Well Jim I offered to help write the book with guidance, never thinking of making a profit. Let's face it a book on the Vance family would never make the New York Times List. So I will kindly stick to my own book. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] A few thoughts concerning writing books or booklets on Logan County Families > Dear Logan County Genealogist and Family, > > We do not have to write books that are huge. We do need to write books or > "booklets" that are accurate and true! > > I have written several books and do not think I have made much money > on any thing. > > All of the money that I have received from Burgess, Mullins, Browning, > Brown and Allied families has gone to fund my family history library. > I have about 300 pretty good books in my library. > > It would be great if a new researcher could go to Logan or Wyoming or > Boone County and see several books on families of Logan County. We > have done the work. Why not share. > > We could find out if the libraries would be willing to purchase what > we do. > > Some families are huge and some are quite small. With all the records > we have from Ancestry and each other we can do a very nice job with > our records. > > One of the concerns I have is that some seem to want to hold back on their > research. We tend to send out small tidbits of information that really do > not help others. > > We should tell people where the records came from. We have the following > sources for Logan County (partial) > > All Census Records > Birth records 1853-1860 > Birth Records 1872 1900 (or what ever) > Marriage Dates > Death Dates > WWI registration records > Personal family knowledge > History of Logan County > Sigfus Olafson and Dave Turner's annotations > On line death records > Some Cemetery records > & lots of other records > > Some people seem to be better at writing than others. > Some do not have an interest. > Some would do a good job proof reading and adding information. > > Seems like we could organize our selves and do this. > > I am very concerned about the lack of interest in the 1850 Census project > in > that > we had few participants. > > I am not sure how many people we have on the list. Does any one know? > > How many people are willing to do a book? > > How many are willing to proof read a book? > > For Jim Burgess I commit to do the following: > > William Burgess and Susanna of Bedford County, Virginia > Toler Families of Southwest Virginia - Descendants of David Toler and > Susanna > > Other I am interested in or would be willing to contribute > > Descendants of Nathaniel Mullins and Margaret Peggy Wilson > Descendants of Abner Vance and Susanna Howard > James Brown and Esther Gough (which would include Brown descendants) > > The Abner Vance family is so huge that we could divide it into all of his > sons > and daughers. > > Several on the list would purchase them from others. > > I would be very willing to add information that I may have in my library. > > We need to pay attention and help others if we can. > > We could co author a book. > > I sincerely hope that several members on the list will volunteer to do > something > on atleast on of their families. > > If we know that some one is working on a family we could have those who > subscribe > to Ancestry send information to the person working on a particular family. > > We do not have to be alone in this. > > Any comments? > > thanks > Jim Burgess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:41 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going > to be bigger than the Burgess Family > > > Jim, I agree with you completely on more books being written. Even if > there are some mistakes, as long as it is noted that some information > might > need more research. I don't think a thing about sharing what I am sure > about > with most researchers. I figure that the more people who have the correct > information, the better. > > At one time, I set up for family home pages to print out. I don't know > if I did it wrong but when my printer program hit 10,000 pages, I shut it > off. I still don't understand why the number went that high because I only > had about 4,000 people in my files. Mayby it was going to include all the > notes which have personal e-mails included. > > Anyway, right now all my research is in computer(no burner) and on > GenCircles for safekeeping. I would love to put it in book form but really > don't know how to do that yet. Guess I should take a class or something. > I should mention something that I didn't know before. CDs only last about > ten years at the most in prime > conditions. So they need to be updated long before that. > > I also would love to find a copy of the Hager Family History book that > was written in McPherson Co., Kansas. Have not found that one yet. > Somewhere > hidden in puter is the name of the person that compiled that book. > Probably > in my e-mail program. > > I am close to figuring out exactly when my gggrandfather, George > Washington Hager, [s/o John Morgan and > Elizabeth Jane (Miller) Hager] died. (BTW, John Morgan WAS a Major, that > was not his first name.) I recently got the probate records for both > George > W. Hager and Eliza Ann (Baisden) Hager. Proof in those that his doctor was > the father in law of his son William McDaniel. I was amazed at how long > it > took to finish the probate because of the traveling judge at the time. > Over > three years for both. > > Well, enough for now. > > Gracie in Okla. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:56 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going to be > bigger than the Burgess Family > > >> Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and cousins, >> >> I am trying to figure out how big the Toler file is going to be. >> >> I never dreamed that I could find as many Toler Descendants of David >> Toler >> and Susanna as I did for William Burgess and Susann of Bedford County, >> Virginia. >> >> The Burgess file has approximately 725 pages. >> >> The Toler file tonight has 425 pages of information and I have not even >> begun. >> It is a little discouraging to think how many pages I am going to have on >> the Toler >> family. >> >> Nathaniel Mullins file is about 250 (not near as big as the others) >> Have not begun! >> >> William Browning and Catherine Anglin is approximately 325 - I stopped to >> work on the >> Toler Family. >> >> Abner Vance and Susanna Howard (who knows - It must be the biggest by > far) >> >> Burgess, Mullins, Browning, Brown and Allied Families was around 300 > pages. >> >> I thought it was a good book - I guess it was for 1978. >> >> Just imagine if we wrote the book today it would have over 2500 (maybe > over >> 3,000) pages of information. >> >> Hard to believe that we have had such an explosion of information since >> 1978. >> >> I believe with a lot of work there could be a 1,000 pages of information > on >> each of these >> families except for the Mullins family which was a small family all >> things >> considered! >> >> If my health holds out I would like to go back to West Virginia to >> contact >> family >> that lives there in about 5 years. >> >> I need a gate keeper to take this project before I kick off! >> >> _______ >> >> Just a thought it would be great if a lot of people on the list would >> work >> on putting >> all the descendants of their Logan County Ancestors in a book or on a web >> site or on a data >> base that could be shared with future generations! >> >> At the very least I am going to print these booklets out and donate them > to >> the libaries >> in Logan and Wyoming Counties and the Geneaogical Societies. >> >> I would like to see families that are close to my families the Perry, >> Hinchman, White, >> Hager, Walker, Cook, Blankenship, Belcher, Grimmett, Bailey, Cline, > Dempsey, >> Combs, Jarrell, Smith, Cow Creek Brownings, Robinett. The list could be a >> super list. >> >> The list could be just a big as you can make it. >> >> It is better than watching the boob tube! >> >> Should we save this information for future generations? >> What are we going to leave them? >> >> Does anyone else want to work on their families? >> >> I would like for our grand children and great grand children to return to >> Logan County >> and fine 100 books on the early families of Logan County, West Virginia. >> >> I thought the Census project was a great idea. I think this is an even >> better idea. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

If it counts for anything, I am EXTREMELY grateful for the people who write their family history. I would have never found anything out about my daddy's mothers family if someone had not written a book for my grandmother's mother lost her husband when my grandmother was 6 mos old. My gr grandmother then moved to another state and remarried. I will probably never know who my great grandad was for I do not know his first name and I have never gotten any responses except how to look him up which is appreciated........1890.....does that explain things. I have been blessed with the detailed info on many tombstones where my many family lines have been buried for over 100 years, also. I was overwhelmed when I found a huge book about my dad's other side. I am glad to share with anyone. I need to send what I have when someone writes me which I usually do. My computer crashed and it has taken me years to get things back on and still not finished. That is a lesson in you should backup information almost daily. I have searched for the last backup and have not found the latest. I learned to never give up hope when putting a query in a newspaper or other methods for after many months after placing the request I got a call from a lady who owned the land where my great great grandparents on my gr grandmother's side and other family members were buried. They cleared the land each year and they and their five children and families plan to be buried there. I asked her to have the genealogical society to read it and it now published. So now I have another reference. I do like to share for everyone knows a different part of the family history. I do not just copy what they have written as "the word", but I then go and research and make sure it is correct. I have had some people who would not recognize that we descended from the same line for as many as 10 plus years and all of a sudden they get the connection and give me a call. I have given everything I have on each family line as someone asks especially to the younger ones who are anxious to find out info and research. I have just asked that they share with me. Most have, but some have put it on the internet as their research which is my fault for I did not put it on there first, but many have given me credit which I appreciate. I discovered that I did have many things wrong and I took it off to correct for like most of us work late at night and have had 5 back surgeries and the usual other life stuff the past 10 years plus and I admit I make mistakes, but hopefully I catch them or people will catch them for me and let me know. If we dont work together there is so much that will never be known. I would just appreciate it if someone doesnt want to share if they will just give me a county or state or name and let me go after it. It would be terrible if people did not write books and have them placed in the libraries to share. They are giving a piece of history that will be preserved forever. I am not intelligent enough to write a book although it would be fun, but I would like to have as much info as I could before making a book so would never make it possible. HA! My next project is to learn to scan...found my directions again. I hope this will help those who want to share and those who do not want to share think about how it helps others as well as themselves. My gr grandad Vance died when I was 20. He was my idol. I only wish that I had listened to his stories more and recorded them. Cheryl Walters Parr Dorthea Jean Bradford Lorena Maye Vance b 02 Jan 1905 Garner TX Parker CO (bet. Mineral Wells/Weatherford and now almost considered a suburb of Ft Worth TX for the growth is unbelievable.) James Alexander "Jim" Vance b 14 Jun 1871 Sturgeon MO Boone CO (The family had been in Knox CO, Jefferson CO, etc but they moved to MO apparently during CW for many had land was on the Holston River in Strawberry Plains TN, but they returned aft war to TN: there were Steele, Wilmuth, Chidester, and other families that moved there also) John Vance b 20 Mar 1849 Strawberry Plains (Mossie Creek) TN Jefferson CO James Vance Jr b 07 Dec 1811 TN PA IRELAND James Vance Sr b 05 Mar 1773 PA Patrick Vance b abt 1747 Donegal Ireland dkb <dkb@greenapple.com> wrote: Well Jim I offered to help write the book with guidance, never thinking of making a profit. Let's face it a book on the Vance family would never make the New York Times List. So I will kindly stick to my own book. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] A few thoughts concerning writing books or booklets on Logan County Families > Dear Logan County Genealogist and Family, > > We do not have to write books that are huge. We do need to write books or > "booklets" that are accurate and true! > > I have written several books and do not think I have made much money > on any thing. > > All of the money that I have received from Burgess, Mullins, Browning, > Brown and Allied families has gone to fund my family history library. > I have about 300 pretty good books in my library. > > It would be great if a new researcher could go to Logan or Wyoming or > Boone County and see several books on families of Logan County. We > have done the work. Why not share. > > We could find out if the libraries would be willing to purchase what > we do. > > Some families are huge and some are quite small. With all the records > we have from Ancestry and each other we can do a very nice job with > our records. > > One of the concerns I have is that some seem to want to hold back on their > research. We tend to send out small tidbits of information that really do > not help others. > > We should tell people where the records came from. We have the following > sources for Logan County (partial) > > All Census Records > Birth records 1853-1860 > Birth Records 1872 1900 (or what ever) > Marriage Dates > Death Dates > WWI registration records > Personal family knowledge > History of Logan County > Sigfus Olafson and Dave Turner's annotations > On line death records > Some Cemetery records > & lots of other records > > Some people seem to be better at writing than others. > Some do not have an interest. > Some would do a good job proof reading and adding information. > > Seems like we could organize our selves and do this. > > I am very concerned about the lack of interest in the 1850 Census project > in > that > we had few participants. > > I am not sure how many people we have on the list. Does any one know? > > How many people are willing to do a book? > > How many are willing to proof read a book? > > For Jim Burgess I commit to do the following: > > William Burgess and Susanna of Bedford County, Virginia > Toler Families of Southwest Virginia - Descendants of David Toler and > Susanna > > Other I am interested in or would be willing to contribute > > Descendants of Nathaniel Mullins and Margaret Peggy Wilson > Descendants of Abner Vance and Susanna Howard > James Brown and Esther Gough (which would include Brown descendants) > > The Abner Vance family is so huge that we could divide it into all of his > sons > and daughers. > > Several on the list would purchase them from others. > > I would be very willing to add information that I may have in my library. > > We need to pay attention and help others if we can. > > We could co author a book. > > I sincerely hope that several members on the list will volunteer to do > something > on atleast on of their families. > > If we know that some one is working on a family we could have those who > subscribe > to Ancestry send information to the person working on a particular family. > > We do not have to be alone in this. > > Any comments? > > thanks > Jim Burgess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:41 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going > to be bigger than the Burgess Family > > > Jim, I agree with you completely on more books being written. Even if > there are some mistakes, as long as it is noted that some information > might > need more research. I don't think a thing about sharing what I am sure > about > with most researchers. I figure that the more people who have the correct > information, the better. > > At one time, I set up for family home pages to print out. I don't know > if I did it wrong but when my printer program hit 10,000 pages, I shut it > off. I still don't understand why the number went that high because I only > had about 4,000 people in my files. Mayby it was going to include all the > notes which have personal e-mails included. > > Anyway, right now all my research is in computer(no burner) and on > GenCircles for safekeeping. I would love to put it in book form but really > don't know how to do that yet. Guess I should take a class or something. > I should mention something that I didn't know before. CDs only last about > ten years at the most in prime > conditions. So they need to be updated long before that. > > I also would love to find a copy of the Hager Family History book that > was written in McPherson Co., Kansas. Have not found that one yet. > Somewhere > hidden in puter is the name of the person that compiled that book. > Probably > in my e-mail program. > > I am close to figuring out exactly when my gggrandfather, George > Washington Hager, [s/o John Morgan and > Elizabeth Jane (Miller) Hager] died. (BTW, John Morgan WAS a Major, that > was not his first name.) I recently got the probate records for both > George > W. Hager and Eliza Ann (Baisden) Hager. Proof in those that his doctor was > the father in law of his son William McDaniel. I was amazed at how long > it > took to finish the probate because of the traveling judge at the time. > Over > three years for both. > > Well, enough for now. > > Gracie in Okla. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burgess" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:56 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going to be > bigger than the Burgess Family > > >> Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and cousins, >> >> I am trying to figure out how big the Toler file is going to be. >> >> I never dreamed that I could find as many Toler Descendants of David >> Toler >> and Susanna as I did for William Burgess and Susann of Bedford County, >> Virginia. >> >> The Burgess file has approximately 725 pages. >> >> The Toler file tonight has 425 pages of information and I have not even >> begun. >> It is a little discouraging to think how many pages I am going to have on >> the Toler >> family. >> >> Nathaniel Mullins file is about 250 (not near as big as the others) >> Have not begun! >> >> William Browning and Catherine Anglin is approximately 325 - I stopped to >> work on the >> Toler Family. >> >> Abner Vance and Susanna Howard (who knows - It must be the biggest by > far) >> >> Burgess, Mullins, Browning, Brown and Allied Families was around 300 > pages. >> >> I thought it was a good book - I guess it was for 1978. >> >> Just imagine if we wrote the book today it would have over 2500 (maybe > over >> 3,000) pages of information. >> >> Hard to believe that we have had such an explosion of information since >> 1978. >> >> I believe with a lot of work there could be a 1,000 pages of information > on >> each of these >> families except for the Mullins family which was a small family all >> things >> considered! >> >> If my health holds out I would like to go back to West Virginia to >> contact >> family >> that lives there in about 5 years. >> >> I need a gate keeper to take this project before I kick off! >> >> _______ >> >> Just a thought it would be great if a lot of people on the list would >> work >> on putting >> all the descendants of their Logan County Ancestors in a book or on a web >> site or on a data >> base that could be shared with future generations! >> >> At the very least I am going to print these booklets out and donate them > to >> the libaries >> in Logan and Wyoming Counties and the Geneaogical Societies. >> >> I would like to see families that are close to my families the Perry, >> Hinchman, White, >> Hager, Walker, Cook, Blankenship, Belcher, Grimmett, Bailey, Cline, > Dempsey, >> Combs, Jarrell, Smith, Cow Creek Brownings, Robinett. The list could be a >> super list. >> >> The list could be just a big as you can make it. >> >> It is better than watching the boob tube! >> >> Should we save this information for future generations? >> What are we going to leave them? >> >> Does anyone else want to work on their families? >> >> I would like for our grand children and great grand children to return to >> Logan County >> and fine 100 books on the early families of Logan County, West Virginia. >> >> I thought the Census project was a great idea. I think this is an even >> better idea. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Dear Logan County Genealogist, Just wondering how the Logan County Genealogical Society is doing. When where do they meet? What do they have for sale? Where are the "Family History" or Logan County History rooms in Logan County? thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Parr [mailto:clparr@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:59 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] A few thoughts concerning writing books or booklets on Logan County Families If it counts for anything, I am EXTREMELY grateful for the people who write their family history. I would have never found anything out about my daddy's mothers family if someone had not written a book for my grandmother's mother lost her husband when my grandmother was 6 mos old. My gr grandmother then moved to another state and remarried. I will probably never know who my great grandad was for I do not know his first name and I have never gotten any responses except how to look him up which is appreciated........1890.....does that explain things. I have been blessed with the detailed info on many tombstones where my many family lines have been buried for over 100 years, also. I was overwhelmed when I found a huge book about my dad's other side. I am glad to share with anyone. I need to send what I have when someone writes me which I usually do. My computer crashed and it has taken me years to get things back on and still not finished. That is a lesson in you should backup information almost daily. I have searched for the last backup and have not found the latest. I learned to never give up hope when putting a query in a newspaper or other methods for after many months after placing the request I got a call from a lady who owned the land where my great great grandparents on my gr grandmother's side and other family members were buried. They cleared the land each year and they and their five children and families plan to be buried there. I asked her to have the genealogical society to read it and it now published. So now I have another reference. I do like to share for everyone knows a different part of the family history. I do not just copy what they have written as "the word", but I then go and research and make sure it is correct. I have had some people who would not recognize that we descended from the same line for as many as 10 plus years and all of a sudden they get the connection and give me a call. I have given everything I have on each family line as someone asks especially to the younger ones who are anxious to find out info and research. I have just asked that they share with me. Most have, but some have put it on the internet as their research which is my fault for I did not put it on there first, but many have given me credit which I appreciate. I discovered that I did have many things wrong and I took it off to correct for like most of us work late at night and have had 