This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------44EB345FFC12D9B71258B204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The second is Harvey E. Meadows, who was married three times, once in Monroe County, once in Kanawha County, and once in Clay County, finally settling in Fayette County, near the Fayette/Kanawha County line. John SandraG627@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/00 9:04:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > gsf02627@mail.wvnet.edu writes: > > WV death Records: > > > > Harvy Meadows d. 7-22-1909 Fayette Co. WV > > (no parents given) > > > > Harvey D. Meadows d. 1-20-1935 Summers Co. WV > > (F) J. E. Meadows > > (M) Martha Garrett > > The second one is son of James b 1879, does anyone know the first one? > > Thanks for writing. > Sandy in Florida > [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> > Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin> --------------44EB345FFC12D9B71258B204 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="backjudge1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for John C. Dawson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="backjudge1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Dawson;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.geocities.com/cok11wv adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:backjudge1@centuryinter.net title:11th West Virginia Infantry x-mozilla-cpt:;-21696 fn:11th West Virginia Infantry end:vcard --------------44EB345FFC12D9B71258B204--

I don't know either. They are not my ancestors. I got carried away with someones narratives and just took a look for the list Bridgett -----Original Message----- From: SandraG627@aol.com <SandraG627@aol.com> To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 6:35 AM Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Harvey Meadows >In a message dated 9/24/00 9:04:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >gsf02627@mail.wvnet.edu writes: >> WV death Records: >> >> Harvy Meadows d. 7-22-1909 Fayette Co. WV >> (no parents given) >> >> Harvey D. Meadows d. 1-20-1935 Summers Co. WV >> (F) J. E. Meadows >> (M) Martha Garrett > >The second one is son of James b 1879, does anyone know the first one? > >Thanks for writing. >Sandy in Florida >[Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> >Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin> >

Hi all, I've been following the string on Hoke Cem. and the Vance messages. I have a question for someone who does the VANCE line in the Monroe/Greenbrier area. Samuel Humphreys (c1776-1855) was listed (1850 Federal census - Monroe Co) as married to wife "Polly age 66" - born c1784. Some say she was a VANCE (others say Jarvis -- Morten). In later censuses, her son said that she was born in Maryland. Out of curiosity -- are there any VANCES in the area who came from MD? Are there any Mary "Polly" Vances that are unaccounted for who might have married in Monroe/Greenbrier c1800. Samuel moved from the Anthonies Creek area of Greenbrier down onto Indian Creek around 1800. His sister, Isabella, married Rev. Jacob Cook who had a grant for many hundred acres on Indian Creek c1798. Samuel's land bounded on Cook and several Maddys. Does any of this place Samuel near the VANCE area of settlement? Ed

Bonnie..Do you have dates for Rosanna Vance? Was William a Vance? Do you know where they lived? Questions!! Questions! I have a little WV Vance info and would like to find more. Every bit helps. The Vance info I have indicates their origin was in PA to WV, possibly 1780/90. Thanks, Va

I was wondering if William had a sister named Rosanna Vance?

In a message dated 9/24/00 9:04:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gsf02627@mail.wvnet.edu writes: > WV death Records: > > Harvy Meadows d. 7-22-1909 Fayette Co. WV > (no parents given) > > Harvey D. Meadows d. 1-20-1935 Summers Co. WV > (F) J. E. Meadows > (M) Martha Garrett The second one is son of James b 1879, does anyone know the first one? Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

Anyone else having trouble? Unable to open voo.# 174-173- & 165. Maxine Ellis Ryan

Hellems, Nathan d 8-4-1918 35y 23d (right spelling from stone) Helms, William McKinly 1-28-1897 12-8-1971 & Helms, Celo Mae (Looney) - 3-30-1896 8-29-1974 Researching ThomasJEWELL,William HATCHER, AndrewHOWARD, AsaHALL, Sarah FARLEY, James GRAHAM, George BOOTHE, any HICKLIN, William GREEN,Thurman BAXTER,John "the settler" BISHOP, Ezra COLLINS, William CUNNINGHAM, Clarence SMITH, Pierce BOYER, Christopher TYNAN, Georg (Dresher)THRASHER , Sarah COX, anyOBENCHAIN,any AKERS, Emra ALTIZER,Henry VANOVER doreatr@rbnet.com rena@genealogy.org http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Woods/3798/index.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~vapatric http://www.rootsweb.com/~varockbr/rock.htm http://www.geocities.com/craig_county_va/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaboteto/botetot.htm http://www.pipeline.com/~bobnroa/floyd.html Look at my VA Counties, Craig, Floyd, Giles, Patrick User Friendly Sites http://www.genexchange.com/county.cfm?state=va&county=craig http://www.genexchange.com/county.cfm?state=va&county=floyd http://www.genexchange.com/county.cfm?State=va&County=giles http://www.genexchange.com/county.cfm?State=va&County=patrick

