Possible from the biblical name; Gomorrah. When God destroyed the evil city, it left a mess., Called a Gom by mountain people. "dreckly " was a mountain word ; " I will start supper dreckly( directly ) meaning a short time later on. " spoondiken" was term used to signify courtship of a couple.Also called "courtin" Shelby

Adeline McNeeley is one of my foremothers. She married Ancel Clendenin/Clendenen and they went to Cass County, MI with one of his cousins and a Hinchman girl, too. They had a daughter there but then went all the way back to what is now Boone County. I have that she married Amos Workman as a widow. However, I don't have the proof, either. Sharon Lee Gates

I agree with the carelessness of those who were reporting their ages. Also noticed that some women were Married but there was no husband in the home, then later, Divorced, then Widowed, etc. Of course, it is possible they thought they were now a widow and not divorced if their ex-husband had died since the divorce! Also, I just think our mountain ancestors of 100 years ago didn't keep as close track of their ages, since nobody really cared. When you are living day-to-day, just trying to survive, who cares about your age? I HAVE seen children without names, just surname and a BLANK. Then, ten years later you can see they finally have a name. One is a great-great-great uncle named Van Buren EPLIN(g). His mother, Mary, was never married, not at 17, when he was born, or ever thereafter and there is no father even listed on his death certificate many years later. She died a single woman. I also found one gggg grandmother GUNNOE, Eliza HICKS, a blind pauper widow, and living with people of a different last name, maybe an early form of Assisted Living. I think there was some connotation of help from the county when one was listed as a Pauper in the Census. I have seen that many times in the Boone County Census. Sharon

I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" which meant making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was another variation. Sharon Lee Gates Apopka, FL

Jim, That looks accurate, according to the Boone County censuses. There was a big difference in their ages, wasn't there? In the 1870 Boone County WV census, Calvary Bias age 41 was married to Julia Ann age 39. I see Calvary's first marriage record in the early Logan County marriages file. He married Julia Ann Perry on August 2, 1855, daughter of Henry Perry. Calvary Bias was son of Obediah and Rachel. By 1900, Calvary was widowed. He was listed as age 67, born in May 1833. In 1910, he was listed as Calvin Bias, age 76, married twice, this time for 5 years. His wife Rosella was 28, married once, two children, one of them living. Their son was listed as Frank D., age 4. In 1920, he was again listed as Calvin Bias, and he was age 86. His wife Rosella was 39, and their son was listed as Dennis age 13. The marriage record of Calvary and Rosella on Sept. 8, 1904 said that Calvary was age 70 and widowed, born in and a resident of Boone County, WV, and Rosella Nichols was age 23 and single, born in and a resident of Logan County, WV. Rosella's parents were listed as "Emphrym" Nichols and Nervy Blankenship. 1900 Boone Co, WV, Washington Dist, p. 215B. 1910 Boone Co, WV, Washington Dist, p. 241B. 1920 Boone Co, WV, Washington Dist, p. 139B. Vanessa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Did Rosella Nichols born 1881 Logan County marry Calvary Bias born 1833? Record shows that they were married 8 Sep 1904 in Logan County, West Virginia. Then they had a son Dennis Franklin Bias born 6 Feb 1906 Is this possible. Jim Burgess ==============================

Ok Loganites....Im looking for death notices.....so if yall can help me....ok first for Maude Bennett Johnson born July 28 1904 died in Logan Feb 28 1968, I have her death certificate, Im looking for newspaper clipping she was my mother in law second for Vance Bennett he was born Jan 8 1857 and died in Mcdowell County Feb 4 1933 I have a death certificate but no newspaper clipping for him he was my Mother in law Dad third for a Eston H Bennett the black sheep of the family....he was born March 2 1900and died in Mcdowell county April 14,1978....I dont have a death certificate for him just a card from Fanning Funeral home in Iaeger....I know he was in prison, but what for I dont know? How can I find this out?? any help will be greatly appreciated...thanks as I find more I will share with you.....Maude is buried up at Pecks Mill,,,,,,Vance in Iaeger Memorial and Eston in Chritian-Roberts...thanks and God Bless....Helen & Jerry Johnson

