When we made so many trips home as daddy's brother Ambrose Clark who lived on Logan Ave., Holden, was fighting the black lung battle I was learning of what daddy would go through later. Uncle Am had so many heart attacks due to it, another paternal uncle was Carlos Clark of Turtle Creek in Boone county, it was so sad to see what the illness did to these men, but we visited often and I never imagined we would have it with us first hand. Another close relative in my teenage years was married to daddy's first cousin Lucy Clark, daughter of Joe, she married Chester Adams. They lived lastly up Mt Gay before all of the changes of today were made. Chester also died a slow suffering death. As a child I knew these strong men, the final memories are sad. You who read what I write as Shelby does, I have a strong feeling about Black Lung. my 2 cents. Judi Ralph Sewell wrote: > Go get um Shelby, Black lung contributed to the death of my father > also. It is truly a crime the way that miners have been treated and > all the money that never went to the state as it should. I have a > dear friend in Fla that I went to Man High with. She just a few > weeks ago reeled off the names of our classmates that left the area > after graduation but still came down with cancer, including her. The > numbers are alarming for such a small group and it is still > happening.....( and I dearly love my mountain state believe me, > Landville will always be dear to me) > ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and > Logan County, We... > > >> I know your feelings, Jim; >> My hometown of Blair has had many people with one leg,one arm, >> wheelchair >> people from broken backs, the coal mine life of ex miners. The fact a >> miner could >> get Black Lung disease was kept hidden by the industry for many >> years.And the >> profits from mining went to the out of state corporate heads. I >> emember as a >> child we only had funds for 7 or 8 months for schools. The coal >> industry was >> simply undertaxed in WV >> Many of the men employed by the mines were ex timbermen. they chose >> mining >> because they could work year round. In the winter months logging >> ceased.I know >> this is a genalogical site, but sometimes we have to spout off !! >> Old cuz; >> Shelby >> >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Hey, Jim; You & I are third cousins once removed I am the same kin to Joel Hager too. I am very proud of the fact our grandfathers, Cornelius and J. Wilson Burgess served together in the civil war. Also Joels gr. grandfather,(and mine), was in the civil war too. His name was Alfred Hager. Shelby

Hi all Alfred Allen Hager b 26 Nov 1834 Logan Co. was my mother's 2nd cousin, 2 times removed. If that is the Alfred mentioned below. Sorry, I haven't done much research on the Burgess yet. Am sure they are there somewhere in my tree. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Shelby Burgess and My father James D Burgess are 3rd cousins! > Hey, Jim; > You & I are third cousins once removed I am the same kin to Joel Hager too. > I am very proud of the fact our grandfathers, Cornelius and J. Wilson Burgess > served together in the civil war. Also Joels gr. grandfather,(and mine), was > in the civil war too. > His name was Alfred Hager. > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Trials were held in Jefferson County at Charlestown. If you do a search you will find an excellent site for "Save the Jail" (might be "Save the jail .com" but I don't remember for sure. Lots of info available, including a list of reference books available to buy. The following was written by Rev. James Grandson, Fred Wilburn (son of Ike Wilburn) - "In 1920 labor troubles erupted in Kanawha, Mingo, Boone and Logan Counties. The Coal Companies hired armed guards. The miners called them thugs. The County Sheriffs hired more deputies as many as 60 or 70 each. Union organizers were beaten and put on trains out of the county. The union began arming the miners. Granddad at first refused to join the rebellion being an ordained Baptist Minister. He kept his sons 4 of them out of the strife. One evening while the family was at supper, Granddad was passing the cornbread plate and a bullet came through the window and shattered the bread plate. Saying "its time to lay my Bible down and pick up a gun", Granddad took his boys and headed over Blair Mountain. Near