Hi Sandy, If you have not already heard, Malden is about 5-10 miles up the Kanawha River from Charleston and Witcher is about another 5-10 from there. Steve Legg Hendersonville, NC -----Original Message----- From: SandraG627@aol.com [mailto:SandraG627@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 6:11 PM To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVMONROE] Re: wash. meadows, YOUNG emma In a message dated 9/23/00 1:28:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Debea107@aol.com writes: > W. Greenkee and Emma are both listed for the first time as a couple in the > 1880 census of W.Va. > > In the census of 1900 W.Va. Cabin Creek district of Kanawha County they are > listed with their 4 children. > > By the 1910 Census of West Virginia Malden District: > Green Meadows 54 yrs and Emma 54 yrs are listed with son Wilbur 28 yrs his > wife Laura 21 years , gdaughter Marsella 2yrs and Green's oldest son Sydney > (John) age 21 years lists him as single. > The census sates that Wilbur and Laura have been married 4 years. > > In a 1920 Census of West Virginia Malden District #6 it lists > G.W.Meadows is living in the household of his son John (Wilbur) and his wife > Where are all of these censuses? all in Summers? I have their marriage in Kanawha, where is Malden? also don't find Witcher on the WV road map Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

I found this in WV death Records: Harvy Meadows d. 7-22-1909 Fayette Co. WV (no parents given) Harvey D. Meadows d. 1-20-1935 Summers Co. WV (F) J. E. Meadows (M) Martha Garrett -----Original Message----- From: Debea107@aol.com <Debea107@aol.com> To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Saturday, September 23, 2000 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] YOUNG emma >Sandy, I have this for Emma F. Young: >b. July 1855 married 2 May 1878 Summers Co. Va. Washington Greenkee Meadows . >Both listed as 22 years of age at time of marriage. >Children: >James Wilbur b. 1882 >Ida M. b. 1884 >Charles H. 1885 >John Sydney b. 1889 > >W. Greenkee and Emma are both listed for the first time as a couple in the >1880 census of W.Va. > >In the census of 1900 W.Va. Cabin Creek district of Kanawha County they are >listed with their 4 children. > >By the 1910 Census of West Virginia Malden District: >Green Meadows 54 yrs and Emma 54 yrs are listed with son Wilbur 28 yrs his >wife Laura 21 years , gdaughter Marsella 2yrs and Green's oldest son Sydney >(John) age 21 years lists him as single. >The census sates that Wilbur and Laura have been married 4 years. > >In a 1920 Census of West Virginia Malden District #6 it lists that >G.W.Meadows is living in the household of his son John (Wilbur) and his wife >Laura and their two daughters Marcella and Leona. G.W. is 64 years old and >is a widower. Emma must have died sometime after 1910. The census states that >G.W. was a carpenter with the R. R. and was born in W.Va. > >Death of Washington Greenkee Meadows was reported by his son John Wilbur >Meadows. to be on Nov. 17, 1935 in Witcher W.Va. at the age of 80 years , 4 >months and 20 days. This account lists his occupation as a handle maker and >his birth place as Summers County. It lists his father as Harvey Meadows and >his mother as Martha Boone? I never have been able to figure that out.!!! > >What I would give to have this much inforamtion on Harvey E. Meadows, >Washington Greenkee's father. > >Debbie in So. Carolina searching Harvey E.Meadows >debea107@aol.com >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8AA6E1F33230C818B81F2855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a letter from his granddaughter, Mrs. H. B. Nelms, to the pension department, August 15, 1955, she states: " My grandfather, Harvey Deskins Meadows of Elgood, West Virginia was born on December 7, 1837. He fought the entire four years of the civil war, and as a result of being wounded in the war, he lost sight in one eye. He drew a pension for a short while. Then suddenly the pension stopped in 1885 without any explanation at all. After this he drew no more of it. I would like to know if there was a reason his pension was stopped. Shouldn't he have drawn it until his death, June 26, 1900? Since he did not receive this money that was entitled to him, shouldn't his two remaining daughters, Mrs. Mollie Meadows Shepherd and Mrs Cora Meadows Falls (?) receive this amount that should have been paid from the time it was stopped until his death? I would appreciate your checking on this matter and letting me know. Thank you very much, Yours Truly, Mrs. H. B. Nelms" This Harvey Deskins Meadows has affidavits explaining his being in the Mercer County Militia, and in the summer of 1861, was called to Princeton to take the oath of allegiance to the confederacy. He refused and has an interesting account of hiding in the backwoods with other union sympathizers, where he was pursued by the 17th Virginia Cavalry C.S.A. He was in hiding for 9 months.He met with the Union General Cox, whereby he was told to gather all loyal Virginians. When Harvey returned to his home, Cox was forced to retire back toward Charleston. He was eventually captured with W. H. Meadows and L.D. Bucklin and was to be sent to Richmond prison. He was offered enlistment into the confederate army vs. prison and chose the former. His first opportunity to escape was at the Battle