No I cant remember that train accident,Jim Sorry. Shelby

James Abner Burgess,s/o Fernandes, lived in the last house on Spruce Fork.Over the hill was Rum Creek. Him & Renna (Smith ) Burgess had 11 children. He had a speech impairment, and hard to understand at times. When Abb found out his daughter was sweet on Garland Wooten, he gave her some advice; " Angelina, you better marry that Garland Wooten; he can find more gen seng than any man in this country can". This was told to me by Mr. Wooten. Shelby

Joel; That has been my wall for some time. I dont know if Louisa Jane fibbed to the clerk on her marriage licence application, or not.Louisa jane was 40 years of age when she married James H. Elkins. I have heard of women having kids at age 49 (Jane's age )but its rare. I have also been told that Nancy,,wife of James Workman, was a Webb, but cant find any proof. Thanks. Shelby

Jim & Shelby, I have been much confused on the Louisa Workmans from census records and it took me a while to straighten them out. I just looked at the 1850 Logan County and Boone County census again. Jane Moore Workman is listed in the 1850 Logan County census. The last two children are Benjamin age 8 and Valentine age 2. Valentine later appears as Valentine Nelson in the 1860 Boone County census with Jane Moore Workman s/o Greenville and Margaret Ann (Workman) Nelson per 1860 Boone County annotated census by Sigfus Olafson. James M. and Nancy (Jarrell) Workman are listed in the 1850 Boone County census with daughter Louisa J. age 1. 31-B 7 414 414 WORKMAN JAMES 43 M FARMER 400 VIRGINIA 31-B 8 414 414 WORKMAN NANCY 19 F VIRGINIA 31-B 9 414 414 WORKMAN LOUISA J. 1 F VIRGINIA James s/o John and Jane (Moore) disappears after the 1850 census. He is listed as being in Company E, 11th Virginia Infantry in the Mexican War in the Kith and Kin Vol II 1850 annotated census. The Mexican War was from 1846-48. Nancy Jarrell m. Isaac H. Workman April 24, 1855 in Boone County, (West) Virginia. Louisa Jane Workman is listed in the 1860 as age 11 born in Boone County with Jane (Moore) Workman as follows: Jane Workman 61 Bath Benjamin 18 Logan Louisa J. 11 Boone Valentine Nelson 12 Boone Nancy Jane 8 Boone Ruhama 6 Boone William Workman 21 Logan John Dent 20 Kanawha Darcus 22 Logan Virginia E. 11/12 Boone Louisa J. and William Workman do not appear in the 1860 Boone County annotated census by Sigfus Olafson for some reason. I have concluded that Louisa J. Workman was the d/o James M. and Nancy (Jarrell) Workman by her location in the 1850 census and she was raised by Jane Moore Workman. I guess I could be wrong and she was a late child born to John and Jane (Moore) Workman that was living with her son and new wife Nancy Jarrell or perhaps she was missing from the 1850 Logan County census. I know Shelby and Norma have always maintained that Louisa Jane Workman was the d/o John and Jane (Moore) Workman and perhaps they know better than I. Plus you have the marriage record for Louisa Jane Workman to James H. P. Elkins. Joel -----Original Message----- From: BurgessWV@aol.com [mailto:BurgessWV@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:11 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda Frances????? Alameda Francis Hager Workman was b.1872- d. 5- 17 1956. She was known as Fanny; Her parents were Alfred Hager & Louisa J. Workman. They were not wed.She m. Anthony Baisden,s/o John & Tena Dempsey B aisden. Anthony was b. 1849, so he was 23 years her senior.Anthony was previously married to Gerordannis Lake.She died and Anthony wed Alameda Francis (Fanny ) Hager. Louisa Jane Workman later m. James H. Elkins 1887. on her marriage application Louisa states