Joel, I just told my daughter about the connection to Obama's ancestor and she is very skeptical. The website seems to be accurate, what do you think? Do you really think it is accurate? I would appreciate your opinion. I am rather certain that I am descended from William Crabtree I and Jane Halstead. They were my 6th great grandparents and Obama's 8th great grandparents if the website is accurate. Thanks, Vernia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hager, Joel G Mr CIV USA USAMC" <joel.hager@us.army.mil> To: "'Vernia Brooks (Yahoo)'" <vlbbrooks@yahoo.com>; <wvlogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel > Well hello Vernia! > > I do not know who my Browning and Crabtree ancestors are. Alexander > Buchanan m. Nancy Crabtree. Both died in Logan County after 1860. > William > Browning m. Catherine Anglin and he died before 1850 in Logan County and > Catherine died aft. 1860 in Wyoming County. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Vernia Brooks (Yahoo) > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:41 PM > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel > > Hi Joel, I checked the website you mentioned about Barack Obama's > ancestors. > > I am also descended from the same Crabtrees. I am not quite as thrilled > with this information as I was to find out we have a distant connection to > George Washington through our Ball ancestors. I also did not realize you > and I were distant cousins. > > I have not shared this latest information with anyone in my family. Some > will be delighted, others will be greatly distressed and yet others will > be > amused with the information. And so, family history rolls on. Thanks, I > think, Vernia > > >> Judi, >> >> I did a Google search and found President Obama's Browning ancestors. He >> is >> also related to my Crabtree Ancestors through the Welborn, Wilson and >> McCurry connection. >> >> http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html >> >> Joel >> >> 1. Anna Browning-[224834],1 daughter of James Browning-[217728] and >> Susannah Hickman-[30979], was born about 1778 in Culpeper County, >> Virginia > >> 1 >> and died in Y. >> >> Anna married Robert Overall-[30621] [MRIN: 46249], son of John >> Overall-[349206] and Frances Whitledge-[349207], on 12 Mar 1801. Robert >> was >> born about 1770 and died about 1835 in Y about age 65. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 2 M i. George Washington Overall-[349192] was born >> on 4 Jul 1820 in Bullitt County, Kentucky and died on 9 Jan 1871 in >> Nelson >> County, Kentucky at age 50. >> >> George married Louisianna Duvall-[349193] [MRIN: 125913] (b. 26 Mar 1826) >> on >> 22 Dec 1841 in Nelson County, Kentucky. >> >> Second Generation (Children) >> >> 2. George Washington Overall-[349192] (Anna 1) was born on 4 Jul 1820 in >> Bullitt County, Kentucky and died on 9 Jan 1871 in Nelson County, >> Kentucky >> at age 50. >> >> George married Louisianna Duvall-[349193] [MRIN: 125913] on 22 Dec 1841 >> in >> Nelson County, Kentucky. Louisianna was born on 26 Mar 1826 in Nelson >> County, Kentucky. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 3 F i. Susan Catherine Overall-[349194] was born on >> 8 Jun 1849 in Nelson County, Kentucky and died on 20 Feb 1906 at age 56. >> >> Susan married Benjamin F. Payne-[349195] [MRIN: 125914] (b. 30 Apr 1839, >> d. >> 15 Apr 1878) on 14 Feb 1860. >> >> Third Generation (Grandchildren) >> >> 3. Susan Catherine Overall-[349194] (George Washington 2, Anna 1) was >> born >> on 8 Jun 1849 in Nelson County, Kentucky and died on 20 Feb 1906 at age >> 56. >> >> Susan married Benjamin F. Payne-[349195] [MRIN: 125914] on 14 Feb 1860. >> Benjamin was born on 30 Apr 1839 in Missouri and died on 15 Apr 1878 in >> Knox >> County, Missouri at age 38. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 4 M i. Charles Thomas Payne-[349196] was born in >> Nov 1861 in Missouri and died on 14 Feb 1940 in Kansas City, Kansas at >> age >> 78. >> >> Charles married Della L. Wolfley-[349197] [MRIN: 125915] (b. May 1863, d. >> 7 >> May 1906) on 14 Jan 1889 in Johnson County, Kansas. >> >> Fourth Generation (Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 4. Charles Thomas Payne-[349196] (Susan Catherine Overall 3, George >> Washington 2, Anna 1) was born in Nov 1861 in Missouri and died on 14 Feb >> 1940 in Kansas City, Kansas at age 78. >> >> Charles married Della L. Wolfley-[349197] [MRIN: 125915] on 14 Jan 1889 >> in >> Johnson County, Kansas. Della was born in May 1863 in Ohio and died on 7 >> May >> 1906 in Lenexa, Johnson County, Kansas at age 43. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 5 M i. Rolla Charles Payne-[349198] was born on 23 >> Aug 1892 in Olathe, Kansas and died on 15 Oct 1968 in Winfield, Kansas at >> age 76. >> >> Rolla married Leona B. McCurry-[349199] [MRIN: 125916] (b. 7 May 1897, d. >> 23 >> Mar 1968) on 28 Dec 1921 in Independence, Kansas. >> >> Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 5. Rolla Charles Payne-[349198] (Charles Thomas Payne 4, Susan Catherine >> Overall 3, George Washington 2, Anna 1) was born on 23 Aug 1892 in >> Olathe, >> Kansas and died on 15 Oct 1968 in Winfield, Kansas at age 76. >> >> Rolla married Leona B. McCurry-[349199] [MRIN: 125916], daughter of >> Thomas >> Creekmore McCurry-[349216] and Margaret Belle Wright-[349217], on 28 Dec >> 1921 in Independence, Kansas. Leona was born on 7 May 1897 in Peru, >> Kansas >> and died on 23 Mar 1968 in Winfield, Kansas at age 70. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 6 F i. Madelyn Lee Payne-[349200] was born on 26 >> Oct 1922 in Peru, Kansas and died on 2 Nov 2008 in Honolulu, Hawaii at >> age >> 86. >> >> Madelyn married Stanley Armour Dunham-[349201] [MRIN: 125917] (b. 23 Mar >> 1918, d. 8 Feb 1992) on 4 May 1940 in Eldorado, Kansas. >> >> Sixth Generation (3rd Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 6. Madelyn Lee Payne-[349200] (Rolla Charles Payne 5, Charles Thomas >> Payne >> 4, Susan Catherine Overall 3, George Washington 2, Anna 1) was born on 26 >> Oct 1922 in Peru, Kansas and died on 2 Nov 2008 in Honolulu, Hawaii at >> age >> 86. >> >> Madelyn married Stanley Armour Dunham-[349201] [MRIN: 125917] on 4 May >> 1940 >> in Eldorado, Kansas. Stanley was born on 23 Mar 1918 in Wichita, Kansas >> and >> died on 8 Feb 1992 in Honolulu, Hawaii at age 73. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 7 F i. Ann Dunham-[349202] was born on 29 Nov 1942 >> in Witchita, Kansas and died on 7 Nov 1995 in Honolulu, Hawaii at age 52. >> >> Ann married Barack Hussein Obama-[349203] [MRIN: 125918] (b. Abt 1936, d. >> Abt 1982) on 2 Feb 1961 in Maui, Hawaii. >> >> Seventh Generation (4th Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 7. Ann Dunham-[349202] (Madelyn Lee Payne 6, Rolla Charles Payne 5, >> Charles >> Thomas Payne 4, Susan Catherine Overall 3, George Washington 2, Anna 1) >> was >> born on 29 Nov 1942 in Witchita, Kansas and died on 7 Nov 1995 in >> Honolulu, >> Hawaii at age 52. >> >> Ann married Barack Hussein Obama-[349203] [MRIN: 125918] on 2 Feb 1961 in >> Maui, Hawaii. Barack was born about 1936 in Alego, Kenya and died about >> 1982 >> in Nairobi, Kenya about age 46. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> 8 M i. Barack Hussein Obama-[349204] was born on 4 >> Aug 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii. >> >> Barack married Michelle LaVaughn Robinson-[349205] [MRIN: 125919] on 3 >> Oct >> 1992 in Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. >> Michelle was born on 17 Jan 1964 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of judinclark@sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:45 PM >> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel >> >> Same here, I was beginning to worry about all of you. >> Let us see how the roll call goes. >> Did you receive my q about the Browning's and President line last week? >> I sort of thought you might have the answer. >> Judi >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