5 back surgeries and the usual other life stuff the past 10 years plus and I admit I make mistakes, but hopefully I catch them or people will catch them for me and let me know. If we dont work together there is so much that will never be known. I would just appreciate it if someone doesnt want to share if they will just give me a county or state or name and let me go after it. It would be terrible if people did not write books and have them placed in the libraries to share. They are giving a piece of history that will be preserved forever. I am not intelligent enough to write a book although it would be fun, but I would like to have as much info as I could before making a book so would never make it possible. HA! My next project is to learn to scan...found my directions again. I hope this will help those who want to share and those who do not want to share think about how it helps others as well as themselves. My gr grandad Vance died when I was 20. He was my idol. I only wish that I had listened to his stories more and recorded them. Cheryl Walters Parr Dorthea Jean Bradford Lorena Maye Vance b 02 Jan 1905 Garner TX Parker CO (bet. Mineral Wells/Weatherford and now almost considered a suburb of Ft Worth TX for the growth is unbelievable.) James Alexander "Jim" Vance b 14 Jun 1871 Sturgeon MO Boone CO (The family had been in Knox CO, Jefferson CO, etc but they moved to MO apparently during CW for many had land was on the Holston River in Strawberry Plains TN, but they returned aft war to TN: there were Steele, Wilmuth, Chidester, and other families that moved there also) John Vance b 20 Mar 1849 Strawberry Plains (Mossie Creek) TN Jefferson CO James Vance Jr b 07 Dec 1811 TN PA IRELAND James Vance Sr b 05 Mar 1773 PA Patrick Vance b abt 1747 Donegal Ireland dkb <dkb@greenapple.com> wrote: Well Jim I offered to help write the book with guidance, never thinking of making a profit. Let's face it a book on the Vance family would never make the New York Times List. So I will kindly stick to my own book. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] A few thoughts concerning writing books or booklets on Logan County Families > Dear Logan County Genealogist and Family, > > We do not have to write books that are huge. We do need to write books or > "booklets" that are accurate and true! > > I have written several books and do not think I have made much money > on any thing. > > All of the money that I have received from Burgess, Mullins, Browning, > Brown and Allied families has gone to fund my family history library. > I have about 300 pretty good books in my library. > > It would be great if a new researcher could go to Logan or Wyoming or > Boone County and see several books on families of Logan County. We > have done the work. Why not share. > > We could find out if the libraries would be willing to purchase what > we do. > > Some families are huge and some are quite small. With all the records > we have from Ancestry and each other we can do a very nice job with > our records. > > One of the concerns I have is that some seem to want to hold back on their > research. We tend to send out small tidbits of information that really do > not help others. > > We should tell people where the records came from. We have the following > sources for Logan County (partial) > > All Census Records > Birth records 1853-1860 > Birth Records 1872 1900 (or what ever) > Marriage Dates > Death Dates > WWI registration records > Personal family knowledge > History of Logan County > Sigfus Olafson and Dave Turner's annotations > On line death records > Some Cemetery records > & lots of other records > > Some people seem to be better at writing than others. > Some do not have an interest. > Some would do a good job proof reading and adding information. > > Seems like we could organize our selves and do this. > > I am very concerned about the lack of interest in the 1850 Census project > in > that > we had few participants. > > I am not sure how many people we have on the list. Does any one know? > > How many people are willing to do a book? > > How many are willing to proof read a book? > > For Jim Burgess I commit to do the following: > > William Burgess and Susanna of Bedford County, Virginia > Toler Families of Southwest Virginia - Descendants of David Toler and > Susanna > > Other I am interested in or would be willing to contribute > > Descendants of Nathaniel Mullins and Margaret Peggy Wilson > Descendants of Abner Vance and Susanna Howard > James Brown and Esther Gough (which would include Brown descendants) > > The Abner Vance family is so huge that we could divide it into all of his > sons > and daughers. > > Several on the list would purchase them from others. > > I would be very willing to add information that I may have in my library. > > We need to pay attention and help others if we can. > > We could co author a book. > > I sincerely hope that several members on the list will volunteer to do > something > on atleast on of their families. > > If we know that some one is working on a family we could have those who > subscribe > to Ancestry send information to the person working on a particular family. > > We do not have to be alone in this. > > Any comments? > > thanks > Jim Burgess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:41 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going > to be bigger than the Burgess Family > > > Jim, I agree with you completely on more books being written. Even if > there are some mistakes, as long as it is noted that some information > might > need more research. I don't think a thing about sharing what I am sure > about > with most researchers. I figure that the more people who have the correct > information, the better. > > At one time, I set up for family home pages to print out. I don't know > if I did it wrong but when my printer program hit 10,000 pages, I shut it > off. I still don't understand why the number went that high because I only > had about 4,000 people in my files. Mayby it was going to include all the > notes which have personal e-mails included. > > Anyway, right now all my research is in computer(no burner) and on > GenCircles for safekeeping. I would love to put it in book form but really > don't know how to do that yet. Guess I should take a class or something. > I should mention something that I didn't know before. CDs only last about > ten years at the most in prime > conditions. So they need to be updated long before that. > > I also would love to find a copy of the Hager Family History book that > was written in McPherson Co., Kansas. Have not found that one yet. > Somewhere > hidden in puter is the name of the person that compiled that book. > Probably > in my e-mail program. > > I am close to figuring out exactly when my gggrandfather, George > Washington Hager, [s/o John Morgan and > Elizabeth Jane (Miller) Hager] died. (BTW, John Morgan WAS a Major, that > was not his first name.) I recently got the probate records for both > George > W. Hager and Eliza Ann (Baisden) Hager. Proof in those that his doctor was > the father in law of his son William McDaniel. I was amazed at how long > it > took to finish the probate because of the traveling judge at the time. > Over > three years for both. > > Well, enough for now. > > Gracie in Okla. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burgess" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:56 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going to be > bigger than the Burgess Family > > >> Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and cousins, >> >> I am trying to figure out how big the Toler file is going to be. >> >> I never dreamed that I could find as many Toler Descendants of David >> Toler >> and Susanna as I did for William Burgess and Susann of Bedford County, >> Virginia. >> >> The Burgess file has approximately 725 pages. >> >> The Toler file tonight has 425 pages of information and I have not even >> begun. >> It is a little discouraging to think how many pages I am going to have on >> the Toler >> family. >> >> Nathaniel Mullins file is about 250 (not near as big as the others) >> Have not begun! >> >> William Browning and Catherine Anglin is approximately 325 - I stopped to >> work on the >> Toler Family. >> >> Abner Vance and Susanna Howard (who knows - It must be the biggest by > far) >> >> Burgess, Mullins, Browning, Brown and Allied Families was around 300 > pages. >> >> I thought it was a good book - I guess it was for 1978. >> >> Just imagine if we wrote the book today it would have over 2500 (maybe > over >> 3,000) pages of information. >> >> Hard to believe that we have had such an explosion of information since >> 1978. >> >> I believe with a lot of work there could be a 1,000 pages of information > on >> each of these >> families except for the Mullins family which was a small family all >> things >> considered! >> >> If my health holds out I would like to go back to West Virginia to >> contact >> family >> that lives there in about 5 years. >> >> I need a gate keeper to take this project before I kick off! >> >> _______ >> >> Just a thought it would be great if a lot of people on the list would >> work >> on putting >> all the descendants of their Logan County Ancestors in a book or on a web >> site or on a data >> base that could be shared with future generations! >> >> At the very least I am going to print these booklets out and donate them > to >> the libaries >> in Logan and Wyoming Counties and the Geneaogical Societies. >> >> I would like to see families that are close to my families the Perry, >> Hinchman, White, >> Hager, Walker, Cook, Blankenship, Belcher, Grimmett, Bailey, Cline, > Dempsey, >> Combs, Jarrell, Smith, Cow Creek Brownings, Robinett. The list could be a >> super list. >> >> The list could be just a big as you can make it. >> >> It is better than watching the boob tube! >> >> Should we save this information for future generations? >> What are we going to leave them? >> >> Does anyone else want to work on their families? >> >> I would like for our grand children and great grand children to return to >> Logan County >> and fine 100 books on the early families of Logan County, West Virginia. >> >> I thought the Census project was a great idea. I think this is an even >> better idea. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Not sure if anyone answered, but they used to meet on the last Monday of each month evenings at the library at West Virginia Technical College. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:44 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Logan County Genealogical Society and the Community College in Logan Dear Logan County Genealogist, Just wondering how the Logan County Genealogical Society is doing. When where do they meet? What do they have for sale? Where are the "Family History" or Logan County History rooms in Logan County? thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl Parr [mailto:clparr@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 9:59 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] A few thoughts concerning writing books or booklets on Logan County Families If it counts for anything, I am EXTREMELY grateful for the people who write their family history. I would have never found anything out about my daddy's mothers family if someone had not written a book for my grandmother's mother lost her husband when my grandmother was 6 mos old. My gr grandmother then moved to another state and remarried. I will probably never know who my great grandad was for I do not know his first name and I have never gotten any responses except how to look him up which is appreciated........1890.....does that explain things. I have been blessed with the detailed info on many tombstones where my many family lines have been buried for over 100 years, also. I was overwhelmed when I found a huge book about my dad's other side. I am glad to share with anyone. I need to send what I have when someone writes me which I usually do. My computer crashed and it has taken me years to get