the summit, not far from the home of Devil Anse Hatfield, a sheriff's guard post fired on them. They returned the fire and one deputy sheriff was killed and another wounded. They were recognized and my Uncle Frank, Granddad's 4th son with 2nd son Jess pulled out and went to Harlan County, Ky. Where they remained until Gov. Hatfield issued a blanket pardon in 1926. Granddad, Ike and John were arrested and locked up in the Logan County jail in Logan, WV. Ike, 1st son was released after 32 days. He had not gone with the boys on their journey. Dad (Ike) had gotten married in January 1920, and was at home with his bride Lola Mullins and his son Fred (me). A change of venue caused this trial to be moved to Charlestown, WV. Granddad was convicted of treason against the state of WV and sentenced to Moundsville State Prison, 3rd son John was convicted of murdering deputy Gore and also sentenced to Moundsville. Both were pardoned in 1926 and came home." An excellent book to read on the subject of The Battle of Blair Mountain is "Thunder in the Mountains" by Lon Savage. And, have you checked the Coal Mining web site out? I think there is a link to it from The Boone County Genealogy page. There is some interesting reading available there also. Also, in Logan County there is a park at the site of the Battle of Blair Mountain. I haven't been there yet, but hope to visit it this spring. The following is an article I saved - "May 07, 2005 Mountain nominated for historic status Charleston Gazette Article . Landowners, coal industry object LOGAN - State officials on Friday agreed to recommend the site of the country's largest labor insurrection for the National Register of Historic Places, despite protests from landowners and members of the coal industry. The West Virginia Archives and History Commission unanimously approved the nomination of the 10-mile Spruce Fork Ridge that was the site of the 1921 Battle of Blair Mountain, the culmination of a bloody struggle to unionize the state's southern coalfields. Thousands of union coal miners fought Logan County Sheriff Don Chafin's forces, who were trying to block the miners from entering nonunion territory. Federal troops eventually were called in to turn the miners back. Logan County remained largely unorganized until 1933, when Congress gave legal protection to unions. Preservationist Frank Unger said Blair Mountain would become the first nationally recognized battlefield related to labor unrest if it is approved at the next level. Greg Whooten, vice president of landowner Dingess Rum Properties Inc., argued that permitting and coal extraction could be hampered by the national designation. "For all of those out there who are wearing 'Save the Mountains' T-shirts, I want to see all of you that are wearing 'Save my Job' T-shirts," he said. Several dozen miners stood and cheered. Owners of properties added to the National Register of Historic Places are given the opportunity to apply for tax credits and matching grants for restoration. The register does not restrict the use of property or require public access. But opponents noted that the designation has affected mine permitting. A subsidiary of Massey Energy Co. had planned to begin work on a strip mine on Blair Mountain by this year, said Eric Salyer of Logan County Mine Services. The company has spent more than $1 million on permits and was ready to employ 94 miners, Salyer said. "I have a real hard time explaining to them why our livelihood is being held up by this," he said. The Arch Coal Inc.-owned Hobet surface mine also has permits for areas within the 1,600 acre boundary. "There's been no tourism activity around Blair Mountain for 80-plus years," said Whooten. "What's going to change now?" The Blair Mountain standoff was the largest insurrection in American history other than the Civil War. Previous efforts to get recognition for the battlefield have been rebuffed since 1981. "Why has this taken 25 years, when Matewan - which was a precursor to Blair Mountain and was really just a skirmish - was given national landmark status in 1994?" Unger said. Pro-union forces led by Matewan police Chief Sid Hatfield earlier in 1921 battled a trainload of Baldwin-Felt detectives hired to halt the unionization of the coalfields. Hatfield was later gunned down by private guards on the steps of the McDowell County Courthouse in Welch. The