Gloria, I have always wondered how they came up with Polly for Mary and Peggy for Magaret. My great grandmother had a sister that we always called Aunt Cinda. Her name was Lucinda. But how did they come up with Hank for a man named Henry? Anita ________________________________ From: Gloria Damron <gdamron@roadrunner.com> To: Vernia Brooks (Yahoo) <vlbbrooks@yahoo.com>; wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:42:03 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Clarissa, Or Claracy ? I have found mostly  in the southern census records that they wrote down the names as the people  as they called them.    In my husbands family there is a Sarah, but she was called Surry.  Also I have a copy of a marriage paper for my husbands ancestors for Armeldy Meade and Jesse Damron.  She is listed elsewhere as Armelda.  They most likely told them the name they called them other than the name they were given at birth.  Why do they call a girl Polly- when her name is Mary?  Or call her Sally if her name is Sarah.  How do they get Peggy out of Margaret?  My husbands great aunt was always called Aunt Lanie-  I thought it was short for Elaine, I never knew her name was Delaina until I found her on the census records.  I suggest you check all spellings of the name- both first and last. Some of the men's names are just as confusing! Gloria Damron~  Ohio~ Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Clarissa, Or Claracy ? > Shelby, I believe it is Clar-issa with the accent on issa.  Vernia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2009 2:07 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Clarissa, Or Claracy ? > > >> I am in the midst of an argument over the correct way to say the female >> name: Clarissa. I always heard it called "Claracy"; but this other person >> says >> its wrong, and the correct way is : "Clar-issa", with the accent on the >> "issa". Anyway, Clara is the short way to say it. Thanks. >> >> Shelby >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Joel for some reason I could not get her to come up on the WVa site. Will try again with the right spelling. Bonnie

Bonnie, It looks like Safroney to me in 1870 and Sofronia A. in 1880 and Sophrona in 1900 and Sophrona in 1920 and Saphronia Hatfield on her death cert. http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_view.aspx?Id=4670310&Type=Death Joel -----Original Message----- From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BLPgobraves@aol.com Sent: Sunday, September 06, 2009 7:29 AM To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Anderson Hatfield Thanks Joel, do you think that was her name or an error on the census taker? Bonnie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Joel, do you think that was her name or an error on the census taker? Bonnie

Anita; The door-to-door beauty products, Avon, has a very good bee sting cure. Its worked well for me. Hope your relatives are recovered from their yellow jacket stings. Shelby

Shelby, They recovered very nicely. Thank you. Happy Labor Day. Anita   ________________________________ From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, September 5, 2009 7:30:02 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cure For Bee Stings Anita; The door-to-door beauty products, Avon,  has a very good bee sting cure. Its worked well for me. Hope your relatives are recovered from their yellow jacket stings. Shelby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Shelby, I had to laugh when I re-read your cure for a bee sting. A few nights ago, my son and my uncle got into a yellow jackets nest while weed eating at my grandmothers. I am not sure about Bob, but Chris got it about 5 or 6 times, one of which was on his eye. I can just picture us running around trying to find enough pennies to apply to the stings... We used the old standby - baking soda. Have a good day. Anita ________________________________ From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:48:07 AM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Cure For Bee Stings Hello to the Logan List;  Dallas Baldwin, formerly of Blair, Logan Co. WV, sent me a forwarded text, telling about a penny applied to a bee sting will dilute the toxins, and prevent swelling . It seems the copper in the penny does the work. He says to tape the penny over the sting for about an hour. Always have some pennys on hand during the Summer months ! Shelby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bonnie, I have it as Safronia Hatfield b. Mar 1865 in Wyoming County. Joel -----Original Message----- From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BLPgobraves@aol.com Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 8:59 AM To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Anderson Hatfield Does anyone have info on the children of Anderson Hatfield and Octavy Lusk? I am having a hard time with the names in particular his oldest dau. census give 2 spelllings. Anderson son of Andrew and Susannah Trent. Thanks, Bonnie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone have info on the children of Anderson Hatfield and Octavy Lusk? I am having a hard time with the names in particular his oldest dau. census give 2 spelllings. Anderson son of Andrew and Susannah Trent. Thanks, Bonnie

