Thanks Maxine, my first working assumption is that Elizabeth was also from the Monroe Co. Aldersons. I'll let you know what I turn up. But the Ellis information from the internet must be in error. I can't believe that James Ellis lived to be 107 y/o and didn't marry until he was 61. Was there by chance any documentation or source material? David -----Original Message----- From: Maxine Ryan [mailto:ellis@triton.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2000 2:25 PM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVMONROE] ALDERSON/ELLIS David, I found info. on the internet showing JAMES ELLIS b.1740 d. abt. 1847, married CELIA WOODSIDER on July 15, 1801, in Monroe Co., Va. They were the parents of ELIHU ELLIS, who married ELIZABETH ALDERSON. They were married Feb. 28, 1822, in Wayne Co., Indiana. The names of ALFRED & CHISM are found as names in all the generations. Hope this will lead me to further info. I am going to purchase the book that has ELLIS info. for WVA. Maxine

David, I found info. on the internet showing JAMES ELLIS b.1740 d. abt. 1847, married CELIA WOODSIDER on July 15, 1801, in Monroe Co., Va. They were the parents of ELIHU ELLIS, who married ELIZABETH ALDERSON. They were married Feb. 28, 1822, in Wayne Co., Indiana. The names of ALFRED & CHISM are found as names in all the generations. Hope this will lead me to further info. I am going to purchase the book that has ELLIS info. for WVA. Maxine

Thanks for the response.. My Robert is the son of Jeptha Massey/Massie and Mary Sowards. He married Mary Phillips, daughter of James Phillips and Elizabeth Lewis. My line continues thru their son Moses to William S..etc I'm always interested in finding this Jep's parents. Dianna SWALNUT934@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 09/05/2000 9:11:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > dkewald@netzero.net writes: > > << I am also interested in any of the Massie/Sowards information! > I descend from Jeptha Massey/Massie and Mary Sowards through > their son, Robert. > Dianna Kemp Ewald >> > > I have a Robert Massie/Massey s/o Jeptha E. Massie III, that married a Susan > M. Wickline in Gallia Co, OH, is this the Robert you are speaking of? They > had 6 children that we know of. > > Margureitte > Wickline research _____NetZero Free Internet Access and Email______ http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html

Maxine, Do you have any indication that Elihu Ellis is related to the Monroe Co. Ellis family? I am familiar with the marriage of Elizabeth and Elihu, but have been unable to determine her parentage either. There was a Mary Alderson (b. 1813) who married Andrew Ellis in Monroe Co. in 1834. Perhaps if there is indeed an Ellis connection it would help identify the Alderson line she is from. David ------------------ David Fridley San Francisco, CA david@fridley.net Alderson Web: www.fridley.net -----Original Message----- From: Maxine Ryan [mailto:ellis@triton.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 11:18 AM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVMONROE] ALDERSON FAMILY Looking for any info. on ELIZABETH ALDERSON. She married ELIHU ELLIS in In./1822. The In. 1850 census shows them living in Wabash Co. There is a JULIA ANN ALDERSON, age 32, born Va., also listed with the family. Their son, JOHN ELLIS is my g grandfather. Looking for any info. that might be out there. Maxine Ellis Ryan ellis@triton.net

Looking for any info. on ELIZABETH ALDERSON. She married ELIHU ELLIS in In./1822. The In. 1850 census shows them living in Wabash Co. There is a JULIA ANN ALDERSON, age 32, born Va., also listed with the family. Their son, JOHN ELLIS is my g grandfather. Looking for any info. that might be out there. Maxine Ellis Ryan ellis@triton.net