incidents inspired the 1987 John Sayles movie "Matewan." Attorney Bob McLusky on Friday argued that not all landowners received notification of the commission hearing within the required 30-day period. Also, 21 owners had registered their opposition to the plan before the beginning of the meeting. McLusky said his clients would consider litigation. preservation. State officials have 90 days to prepare their recommendation for the national registry." I hope this gives you some new information. I hope you are able to find out something about your Uncle at one of these sites. If you have trouble locating any of them, I would be happy to give you more help. Evelyn Wilburn Sukey -----Original Message----- From: Sassydog2@aol.com [mailto:Sassydog2@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 12:40 AM To: WVBOONE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: seeking Orval Plants (Boone WVA) and Battle Blair Mountain information Hi. My great uncle, Orval Plants, was born in Boone County WVA and died in 1955 in Everett Washington. According to family tradition, he was very involved in the Battle of Blair Mountain. He apparently learned there was a possible indictment against him, so fled the state and only came back once, quietly, for a family reunion some 20 years later. I am fascinated by this period of history for Boone, Logan and Mingo Counties. There are probably many of our elders who have first hand stories about it, perhaps shared by their parents- that hopefully someone is documenting. I am very interested in learning if there are any indictments etc. regarding this. The only thing I really found that mentions over 1000 indictments being filed is this that I found online. I have quoted the relevant parts. Does anyone have any idea if these indictments still exist in Logan County Courthouse? I'd love to schedule a trip if they are still available somewhere. If anyone has any knowledge of my great uncle I would sure appreciate it. I understand he may have worked for the Spruce River Coal Company at some time- and also worked at Jeffries. (they may be the same place.) thanks in advance- I'd love to hear what others know of this amazing time in our history. Debbie Deem Here's the info-- socialist and apparently from England-- so they must have gotten the sources from somewhere in WVA: _http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj66/newsinger.htm_ (http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj66/newsinger.htm) "How many men were killed in the march on Logan and the battle for Blair Mountain is not known. The official estimate was four, but both sides deliberately concealed their casualties and buried their dead in secret. The union's defeat was now followed by a legal offensive. Between September and October 1921 grand juries in Logan County brought in 1,217 indictments for complicity in the insurrection including 325 charges of murder and 24 indictments for treason. Hundreds of miners including Keeney, Mooney and Blizzard were thrown into jail. The trials were held in the courthouse where John Brown had been convicted in 1859. Blizzard was singled out as an example but after a trial lasting over a month he was acquitted in May 1922. The great majority of charges were later dismissed but two miners, a baptist minister, the Reverend J E Wilbur, and his son, were convicted of murder for shooting a special deputy."

Hi againSue; There were less timbering jobs after the old growth timber was cut down, that is true, but every 40 years the forrest regenerates,so even in this time we have plenty of timber for jobs.But after "John L." times, the pay for miners increased much more for miners.I have did both kinds of work. Timbering is a much healthier occupation,but its not without danger.When I found out Black Lung was a killer, I quit the coal mines.Best decision I ever made. Old Jarrell Cousin; Shelby