of Greencastle, PA in July 1863 (Gettysburg Campaign), where he deserted the confederate ranks. He was sent to Fort Delaware (Union Prison) where he asked General Schaeffer to take the Oath of Allegiance, which he did. He was awaiting a letter from his uncle Jacob Meadows from St. Joseph, Missouri to vouch for his loyalty. He eventually joined Company B, 1st U.S. Volunteers and remained in the US Army from 1/25/1864 to 12/5/1865 where he was discharged at Leavenworth Kansas. There is also an affidavit from W. Henderson Meadows (the one in hiding with Harvey) who substantiated the above statement. Apparently Bucklin, the other person, was never seen again. He too, deserted the southern lines. No mention of Harvey's wife however. John C. Dawson --------------8AA6E1F33230C818B81F2855 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="backjudge1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for John C. Dawson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="backjudge1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Dawson;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.geocities.com/cok11wv adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:backjudge1@centuryinter.net title:11th West Virginia Infantry x-mozilla-cpt:;-21696 fn:11th West Virginia Infantry end:vcard --------------8AA6E1F33230C818B81F2855--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------09619C1925D6CABD3ACF2450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a letter from his granddaughter, Mrs. H. B. Nelms, to the pension department, August 15, 1955, she states: " My grandfather, Harvey Deskins Meadows of Elgood, West Virginia was born on December 7, 1837. He fought the entire four years of the civil war, and as a result of being wounded in the war, he lost sight in one eye. He drew a pension for a short while. Then suddenly the pension stopped in 1885 without any explanation at all. After this he drew no more of it. I would like to know if there was a reason his pension was stopped. Shouldn't he have drawn it until his death, June 26, 1900? Since he did not receive this money that was entitled to him, shouldn't his two remaining daughters, Mrs. Mollie Meadows Shepherd and Mrs Cora Meadows Falls (?) receive this amount that should have been paid from the time it was stopped until his death? I would appreciate your checking on this matter and letting me know. Thank you very much, Yours Truly, Mrs. H. B. Nelms" This Harvey Deskins Meadows has affadavits explaining his being in the Mercer County Militia, and in the summer of 1861, was called to Princeton to take the oath of allegiance to the confederacy. He refused and has an interesting account of hiding in the backwoods with other union sympathizers, where he was pursued by the 17th Virginia Cavalry C.S.A. He was in hiding for 9 months.He met with the Union General Cox, whereby he was told to gather all loyal Virginians. When Harvey returned to his home, Cox was forced to retire back toward Charleston.He was eventually captured with W. H. Meadows and L.D. Bucklin and was to be sent to Richmond prison. He was offered enlistment into the confederate army vs. prison and chose the former. His first opportunity to escape was at the Battle of Greencastle, PA in July 1863 (Gettysburg Campaign), where he deserted the confederate ranks. He was sent to Fort Delaware (Union Prison) where he asked General Schaeffer to take the Oath of Allegiance, which he did. He was awaiting a letter from his uncle Jacob Meadows from St. Joseph, Missouri to vouch for his loyalty. He eventually joined Company B, 1st U.S. Volunteers and remained in the US Army from 1/25/1864 to 12/5/1865 where he was discharged at Leavenworth Kansas. There is also an affadavit from W. Henderson Meadows (the one in hiding with Harvey) who substantiated the above statement. Apparently Bucklin, the other person, was never seen again. He too, deserted the southern lines. No mention of Harvey's wife however. John C. Dawson SandraG627@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 9/24/00 3:54:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > backjudge1@centuryinter.net writes: > > > This is Harvey Deskins Meadows. I have his pension records, and he was > > conscripted into the confederate service unwantedly, deserted at or near > > Gettysburg, paroled, and enlisted into the U.S. Army, and moved to the > > western theatre. He is not the Harvey Meadows married to Sarah Jane > Boon(e), > > and resided in Mercer County after the war. > > Is he the one married to Victoria Welks? > > Thanks for writing. > Sandy in Florida > [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] > <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> > Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin> --------------09619C1925D6CABD3ACF2450 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="backjudge1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for John C. Dawson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="backjudge1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Dawson;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.geocities.com/cok11wv adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:backjudge1@centuryinter.net title:11th West Virginia Infantry x-mozilla-cpt:;-21696 fn:11th West Virginia Infantry end:vcard --------------09619C1925D6CABD3ACF2450--