I have information on the Wickline family as far as where the Lillys married into the Wickline. My Luna Lilly married "Lonnie" Wickline. Sandy > -----Original Message----- > From: Mary Marti [SMTP:mmarti@ktis.net] > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:52 PM > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Massie/Sowards > > Dear Patrick: I picked up on your information needed for Wickline. I have > a Rachel Wickline who married into my Lowe line, where and when I'm not > sure I would have to look it up on my paf. If you need any information on > this let me know,. Good luck. > Sincerely, > Mary L. Marti > > ---------- > > Yes, > > if you have their info, I would like it... > > I have multiple Sowards, Wickline & Massie/Massey connections > > Patrick > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: SWALNUT934@aol.com [mailto:SWALNUT934@aol.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 7:32 AM > > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Massie/Sowards > > > > > > In a message dated 09/05/2000 9:11:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > > dkewald@netzero.net writes: > > > > << I am also interested in any of the Massie/Sowards information! > > I descend from Jeptha Massey/Massie and Mary Sowards through > > their son, Robert. > > Dianna Kemp Ewald >> > > > > I have a Robert Massie/Massey s/o Jeptha E. Massie III, that married a > > Susan > > M. Wickline in Gallia Co, OH, is this the Robert you are speaking of? > They > > had 6 children that we know of. > > > > Margureitte > > Wickline research > > > > > > >

Yes, if you have their info, I would like it... I have multiple Sowards, Wickline & Massie/Massey connections Patrick -----Original Message----- From: SWALNUT934@aol.com [mailto:SWALNUT934@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 7:32 AM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Massie/Sowards In a message dated 09/05/2000 9:11:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dkewald@netzero.net writes: << I am also interested in any of the Massie/Sowards information! I descend from Jeptha Massey/Massie and Mary Sowards through their son, Robert. Dianna Kemp Ewald >> I have a Robert Massie/Massey s/o Jeptha E. Massie III, that married a Susan M. Wickline in Gallia Co, OH, is this the Robert you are speaking of? They had 6 children that we know of. Margureitte Wickline research

Mary , I too have data on Racel Wickline & Thomas Lowe. Where do you tie into the Lowe Family? Margureitte Wickline Research

I am also interested in any of the Massie/Sowards information! I descend from Jeptha Massey/Massie and Mary Sowards through their son, Robert. Dianna Kemp Ewald Patrick Kenney wrote: > I am interested in the Massie/Sowards Information if anybody has any... > thanks in advance, > Patrick Kenney > Phoenix, Arizona. > > -----Original Message----- > From: SandraG627@aol.com [mailto:SandraG627@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:59 AM > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVMONROE] Re: Massie/Meadows/Gore > > In a message dated 9/4/00 7:00:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Suttafran > writes: > > Jonathan Massie Compact Disc #11 Pin #967733 Sex: M > > ----------- > > Event(s): > > Birth: 13 Mar 1787 Place: Monroe Co, VA > > Death: 19 Jul 1876 Place: Lawrence, OH > > ----------- > > Parents: > > Father: Jeptha Massie Disc #11 Pin #967596 > > Mother: Mary Sowards Disc #11 Pin #967594 > > ----------- > > > > Marriage(s): > > Spouse: Sarah Meadows Disc #11 Pin #967734 > > Marriage: 18 Apr 1809 Place: monroe > > > > Spouse: Mary Polly Gore Disc #11 Pin #967742 > > Marriage: 23 Oct 1818 Place: monroe > > `````` > > > Does anyone have a list of the children of Jon, with dates? I have seen > several lists but they are not anywhere the same > > Thanks for writing. > Sandy in Florida > [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> > Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

Actually, the Church is near the banks of the Greenbrier River which is recognized as the dividing line between Greenbrier and Monroe counties. The town of Alderson is on both sides of the river. Julie McGrew-Ayres mztek@mindspring.com Monroe County WVGenWeb Admin www.rootsweb.com/~wvmonroe

In a message dated 09/05/2000 9:11:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dkewald@netzero.net writes: << I am also interested in any of the Massie/Sowards information! I descend from Jeptha Massey/Massie and Mary Sowards through their son, Robert. Dianna Kemp Ewald >> I have a Robert Massie/Massey s/o Jeptha E. Massie III, that married a Susan M. Wickline in Gallia Co, OH, is this the Robert you are speaking of? They had 6 children that we know of. Margureitte Wickline research

In answer to query as to the founding members of the Old Greenbrier Baptist Church in Alderson, WV, the 1982 issue of the Journal of the Greenbrier Historical Society lists these charter members as follows: Alderson, Elder John Alderson, Mary (wife of John) Kippers, John Scaggs, John Scaggs, Joseph Scaggs, Katherine, sr. Scaggs, Lucy Sheppherd, John Wood,, Ann Wood, Bailey Wood, James Entire membership with dates are listed in this Journal. Dorothy Miller