>Thank you, Shelby. My family were timbermen in Raleigh Co before they >became coal miners in Boone and Logan. I always read it was because the >timber was running out and coal was starting up big time in the 1920s. >Hadn't thought about logging not being a year round job. It's difficult >even now, living in Florida, to imagine life - jobs - shutting down like that. >Sue > > >I know your feelings, Jim; > > My hometown of Blair has had many people with one leg,one arm, wheelchair > > people from broken backs, the coal mine life of ex miners. The fact a > > miner could > > get Black Lung disease was kept hidden by the industry for many years.And > > the > > profits from mining went to the out of state corporate heads. I emember as > > > a > > child we only had funds for 7 or 8 months for schools. The coal industry > > was > > simply undertaxed in WV > > Many of the men employed by the mines were ex timbermen. they chose mining > > because they could work year round. In the winter months logging ceased.I > > know > > this is a genalogical site, but sometimes we have to spout off !! > > Old cuz; > > Shelby > > > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

I know exactly why grandpa put his foot down and said not one of his grandchildren would ever work the mines. He didn't care what we did, but it wouldn't be inside a coal mine. He's gone now. One of my cousins drove the mine train. He has Black Lung now. Sue

My Great Grandfather, William Dingess also died in a coal mine explosion in 1931, mine # 20 the last mine up Whitman, left 9 daughters and wife and many grandchildren, My father also worked in the coal mines has black lung but thank goodness moved to Michigan before it killed him, I have 3 uncles who worked in the mines that all died in their late 50's due to health problems from the coal mines. Kathy in Michigan born in Logan -----Original Message----- From: Ralph Sewell [mailto:jlgrd@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:35 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and Logan County, We... Go get um Shelby, Black lung contributed to the death of my father also. It is truly a crime the way that miners have been treated and all the money that never went to the state as it should. I have a dear friend in Fla that I went to Man High with. She just a few weeks ago reeled off the names of our classmates that left the area after graduation but still came down with cancer, including her. The numbers are alarming for such a small group and it is still happening.....( and I dearly love my mountain state believe me, Landville will always be dear to me) ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and Logan County, We... >I know your feelings, Jim; > My hometown of Blair has had many people with one leg,one arm, wheelchair > people from broken backs, the coal mine life of ex miners. The fact a > miner could > get Black Lung disease was kept hidden by the industry for many years.And > the > profits from mining went to the out of state corporate heads. I emember as > a > child we only had funds for 7 or 8 months for schools. The coal industry > was > simply undertaxed in WV > Many of the men employed by the mines were ex timbermen. they chose mining > because they could work year round. In the winter months logging ceased.I > know > this is a genalogical site, but sometimes we have to spout off !! > Old cuz; > Shelby > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

That is great, Jim Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:02 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Shelby Burgess and My father James D Burgess are 3rd cousins! > I am proud of this! > > Jim Burgess > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I am proud of this! Jim Burgess

Gracie, Yes I have seen the Towler name later spelled Toler. Joel 1. Unknown Towler-[288553] was born before 1700. Unknown married. Children from this marriage were: + 2 M i. William J. Towler-[217122]1 was born about 1720 in Virginia 1 and died on 17 Jul 1799 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia about age 79. + 3 M ii. Joshua Towler-[115174] was born about 1727 and died about 1790 in Y about age 63. Second Generation (Children) 2. William J. Towler-[217122]1 (Unknown 1) was born about 1720 in Virginia 1 and died on 17 Jul 1799 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia about age 79. William married Frances Dixon-[123151]1 [MRIN: 9542], daughter of Thomas Dixon-[148309] and Heather-[123128]. Frances was born before 1727 in Ireland 1 and died in Y. Children from this marriage were: 4 M i. Joseph Towler-[217121]1 was born on 15 Sep 1743 in Lunenburg County, Virginia 1 and died on 10 Nov 1819 1 at age 76. Joseph married Frances Dixon-[216969]1 [MRIN: 9551], daughter of John Dixon-[216947] and Mary Arthur-[216943], about 1777 in Goose Creek, Bedford County, Virginia. Frances was born about 1758 1 and died on 30 Jun 1833 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia 1 about age 75. + 5 F ii. Frances Towler-[217146]1 was born about 1763 1 and died in Y. 3. Joshua Towler-[115174] (Unknown 1) was born about 1727 and died about 1790 in Y about age 63. Joshua married Judith-[115175] [MRIN: 76747]. Children from this marriage were: + 6 M i. Joseph Toler-[115171] was born before 1754 and died in Y. 7 M ii. Stephen Toler-[288550] was born before 1770. 