Thanks a lot. You can bet I will be reading them. The manuscripts about Boone are really interesting. Ida at the top of Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Valerie & Tommy Crook <vfcrook@earthlink.net> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: [WVMONROE] Draper's Manuscripts WAS: Fort Donnally > Check out <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/draper/> > > There are some transcriptions from some letters from Drapers Manuscript here. > > Enjoy! > > Valerie > > At 06:18 PM 10/16/00, you wrote: > > > I think there is info. about Fort Donnally in Drapers Manuscripts. Check > >your local college and see if they have Drapers Manuscripts. Ida at the > >top of Texas > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Michael Radcliff <reachmar@hotmail.com> > >To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 4:02 PM > >Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Re: Fort Donnally > > > > > > > Bridgette, > > > What luck - Burns is the one I am interested in, too! The casualties I > > > have seen written were John Pritchet, Alexander Ocheltree, James Burns and > > > James Graham. Go to this site (chapter 10 of Wither's Chronicles of > >Border > > > Warfare) for a description of the attack: > > > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/border/chap10.html > > > > > > Pritchet was killed while getting in some firewood, Ochiltree and Burns > > > while trying to enter the fort after arriving early in the morning, and > > > Graham while within the fort. > > > > > > The reason for my wanting to find someone with information about Alexander > > > Ocheltree is that I feel he must have been a friend of James Burns (my > >ggggg > > > grandfather) and possibly even immigrated to America with him. The two of > > > them were arriving by themselves from a distant settlement (where??) so > >they > > > must have at least known each other. Both Burns and Ocheltree are septs > >of > > > Clan Campbell and James Burns was purportedly born in County Roscommon, > > > Ireland about 1741, so it follows that Ocheltree may have been, as well. > >It > > > is only a theory, but I am trying to find information on Ocheltree to help > > > prove or disprove where James Burns arrived from. I've not been able to > > > find a ship where he sailed to America so far; I thought broadening the > > > search by including Ocheltree might help. Any ideas? James Burns is the > > > oldest Burns name I have - from this James Burns, I have an unbroken line > > > clear down to my mother, who was a Burns. It would be really great to > > > locate a diary or journal someone might have been keeping at the time! > > > > > > If I can be of any more help, let me know! Or if you have any idea where > > > Alexander Ocheltree was from. Also, does anyone know the names of > > > settlements within a day's ride of Fort Donnally back in the 1770's? > > > Mike Radcliff > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > > >

Sandy, First if all, I have Mary J. "Polly" Roach's parents being Reuben Riley Roach (s/o David Roach?) and Sarah "Sallie" Ball (d/o Micajah Ball).It has been suggested that James' parents were Elijah Roach (s/o Jonathan Roach) and Hannah Keatley (d/o Francis Keatley). I got the following info from the 1850 Monroe Co. Census, Monroe Co. Births 1850-1860, Monroe Co. Marriages 1799-1850, Monroe Co. Marriages 1851-1900. Wyoming Co. Marriages 1800-1900, Summers Co. Marriages 1851-1900 and Braxton Co. Marriages, pg 251. Children of James & Mary J. Roach: 1) William A. Roach b.~1838 Monroe Co. m. Mary Catherine McKinney in Wyoming Co. on 14 Nov 1860 2) Andrew J. Roach b.~1841 Monroe Co. 3) James A. Roach b.~1842 Monroe Co. 4) Campbell Roach b.~1844 Monroe Co. 5) Lewis F. Roach b.~1846 Monroe Co. 6) Reuben Riley Roach b.~1848 Monroe Co. m. Flora E. Wikle in Summers Co.on 25 Mar 1872 7) George Washington Roach b.20 Sep 1856 Monroe Co. m. Ruhama Keener in Braxton Co. on 04 May 1882 d. 1923 Braxton Co. I'm sure there were more children between #6 & #7 and hopefully there was a daughter or 2.... I just haven't found them.... George W. was my great-grandfather. Hope this helps..... Pam On Mon, 16 October 2000, SandraG627@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/15/00 5:56:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > pam_mike@looksmart.com writes: > > > parents of James Roach who married Mary Roach in 1836 (I think they > > may have been 2nd cousins, but haven't been able to prove it). > > I have these but no parents, do you have their children? > > Thanks for writing. > Sandy in Florida > Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin> Can't find what you're looking for? The LookSmart Live! community will help you find it and reward you for helping others. http://live.looksmart.com

