All, I believe that John Wesley Adkins that married Sarah Adkins was the s/o Luke and Cynthia (Smith) Adkins. That would make them first cousins. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2006 10:38 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Sarah Adkins All, I have found two death records for a Sarah 'Sally' Ann Adkins for December 16, 1926 in Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County, West Virginia. One for Sally Adkins has her birth as October 14, 1829 d/o Lewis and Sifie (Austin) and the other for Sarah Ann Adkins has her husband as John Wesley Adkins and parents as John Wesley and Sarah Ann Adkins which is obviously an error but it has her age as 91 which probably closer to being correct. She was also listed as having lived in the community for 75 years. Lewis and Libby (Haner) Adkins have the oldest child as Sarah Adkins age 14 in the 1850 Boone County, (West) Virginia census. The next child is Austin Adkins age 13 who died during the Civil War. The oldest daughter Delona Adkins was married Russell Hager July 25, 1846. I have wondered if Lewis Adkins married a first wife since Delona was born abt. 1831 and Lewis Adkins and Elizabeth 'Libby' Haner were supposed to have been married in 1834. Some have Lewis Adkins as being married a second time to Sarah. I believe the Sarah age 23 born in Logan County in the 1860 Boone County census was his daughter. A John and Sarah Adkins appear in the 1870 Jefferson Dist. Lincoln County Census as follows: John Adkins 34 Sarah 38 Evaline 4 Sarah E. 3 Venila 1 I have not found John and Sarah Adkins in the 1880 census. Sarah Adkins appears in the 1900 Carroll Dist., Lincoln County census as follows: Sarah Adkins Oct 1840 widowed with 10 children and 6 living Eveline Oct 1871 West Virginia Louisa Jun 1878 West Virginia Rufus May 1881 West Virginia U. Delmer Jan 1892 West Virginia Enoch Jul 1894 grandson Possible daughter in next family George Smith Nov 1874 Jennie Dec 1881 She appears in the 1910 Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County census as follows: Sarah Adkins 60 10 children 3 living Evaline 42 Single Louisa 33 Single McKinley Hatfield 10 grandson James Hatfield 7 grandson Sarah Ella Adkins appears in the 1900 Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County census m. Joseph Hatfield as follows: Joseph Hatfield May 1853 married 10 years Sarah E. May 1863 Charles V. Feb 1889 Mirtie M. May 1891 Josephine Jul 1893 Jemima Jan 1896 William Mc. Sep 1897 Sarah Adkins appears in the 1920 Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County Census as follows: Thomas N. Browning 69 Eveline 52 Hersel 12 Sarah Adkins mother in law 79 Eveline Adkins m. Thomas Nicholas Browing aft. 1910. Evaline Browning is the witness on both death records. Does anyone know who the parents of Joseph Hatfield are? Maybe Andrew L. and Frances (Pinnell) Hatfield. Joel ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

All, I have found two death records for a Sarah 'Sally' Ann Adkins for December 16, 1926 in Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County, West Virginia. One for Sally Adkins has her birth as October 14, 1829 d/o Lewis and Sifie (Austin) and the other for Sarah Ann Adkins has her husband as John Wesley Adkins and parents as John Wesley and Sarah Ann Adkins which is obviously an error but it has her age as 91 which probably closer to being correct. She was also listed as having lived in the community for 75 years. Lewis and Libby (Haner) Adkins have the oldest child as Sarah Adkins age 14 in the 1850 Boone County, (West) Virginia census. The next child is Austin Adkins age 13 who died during the Civil War. The oldest daughter Delona Adkins was married Russell Hager July 25, 1846. I have wondered if Lewis Adkins married a first wife since Delona was born abt. 1831 and Lewis Adkins and Elizabeth 'Libby' Haner were supposed to have been married in 1834. Some have Lewis Adkins as being married a second time to Sarah. I believe the Sarah age 23 born in Logan County in the 1860 Boone County census was his daughter. A John and Sarah Adkins appear in the 1870 Jefferson Dist. Lincoln County Census as follows: John Adkins 34 Sarah 38 Evaline 4 Sarah E. 3 Venila 1 I have not found John and Sarah Adkins in the 1880 census. Sarah Adkins appears in the 1900 Carroll Dist., Lincoln County census as follows: Sarah Adkins Oct 1840 widowed with 10 children and 6 living Eveline Oct 1871 West Virginia Louisa Jun 1878 West Virginia Rufus May 1881 West Virginia U. Delmer Jan 1892 West Virginia Enoch Jul 1894 grandson Possible daughter in next family George Smith Nov 1874 Jennie Dec 1881 She appears in the 1910 Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County census as follows: Sarah Adkins 60 10 children 3 living Evaline 42 Single Louisa 33 Single McKinley Hatfield 10 grandson James Hatfield 7 grandson Sarah Ella Adkins appears in the 1900 Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County census m. Joseph Hatfield as follows: Joseph Hatfield May 1853 married 10 years Sarah E. May 1863 Charles V. Feb 1889 Mirtie M. May 1891 Josephine Jul 1893 Jemima Jan 1896 William Mc. Sep 1897 Sarah Adkins appears in the 1920 Hamlin, Carroll Dist., Lincoln County Census as follows: Thomas N. Browning 69 Eveline 52 Hersel 12 Sarah Adkins mother in law 79 Eveline Adkins m. Thomas Nicholas Browing aft. 1910. Evaline Browning is the witness on both death records. Does anyone know who the parents of Joseph Hatfield are? Maybe Andrew L. and Frances (Pinnell) Hatfield. Joel