8 F iii. July Toler-[288548] was born before 1775. July married Thomas Gord-[288549] [MRIN: 104543] on 31 Jan 1793 in Bedford County, Virginia. Thomas was born before 1773. 9 F iv. Sally Toler-[288551] was born before 1781. Sally married Joshua Goad-[288552] [MRIN: 104544] on 9 Dec 1799 in Bedford County, Virginia. Joshua was born before 1779. 10 M v. John Jonas Toler-[289274] was born in Oct 1783 in Virginia. John married Sarah Dalton-[289275] [MRIN: 104810] on 18 Jul 1805. Sarah was born before 1787. 11 M vi. Robert Toler-[288556] was born before 1784. Robert married Betsey Ellis-[288557] [MRIN: 104547] on 26 Nov 1804 in Bedford County, Virginia. Betsey was born berf. 1786. 12 F vii. Nancy Toler-[288554] was born before 1786. Nancy married Richard Goad-[288555] [MRIN: 104546] on 27 Sep 1804 in Bedford County, Virginia. Richard was born before 1784. 13 M viii. Barnabas Toler-[288560] was born before 1786. Barnabas married Sally Hackworth-[288561] [MRIN: 104549], daughter of Unknown Hackworth-[281448] and Unknown, on 2 Aug 1806 in Bedford County, Virginia. Sally was born before 1788. 14 F ix. Sally Toler-[288558] was born before 1787. Sally married Thomas Goad-[288559] [MRIN: 104548] on 28 Nov 1805 in Bedford County, Virginia. Thomas was born before 1785. 15 M x. William F. Toler-[289269] was born before 1787. William married Polly Walton Smith-[289270] [MRIN: 104808] on 12 Oct 1807. Polly was born before 1789. 16 F xi. Nancy Toler-[288562] was born before 1789 in Bedford County, Virginia. Nancy married Sanford Dove-[288563] [MRIN: 104550] on 29 Jan 1807 in Bedford County, Virginia. Sanford was born before 1787. 17 F xii. Mary Toler-[289273]1 was born before 1796 1 and died in Y. Mary married Littlebury Dixon-[217150]1 [MRIN: 9610], son of William Dixon-[216965] and Frances Towler-[217146], on 28 Mar 1814 in Bedford County, Virginia.1 Littlebury was born about 1788 1 and died in Y. + 18 M xiii. Chesley Toler-[216953]1 was born about 1796 in Virginia 1 and died on 3 Feb 1872 in Lawrence County, Ohio 1 about age 76. 19 M xiv. James Toler-[288565] was born before 1797. James married Sally Hurt-[288564] [MRIN: 104551], daughter of Garland D. Hurt-[172093] and Marteshia Thurston-[172094], on 15 Dec 1817 in Bedford County, Virginia. Sally was born before 1799. 20 M xv. Cornelius Toler-[289271] was born before 1799. Cornelius married Catherine Goad-[289272] [MRIN: 104809] on 15 Mar 1819 in Bedford County, Virginia. Catherine was born before 1801. Third Generation (Grandchildren) 5. Frances Towler-[217146]1 (William J. 2, Unknown 1) was born about 1763 1 and died in Y. Frances married Alexander Oaks-[217170]1 [MRIN: 9607]. Alexander was born about 1750 1 and died in Y. The child from this marriage was: + 21 F i. Lavina Oaks-[217169]1 was born about 1773 1 and died in Y. Frances next married William Dixon-[216965]1 [MRIN: 9549], son of John Dixon-[216947] and Mary Arthur-[216943], about 1783 in Goose Creek, Bedford County, Virginia. William was born on 6 Jun 1764 in Goose Creek, Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died on 10 Oct 1809 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 at age 45. Children from this marriage were: 22 F i. Nancy Anne Dixon-[217147]1 was born about 1784 1 and died in Y. Nancy married William Hall-[217148]1 [MRIN: 9608] on 27 Mar 1802 in Bedford County, Virginia.1 William was born about 1775 1 and died in Y. 23 F ii. Frances Dixon-[217149]1 was born about 1786 1 and died in Y. Frances married George Parker-[217162]1 [MRIN: 9609]. George was born about 1790 1 and died in Y. 24 M iii. Littlebury Dixon-[217150]1 was born about 1788 1 and died in Y. Littlebury married Mary Toler-[289273]1 [MRIN: 9610], daughter of Joshua Towler-[115174] and Judith-[115175], on 28 Mar 1814 in Bedford County, Virginia.1 Mary was born before 1796 1 and died in Y. 25 M iv. Jubal Dixon-[217157]1 was born about 1790 1 and died in Y. Jubal married Polly Mitchell-[217160]1 [MRIN: 9614] on 12 Dec 1808 in Bedford County, Virginia.1 Polly was born about 1790 1 and died in Y. 26 M v. William Dixon-[217151]1 was born about 1791 1 and died about 1879 1 about age 88. William married Unity Hackworth-[217153]1 [MRIN: 9611], daughter of Unknown Hackworth-[281448] and Unknown. Unity was born about 1793 1 and died in 1869 in , , Henry Co, Missouri 1 about age 76. 