she is the dau. of John & Jane (Moore ) Workman. Great grandpa Alfred Hager was quiet the Cassanova of his time, begetting kids by four different women.I believe he was the reason for his father (Rev. Robert Hager) to )leave Boone co. Wv and go to Ky , where he died. Alameda Francis was my grandmother Joel and I share the same great grandfather,Alfred A.Hager. Shelby ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Shelby Do you remember this train accident? thanks Jim -----Original Message----- From: BurgessWV@aol.com [mailto:BurgessWV@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:30 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mr Bell Burgess Toler Crushed by Railway Train James Abner Burgess,s/o Fernandes, lived in the last house on Spruce Fork.Over the hill was Rum Creek. Him & Renna (Smith ) Burgess had 11 children. He had a speech impairment, and hard to understand at times. When Abb found out his daughter was sweet on Garland Wooten, he gave her some advice; " Angelina, you better marry that Garland Wooten; he can find more gen seng than any man in this country can". This was told to me by Mr. Wooten. Shelby ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Joel Hager wrote: Hi Joel.....This Louisa Jane workman ........Was this a Louisa Workman, b. 1868 & dau. of Alfred Workman & Hestor Bowen Are they the same.......Denzil Woodson... >Gracie, > >Yes there are many errors in what is out there on the Internet. This is >Shelby's family and also my relation to Shelby. Anthony Baisden m. Almedia >Frances Hager d/o Alfred Allen Hager and Louisa Jane Workman. This >relationship contributed to a divorce between Alfred Allen Hager and Mahala >Toney. Alfred is listed as divorced in the 1880 Boone County census. >Mahala was in my ancestor John McKinley Hager's household. Mahala remained >with John Hager's family and Alfred moved to Martin County, Kentucky where >he married twice and had at least 4 more children in a marriage to Victoria >Copley. The first child Anthony Hager was born June 1883 in West Virginia. >Victoria Copley was the d/o Anthony and Penelopy (Copley) Copley. Charles >W. Hager was born April 1885 in Kentucky; Henry Sanford Hager was born April >1888 in Kentucky and Ella W. W. Hager was born April 1891 in Kentucky. I >believe Henry Sanford Hager m. Ethel and was found in the 1920 Mingo County, >West Virginia census with 2 children Burnedine Hager age 5 and Omega Hager >age 3. I have no further record of the other three children from the >marriage to Victoria Copley. Alfred next m. Helen Delong who had 3 children >Juanita/Wanita Delong b. abt. 1880 in Kentucky; Marian (f) Delong b. abt. >1883 in Kentucky and Daniel Delong b. abt. 1890 in Kentucky. I do not know >the maiden name of Helen but Helen Hager is in the 1910 Lick Branch, Martin >County census with Alfred Hager and Helen Hager is in the 1920 Martin County >census as widowed. Daniel Delong m. Hilda and had Ona, Ira, Helen, Elmer >and Walton Delong. Any information on this Delong family would be greatly >appreciated. Perhaps a lookup for the marriage of Daniel Delong in Martin >County may help. > >Joel > >-----Original Message----- >From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:33 PM >To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda >Frances????? > >Ok, everyone > > I have been doing research again and am totally confused. What was the >name >of Anthony Baisden's second wife????? She is listed as Alameda F. in the >1920 census. > >Washington, Boone, West Virginia; >Roll: T625_1949; Page: 7B; >Enumeration District: 7; Image: 290. > >Gracie in Okla. > > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > >

Alameda Francis Hager Workman was b.1872- d. 5- 17 1956. She was known as Fanny; Her parents were Alfred Hager & Louisa J. Workman. They were not wed.She m. Anthony Baisden,s/o John & Tena Dempsey B aisden. Anthony was b. 1849, so he was 23 years her senior.Anthony was previously married to Gerordannis Lake.She died and Anthony wed Alameda Francis (Fanny ) Hager. Louisa Jane Workman later m. James H. Elkins 1887. on her marriage application Louisa states she is the dau. of John & Jane (Moore ) Workman. Great grandpa Alfred Hager was quiet the Cassanova of his time, begetting kids by four different women.I believe he was the reason for his father (Rev. Robert Hager) to )leave Boone co. Wv and go to Ky , where he died. Alameda Francis was my grandmother Joel and I share the same great grandfather,Alfred A.Hager. Shelby

I do not know this family Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 7:11 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda Frances????? Jim & Shelby, I have been much confused on the Louisa Workmans from census records and it took me a while to straighten them out. I just looked at the 1850 Logan County and Boone County census again. Jane Moore Workman is listed in the 1850 Logan County census. The last two children are Benjamin age 8 and Valentine age 2. Valentine later appears as Valentine Nelson in the 1860 Boone County census with Jane Moore Workman s/o Greenville and Margaret Ann (Workman) Nelson per 1860 Boone County annotated census by Sigfus Olafson. James M. and Nancy (Jarrell) Workman are listed in the 1850 Boone County census with daughter Louisa J. age 1. 31-B 7 414 414 WORKMAN JAMES 43 M FARMER 400 VIRGINIA 31-B 8 414 414 WORKMAN NANCY 19 F VIRGINIA 31-B 9 414 414 WORKMAN LOUISA J. 1 F VIRGINIA James s/o John and Jane (Moore) disappears after the 1850 census. He is listed as being in Company E, 11th Virginia Infantry in the Mexican War in the Kith and Kin Vol II 1850 annotated census. The Mexican War was from 1846-48. Nancy Jarrell m. Isaac H. Workman April 24, 1855 in Boone County, (West) Virginia. Louisa Jane Workman is listed in the 1860 as age 11 born in Boone County with Jane (Moore) Workman as follows: Jane Workman 61 Bath Benjamin 18 Logan Louisa J. 11 Boone Valentine Nelson 12 Boone Nancy Jane 8 Boone Ruhama 6 Boone William Workman 21 Logan John Dent 20 Kanawha Darcus 22 Logan Virginia E. 11/12 Boone Louisa J. and William Workman do not appear in the 1860 Boone County annotated census by Sigfus Olafson for some reason. I have concluded that Louisa J. Workman was the d/o James M. and Nancy (Jarrell) Workman by her location in the 1850 census and she was raised by Jane Moore Workman. I guess I could be wrong and she was a late child born to John and Jane (Moore) Workman that was living with her son and new wife Nancy Jarrell or perhaps she was missing from the 1850 Logan County census. I know Shelby and Norma have always maintained that Louisa Jane Workman was the d/o John and Jane (Moore) Workman and perhaps they know better than I. Plus you have the marriage record for Louisa Jane Workman to James H. P. Elkins. Joel -----Original Message----- From: BurgessWV@aol.com [mailto:BurgessWV@aol.com] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 8:11 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda Frances????? Alameda Francis Hager Workman was b.1872- d. 5- 17 1956. She was known as Fanny; Her parents were Alfred Hager & Louisa J. Workman. They were not wed.She m. Anthony Baisden,s/o John & Tena Dempsey B aisden. Anthony was b. 1849, so he was 23 years her senior.Anthony was previously married to Gerordannis Lake.She died and Anthony wed Alameda Francis (Fanny ) Hager. Louisa Jane Workman later m. James H. Elkins 1887. on her marriage application Louisa states she is the dau. of John & Jane (Moore ) Workman. Great grandpa Alfred Hager was quiet the Cassanova of his time, begetting kids by four different women.I believe he was the reason for his father (Rev. Robert Hager) to )leave Boone co. Wv and go to Ky , where he died. Alameda Francis was my grandmother Joel and I share the same great grandfather,Alfred A.Hager. Shelby ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and family, I a copying the death records in Wyoming County, West Virginia Found this interested death record! Are her parents James Abnert Burgess and Marcena Rennie Smith Are the parents of Rennie Smith - William Smith and Rhoda Toler Any one hear about this? What a way to go! Wyoming County, West Virginia Death Records Mrs Bell Toler Housewife Father Ab Burgess Mother Rennie Burgess Born May 12, 1881 Logan County, West Virginia Informant Perry Toler 70 years born Logan County, West Virginia Female White Married Died 26 Mar 1941 Burial 29 Mar 1941 Simon Cemetery, West Virginia Killed at Simon West Virginia - Crushed by Railway Train - Dismembered I am finding that a lot of our family died in the mines or mine related deaths! Had not thought to much about this before! Jim Burgess