________________________________ Well, yes, you are exactly right about that, too...lol.   From: Richard Stewart rcs5ster@gmail.com MTR ruined the wells in Blair.  Sandi, if you think about it, everyones poo from McDowell and Wyoming Cos. is in the river too.  Grin.  Rick On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Sandi <sandmayo@yahoo.com> wrote: > Gas well drilling changes the smell and > taste of well water.... > > For many years throughout the 1950's > into the mid-1980's near Chapmanville, my > parents had the best well water to drink.  It > had absolutley no odor or taste other than pure > good water from the ground, until the early > 1990's when they began drilling gas wells in > Chapmanville.  Suddenly, my parents well > water began tasting like rotten eggs and smelling > of sulfur and gasoline....Just aweful.  My mother > finally had to hook up to city water. > > The DEP never would look into it.  But everybody's > pooh from Man to Logan to Mitchell Hts to Chapmanville > goes down the Guyandotte River and that is what is used > for our CITY WATER........Go figure!  LOLLOLOLOL > > I really have to laugh about that one.  But I drink it too. > Oh well. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:10:35 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Gracie, > > I don't know but my neighbor West Virginian born and bred blames it on the > mines. Not sure if anyone has ever had it tested or not. I haven't. > > When I get a chance, I will send you pictures of falls and river (New). > > Anta > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:17:25 AM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > >    Anita,  I wonder what has caused your springs to change color?  Have > you had it > tested? > >    Out here in my area I call the Arkansas River 'Ole muddy'.  lol,  have > never seen it clear. > Just the way it is.  Even before it was dammed,  and was low enough to walk > across, > it was brown,  and didn't we dare walk across it because of the quicksand. > Keystone Lake near Tulsa has red/orange water but that is from the red > clay. > >    That's why I love the pics of WV streams and waterfalls.  Would love, > just once, to see > clear running water.  Guess I need to travel more.  (smiling) > > Gracie in Okla > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:36:02 AM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Gracie, > > I can attest the ugly water. Back in the late seventies, early eighties my > parents bought this farm where we all now reside (Fayette County) - they in > one house and my son and I in another. Running along side of my house are > two streams. One runs thru my yard and the other on the othes side of the > road. Both of these are natural springs and the one on the other side of the > road turned red seveal years ago and now I am seeing hints of red in the one > that runs thru my yard. > > You know what is interesting? There has been no "strip mining, MTR" > anywhere near our farm. > > Anita > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:00:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Hi cuz Shelby > >    I hope those young people do get nation wide attention.  We could all > send their > news reports to local newspapers everywhere. > >    I really enjoyed reading the 'Coal Tattoo' blog, quite interesting. > >    What makes me sad is:  Court rejects Obama efforts to reverse Bush > mining changes > U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy Jr. seems to be anti-environment from > what > I have read this afternoon. > >    Was horrified when I saw that yellow/orange stream picture.  Streams in > WV are supposed > to be clean and clear. > >    Big secret that the coal companies don't want you to know is that the > use of coal > has dropped a lot recently.  Since the big wind farms are being put up > nation wide. > There is still hope. > > West Virginia(and other states nearby) is still beautiful.  Would like to > see it stay that > way. > > Cuz Gracie from Okla > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:31:53 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Cousin Gracie ; > Are you referring to the story about the two people in treetops protesting > mountaintop removal ? I hope it gets national attention ; but at the > present > time we must rely on  coal as an energy source, until a better way comes > along. At any rate, our beautiful mountains should NOT be destroyed. There > are > other ways to mine coal. > Cuz > Shelby > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

NOT certain if this, Laura; but I think Pencil is in Ky. Shelby

Has anyone ever heard of a place called Pencil in Logan Co? Laura Loding Hayes, VA Owned by Spunky, BAM, Sydney, Snoottee, Bear, Sammi (all Rotties) and Razzie our Chi/Maltese mix. Serena, Buster and BJ are waiting at the Rainbow Bridge