This may be the site referred to. A while back many of us were adding some phrases we knew of and this web site was the outcome of it. Judi http://www.loganwv.homestead.com/LoganSpeak.html

Jim, In my opinion James Doliver Toler was the s/o William Chapman and Sarah Isabell (Perry) Toler. He married Florence Burgess d/o Joseph W. and Annie (Belcher) Burgess. James was listed as b. August 1887 in the 1900 Stafford Dist., Mingo County, West Virginia census with Chap and Sarah I. Toler. William C. and Sarah E. Toler were listed with James D. age 22 in the 1910 Gilbert Dist. Mingo County census. Perhaps Sarah was Sarah Elizabeth 'Isabell' Perry. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 1:53 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] James Dolliver Toler - How does he fit into the Toler Clan - Here is his death record! I do not see a Chap Toler who matches who had a son named James Dolliver TOLER? Logan County, West Virginia Death Records James Dolliver TOLER died Aug 7, 1955 Place of Death Logan County, West Virginia Residence Christian, West Virginia Male White Married Date of Birth Nov 1886 age 69 Miner Coal Industry Birthplace Verner, West Virginia Father Chap Toler Mother Elizabeth Disease Cancer of the Prostate Gland Verner Cemetery Jim Burgess ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

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Hey You Fellow Mountaineers, Lets not confuse our mountain talk with that other language sometimes spoken in these here United States, namely English. Muck is a common word in the English language, and all the definitions presented here are derivations, such as cleaning the barnyard and cleanup in the mine. Check Webster. Remember the term "muckrakers" applied to investigative reporters? Now thats appropriate slang considering that they usually go after the ---- in Washington. I guess we Appalachian folk understand about gom and gum in our vernacular. They both have definite but different meanings. I suspect gom and gommin are distinctly Appalachian, but gum and gumming (like gumming up the works) seem to be common everywhere. I suspect the usage in the context we refer to comes from the idea of how otherwise smooth running machinery is impacted if the oil gets thick (like gum). (It's all MESSED UP.) A few years back, I found a website that listed hundreds of mountain expressions like these and it requested people to add their own memorable phrases. I submitted several, but have lost the address as I changed computers. Those in my approximate age bracket will understand this expression that is similar to what I so often heard as a boy: "If you don't get this "GOM" cleaned up this instant, I am going to WEAR YOU OUT." Did your parents ever threaten to wear you out? STAN > Dad always said when we kids were messing something up(but I would not > have known a spelling) "You are gumming up the works", perhaps this > was the same as gom as he was a Logan mountain boy:) > Judi > > Carole Hammond wrote: > >> Out here in the Wild West you also muck out a horse or cow barn. >> This involves moving a lot of manure. >> >> When I heard muckin' and gommin I immediately thought of BSing and >> gumming or talking. I've been accused of both. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> >> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk >> >> >>> Muckin is term used by coal miners; means removing rock,dirt,etc >>> from the >>> salable coal >>> >>> Shelby >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >>> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >>> Learn more: >>> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/ >>> tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