In a message dated 10/17/00 6:10:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pam_mike@looksmart.com writes: > I have Mary J. Roach's parents being Reuben Riley Roach (s/o David > Roach?) and Sarah Ball (d/o Micajah Ball).It has been suggested that > James' parents were Elijah Roach (s/o Jonathan Roach) and Hannah Keatley (d/o > Francis Keatley). I got the following info from the 1850 Monroe Co. Census, > Monroe Co. Births 1850-1860, Monroe Co. Marriages 1799-1850, Monroe Co. > Marriages 1851-1900. Wyoming Co. Marriages 1800-1900, Summers Co. Marriages > 1851-1900 and Braxton Co. Marriages, pg 251. I have in Wyoming in 1850, Reuben is 65, Sarah is 64, with Sarah Jr 32, Margaret 24, Edward 35, Samuel Shield 36, Sarah R Roach 3 mo. Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

Joy, I show a John Smith married a Sarah Ann Bland in Monroe Co, WV on 5-21-1849. Also I show an Isabel Bland, daughter of Joesph Bland married Augustus Wickline on Dec 13 1866 in Monroe Co. Both of their ages shown as 20 years of age. He was son of Elius Wickline & mother, Elizabeth. Ginny Fair in Topeka, KS

Thank you for the Draper links, Valerie! Mike Radcliff _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

In a message dated 10/16/00 9:27:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gsf02627@mail.wvnet.edu writes: > I have Margaret Burns, daughter of James, married to Jacob Chapman. I have > a marriage date of 16 June 1779, Greenbriar County by John Alderson. LDS has > same date but Botoutort Co. Greenbrier formed in 1778, from parts of Botetourt, these are the correct spellings also, I have lots of Chapmans, do you have a dad for Jacob Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

My library does not have this microfilm but I have been in contact with Wis. Library. I inquired about a list of people living in that area at the time. This is where I was told to look. Hope this will help. "To add a little to response, I believe what you are looking for is contained in both 1QQ and 2QQ (Volumes 1 & 2 of Series QQ) of the Draper Manuscripts." Bridgett -----Original Message----- From: Valerie & Tommy Crook <vfcrook@earthlink.net> To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 8:04 PM Subject: [WVMONROE] Draper's Manuscripts WAS: Fort Donnally >Check out <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/draper/> > >There are some transcriptions from some letters from Drapers Manuscript here. > >Enjoy! > >Valerie > >At 06:18 PM 10/16/00, you wrote: > >> I think there is info. about Fort Donnally in Drapers Manuscripts. Check >>your local college and see if they have Drapers Manuscripts. Ida at the >>top of Texas >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Michael Radcliff <reachmar@hotmail.com> >>To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 4:02 PM >>Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Re: Fort Donnally >> >> >> > Bridgette, >> > What luck - Burns is the one I am interested in, too! The casualties I >> > have seen written were John Pritchet, Alexander Ocheltree, James Burns and >> > James Graham. Go to this site (chapter 10 of Wither's Chronicles of >>Border >> > Warfare) for a description of the attack: >> > >> > http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/border/chap10.html >> > >> > Pritchet was killed while getting in some firewood, Ochiltree and Burns >> > while trying to enter the fort after arriving early in the morning, and >> > Graham while within the fort. >> > >> > The reason for my wanting to find someone with information about Alexander >> > Ocheltree is that I feel he must have been a friend of James Burns (my >>ggggg >> > grandfather) and possibly even immigrated to America with him. The two of >> > them were arriving by themselves from a distant settlement (where??) so >>they >> > must have at least known each other. Both Burns and Ocheltree are septs >>of >> > Clan Campbell and James Burns was purportedly born in County Roscommon, >> > Ireland about 1741, so it follows that Ocheltree may have been, as well. >>It >> > is only a theory, but I am trying to find information on Ocheltree to help >> > prove or disprove where James Burns arrived from. I've not been able to >> > find a ship where he sailed to America so far; I thought broadening the >> > search by including Ocheltree might help. Any ideas? James Burns is the >> > oldest Burns name I have - from this James Burns, I have an unbroken line >> > clear down to my mother, who was a Burns. It would be really great to >> > locate a diary or journal someone might have been keeping at the time! >> > >> > If I can be of any more help, let me know! Or if you have any idea where >> > Alexander Ocheltree was from. Also, does anyone know the names of >> > settlements within a day's ride of Fort Donnally back in the 1770's? >> > Mike Radcliff >> > _________________________________________________________________________ >> > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. >> > >> > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >> > http://profiles.msn.com. >> > >> > >

