dkb wrote: Let's face it a book on the Vance family would never make the New York Times List. Gosh, if what I have been reading about Abner Vance and family is true, someone would make a movie about it. Whew!!!!!! Blew my mind!! I was researching Barbara Miller and James Howard Vance Jr (my mother's 2nd ggrand aunt and uncle). Am wondering if anyone could tell me who James Howard's parents were, for sure. Barbara was daughter of: Micheal Miller and Mary Elizabeth Smith, if I have all this right. Who, btw, were my mom's 3rd ggrandparents. That is what my tree program tells me anyway. G