Attention Robinson/Neely researchers: The original (and all subsequent transcriptions thereof) 1880 Meade District Census lists the children of Andrew and Mary Jane Young Robinson {John A., Jacob J., Margaret, Samuel F.,William Riley, Rachel Matilda (m. Neely), and Rosanna Bell (m. Neely)} with Elijah and Mary Jane Young Robinson Gilbert #211, without noting the last name of Robinson for the children. Andrew died 1878 and wife remarried E. Gilbert. Joel M. Robinson

I've found that a mother's maiden name, usually supplied on a credit card application, is requested when inquiring about card information, such as balances and activity. I wish there were another way, too, like a PIN number. Kay

Hello Cousins, I have been reading different ones talking about the Soc. Sec. Card and how it is so much of our lives, and how if someone takes it can really raise a lot of problems. Well, one thing some of you might not think about is giving your information to the School that your children are going to. they ask you for your SS#, address, phone number, and if your children are getting help from the state you provide that to them as well, or if they get SSI if they are disabled, you give them the child SS# as well. One may think you can trust the school, but you cant. If for some reason someone who works in the school, gets mad at you, and decides to make your life miserable, well they can and I had it happen to me. The Principal of the school, took this information out of my daughters school file, and he called the welfare and told them that I was working (I am disabled since 1990) and making a lot of money each month, then call the Soc. Sec. Local office telling them the same thing. the lady from the Soc Sec. Office called me and asked me about it, I told her it was not so. And she didn't think it was. And then the Welfare I fought with them for 3 months getting this straighten out. He also called my phone company and they were shutting off my phone (called my phone company after I learned about the cable being shut off and found they were also shuting off my phone on the next day) and my tv-cable (the cable was having trouble and was called to see what the problem was, and they said it was ordered to be shut off that next day) He tried to do the water to my house I was renting, but the city would not do that since the landlord had a agreement that the water bill would be paid regardless. So don't give out any kind of information to even the schools, it just takes one dishonest person to really mess you up. I have a child that has emergencies, and I have to have a phone. And he knew this as well. He was caught discriminating against my disabled daughter, and was asked to resign, or he could be fired for it, so he resigned, and moved away to another school to pull it on some else. He just moved away with out getting into any kind of trouble. he acted as if he was part of my family, no one questioned him at all. the only reason I know who it was is because, one 3 places had this information, 1. the school, 2. the welfare 3. the Soc. Sec. office. Don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this one out. I now have a red flag on any of my accounts each one has a password that is different, that way if this ever happens to me again, I have the person red handed. be aware! Gail Meeks Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

Seems to me a better solution here is for the banks, etc. to find a better method of ID than Social Security Numbers. Used to be there was something on the card to the effect it wasn't considered valid ID. Using the mother's maiden name is certainly an outdated custom that doesn't prove anything. Some mother's are going by their maiden name. What kind of secret is that? I have run into a couple of places that ask you to provide a question the staff can ask you along with the only acceptable answer. That would be hard for anyone to steal if you pick the right question and answer that ONLY you would know. (At least till someone on their staff lifted it.) ;-} Then we could have our mother's maiden names back to use in our genealogy!! Janice

For half a dozen years, I taught basic composition courses at several prisons in the Ohio system. The guys in the honor camp at one practically made me take an oath that I would not use my SS unnecessarily. "Give me your Soc and your mother's maiden name and I will send my woman to the court house to become YOU," said the illustrated man doing 10-20. With the approach of April 15, maybe we can take heart that this year WE provide the number on the IRS return- it is no longer printed for all to see. Peg [email protected]

Check out <http://www.identitytheft.org/protect.htm> In 1992-93, I was a long-haul trucker, running team, with my husband. In 1992, the Federal Commercial Driver's License (CDL) regulations went into effect. To prevent truckers from carrying licenses from 15 or more states, we were licensed by our state, with only ONE license number: You guessed it--our federally-mandated licenses bore the only number unique to each of us: our Social Security Number. I never thought much about it, until Christmas of '93, when my purse was stolen in a truck stop restroom (my fault--I set it on top of the TP holder in the stall) and since I was in a hurry to get back on the road, and there was a waiting line outside the stall, I neglected to grab it on exit. Less than 5 minutes later, I relized it wasn't with me, and went back into the restroom to check. No luck--it was gone, along with my CDL, and my phone and credit cards. I cancelled the cards, stopped the checking account, and had to get a new CDL. Fortunately, the thief was interested only in the $40 cash I had in the wallet, and not in assuming my identity. But if that thief had been a bit more creative, she could have obtained anything she wanted, including my birth certificate, CDL, and credit history, simply by utilizing my SSN. Since then, Arkansas has stopped using SSN's as CDL numbers. I was very lucky, but was dismayed to learn, two months ago, that WV DMV still demands a person's SSN. I refused to allow it to be placed on my license, but most people do not even question, much less, understand, what a clear and present danger exists, in divulging their SSN's in such a public forum. This is not paranoia, folks--once your SSN goes into ANY computer, you lose control over who has access to your life. The clerk who enters it, cannot vouch for the integrity of others who have access to the system. And computer systems are linked, so you have no idea where that info is going. All it takes, to get a SS card in your name, is the info on your birth certificate. And if your full name and birthdate are out here, on the web, in published genealogy files, your life is fair game for the identity thief. Charles & Carolyn Miller wrote: > > I have to agree with Linda and Peg on this one, also. Carolyn >

