Phyllis, I noticed a message you addressed to Phillip about a history book. If it's not too much trouble, could you look up the name Hudson in the "History of Monroe County, West Virginia"? I have very little information about my gg-grandfather John Hudson except that he was born in Bedford Cty., VA. This is most of the information I have: Henry Guy Hudson (b. 29 Jan 1903 Marie, Monroe Cty. and d. Monroe Cty. WV) & Emma Mae Prather (my grandparents) John Tartan HUDSON (b. 1861 Summers Cty.) & Anna Eliza PITZER (b. 1870 Monroe Cty., WV; d. Monroe Cty.) John HUDSON (b. Bedford Cty., VA; d. 1926 Monroe Cty., WV) & Isabel (or Jane) TALBERT (d. Monroe Cty., WV) I did find Pitzer and her father in the 1870 Fed. Census for Monroe Cty. That was the year she was born. In the 1880 Census, her father Robert PITZER was listed but no Anna. She was married in 1882 (12 years old!) but must have lived elsewhere. In the 1880 Census, I found John with son John T. (among others). All but his last three of his 9 children, were born in VA. That is all I know about the John HUDSON. Any other information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance Judi Ann

it appears that alleghany county was created mostly out of botetout county 1821/2 -----Original Message----- From: WHJPSEA@aol.com [mailto:WHJPSEA@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2000 4:50 AM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVMONROE] RE: Lewis For those interested in the Lewis family, I've looked for years for a connection to another John Lewis, who lived in Allegheny County, Va., very near the Lewis property in Monroe County. This John (W., I think) Lewis owned about 2,000 acres in Allegheny County that bordered on Greenbrier County. He was born approximately 1787 and died about 1869. He was married to Elizabeth Harman. I've seen references to his having been born in both Pennsylvania and Maryland. Any help with this Lewis family would be appreciated. Bill Johnson Harrisburg, PA

The Lewis family that you've been discussing, is this the same Lewis family that owned for a time the Sweet Springs health resort in Monroe County?

John LEWIS M.Elizabeth HARMON Marriage: 15 Sep 1821 Monroe, Virginia