Hi Bill, My data base indicates that Orvin Ray Wagoner and I are each 4th great-grandsons of John M. Waggoner who (for others reading this) is one level below your Captain Thomas Wag[g]oner. I am also a 5th great-grandson of John M. Waggoner because of the marriage of James Frederick Waggoner-Wagoner and his first cousin once removed Nancy Ellen Waggoner on Sep 01, 1859. They or the Census taker changed their last name from Wagoner to Wagner after they moved to Missouri between the 1870 Census and the birth of their son James Harris Wagner who was born Bet. Mar 30 - 31, 1872. Dan