Does anybody have a copy or transcription of the 1781/2 Will of Colonel Fielding Lewis that married Elizabeth "Betty" Washington & Catherine Washington? Elizabeth "Betty" Washington is the sister of General George Washington First President of The United States. Their common ancestors are Augustine Washington and Mary Ball. Catherine Washington and General George Washington First President of the United States are 1st cousins. Their common ancestors are Lawrence Washington and Mildred Warner. thanks in advance, Patrick

Hello Cousins, My lines are so many in these two counties, Greenbrier and Monroe, that if you are reading this we are almost certainly related in some way. Right now I am looking to make contact with more Hoke and Ayers descendents in order to fill out some dead ends. I will happily provide what I have on these two lines with documentation with the understanding that it is a work in progress. bye for now, Bob Zingo in Rochester, NY

I am sorry about that. I did hit a wrong key----Ida M. Lancaster R.N. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Karl Mann <karlmann@bellsouth.net> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 2:55 PM Subject: [WVMONROE] Re: WVMONROE-D Digest V00 #155 > The list has had several typos and misinformation concerning John Alderson. > Hee established the Old Greenbrier CHurch in 1781, The following web site > contains his biography. Also the next web site contians the Alderson Lineage > in America. > > http://www.lvbaptist.org/cameos/bc-alder.html > > Lineage: > http://www.slip.net/~dgf/alderson.htm > > TTFN and CUL, > Karl Mann > > >

The list has had several typos and misinformation concerning John Alderson. Hee established the Old Greenbrier CHurch in 1781, The following web site contains his biography. Also the next web site contians the Alderson Lineage in America. http://www.lvbaptist.org/cameos/bc-alder.html Lineage: http://www.slip.net/~dgf/alderson.htm TTFN and CUL, Karl Mann