Great joke, Shelby and there's a WHOLE lot of truth to it. My husband does most of the cooking at our house (smile). Ada Wilson Kent Born at Sarah Ann, Went to school at Low Ash, left for Ohio at age 8, and still call West Virginia home -----Original Message----- From: wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:wvlogan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of BurgessWV@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:41 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Joke : The Man Who Married Three Times A man married a girl from Ohio ; he told her to clean his house,do his laundry, fix his meals. She did so after long while. His second wife was a girl from NY. She complied after a longer time His third wife was a WV girl. He gave her his orders, and the last I heard of him was his eyes were beginning to open enough to see out of them ; and his hands well enough to fix himself a sandwich. Shelby ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&amp; hmpgID=115&amp;bcd=JulystepsfooterNO115) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If ever a town needed a water system, it was Chapmanville. The wells would go dry during the summer months, or get real low. I can remember carrying buckets of water from the Guyandotte river, so my grandmother Baisden could do the week's laundry. Her well was one of the first to go dry. This was back during the 1930s, and 40s. The new water system was a welcome sight to us ! Shelby

MTR ruined the wells in Blair. Sandi, if you think about it, everyones poo from McDowell and Wyoming Cos. is in the river too. Grin. Rick On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Sandi <sandmayo@yahoo.com> wrote: > Gas well drilling changes the smell and > taste of well water.... > > For many years throughout the 1950's > into the mid-1980's near Chapmanville, my > parents had the best well water to drink. It > had absolutley no odor or taste other than pure > good water from the ground, until the early > 1990's when they began drilling gas wells in > Chapmanville. Suddenly, my parents well > water began tasting like rotten eggs and smelling > of sulfur and gasoline....Just aweful. My mother > finally had to hook up to city water. > > The DEP never would look into it. But everybody's > pooh from Man to Logan to Mitchell Hts to Chapmanville > goes down the Guyandotte River and that is what is used > for our CITY WATER........Go figure! LOLLOLOLOL > > I really have to laugh about that one. But I drink it too. > Oh well. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:10:35 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Gracie, > > I don't know but my neighbor West Virginian born and bred blames it on the > mines. Not sure if anyone has ever had it tested or not. I haven't. > > When I get a chance, I will send you pictures of falls and river (New). > > Anta > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:17:25 AM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Anita, I wonder what has caused your springs to change color? Have > you had it > tested? > > Out here in my area I call the Arkansas River 'Ole muddy'. lol, have > never seen it clear. > Just the way it is. Even before it was dammed, and was low enough to walk > across, > it was brown, and didn't we dare walk across it because of the quicksand. > Keystone Lake near Tulsa has red/orange water but that is from the red > clay. > > That's why I love the pics of WV streams and waterfalls. Would love, > just once, to see > clear running water. Guess I need to travel more. (smiling) > > Gracie in Okla > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:36:02 AM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Gracie, > > I can attest the ugly water. Back in the late seventies, early eighties my > parents bought this farm where we all now reside (Fayette County) - they in > one house and my son and I in another. Running along side of my house are > two streams. One runs thru my yard and the other on the othes side of the > road. Both of these are natural springs and the one on the other side of the > road turned red seveal years ago and now I am seeing hints of red in the one > that runs thru my yard. > > You know what is interesting? There has been no "strip mining, MTR" > anywhere near our farm. > > Anita > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:00:11 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Hi cuz Shelby > > I hope those young people do get nation wide attention. We could all > send their > news reports to local newspapers everywhere. > > I really enjoyed reading the 'Coal Tattoo' blog, quite interesting. > > What makes me sad is: Court rejects Obama efforts to reverse Bush > mining changes > U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy Jr. seems to be anti-environment from > what > I have read this afternoon. > > Was horrified when I saw that yellow/orange stream picture. Streams in > WV are supposed > to be clean and clear. > > Big secret that the coal companies don't want you to know is that the > use of coal > has dropped a lot recently. Since the big wind farms are being put up > nation wide. > There is still hope. > > West Virginia(and other states nearby) is still beautiful. Would like to > see it stay that > way. > > Cuz Gracie from Okla > > > > > ________________________________ > From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> > To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:31:53 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. > > Cousin Gracie ; > Are you referring to the story about the two people in treetops protesting > mountaintop removal ? I hope it gets national attention ; but at the > present > time we must rely on coal as an energy source, until a better way comes > along. At any rate, our beautiful mountains should NOT be destroyed. There > are > other ways to mine coal. > Cuz > Shelby > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sandi; Your laughter reminded me of a joke George Browning Of Blair pulled on his elderly mother-in- law back in the 30s. He was taking her to a Dr. at Madison, and she had never seen a gas well. It had a smell like human waste. As they passed the smelly gas well , he decided to have some fun out of her. He told her she had messed on herself. "upon my honor, George Browning, i've done no such thing !' He barely could hold back the laughter, as he told her he was going to find a patch of bushes where she could clean herself. The old smelly gas well was located at Greenview, Boone co. WV. Shelby