James D. Toler's father William Chapman Toler was the son of Isaac Martin Toler and Courtney Barnes. James D.'s mother was Sarah Isabel Perry. In the 1900 census, he was listed as James Toler, age 12, born in Aug 1887, in Mingo Co. census, p. 92-19B. His parents, listed as Chap and Sarah I., had been married for 25 years. In 1910, he was listed as James D. Toler, age 22, in Mingo Co. census, p. 153-09B. His parents, listed as W. Chapman and Sarah E., had been married for 35 years. (His mother was listed as Sarah E., but she must have been Sarah Isabel since she'd been married to W. Chapman Toler for 35 years.) By 1920, James D. Toler was married and living in Triadelphia District of Logan Co., p. 197A, near his wife's parents Joseph and Ann Belcher Burgess. James' father Chapman Toler was still in Mingo County, in Gilbert Precinct. Chapman Toler's youngest son Wayne was still in his household, but Chapman's wife was listed as ELIZABETH. I don't know if Chapman's wife Sarah Isabel died and Chapman remarried, or if Sarah Isabel changed her name to Elizabeth. (Remember, Sarah I. was listed as Sarah E. in the 1910 census, and she'd been married to Chapman for 35 years.) The ages in the censuses don't help much. Sarah Isabel Perry was the daughter of Eli Perry and Mary Ann Johnson. In the 1860 census, Sarah Isabel Perry was listed as Sarah I., age 6, and in 1870 she was listed as Isabella. Her Wyoming County birth record in 1854 said Isabel. Sarah Isabel Perry was a little bit older than her husband William Chapman Toler, but she was listed as being a little bit younger than him on their marriage record and in most of the censuses after they were married. Chapman Toler was listed as William C. age 4 in the 1860 Wyoming Co. census, in the household of his parents Isaac M. and Courtney. In 1870, Chapman age 14 was living with his sister Nancy and her husband James Dolliver Brown. Chapman was listed as 44 in 1900 (born in 1856), 54 in 1910, and 61 in 1920. In 1910, his wife was listed as Sarah E. age 47, and in 1920, his wife was listed as Elizabeth age 57. When they were married in 1875, Wm. C. Toler was listed as 2 years older than Sarah I. Perry, ages 24 and 22. He was actually 19 and she was 21. (They were married by my grandpa's uncle, David Kemper Stafford.) Of course, it's not unusual to see the ages vary somewhat in the censuses. The 1920 census explains why James Dolliver Toler's death certificate in 1955 listed his parents as Chapman Toler and Elizabeth. But I don't know if Elizabeth was the same as Sarah Isabel, or if Elizabeth was James Dolliver Toler's stepmother. Vanessa ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> Subject: [WVLOGAN] James Dolliver Toler - How does he fit into the Toler Clan - Here is his death record! I do not see a Chap Toler who matches who had a son named James Dolliver TOLER? Logan County, West Virginia Death Records James Dolliver TOLER died Aug 7, 1955 Place of Death Logan County, West Virginia Residence Christian, West Virginia Male White Married Date of Birth Nov 1886 age 69 Miner Coal Industry Birthplace Verner, West Virginia Father Chap Toler Mother Elizabeth Disease Cancer of the Prostate Gland Verner Cemetery Jim Burgess

I do not see a Chap Toler who matches who had a son named James Dolliver TOLER? Logan County, West Virginia Death Records James Dolliver TOLER died Aug 7, 1955 Place of Death Logan County, West Virginia Residence Christian, West Virginia Male White Married Date of Birth Nov 1886 age 69 Miner Coal Industry Birthplace Verner, West Virginia Father Chap Toler Mother Elizabeth Disease Cancer of the Prostate Gland Verner Cemetery Jim Burgess

Hello - I've read two of Dr. Brent Kennedy's books on Appalachian people and their ancestry. In one of them he mentions gommin ("gaumin'") and muckin' as being straight from the Anatolian dialect of Turkey. Rick > > From: "dkb" <dkb@greenapple.com> > Date: 2006/04/12 Wed PM 06:32:00 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > Well Jim I have too. LOL... > I thought it was funny because I still say that to my kids and they are > grown adults. Something's you never loose. > > K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:13 PM > Subject: RE: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > >I have been called a lot worse > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dkb [mailto:dkb@greenapple.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:10 PM > > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > > > > I'm not a turk? :) > > > > K > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> > > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > > > >> Gommin and muckin are Turkish expressions. Rick > >>> > >>> From: SGates1949@aol.com > >>> Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 04:24:15 EDT > >>> To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > >>> > >>> I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and > >>> reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" > >>> which > >>> meant > >>> making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was > >>> another > >>> variation. > >>> > >>> > >>> Sharon Lee Gates > >>> Apopka, FL > >>> > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Dad always said when we kids were messing something up(but I would not have known a spelling) "You are gumming up the works", perhaps this was the same as gom as he was a Logan mountain boy:) Judi Carole Hammond wrote: > Out here in the Wild West you also muck out a horse or cow barn. This > involves moving a lot of manure. > > When I heard muckin' and gommin I immediately thought of BSing and > gumming or talking. I've been accused of both. > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:41 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > >> Muckin is term used by coal miners; means removing rock,dirt,etc from >> the >> salable coal >> >> Shelby >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > >

Well, ya'll, down heah in Okla, we say: "Gumming up the works". Means you really made a mess of that. G ----- Original Message ----- From: "dkb" <dkb@greenapple.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 5:32 PM Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > Well Jim I have too. LOL... > I thought it was funny because I still say that to my kids and they are > grown adults. Something's you never loose. > > K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:13 PM > Subject: RE: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > >I have been called a lot worse > > Jim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: dkb [mailto:dkb@greenapple.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:10 PM > > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > > > > I'm not a turk? :) > > > > K > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> > > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:41 AM > > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > > > >> Gommin and muckin are Turkish expressions. Rick > >>> > >>> From: SGates1949@aol.com > >>> Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 04:24:15 EDT > >>> To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > >>> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > >>> > >>> I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and > >>> reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" > >>> which > >>> meant > >>> making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was > >>> another > >>> variation. > >>> > >>> > >>> Sharon Lee Gates > >>> Apopka, FL > >>> > >>> > >>> ============================== > >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: > >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Muckin is term used by coal miners; means removing rock,dirt,etc from the salable coal Shelby

Well Jim I have too. LOL... I thought it was funny because I still say that to my kids and they are grown adults. Something's you never loose. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 6:13 PM Subject: RE: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk >I have been called a lot worse > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: dkb [mailto:dkb@greenapple.com] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:10 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > > I'm not a turk? :) > > K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:41 AM > Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > >> Gommin and muckin are Turkish expressions. Rick >>> >>> From: SGates1949@aol.com >>> Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 04:24:15 EDT >>> To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk >>> >>> I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and >>> reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" >>> which >>> meant >>> making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was >>> another >>> variation. >>> >>> >>> Sharon Lee Gates >>> Apopka, FL >>> >>> >>> ============================== >>> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >>> New content added every business day. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I'm not a turk? :) K ----- Original Message ----- From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > Gommin and muckin are Turkish expressions. Rick >> >> From: SGates1949@aol.com >> Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 04:24:15 EDT >> To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk >> >> I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and >> reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" which >> meant >> making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was another >> variation. >> >> >> Sharon Lee Gates >> Apopka, FL >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Out here in the Wild West you also muck out a horse or cow barn. This involves moving a lot of manure. When I heard muckin' and gommin I immediately thought of BSing and gumming or talking. I've been accused of both. ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > Muckin is term used by coal miners; means removing rock,dirt,etc from the > salable coal > > Shelby > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

I have been called a lot worse Jim -----Original Message----- From: dkb [mailto:dkb@greenapple.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:10 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk I'm not a turk? :) K ----- Original Message ----- From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > Gommin and muckin are Turkish expressions. Rick >> >> From: SGates1949@aol.com >> Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 04:24:15 EDT >> To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk >> >> I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and >> reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" which >> meant >> making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was another >> variation. >> >> >> Sharon Lee Gates >> Apopka, FL >> >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx

Gommin and muckin are Turkish expressions. Rick > > From: SGates1949@aol.com > Date: 2006/04/11 Tue PM 04:24:15 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mountain talk > > I'd like to know where one expression my Mother (Boone County born and > reared) use, "Gommin'") An example--"you are gommin' up the table" which meant > making a mess. Where could gommin' have come from? "Gommy" was another > variation. > > > Sharon Lee Gates > Apopka, FL > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Sharon, Amos Workman m. Adaline McNeely February 14, 1890 in Boone County, West Virignia. Joel -----Original Message----- From: SGates1949@aol.com [mailto:SGates1949@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 4:36 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Confusion about Amos Workman and McNeely connection just made Adeline McNeeley is one of my foremothers. She married Ancel Clendenin/Clendenen and they went to Cass County, MI with one of his cousins and a Hinchman girl, too. They had a daughter there but then went all the way back to what is now Boone County. I have that she married Amos Workman as a widow. However, I don't have the proof, either. Sharon Lee Gates ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Jim, Yes I have seen that one plus William Perry Toler d. March 18, 1949 s/o Mary Ann Toler. That was Rosa Bell Burgess who married William Floyd Browning first. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 10:57 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Mr Bell Burgess Toler Crushed by Railway Train Dear Logan County, West Virginia Genealogist and family, I a copying the death records in Wyoming County, West Virginia Found this interested death record! Are her parents James Abnert Burgess and Marcena Rennie Smith Are the parents of Rennie Smith - William Smith and Rhoda Toler Any one hear about this? What a way to go! Wyoming County, West Virginia Death Records Mrs Bell Toler Housewife Father Ab Burgess Mother Rennie Burgess Born May 12, 1881 Logan County, West Virginia Informant Perry Toler 70 years born Logan County, West Virginia Female White Married Died 26 Mar 1941 Burial 29 Mar 1941 Simon Cemetery, West Virginia Killed at Simon West Virginia - Crushed by Railway Train - Dismembered I am finding that a lot of our family died in the mines or mine related deaths! Had not thought to much about this before! Jim Burgess ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Hello Sharon, May help you feel a little better, I have Adeline McNeely married Ancel Clendenin Dec. 8, 1847; Marriage records of Boone County, W. Va 1854-1931 pg. 73. Lists Amos Workman was 64yrs. old when he married Alice Clendenin age 62yrs. old, Feb 14, 1890. Would this be Adeline McNeely Clendenin ??? Barbara