Stanley, I enjoyed reading about the apple butter making. I have had the occasion to make apple butter. A women from my church, (deceased now) would have the women and men of our church do an apple butter stir every October. This year I was unable to get the people involved. It is a very time consuming and laborious job, but I thoroughly enjoy every minute of it. The most precious is the time spent with friends. My kids have also had the pleasure of stirring the apple butter, so they know what it is like. I don't think they would call it a pleasure though. Jane in Lorain OH