Whew, Joel, you got into people I have never heard of before. But did confirm what I thought. Her name was Alameda Frances and I had the right parents, also. I kinda got the impression that Alfred was a bit of a rounder. [Just read Shelby's mail and I like Cassanova better.] Oh, now this is getting funny, Anthony Baisden was my mother's 1st cousin 1 time removed and Almeda Frances was her 3rd cousin 1 time removed. But they were not cousins to each other. . Oh, what a tangled web we weave when we first do genie. Joking!!!!! Gracie in Okla. connecting surnames: Toney/Workman/Baisden/Hager ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Hager" <joel.hager@us.army.mil> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:15 PM Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda Frances????? > Gracie, > > Yes there are many errors in what is out there on the Internet. This is > Shelby's family and also my relation to Shelby. Anthony Baisden m. Almedia > Frances Hager d/o Alfred Allen Hager and Louisa Jane Workman. This > relationship contributed to a divorce between Alfred Allen Hager and Mahala > Toney. Alfred is listed as divorced in the 1880 Boone County census. > Mahala was in my ancestor John McKinley Hager's household. Mahala remained > with John Hager's family and Alfred moved to Martin County, Kentucky where > he married twice and had at least 4 more children in a marriage to Victoria > Copley. The first child Anthony Hager was born June 1883 in West Virginia. > Victoria Copley was the d/o Anthony and Penelopy (Copley) Copley. Charles > W. Hager was born April 1885 in Kentucky; Henry Sanford Hager was born April > 1888 in Kentucky and Ella W. W. Hager was born April 1891 in Kentucky. I > believe Henry Sanford Hager m. Ethel and was found in the 1920 Mingo County, > West Virginia census with 2 children Burnedine Hager age 5 and Omega Hager > age 3. I have no further record of the other three children from the > marriage to Victoria Copley. Alfred next m. Helen Delong who had 3 children > Juanita/Wanita Delong b. abt. 1880 in Kentucky; Marian (f) Delong b. abt. > 1883 in Kentucky and Daniel Delong b. abt. 1890 in Kentucky. I do not know > the maiden name of Helen but Helen Hager is in the 1910 Lick Branch, Martin > County census with Alfred Hager and Helen Hager is in the 1920 Martin County > census as widowed. Daniel Delong m. Hilda and had Ona, Ira, Helen, Elmer > and Walton Delong. Any information on this Delong family would be greatly > appreciated. Perhaps a lookup for the marriage of Daniel Delong in Martin > County may help. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:33 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda > Frances????? > > Ok, everyone > > I have been doing research again and am totally confused. What was the > name > of Anthony Baisden's second wife????? She is listed as Alameda F. in the > 1920 census. > > Washington, Boone, West Virginia; > Roll: T625_1949; Page: 7B; > Enumeration District: 7; Image: 290. > > Gracie in Okla. > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Gracie, Yes there are many errors in what is out there on the Internet. This is Shelby's family and also my relation to Shelby. Anthony Baisden m. Almedia Frances Hager d/o Alfred Allen Hager and Louisa Jane Workman. This relationship contributed to a divorce between Alfred Allen Hager and Mahala Toney. Alfred is listed as divorced in the 1880 Boone County census. Mahala was in my ancestor John McKinley Hager's household. Mahala remained with John Hager's family and Alfred moved to Martin County, Kentucky where he married twice and had at least 4 more children in a marriage to Victoria Copley. The first child Anthony Hager was born June 1883 in West Virginia. Victoria Copley was the d/o Anthony and Penelopy (Copley) Copley. Charles W. Hager was born April 1885 in Kentucky; Henry Sanford Hager was born April 1888 in Kentucky and Ella W. W. Hager was born April 1891 in Kentucky. I believe Henry Sanford Hager m. Ethel and was found in the 1920 Mingo County, West Virginia census with 2 children Burnedine Hager age 5 and Omega Hager age 3. I have no further record of the other three children from the marriage to Victoria Copley. Alfred next m. Helen Delong who had 3 children Juanita/Wanita Delong b. abt. 1880 in Kentucky; Marian (f) Delong b. abt. 1883 in Kentucky and Daniel Delong b. abt. 1890 in Kentucky. I do not know the maiden name of Helen but Helen Hager is in the 1910 Lick Branch, Martin County census with Alfred Hager and Helen Hager is in the 1920 Martin County census as widowed. Daniel Delong m. Hilda and had Ona, Ira, Helen, Elmer and Walton Delong. Any information on this Delong family would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps a lookup for the marriage of Daniel Delong in Martin County may help. Joel -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:33 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Hager, Mary Frances/Elizabeth Frances/Alameda Frances????? Ok, everyone I have been doing research again and am totally confused. What was the name of Anthony Baisden's second wife????? She is listed as Alameda F. in the 1920 census. Washington, Boone, West Virginia; Roll: T625_1949; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 7; Image: 290. Gracie in Okla. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

That was a funny story about Grandma Lovey--the midwife with the long skirt. I read a book many years ago called "The Americans" which is a social history from the beginning colonies and it is said that most women did not wear pantaloons for every day until the Victorian Age and I can certainly understand why it was easier not to do so! Ha ha--good story! Sharon Lee Gates Apopka, FL

Ok, everyone I have been doing research again and am totally confused. What was the name of Anthony Baisden's second wife????? She is listed as Alameda F. in the 1920 census. Washington, Boone, West Virginia; Roll: T625_1949; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 7; Image: 290. Gracie in Okla.