Vernia, I do not know as this is the research of others. It does look possible. Joel -----Original Message----- From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Vernia Brooks (Yahoo) Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:28 PM To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel Joel, I just told my daughter about the connection to Obama's ancestor and she is very skeptical. The website seems to be accurate, what do you think? Do you really think it is accurate? I would appreciate your opinion. I am rather certain that I am descended from William Crabtree I and Jane Halstead. They were my 6th great grandparents and Obama's 8th great grandparents if the website is accurate. Thanks, Vernia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hager, Joel G Mr CIV USA USAMC" <joel.hager@us.army.mil> To: "'Vernia Brooks (Yahoo)'" <vlbbrooks@yahoo.com>; <wvlogan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel > Well hello Vernia! > > I do not know who my Browning and Crabtree ancestors are. Alexander > Buchanan m. Nancy Crabtree. Both died in Logan County after 1860. > William > Browning m. Catherine Anglin and he died before 1850 in Logan County and > Catherine died aft. 1860 in Wyoming County. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On > Behalf Of Vernia Brooks (Yahoo) > Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2009 5:41 PM > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel > > Hi Joel, I checked the website you mentioned about Barack Obama's > ancestors. > > I am also descended from the same Crabtrees. I am not quite as thrilled > with this information as I was to find out we have a distant connection to > George Washington through our Ball ancestors. I also did not realize you > and I were distant cousins. > > I have not shared this latest information with anyone in my family. Some > will be delighted, others will be greatly distressed and yet others will > be > amused with the information. And so, family history rolls on. Thanks, I > think, Vernia > > >> Judi, >> >> I did a Google search and found President Obama's Browning ancestors. He >> is >> also related to my Crabtree Ancestors through the Welborn, Wilson and >> McCurry connection. >> >> http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html >> >> Joel >> >> 1. Anna Browning-[224834],1 daughter of James Browning-[217728] and >> Susannah Hickman-[30979], was born about 1778 in Culpeper County, >> Virginia > >> 1 >> and died in Y. >> >> Anna married Robert Overall-[30621] [MRIN: 46249], son of John >> Overall-[349206] and Frances Whitledge-[349207], on 12 Mar 1801. Robert >> was >> born about 1770 and died about 1835 in Y about age 65. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 2 M i. George Washington Overall-[349192] was born >> on 4 Jul 1820 in Bullitt County, Kentucky and died on 9 Jan 1871 in >> Nelson >> County, Kentucky at age 50. >> >> George married Louisianna Duvall-[349193] [MRIN: 125913] (b. 26 Mar 1826) >> on >> 22 Dec 1841 in Nelson County, Kentucky. >> >> Second Generation (Children) >> >> 2. George Washington Overall-[349192] (Anna 1) was born on 4 Jul 1820 in >> Bullitt County, Kentucky and died on 9 Jan 1871 in Nelson County, >> Kentucky >> at age 50. >> >> George married Louisianna Duvall-[349193] [MRIN: 125913] on 22 Dec 1841 >> in >> Nelson County, Kentucky. Louisianna was born on 26 Mar 1826 in Nelson >> County, Kentucky. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 3 F i. Susan Catherine Overall-[349194] was born on >> 8 Jun 1849 in Nelson County, Kentucky and died on 20 Feb 1906 at age 56. >> >> Susan married Benjamin F. Payne-[349195] [MRIN: 125914] (b. 30 Apr 1839, >> d. >> 15 Apr 1878) on 14 Feb 1860. >> >> Third Generation (Grandchildren) >> >> 3. Susan Catherine Overall-[349194] (George Washington 2, Anna 1) was >> born >> on 8 Jun 1849 in Nelson County, Kentucky and died on 20 Feb 1906 at age >> 56. >> >> Susan married Benjamin F. Payne-[349195] [MRIN: 125914] on 14 Feb 1860. >> Benjamin was born on 30 Apr 1839 in Missouri and died on 15 Apr 1878 in >> Knox >> County, Missouri at age 38. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 4 M i. Charles Thomas Payne-[349196] was born in >> Nov 1861 in Missouri and died on 14 Feb 1940 in Kansas City, Kansas at >> age >> 78. >> >> Charles married Della L. Wolfley-[349197] [MRIN: 125915] (b. May 1863, d. >> 7 >> May 1906) on 14 Jan 1889 in Johnson County, Kansas. >> >> Fourth Generation (Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 4. Charles Thomas Payne-[349196] (Susan Catherine Overall 3, George >> Washington 2, Anna 1) was born in Nov 1861 in Missouri and died on 14 Feb >> 1940 in Kansas City, Kansas at age 78. >> >> Charles married Della L. Wolfley-[349197] [MRIN: 125915] on 14 Jan 1889 >> in >> Johnson County, Kansas. Della was born in May 1863 in Ohio and died on 7 >> May >> 1906 in Lenexa, Johnson County, Kansas at age 43. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 5 M i. Rolla Charles Payne-[349198] was born on 23 >> Aug 1892 in Olathe, Kansas and died on 15 Oct 1968 in Winfield, Kansas at >> age 76. >> >> Rolla married Leona B. McCurry-[349199] [MRIN: 125916] (b. 7 May 1897, d. >> 23 >> Mar 1968) on 28 Dec 1921 in Independence, Kansas. >> >> Fifth Generation (Great Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 5. Rolla Charles Payne-[349198] (Charles Thomas Payne 4, Susan Catherine >> Overall 3, George Washington 2, Anna 1) was born on 23 Aug 1892 in >> Olathe, >> Kansas and died on 15 Oct 1968 in Winfield, Kansas at age 76. >> >> Rolla married Leona B. McCurry-[349199] [MRIN: 125916], daughter of >> Thomas >> Creekmore McCurry-[349216] and Margaret Belle Wright-[349217], on 28 Dec >> 1921 in Independence, Kansas. Leona was born on 7 May 1897 in Peru, >> Kansas >> and died on 23 Mar 1968 in Winfield, Kansas at age 70. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 6 F i. Madelyn Lee Payne-[349200] was born on 26 >> Oct 1922 in Peru, Kansas and died on 2 Nov 2008 in Honolulu, Hawaii at >> age >> 86. >> >> Madelyn married Stanley Armour Dunham-[349201] [MRIN: 125917] (b. 23 Mar >> 1918, d. 8 Feb 1992) on 4 May 1940 in Eldorado, Kansas. >> >> Sixth Generation (3rd Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 6. Madelyn Lee Payne-[349200] (Rolla Charles Payne 5, Charles Thomas >> Payne >> 4, Susan Catherine Overall 3, George Washington 2, Anna 1) was born on 26 >> Oct 1922 in Peru, Kansas and died on 2 Nov 2008 in Honolulu, Hawaii at >> age >> 86. >> >> Madelyn married Stanley Armour Dunham-[349201] [MRIN: 125917] on 4 May >> 1940 >> in Eldorado, Kansas. Stanley was born on 23 Mar 1918 in Wichita, Kansas >> and >> died on 8 Feb 1992 in Honolulu, Hawaii at age 73. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> + 7 F i. Ann Dunham-[349202] was born on 29 Nov 1942 >> in Witchita, Kansas and died on 7 Nov 1995 in Honolulu, Hawaii at age 52. >> >> Ann married Barack Hussein Obama-[349203] [MRIN: 125918] (b. Abt 1936, d. >> Abt 1982) on 2 Feb 1961 in Maui, Hawaii. >> >> Seventh Generation (4th Great-Grandchildren) >> >> 7. Ann Dunham-[349202] (Madelyn Lee Payne 6, Rolla Charles Payne 5, >> Charles >> Thomas Payne 4, Susan Catherine Overall 3, George Washington 2, Anna 1) >> was >> born on 29 Nov 1942 in Witchita, Kansas and died on 7 Nov 1995 in >> Honolulu, >> Hawaii at age 52. >> >> Ann married Barack Hussein Obama-[349203] [MRIN: 125918] on 2 Feb 1961 in >> Maui, Hawaii. Barack was born about 1936 in Alego, Kenya and died about >> 1982 >> in Nairobi, Kenya about age 46. >> >> The child from this marriage was: >> >> 8 M i. Barack Hussein Obama-[349204] was born on 4 >> Aug 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii. >> >> Barack married Michelle LaVaughn Robinson-[349205] [MRIN: 125919] on 3 >> Oct >> 1992 in Trinity United Church of Christ, Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. >> Michelle was born on 17 Jan 1964 in Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On >> Behalf Of judinclark@sbcglobal.net >> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 4:45 PM >> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] test re Joel >> >> Same here, I was beginning to worry about all of you. >> Let us see how the roll call goes. >> Did you receive my q about the Browning's and President line last week? >> I sort of thought you might have the answer. >> Judi >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message