Possibly William McKinley Helms was the son of Thomas Helms and Julie Arthur, if he was born abt. 1870. Can you ascertain some dates on him and on Grant Hellems? Thanks. damiller@inetone.net

Dear Sandy, Charles Nathen Helems was b. 7/11/1875 in Craig Co., VA, son of William Mathew Hellems and Hester Ann Baker. He was b. 1831 in Botetourt Co., VA, and she was b. 1843 in Monroe Co, the dtr. of William Washington Baker and Sarah Jane Worsham. William Mathew Hellems was the son of John Helms and Rebecca Drummond m. in Botetourt Co., VA, in 1818. William M. was listed as a shoemaker. I show that Nathan Helems had 2 sisters, Dona Ellen Helems b. 1879 at Paint Bank d. 1947, and Martha Musto Helems b. 1884 in Craig Co., VA. d. 1956. I have not taken the Hellems line beyond the above-mentioned John and am still researching, and if you will provide the names and dates of Nathan's descendants, as well as his sisters, I would be most appreciative. Please contact me further direct at damiller@inetone.net . Thanks.

I, too, have been doing some research on the Monroe Co. Vances. My gggaunt, Rebecca Jane Bostick b. 1838 d. 1932 at age 94 was married to Caperton Vance at the age of 18 in 1857. He fought for the Confederacy, then with the Union Army and was killed in the Battle of Cedar Creek. They lived at Glace (sometimes called Laurel Creek). She was called "Becky", and Caperton was 26 when they married, son of William and Jane Spradlin Vance who were married in Monroe Co. in 1827. Caperton's sister, Sally A. m. H. C. Holesapple in 1857. I have 5 single spaced sheets on their descendants in My Family Tree, which is not on the web yet. I had written my tree in book form over the last 40 years, and since I retired, have been entering it into the computer as a Family Tree Maker project, as well as researching other lines through the internet. My e-mail address is damiller@inetone.net, and I would prefer to communicate direct. Thanks. Dorothy Miller

Dear Bill Johnson, Yes, we probably met at Ethel Lowance's funeral, for she was a neighbor of my grandmother Bostic in Ronceverte. Her daughters, Mary Jane and Emojean are two of my long-time friends (abt. 1947). In fact, Mary Jane and her husband, Doran Cornwell, are coming to spend a couple of nights with me this week. Doran's brother, Estell, died in his sleep last night in Ronceverte. I've been dabling in Lowance/Eagle/Shafer geneaology on Mary Jane's and Emojean's behalf for several years (when I run across anything about these surnames when I am researching my Helms/Hellems ancestors and others.). Send me your e-mail address and I will give it to them, as both are in touch with me almost daily. I would also prefer to communicate with you direct rather than on the rootsweb site. It sounds like you have a lot of information on Lem's family that I do not have, and I would be delighted to share this. Dorothy Miller damiller@inetone.net