Jim, I just took a book back to library that showed the all forts and location in WV. I will take another look in the next few days. Bridgett -----Original Message----- From: Michael Radcliff <reachmar@hotmail.com> To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Monday, October 16, 2000 5:02 PM ! > >If I can be of any more help, let me know! Or if you have any idea where >Alexander Ocheltree was from. Also, does anyone know the names of >settlements within a day's ride of Fort Donnally back in the 1770's? >Mike Radcliff >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. >

Mike, I have Margaret Burns, daughter of James, married to Jacob Chapman. I have a marriage date of 16 June 1779, Greenbriar County by John Alderson. LDS has same date but Botoutort Co. I also find same date in Monroe Co. Does this check out with your records? I know nothing else about James, wife or siblings. Anything you care to share I would sure appreciate. Bridgett

Check out <http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/special/draper/> There are some transcriptions from some letters from Drapers Manuscript here. Enjoy! Valerie At 06:18 PM 10/16/00, you wrote: > I think there is info. about Fort Donnally in Drapers Manuscripts. Check >your local college and see if they have Drapers Manuscripts. Ida at the >top of Texas > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Radcliff <reachmar@hotmail.com> >To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 4:02 PM >Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Re: Fort Donnally > > > > Bridgette, > > What luck - Burns is the one I am interested in, too! The casualties I > > have seen written were John Pritchet, Alexander Ocheltree, James Burns and > > James Graham. Go to this site (chapter 10 of Wither's Chronicles of >Border > > Warfare) for a description of the attack: > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/border/chap10.html > > > > Pritchet was killed while getting in some firewood, Ochiltree and Burns > > while trying to enter the fort after arriving early in the morning, and > > Graham while within the fort. > > > > The reason for my wanting to find someone with information about Alexander > > Ocheltree is that I feel he must have been a friend of James Burns (my >ggggg > > grandfather) and possibly even immigrated to America with him. The two of > > them were arriving by themselves from a distant settlement (where??) so >they > > must have at least known each other. Both Burns and Ocheltree are septs >of > > Clan Campbell and James Burns was purportedly born in County Roscommon, > > Ireland about 1741, so it follows that Ocheltree may have been, as well. >It > > is only a theory, but I am trying to find information on Ocheltree to help > > prove or disprove where James Burns arrived from. I've not been able to > > find a ship where he sailed to America so far; I thought broadening the > > search by including Ocheltree might help. Any ideas? James Burns is the > > oldest Burns name I have - from this James Burns, I have an unbroken line > > clear down to my mother, who was a Burns. It would be really great to > > locate a diary or journal someone might have been keeping at the time! > > > > If I can be of any more help, let me know! Or if you have any idea where > > Alexander Ocheltree was from. Also, does anyone know the names of > > settlements within a day's ride of Fort Donnally back in the 1770's? > > Mike Radcliff > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > >

Received more info from the creator of the Census Mailing Lists Julie McGrew-Ayres mztek@mindspring.com Fayette County WVGenWeb Admin WVFAYETT-List Admin Monroe County WVGenWeb Admin www.rootsweb.com/~wvmonroe www.rootsweb.com/~wvfayett ******************************************* ***Original Message*** Census Lookup Mailing lists Hello Everyone ! I have had to reword and rework the guidelines for the CENSUS-LOOKUP mailing lists and also include subscription instructions. I am sending these below. The lists have been growing like crazy since I created them three days ago and I expect the growth to continue as the word spreads. Please feel free to forward this to anyone you feel may be interested in joining. Of course the more people we have the more help we will be for each other. Please keep in mind that we are only a few days old and if your lookup request is not answered, try again in a week or two. Some of the state lists have already reached over 150 subscribers <G> Others have not been "advertised" as much and have fewer members. Hang in there and don't get discouraged if your not answered right away, these lists will be a great asset to our research after we reach the people and let them know that these lists are available. I am encouraging everyone to send this email to their surname and county mailing lists as well as to our cousins. Finally, If you have the material to help a fellow researcher, please use it. Thanks, Kelly (Subscription information at the end of this e-mail) Guidelines for posting to the lists: Established 11 October 2000 EMAIL SUBJECT LINES: COUNTY,YEAR,SURNAME NO FLAMING or you will be unsubbed without notice. By this I mean not only being rude or mean to each other but there will be NO and I do mean NO debating here about the Census Projects. This list is for everyone who wants to research. NO General requests such as "all Smiths in all counties" Be specific, Name the County, Family you are looking for and also the year. Try to supply as much info as possible. LIMIT your requests to ONE PER CENSUS YEAR and SURNAME My Mama taught me that Thank you and Please are always nice too :) A few people have emailed me asking how to sign up for the new lists and what to do. - ------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. All lists are XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-D-request@rootsweb.com The XX is to be removed and the two letter abbreviation for the state you are looking in added in its place. Examples: MI-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com CA-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com IL-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L-request@rootsweb.com 2. So, send an email to the one of your choice (make sure to have the state). Put NOTHING in the subject line. In the body of the email write only: subscribe Then send it on :) 3. POSTING to the new census lists: A. Send it to XX-CENSUS-LOOKUP-L@rootsweb.com (supply the two letter state code for the XX again) B: Subject line MUST have the following: County/Year/Surname Example: Saginaw/1850/Smith C: In the body of the email: List whom you are looking for. Supply as much information as you can. Birthplace, ages, occupation, etc. D: Mail it on! That's it folks :) I hope that helped. I have put the list of states and two letter codes below for you. AL Alabama AK Alaska AZ Arizona AR Arkansas CA California CO Colorado CT Connecticut DC District Of Columbia DE Delaware FL Florida GA Georgia HI Hawaii ID Idaho IL Illinois IN Indiana IA Iowa KS Kansas KY Kentucky LA Louisiana ME Maine MD Maryland MA Massachusetts MI Michigan MN Minnesota MS Mississippi MO Missouri MT Montana NE Nebraska NV Nevada NH New Hampshire NJ New Jersey NM New Mexico NY New York NC North Carolina ND North Dakota OH Ohio OK Oklahoma OR Oregon PA Pennsylvania RI Rhode Island SC South Carolina SD South Dakota TN Tennessee TX Texas UT Utah VT Vermont VA Virginia WA Washington (state) WV West Virginia WI Wisconsin WY Wyoming

I think there is info. about Fort Donnally in Drapers Manuscripts. Check your local college and see if they have Drapers Manuscripts. Ida at the top of Texas ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Radcliff <reachmar@hotmail.com> To: <WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [WVMONROE] Re: Fort Donnally > Bridgette, > What luck - Burns is the one I am interested in, too! The casualties I > have seen written were John Pritchet, Alexander Ocheltree, James Burns and > James Graham. Go to this site (chapter 10 of Wither's Chronicles of Border > Warfare) for a description of the attack: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/border/chap10.html > > Pritchet was killed while getting in some firewood, Ochiltree and Burns > while trying to enter the fort after arriving early in the morning, and > Graham while within the fort. > > The reason for my wanting to find someone with information about Alexander > Ocheltree is that I feel he must have been a friend of James Burns (my ggggg > grandfather) and possibly even immigrated to America with him. The two of > them were arriving by themselves from a distant settlement (where??) so they > must have at least known each other. Both Burns and Ocheltree are septs of > Clan Campbell and James Burns was purportedly born in County Roscommon, > Ireland about 1741, so it follows that Ocheltree may have been, as well. It > is only a theory, but I am trying to find information on Ocheltree to help > prove or disprove where James Burns arrived from. I've not been able to > find a ship where he sailed to America so far; I thought broadening the > search by including Ocheltree might help. Any ideas? James Burns is the > oldest Burns name I have - from this James Burns, I have an unbroken line > clear down to my mother, who was a Burns. It would be really great to > locate a diary or journal someone might have been keeping at the time! > > If I can be of any more help, let me know! Or if you have any idea where > Alexander Ocheltree was from. Also, does anyone know the names of > settlements within a day's ride of Fort Donnally back in the 1770's? > Mike Radcliff > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > >

I agree with Karl, a list of names does little good, better to put each family in the subject, with full names, dates and locations, one email per family, remember these will be in the archives In a message dated 10/16/00 4:26:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kinchaser@juno.com writes: > > I think listing surnames is perfect list manners! > Surnames are what I'm looking for to cue me if I need to read the post or > not. > As long as subject OR surname is posted THAT's good manners. > Crystal > > On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:43:09 -0500 "Dr. Karl Mann" > <karlmann@bellsouth.net> writes: > > I would like to remind all that you should put in a descriptive > > Subject Line > > when posting to the list. Surnames does me no good and just wastes > > time. > > Pleas e list the people being researched. thanks you. > > > > TTFN and CUL, > > Thanks for writing. Sandy in Florida [Sandra Sommerville Wells Griffith] <A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/fl2/sandrag">All My Mama's</A> Maybe I will catch up with my mail when I retire, in 2010, <grin>

I think listing surnames is perfect list manners! Surnames are what I'm looking for to cue me if I need to read the post or not. As long as subject OR surname is posted THAT's good manners. Crystal On Mon, 16 Oct 2000 11:43:09 -0500 "Dr. Karl Mann" <karlmann@bellsouth.net> writes: > I would like to remind all that you should put in a descriptive > Subject Line > when posting to the list. Surnames does me no good and just wastes > time. > Pleas e list the people being researched. thanks you. > > TTFN and CUL, > Karl > > Crystal A. Bingham, MSOT, OTR Manhattan, KS Vizslas: Denali Gold & Peaches n Cream; Felines: Bojangles & Nuisance Kitty Motto: To understand the living one must commune with the dead ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Thanks, Ida. I'll check the Draper Papers. Mike _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

Forrest, would like to share info you have re Reed family, as I have connection in my research to that surname in Monroe Co - Benjamin. Dorothy Miller damiller@inetone.net

Bridgette, What luck - Burns is the one I am interested in, too! The casualties I have seen written were John Pritchet, Alexander Ocheltree, James Burns and James Graham. Go to this site (chapter 10 of Wither's Chronicles of Border Warfare) for a description of the attack: http://www.rootsweb.com/~hcpd/border/chap10.html Pritchet was killed while getting in some firewood, Ochiltree and Burns while trying to enter the fort after arriving early in the morning, and Graham while within the fort. The reason for my wanting to find someone with information about Alexander Ocheltree is that I feel he must have been a friend of James Burns (my ggggg grandfather) and possibly even immigrated to America with him. The two of them were arriving by themselves from a distant settlement (where??) so they must have at least known each other. Both Burns and Ocheltree are septs of Clan Campbell and James Burns was purportedly born in County Roscommon, Ireland about 1741, so it follows that Ocheltree may have been, as well. It is only a theory, but I am trying to find information on Ocheltree to help prove or disprove where James Burns arrived from. I've not been able to find a ship where he sailed to America so far; I thought broadening the search by including Ocheltree might help. Any ideas? James Burns is the oldest Burns name I have - from this James Burns, I have an unbroken line clear down to my mother, who was a Burns. It would be really great to locate a diary or journal someone might have been keeping at the time! If I can be of any more help, let me know! Or if you have any idea where Alexander Ocheltree was from. Also, does anyone know the names of settlements within a day's ride of Fort Donnally back in the 1770's? Mike Radcliff _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

I have some information on a Reed family in Monroe Co in 1870's, althought not readily available. I will research this and let you know. Please email me ( freed@epi-tech.com ) for direct connection. Forrest ANC1779@aol.c om To: WVMONROE-L@rootsweb.com cc: 10/13/00 Subject: [WVMONROE] Luther and Josie Reed 10:44 PM Frances/Francis ~ early 1900s Monroe Please respond to WVMONROE-L I was just wondering if anyone would have any family, marriage, burial or descendant info concerning a Luther Francis and his wife, Josie Reed Francis (bc 1877, Monroe Co., WV;d/o John M. Reed and Sophia Catherine Underwood Reed). In the 1900 census, they were just recently married and were (temporarily) living with her father's household, that of John M. Reed. Any info would be very much appreciated, Bob

I would like to remind all that you should put in a descriptive Subject Line when posting to the list. Surnames does me no good and just wastes time. Pleas e list the people being researched. thanks you. TTFN and CUL, Karl

Mike, Do you have the names of the casualties of Fort Donnally? I am specially interest in the name of the Burns. Bridgett > >Pam, > Do you know anything about the family of Alexander Ocheltree that was one >of 4 men killed May 29, 1778 while attempting to enter Fort Donnally, >Greenbrier County during an Indian attack? > >Mike Radcliff >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://profiles.msn.com. >