things back on and still not finished. That is a lesson in you should backup information almost daily. I have searched for the last backup and have not found the latest. I learned to never give up hope when putting a query in a newspaper or other methods for after many months after placing the request I got a call from a lady who owned the land where my great great grandparents on my gr grandmother's side and other family members were buried. They cleared the land each year and they and their five children and families plan to be buried there. I asked her to have the genealogical society to read it and it now published. So now I have another reference. I do like to share for everyone knows a different part of the family history. I do not just copy what they have written as "the word", but I then go and research and make sure it is correct. I have had some people who would not recognize that we descended from the same line for as many as 10 plus years and all of a sudden they get the connection and give me a call. I have given everything I have on each family line as someone asks especially to the younger ones who are anxious to find out info and research. I have just asked that they share with me. Most have, but some have put it on the internet as their research which is my fault for I did not put it on there first, but many have given me credit which I appreciate. I discovered that I did have many things wrong and I took it off to correct for like most of us work late at night and have had 5 back surgeries and the usual other life stuff the past 10 years plus and I admit I make mistakes, but hopefully I catch them or people will catch them for me and let me know. If we dont work together there is so much that will never be known. I would just appreciate it if someone doesnt want to share if they will just give me a county or state or name and let me go after it. It would be terrible if people did not write books and have them placed in the libraries to share. They are giving a piece of history that will be preserved forever. I am not intelligent enough to write a book although it would be fun, but I would like to have as much info as I could before making a book so would never make it possible. HA! My next project is to learn to scan...found my directions again. I hope this will help those who want to share and those who do not want to share think about how it helps others as well as themselves. My gr grandad Vance died when I was 20. He was my idol. I only wish that I had listened to his stories more and recorded them. Cheryl Walters Parr Dorthea Jean Bradford Lorena Maye Vance b 02 Jan 1905 Garner TX Parker CO (bet. Mineral Wells/Weatherford and now almost considered a suburb of Ft Worth TX for the growth is unbelievable.) James Alexander "Jim" Vance b 14 Jun 1871 Sturgeon MO Boone CO (The family had been in Knox CO, Jefferson CO, etc but they moved to MO apparently during CW for many had land was on the Holston River in Strawberry Plains TN, but they returned aft war to TN: there were Steele, Wilmuth, Chidester, and other families that moved there also) John Vance b 20 Mar 1849 Strawberry Plains (Mossie Creek) TN Jefferson CO James Vance Jr b 07 Dec 1811 TN PA IRELAND James Vance Sr b 05 Mar 1773 PA Patrick Vance b abt 1747 Donegal Ireland dkb <dkb@greenapple.com> wrote: Well Jim I offered to help write the book with guidance, never thinking of making a profit. Let's face it a book on the Vance family would never make the New York Times List. So I will kindly stick to my own book. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 7:31 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] A few thoughts concerning writing books or booklets on Logan County Families > Dear Logan County Genealogist and Family, > > We do not have to write books that are huge. We do need to write books > or "booklets" that are accurate and true! > > I have written several books and do not think I have made much money > on any thing. > > All of the money that I have received from Burgess, Mullins, Browning, > Brown and Allied families has gone to fund my family history library. > I have about 300 pretty good books in my library. > > It would be great if a new researcher could go to Logan or Wyoming or > Boone County and see several books on families of Logan County. We > have done the work. Why not share. > > We could find out if the libraries would be willing to purchase what > we do. > > Some families are huge and some are quite small. With all the records > we have from Ancestry and each other we can do a very nice job with > our records. > > One of the concerns I have is that some seem to want to hold back on > their research. We tend to send out small tidbits of information that > really do not help others. > > We should tell people where the records came from. We have the > following sources for Logan County (partial) > > All Census Records > Birth records 1853-1860 > Birth Records 1872 1900 (or what ever) > Marriage Dates > Death Dates > WWI registration records > Personal family knowledge > History of Logan County > Sigfus Olafson and Dave Turner's annotations > On line death records > Some Cemetery records > & lots of other records > > Some people seem to be better at writing than others. > Some do not have an interest. > Some would do a good job proof reading and adding information. > > Seems like we could organize our selves and do this. > > I am very concerned about the lack of interest in the 1850 Census > project in that > we had few participants. > > I am not sure how many people we have on the list. Does any one know? > > How many people are willing to do a book? > > How many are willing to proof read a book? > > For Jim Burgess I commit to do the following: > > William Burgess and Susanna of Bedford County, Virginia > Toler Families of Southwest Virginia - Descendants of David Toler and > Susanna > > Other I am interested in or would be willing to contribute > > Descendants of Nathaniel Mullins and Margaret Peggy Wilson Descendants > of Abner Vance and Susanna