Hello To All, I am looking for information on Nathan Helems died 8-4-1910 in Paint Bank, Va. Craig Co. He had a son William McKinley Helems born 1-28-1896. Nathan Helems name could appear as C. Nathan Helems. He was a great carpenter, and built the old Hotel in Paint Bank, Va. Thanks, Sandy in Ohio

Hi Sue: Was you James Gray from Greenbrier or Monroe County? I am looking for John, b. 1785 John ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gshuff63@aol.com> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2000 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Leonard Helems/Hellems family > I have done some research on Joseph Helms/Helems who married Mary > Gray, the daughter of James and Mary Harrison Gray. > Joseph was also a son of Rebecca and John Helms. > > Sue > Craig County, VA > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D083D6CFE42DA69B99249290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The militia was not really considered a confederate unit. They were formed by the states for the protection of each county. Because of the war, the militias in the Counties with southern allegiance, therefore contained many confederate sympathizers as members. There are many accounts of these militia regiments that contained BOTH union and confederate sympathizers even after the war began. This often caused a lack of trust when using these units. In the Counties of what is now West Virginia and in the southern section (that is, Monroe, etc.,) these militias aided in fighting against the union army when called upon since they contained primarily southern men. Remember however, they were not regular units, but older or very younger males, and were supposed to be used to defend their county. It is therefore possible that Harvey E. Meadows was in the unit but a unionist, since during the war he moved to Kanawha County and named his children after patriots (George Washington [Washington Greenke Meadows], Sam Houston [Houston Meadows], and Ulysseus S. Grant [Ulisus Grant Meadows]) I have followed Harvey E. Meadows for many, many years searching in vain for his parentage. Harvey Deskins Meadows, therefore, crossed my path many times and with much information. We are very close to connecting Harvey E. to his father. Just need more documentation. John John Arley Meadows wrote: > I have seen numerous comments and queries, on this and other lists, > concerning Harvey MEADOWS. The digital library at the Library of > Virginia site shows two [a Harvey Meadows - and - a Harvey E. Meadows] > listed on the "Confederate Rosters" of the 166th Militia. This may be > another avenue of research for anyone pursuing this line. > > Arley Meadows --------------D083D6CFE42DA69B99249290 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="backjudge1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for John C. Dawson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="backjudge1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Dawson;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.geocities.com/cok11wv adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:backjudge1@centuryinter.net title:11th West Virginia Infantry x-mozilla-cpt:;-21696 fn:11th West Virginia Infantry end:vcard --------------D083D6CFE42DA69B99249290--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AE2F9702CA6D28D418162D13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is Harvey Deskins Meadows. I have his pension records, and he was conscripted into the confederate service unwantedly, deserted at or near Gettysburg, paroled, and enlisted into the U.S. Army, and moved to the western theatre. He is not the Harvey Meadows married to Sarah Jane Boon(e), and resided in Mercer County after the war. John Arley Meadows wrote: > Also, there are pension records listed as follows: > > "Harvey D. Meadows > B 1 U.S. Vol. Inf. > Invalid application # 776658 (dated May 20 1872) > Certificate # 686256" > > Hope this is of some help. > > Arley > > Arley Meadows wrote: > > > I have seen numerous comments and queries, on this and other lists, > > concerning Harvey MEADOWS. The digital library at the Library of > > Virginia site shows two [a Harvey Meadows - and - a Harvey E. Meadows] > > listed on the "Confederate Rosters" of the 166th Militia. This may be > > another avenue of research for anyone pursuing this line. > > > > Arley Meadows --------------AE2F9702CA6D28D418162D13 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="backjudge1.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for John C. Dawson Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="backjudge1.vcf" begin:vcard n:Dawson;John x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.geocities.com/cok11wv adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:backjudge1@centuryinter.net title:11th West Virginia Infantry x-mozilla-cpt:;-21696 fn:11th West Virginia Infantry end:vcard --------------AE2F9702CA6D28D418162D13--