I can get it. Ida ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Kenney <patrickkenney@uswest.net> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 12:27 PM Subject: RE: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > Ida, > this is a pretty important, piece of info to me, do you have the film > number? > thanks in advance, > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ida Lancaster [mailto:txrose@arn.net] > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:17 AM > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > I use LDS films and I found the info. on one of the films. It was a film > about the Morris family. Ida at the top of Texas > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Patrick Kenney <patrickkenney@uswest.net> > To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:35 AM > Subject: RE: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > > Ida, > > I am very much interested in what you have on the families that traveled > > with John Alderson to Greenbrier County, > > from Botetourt... > > thanks in advance, > > Patrick Kenney > > Phoenix, Arizona. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ida Lancaster [mailto:txrose@arn.net] > > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 8:30 AM > > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > > > > John Alderson was in Botetourt Co., Va. Several joined him and followed > him > > to Greenbrier W.Va. One of the families to join him was the Morris > family. > > They were Quarkers and turned Baptist. I think maybe the Hicks family > also > > follwed him to Greenbrier. Ida at the top of Texas. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: bill hobbs <hobbs@usit.net> > > To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:41 AM > > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > > > > > Dr. Karl and all, > > > > > > Sorry for the misinformation. I was quoting the captions of photos from > a > > > published book. You know the kind of trouble that can get us into:-) > > > > > > Clarification: The town of Alderson was settled in 1777 by John > Alderson. > > > The Greenbrier Baptist Church was founded in 1871 by John Alderson. The > > Muddy > > > Creek Settlements were destryyed by Cornstalk and the Shawnees in 1763. > > > > > > Bill Hobbs > > > > > > > > > "Dr. Karl Mann" wrote: > > > > > > > The last e-mail was incorrect. Alderson WV straddles the Greenbrier > > River > > > > which is the boundary between Monroe and Greenbrier Counties. Muddy > > Creek > > > > empties into the Greenbrier. I am a direct descendant of John Alderson > > and > > > > was born in Alderson. He founded the town in 1777. > > > > > > > > Karl Mann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Ida, this is a pretty important, piece of info to me, do you have the film number? thanks in advance, Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Ida Lancaster [mailto:txrose@arn.net] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:17 AM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church I use LDS films and I found the info. on one of the films. It was a film about the Morris family. Ida at the top of Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Kenney <patrickkenney@uswest.net> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > Ida, > I am very much interested in what you have on the families that traveled > with John Alderson to Greenbrier County, > from Botetourt... > thanks in advance, > Patrick Kenney > Phoenix, Arizona. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ida Lancaster [mailto:txrose@arn.net] > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 8:30 AM > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > John Alderson was in Botetourt Co., Va. Several joined him and followed him > to Greenbrier W.Va. One of the families to join him was the Morris family. > They were Quarkers and turned Baptist. I think maybe the Hicks family also > follwed him to Greenbrier. Ida at the top of Texas. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bill hobbs <hobbs@usit.net> > To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > > Dr. Karl and all, > > > > Sorry for the misinformation. I was quoting the captions of photos from a > > published book. You know the kind of trouble that can get us into:-) > > > > Clarification: The town of Alderson was settled in 1777 by John Alderson. > > The Greenbrier Baptist Church was founded in 1871 by John Alderson. The > Muddy > > Creek Settlements were destryyed by Cornstalk and the Shawnees in 1763. > > > > Bill Hobbs > > > > > > "Dr. Karl Mann" wrote: > > > > > The last e-mail was incorrect. Alderson WV straddles the Greenbrier > River > > > which is the boundary between Monroe and Greenbrier Counties. Muddy > Creek > > > empties into the Greenbrier. I am a direct descendant of John Alderson > and > > > was born in Alderson. He founded the town in 1777. > > > > > > Karl Mann > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I use LDS films and I found the info. on one of the films. It was a film about the Morris family. Ida at the top of Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Kenney <patrickkenney@uswest.net> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 11:35 AM Subject: RE: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > Ida, > I am very much interested in what you have on the families that traveled > with John Alderson to Greenbrier County, > from Botetourt... > thanks in advance, > Patrick Kenney > Phoenix, Arizona. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ida Lancaster [mailto:txrose@arn.net] > Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 8:30 AM > To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > John Alderson was in Botetourt Co., Va. Several joined him and followed him > to Greenbrier W.Va. One of the families to join him was the Morris family. > They were Quarkers and turned Baptist. I think maybe the Hicks family also > follwed him to Greenbrier. Ida at the top of Texas. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bill hobbs <hobbs@usit.net> > To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2000 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Old Greenbrier Baptist Church > > > > Dr. Karl and all, > > > > Sorry for the misinformation. I was quoting the captions of photos from a > > published book. You know the kind of trouble that can get us into:-) > > > > Clarification: The town of Alderson was settled in 1777 by John Alderson. > > The Greenbrier Baptist Church was founded in 1871 by John Alderson. The > Muddy > > Creek Settlements were destryyed by Cornstalk and the Shawnees in 1763. > > > > Bill Hobbs > > > > > > "Dr. Karl Mann" wrote: > > > > > The last e-mail was incorrect. Alderson WV straddles the Greenbrier > River > > > which is the boundary between Monroe and Greenbrier Counties. Muddy > Creek > > > empties into the Greenbrier. I am a direct descendant of John Alderson > and > > > was born in Alderson. He founded the town in 1777. > > > > > > Karl Mann > > > > > > > > > > > > >

I am interested in the Massie/Sowards Information if anybody has any... thanks in advance, Patrick Kenney Phoenix, Arizona. -----Original Message----- From: SandraG627@aol.com [mailto:SandraG627@aol.com] Sent: Monday, September 04, 2000 5:59 AM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVMONROE] Re: Massie/Meadows/Gore In a message dated 9/4/00 7:00:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Suttafran writes: > Jonathan Massie Compact Disc #11 Pin #967733 Sex: M > ----------- > Event(s): > Birth: 13 Mar 1787 Place: Monroe Co, VA > Death: 19 Jul 1876 Place: Lawrence, OH > ----------- > Parents: > Father: Jeptha Massie Disc #11 Pin #967596 > Mother: Mary Sowards Disc #11 Pin #967594 > ----------- > > Marriage(s): > Spouse: Sarah Meadows Disc #11 Pin #967734 > Marriage: 18 Apr 1809 Place: monroe > > Spouse: Mary Polly Gore Disc #11 Pin #967742 > Marriage: 23 Oct 1818 Place: monroe > `````` > Does anyone have a list of the children of Jon, with dates? I have seen several lists but they are not anywhere the same Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>