Julie, thanks! I forwarded your email to my entire list of researchers because I think you have brought it home for the reasons for the cutoff date. Thanks again. Carolyn ---------- > From: Hesson, Julie <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Age cut off --long, but important info > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 6:05 PM > > Check out <http://www.identitytheft.org/protect.htm> > > In 1992-93, I was a long-haul trucker, running team, with my husband. > In 1992, the Federal Commercial Driver's License (CDL) regulations went > into effect. To prevent truckers from carrying licenses from 15 or more > states, we were licensed by our state, with only ONE license number: You > guessed it--our federally-mandated licenses bore the only number unique > to each of us: our Social Security Number. > > I never thought much about it, until Christmas of '93, when my purse > was stolen in a truck stop restroom (my fault--I set it on top of the TP > holder in the stall) and since I was in a hurry to get back on the road, > and there was a waiting line outside the stall, I neglected to grab it > on exit. Less than 5 minutes later, I relized it wasn't with me, and > went back into the restroom to check. No luck--it was gone, along with > my CDL, and my phone and credit cards. > > I cancelled the cards, stopped the checking account, and had to get a > new CDL. Fortunately, the thief was interested only in the $40 cash I > had in the wallet, and not in assuming my identity. But if that thief > had been a bit more creative, she could have obtained anything she > wanted, including my birth certificate, CDL, and credit history, simply > by utilizing my SSN. Since then, Arkansas has stopped using SSN's as CDL > numbers. > > I was very lucky, but was dismayed to learn, two months ago, that WV > DMV still demands a person's SSN. I refused to allow it to be placed on > my license, but most people do not even question, much less, understand, > what a clear and present danger exists, in divulging their SSN's in such > a public forum. This is not paranoia, folks--once your SSN goes into ANY > computer, you lose control over who has access to your life. The clerk > who enters it, cannot vouch for the integrity of others who have access > to the system. And computer systems are linked, so you have no idea > where that info is going. > > All it takes, to get a SS card in your name, is the info on your birth > certificate. And if your full name and birthdate are out here, on the > web, in published genealogy files, your life is fair game for the > identity thief. > > Charles & Carolyn Miller wrote: > > > > I have to agree with Linda and Peg on this one, also. Carolyn > > >

Those of us with WV roots are quite likely to abhor any thing imposed upon us by the Feds. It's in our blood! However, I will concur with Linda's decision, which closely parallels the 72 years sealing of census records. Frustrating as the Soundex/Miracode cards may be, the cross-referencing aspect may be of some use when family members were farmed out to neighbors, church members, or simply as orphans. I am always surprised how often the birth surname was retained. Peg [email protected]

I have to agree with Linda and Peg on this one, also. Carolyn ---------- > From: Peg Duffy <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Age cut off > Date: Tuesday, March 30, 1999 1:11 PM > > Those of us with WV roots are quite likely to abhor any thing imposed > upon us by the Feds. It's in our blood! However, I will concur with > Linda's decision, which closely parallels the 72 years sealing of census > records. > > Frustrating as the Soundex/Miracode cards may be, the cross-referencing > aspect may be of some use when family members were farmed out to > neighbors, church members, or simply as orphans. I am always surprised > how often the birth surname was retained. > Peg > [email protected] >

Dear Linda, If you please, here is another view. I am a 45yr old only off-spring. My parents died nearly 40 years ago, my grandparents died 60-20 years ago, and my great-granparents have been dead since WWII era. Since my ancestors were raised by non-immediate family, I have had a very hard time even finding my grandparents names. Please, keep an open mind on limiting dates. Thank you. Sincerely, a possible Marshall County cousin, Barb