Gracie, We have spent our lives doing this stuff. We are not motivated by $$. We need to be sure our family information is left for others so they do not have to retract our steps. My Burgess family has a lot of information www.surnames.com (see published gedcoms) I have my direct family and my Burgess file. That information has been preserved and will not be lost. I need to do the same with the other information. At the very least we need to see that this information is left in Logan County before we pass away. I am 62 going on 63. I am really trying to prepare everything for family members in West Virginia. My family is from Logan County the records need to be there. Just imagine going into a library in Logan and finding hard copies of what everyone on the list has done. It would be a wonderful thing for furture generations. Hope everyone agrees, especially those of us who have been researching for years. What families beside Hager are you working on? Is there anyone lurking on the list who should do the same? Are you going to put the data in your casket? thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:41 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going to be bigger than the Burgess Family Jim, I agree with you completely on more books being written. Even if there are some mistakes, as long as it is noted that some information might need more research. I don't think a thing about sharing what I am sure about with most researchers. I figure that the more people who have the correct information, the better. At one time, I set up for family home pages to print out. I don't know if I did it wrong but when my printer program hit 10,000 pages, I shut it off. I still don't understand why the number went that high because I only had about 4,000 people in my files. Mayby it was going to include all the notes which have personal e-mails included. Anyway, right now all my research is in computer(no burner) and on GenCircles for safekeeping. I would love to put it in book form but really don't know how to do that yet. Guess I should take a class or something. I should mention something that I didn't know before. CDs only last about ten years at the most in prime conditions. So they need to be updated long before that. I also would love to find a copy of the Hager Family History book that was written in McPherson Co., Kansas. Have not found that one yet. Somewhere hidden in puter is the name of the person that compiled that book. Probably in my e-mail program. I am close to figuring out exactly when my gggrandfather, George Washington Hager, [s/o John Morgan and Elizabeth Jane (Miller) Hager] died. (BTW, John Morgan WAS a Major, that was not his first name.) I recently got the probate records for both George W. Hager and Eliza Ann (Baisden) Hager. Proof in those that his doctor was the father in law of his son William McDaniel. I was amazed at how long it took to finish the probate because of the traveling judge at the time. Over three years for both. Well, enough for now. Gracie in Okla. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 11:56 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Burgess file has 725 pages Toler Family is going to be bigger than the Burgess Family > Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and cousins, > > I am trying to figure out how big the Toler file is going to be. > > I never dreamed that I could find as many Toler Descendants of David Toler > and Susanna as I did for William Burgess and Susann of Bedford County, > Virginia. > > The Burgess file has approximately 725 pages. > > The Toler file tonight has 425 pages of information and I have not even > begun. > It is a little discouraging to think how many pages I am going to have on > the Toler > family. > > Nathaniel Mullins file is about 250 (not near as big as the others) > Have not begun! > > William Browning and Catherine Anglin is approximately 325 - I stopped to > work on the > Toler Family. > > Abner Vance and Susanna Howard (who knows - It must be the biggest by far) > > Burgess, Mullins, Browning, Brown and Allied Families was around 300 pages. > > I thought it was a good book - I guess it was for 1978. > > Just imagine if we wrote the book today it would have over 2500 (maybe over > 3,000) pages of information. > > Hard to believe that we have had such an explosion of information since > 1978. > > I believe with a lot of work there could be a 1,000 pages of information on > each of these > families except for the Mullins family which was a small family all things > considered! > > If my health holds out I would like to go back to West Virginia to contact > family > that lives there in about 5 years. > > I need a gate keeper to take this project before I kick off! > > _______ > > Just a thought it would be great if a lot of people on the list would work > on putting > all the descendants of their Logan County Ancestors in a book or on a web > site or on a data > base that could be shared with future generations! > > At the very least I am going to print these booklets out and donate them to > the libaries > in Logan and Wyoming Counties and the Geneaogical Societies. > > I would like to see families that are close to my families the Perry, > Hinchman, White, > Hager, Walker, Cook, Blankenship, Belcher, Grimmett, Bailey, Cline, Dempsey, > Combs, Jarrell, Smith, Cow Creek Brownings, Robinett. 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