Howard James Brown and Esther Gough (which > would include Brown descendants) > > The Abner Vance family is so huge that we could divide it into all of > his sons and daughers. > > Several on the list would purchase them from others. > > I would be very willing to add information that I may have in my > library. > > We need to pay attention and help others if we can. > > We could co author a book. > > I sincerely hope that several members on the list will volunteer to do > something on atleast on of their families. > > If we know that some one is working on a family we could have those > who subscribe to Ancestry send information to the person working on a > particular family. > > We do not have to be alone in this. > > Any comments? > > thanks > Jim Burgess > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:41 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is > going to be bigger than the Burgess Family > > > Jim, I agree with you completely on more books being written. Even if > there are some mistakes, as long as it is noted that some information > might need more research. I don't think a thing about sharing what I > am sure about > with most researchers. I figure that the more people who have the correct > information, the better. > > At one time, I set up for family home pages to print out. I don't know > if I did it wrong but when my printer program hit 10,000 pages, I shut > it off. I still don't understand why the number went that high because > I only had about 4,000 people in my files. Mayby it was going to > include all the notes which have personal e-mails included. > > Anyway, right now all my research is in computer(no burner) and on > GenCircles for safekeeping. I would love to put it in book form but > really don't know how to do that yet. Guess I should take a class or > something. I should mention something that I didn't know before. CDs > only last about ten years at the most in prime conditions. So they > need to be updated long before that. > > I also would love to find a copy of the Hager Family History book that > was written in McPherson Co., Kansas. Have not found that one yet. > Somewhere hidden in puter is the name of the person that compiled that > book. Probably > in my e-mail program. > > I am close to figuring out exactly when my gggrandfather, George > Washington Hager, [s/o John Morgan and Elizabeth Jane (Miller) Hager] > died. (BTW, John Morgan WAS a Major, that was not his first name.) I > recently got the probate records for both George > W. Hager and Eliza Ann (Baisden) Hager. Proof in those that his doctor was > the father in law of his son William McDaniel. I was amazed at how long > it > took to finish the probate because of the traveling judge at the time. > Over > three years for both. > > Well, enough for now. > > Gracie in Okla. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burgess" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:56 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going to > be bigger than the Burgess Family > > >> Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and cousins, >> >> I am trying to figure out how big the Toler file is going to be. >> >> I never dreamed that I could find as many Toler Descendants of David >> Toler and Susanna as I did for William Burgess and Susann of Bedford >> County, Virginia. >> >> The Burgess file has approximately 725 pages. >> >> The Toler file tonight has 425 pages of information and I have not >> even begun. It is a little discouraging to think how many pages I am >> going to have on the Toler >> family. >> >> Nathaniel Mullins file is about 250 (not near as big as the others) >> Have not begun! >> >> William Browning and Catherine Anglin is approximately 325 - I >> stopped to work on the Toler Family. >> >> Abner Vance and Susanna Howard (who knows - It must be the biggest by > far) >> >> Burgess, Mullins, Browning, Brown and Allied Families was around 300 > pages. >> >> I thought it was a good book - I guess it was for 1978. >> >> Just imagine if we wrote the book today it would have over 2500 >> (maybe > over >> 3,000) pages of information. >> >> Hard to believe that we have had such an explosion of information >> since 1978. >> >> I believe with a lot of work there could be a 1,000 pages of >> information > on >> each of these >> families except for the Mullins family which was a small family all >> things considered! >> >> If my health holds out I would like to go back to West Virginia to >> contact family >> that lives there in about 5 years. >> >> I need a gate keeper to take this project before I kick off! >> >> _______ >> >> Just a thought it would be great if a lot of people on the list would >> work on putting >> all the descendants of their Logan County Ancestors in a book or on a web >> site or on a data >> base that could be shared with future generations! >> >> At the very least I am going to print these booklets out and donate >> them > to >> the libaries >> in Logan and Wyoming Counties and the Geneaogical Societies. >> >> I would like to see families that are close to my families the Perry, >> Hinchman, White, Hager, Walker, Cook, Blankenship, Belcher, Grimmett, >> Bailey, Cline, > Dempsey, >> Combs, Jarrell, Smith, Cow Creek Brownings, Robinett. The list could >> be a super list. >> >> The list could be just a big as you can make it. >> >> It is better than watching the boob tube! >> >> Should we save this information for future generations? >> What are we going to leave them? >> >> Does anyone else want to work on their families? >> >> I would like for our grand children and great grand children to >> return to Logan County and fine 100 books on the early families of >> Logan County, West Virginia. >> >> I thought the Census project was a great idea. I think this is an >> even better idea. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in >> the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn >> more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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