Gas well drilling changes the smell and taste of well water.... For many years throughout the 1950's into the mid-1980's near Chapmanville, my parents had the best well water to drink.  It had absolutley no odor or taste other than pure good water from the ground, until the early 1990's when they began drilling gas wells in Chapmanville.  Suddenly, my parents well water began tasting like rotten eggs and smelling of sulfur and gasoline....Just aweful.  My mother finally had to hook up to city water. The DEP never would look into it.  But everybody's pooh from Man to Logan to Mitchell Hts to Chapmanville goes down the Guyandotte River and that is what is used for our CITY WATER........Go figure!   LOLLOLOLOL I really have to laugh about that one.  But I drink it too. Oh well.   ________________________________ From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 12:10:35 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Gracie, I don't know but my neighbor West Virginian born and bred blames it on the mines. Not sure if anyone has ever had it tested or not. I haven't. When I get a chance, I will send you pictures of falls and river (New). Anta ________________________________ From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:17:25 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad.     Anita,  I wonder what has caused your springs to change color?  Have you had it tested?     Out here in my area I call the Arkansas River 'Ole muddy'.  lol,  have never seen it clear. Just the way it is.  Even before it was dammed,  and was low enough to walk across,  it was brown,  and didn't we dare walk across it because of the quicksand. Keystone Lake near Tulsa has red/orange water but that is from the red clay.     That's why I love the pics of WV streams and waterfalls.  Would love, just once, to see clear running water.  Guess I need to travel more.  (smiling) Gracie in Okla ________________________________ From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:36:02 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Gracie, I can attest the ugly water. Back in the late seventies, early eighties my parents bought this farm where we all now reside (Fayette County) - they in one house and my son and I in another. Running along side of my house are two streams. One runs thru my yard and the other on the othes side of the road. Both of these are natural springs and the one on the other side of the road turned red seveal years ago and now I am seeing hints of red in the one that runs thru my yard. You know what is interesting? There has been no "strip mining, MTR" anywhere near our farm. Anita ________________________________ From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:00:11 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Hi cuz Shelby      I hope those young people do get nation wide attention.  We could all send their news reports to local newspapers everywhere.     I really enjoyed reading the 'Coal Tattoo' blog, quite interesting.      What makes me sad is:  Court rejects Obama efforts to reverse Bush mining changes U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy Jr. seems to be anti-environment from what I have read this afternoon.      Was horrified when I saw that yellow/orange stream picture.  Streams in WV are supposed to be clean and clear.     Big secret that the coal companies don't want you to know is that the use of coal has dropped a lot recently.  Since the big wind farms are being put up nation wide.  There is still hope.  West Virginia(and other states nearby) is still beautiful.  Would like to see it stay that way.  Cuz Gracie from Okla ________________________________ From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:31:53 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Cousin Gracie ; Are you referring to the story about the two people in treetops protesting mountaintop removal ? I hope it gets national attention ; but at the present time we must rely on  coal as an energy source, until a better way comes along. At any rate, our beautiful mountains should NOT be destroyed. There are other ways to mine coal. 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Anita ; Its a fact of life that coal seams & water tables go together. As a former miner, I can remember wading through water sometimes a foot deep. The reddish color in your little creek means Sulpher is present. Sulpher will hardly harm the human body, but is deadly to fish in streams, as it replaces the oxygen. It has an awful taste,needless to say ! Shelby