This is a good deal--they have so many for sale, cheap, because only a few of us (me included) coughed up the original price of $75 per set. And I coughed it up TWICE--one set for my own use, and one I donated to my local library's genealogical collection. Julie

>>While looking at a website called eBay, I found a "West Virginia Genealogy >>Source-Census 1880" for sale. Thought this might be of interest to >someone. >>I have no connections in West Virginia but hope it will help someone. LAURA >> > >

To Whom it May Concern: I just called the tole free number 1-800-867-2698 and asked about this 6.0 Version. It was Parsons Technology, A Broderbund Company, 1700 Progress Drive, PO Box 100, Hiawatha, IA 52233-9904. I had received in the mail a Renewal Notice and notified that the cost would be $19.99 plus $4.95 S&P. When I asked whether there would be a problem in installation, etc. he could not answer me. I had only gotten Version 5 for a Christmas Gift, and like it so far. I have had PAF for years, but I believe I like this one best. I don't see what could be wrong with #5 - but then I haven't had a chance to do much with it. I like it better than PAF from LDS. When I asked my question to the Salesperson, he said they had just received them; had been getting a lot of calls asking questions that he was unable to answer at this time. He said they have not been furnished enough information as yet. So if you want to call, wait awhile. This offer of reduced price is supposed to be good until 4/30/99. Hope this helps. Clarice Stanley

Here we go again. I'm the guy who said he hates upgrades, who probably wouldn't upgrade to a new version of Family Tree Maker, as I am (was) satisfied with version 4.0b. I'd heard/read about bugs in version 5 and opted not to upgrade. Then the publisher sends me a flyer on version 6.0, with some promises of flashy new features, and hints that the bugs from version 5 have been fixed. Anyone have any experience with FTM 6.0, care to offer a judgment on whether it's worth the $29.95 upgrade cost? (I'm more unlikely to change to some other software entirely, as I'm not dissatisfied with FTM, merely wondering about upgrading at this time.) jim + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + - James Wiley, AKA [email protected]

Hi: Reply to Virginia Kelly's query about the Marshall Courthouse. I am the President of the Wetzel Co. Gen. Society, live in New Martinsville about 26 miles south of Moundsville. Just wanted to let you know that Marshall Co. marriage records has been copied by Wes Cochran, 2515 Tenth Ave. Parkersburg, WV 26101 and is for sale for $12.00. It covers the years from 1835-1889. Sincerely, Carol Hassig [email protected] ovis.net -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, March 23, 1999 5:55 PM Subject: WVMARSHA-D Digest V99 #68

Does anyone know anything about the family of William Henry NACE, who was b. 2 Feb 1866, md. Elizabeth WICKLEIN?? William was living in California possibly around 1940. Was the son of William Franklin NACE and Mary STALEY. Mary EARLE Garrison Little Rock AR [email protected]

The Marshall Co. courthouse is on Seventh St., Moundsville, WV 26041. I don't know the the exact address, but the number for the county clerk's office is 304-845-1220.

Where can I find the marriage licenses of 1890's and 1900's in Marshall Co. especially around the Moundsville area. I am hunting for Margaret Caton Mead a widow in 1880 census and her daughter Mary Mead age 6 in the 1880 census living in the Union District . At that time they were living with the father and gr.f.He was age 51. Is there any where I might find when he died if I don't have a date. Silly question isn't it. I live in W. Md.(Frostburg) if I want to search records for myself where would I start.. Virginia W. Kelly [email protected]

EFAW, HOSKINSON My ancestor Joshua GODDARD m: Margaret EFAW [1788-]. Her parents were David EFAW and Catherine HOSKINSON. Joshua was born in PA. He died in Wetzel co., VA. He came to Proctor, Creek area of Wetzel co. from Greene Co., PA in 1836. Need info on parents of David EFAW and Catherine HOSKINSON. Will be happy to exchange info on all families. Marilyn [email protected]

The Morris's are family down line of my GGGAunt Lucy Spragg. MCCRACKEN< either HENRY OR MCHENRY also.....Gumps another. Henry Huffman dcd 1811-2 wife Catrouch (catherine) Fry Huffman had Henry b 1803 m to Elizabeth HIGGINS, dau Lucy m Uriah SPRAGG.Greene Co PA. Almost all of her children stayed or went to this area. I found two GGGRandchildren in Chester PA but they do not respond to calls or letters. When some one from there contacted them, they thought it was some mortician gimmick.. Boo hooo hoo. I know I have a picture of Lucy here but would like to confirm which is her and which is Keziah Hickman (Hoffman HUffman) and which is Lucy( Hoffman Huffman )Spragg. Any one out there know these people would love to hear from you. [email protected]