I just wanted to thank everyone for their kind responses on my question about once and twice removed. I was and had been very confused about this problem and thanks to all my cousins, once, twice, three, four and even five times removed I am no longer confused. Thank you so much. Now I will be able to create my database with this information in mind. I hope that once it is created you will come and visit my site and add how you are related to me and my family. Yes, you are too, if you are from Logan or Mingo counties or have family that once lived there we are related. Thanks again Everyone Phil Montgomery