Anita, thank you, would love to have more pictures. Gracie ________________________________ From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 11:10:35 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Gracie, I don't know but my neighbor West Virginian born and bred blames it on the mines. Not sure if anyone has ever had it tested or not. I haven't. When I get a chance, I will send you pictures of falls and river (New). Anta ________________________________ From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:17:25 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Anita, I wonder what has caused your springs to change color? Have you had it tested? Out here in my area I call the Arkansas River 'Ole muddy'. lol, have never seen it clear. Just the way it is. Even before it was dammed, and was low enough to walk across, it was brown, and didn't we dare walk across it because of the quicksand. Keystone Lake near Tulsa has red/orange water but that is from the red clay. That's why I love the pics of WV streams and waterfalls. Would love, just once, to see clear running water. Guess I need to travel more. (smiling) Gracie in Okla ________________________________ From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:36:02 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Gracie, I can attest the ugly water. Back in the late seventies, early eighties my parents bought this farm where we all now reside (Fayette County) - they in one house and my son and I in another. Running along side of my house are two streams. One runs thru my yard and the other on the othes side of the road. Both of these are natural springs and the one on the other side of the road turned red seveal years ago and now I am seeing hints of red in the one that runs thru my yard. You know what is interesting? There has been no "strip mining, MTR" anywhere near our farm. Anita ________________________________ From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:00:11 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Hi cuz Shelby I hope those young people do get nation wide attention. We could all send their news reports to local newspapers everywhere. I really enjoyed reading the 'Coal Tattoo' blog, quite interesting. What makes me sad is: Court rejects Obama efforts to reverse Bush mining changes U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy Jr. seems to be anti-environment from what I have read this afternoon. Was horrified when I saw that yellow/orange stream picture. Streams in WV are supposed to be clean and clear. Big secret that the coal companies don't want you to know is that the use of coal has dropped a lot recently. Since the big wind farms are being put up nation wide. There is still hope. West Virginia(and other states nearby) is still beautiful. Would like to see it stay that way. Cuz Gracie from Okla ________________________________ From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:31:53 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Cousin Gracie ; Are you referring to the story about the two people in treetops protesting mountaintop removal ? I hope it gets national attention ; but at the present time we must rely on coal as an energy source, until a better way comes along. At any rate, our beautiful mountains should NOT be destroyed. There are other ways to mine coal. Cuz Shelby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Gracie, I don't know but my neighbor West Virginian born and bred blames it on the mines. Not sure if anyone has ever had it tested or not. I haven't. When I get a chance, I will send you pictures of falls and river (New). Anta ________________________________ From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 10:17:25 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad.     Anita,  I wonder what has caused your springs to change color?  Have you had it tested?     Out here in my area I call the Arkansas River 'Ole muddy'.  lol,  have never seen it clear. Just the way it is.  Even before it was dammed,  and was low enough to walk across,  it was brown,  and didn't we dare walk across it because of the quicksand. Keystone Lake near Tulsa has red/orange water but that is from the red clay.     That's why I love the pics of WV streams and waterfalls.  Would love, just once, to see clear running water.  Guess I need to travel more.  (smiling) Gracie in Okla ________________________________ From: Anita McClung <anitajoe1963@yahoo.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 7:36:02 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Gracie, I can attest the ugly water. Back in the late seventies, early eighties my parents bought this farm where we all now reside (Fayette County) - they in one house and my son and I in another. Running along side of my house are two streams. One runs thru my yard and the other on the othes side of the road. Both of these are natural springs and the one on the other side of the road turned red seveal years ago and now I am seeing hints of red in the one that runs thru my yard. You know what is interesting? There has been no "strip mining, MTR" anywhere near our farm. Anita ________________________________ From: Gracie <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:00:11 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Hi cuz Shelby      I hope those young people do get nation wide attention.  We could all send their news reports to local newspapers everywhere.     I really enjoyed reading the 'Coal Tattoo' blog, quite interesting.      What makes me sad is:  Court rejects Obama efforts to reverse Bush mining changes U.S. District Judge Henry H. Kennedy Jr. seems to be anti-environment from what I have read this afternoon.      Was horrified when I saw that yellow/orange stream picture.  Streams in WV are supposed to be clean and clear.     Big secret that the coal companies don't want you to know is that the use of coal has dropped a lot recently.  Since the big wind farms are being put up nation wide.  There is still hope.  West Virginia(and other states nearby) is still beautiful.  Would like to see it stay that way.  Cuz Gracie from Okla ________________________________ From: "BurgessWV@aol.com" <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: wvlogan@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 5:31:53 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Makes me sad. Cousin Gracie ; Are you referring to the story about the two people in treetops protesting mountaintop removal ? I hope it gets national attention ; but at the present time we must rely on  coal as an energy source, until a better way comes along. At any rate, our beautiful mountains should NOT be destroyed. There are other ways to mine coal. Cuz Shelby ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message