27 M vi. John Dixon-[217154]1 was born about 1795 1 and died in Y. 28 M vii. Meredith Dixon-[217155]1 was born about 1796 1 and died in Y. Meredith married Signey Wilson-[217159]1 [MRIN: 9613] on 11 Feb 1815 in Bedford County, Virginia.1 Signey was born about 1797 1 and died in Y. 29 M viii. James Dixon-[217158]1 was born about 1797 1 and died in Y. James married Susannah Rody-[217161]1 [MRIN: 9615]. Susannah was born about 1790 1 and died in Y. 6. Joseph Toler-[115171] (Joshua 2, Unknown 1) was born before 1754 and died in Y. Joseph married Unknown-[115172] [MRIN: 76746]. The child from this marriage was: 30 M i. Christopher Toler-[37752] was born before 1774 and died in Y. Christopher married Edy Mead-[115168] [MRIN: 76744], daughter of Robert Mead-[72991] and Hannah Rhodes-[72992], on 15 Jan 1801 in Bedford County, Virginia. Edy was born about 1774 in Bedford County, Virginia and died in Y. 18. Chesley Toler-[216953]1 (Joshua 2, Unknown 1) was born about 1796 in Virginia 1 and died on 3 Feb 1872 in Lawrence County, Ohio 1 about age 76. Chesley married Elizabeth Dixon-[216952]1 [MRIN: 9543], daughter of Thomas Dixon-[216919] and Martha Arthur-[216920], on 20 May 1818 in Bedford County, Virginia.1 Elizabeth was born about 1786 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Mar 1892 in Wayne County, Kentucky 1 about age 106. Children from this marriage were: + 31 F i. Bethana Toler-[217042]1 was born about 1819 in Virginia 1 and died in Y. + 32 F ii. Susan Ann Jane Toler-[217015]1 was born on 28 Sep 1820 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died on 9 Nov 1918 in Wayne County, Kentucky 1 at age 98. 33 M iii. Chesley Toler-[216962]1 was born about 1822 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. 34 F iv. Mary Toler-[216963]1 was born about 1827 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. 35 F v. Polly Arthur-[217037]1 was born about 1829 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. 36 F vi. Ursily Toler-[217038]1 was born about 1830 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. 37 M vii. William T. Toler-[217036]1 was born about 1835 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:38 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] question about Toler Shelby, I have no idea. Was hoping someone who has been researching longer than I have might know. I have come up with Edward Friend Towler who's father, Robert F. Towler was born in Virginia. Edward married Emogene Saphronia Satterlee. Emogene's brother, John Abram Satterlee, married my great aunt, Nancy Jane Hager. in Ks. Cousin Gracie

Ok, Robert F. Towler was born about 1816 somewhere in Virginia. Moved to Fabius, Marion, Missouri, by 1853, was married to Jane H. Friend, b 1824 Virginia. Anyone have any thing on them? These Satterlees were from Michigan by way of New York. And suppose to be Ojibwa. But trace back to Nicholas Satterlee about 1515 Chellesworth, Suffolk, Eng. I refuse to go back any further for fear of more royalty, I do NOT do royalty any more. (long names that I can't pronounce) 'smiling' Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Hager" <joel.hager@us.army.mil> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:59 PM Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] question about Toler > Gracie, > > Yes I have seen the Towler name later spelled Toler. > > Joel > > 1. Unknown Towler-[288553] was born before 1700. > > Unknown married. > > Children from this marriage were: > > + 2 M i. William J. Towler-[217122]1 was born about > 1720 in Virginia 1 and died on 17 Jul 1799 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia > about age 79. > > + 3 M ii. Joshua Towler-[115174] was born about 1727 > and died about 1790 in Y about age 63. > > Second Generation (Children) > > 2. William J. Towler-[217122]1 (Unknown 1) was born about 1720 in Virginia > 1 and died on 17 Jul 1799 in Pittsylvania County, Virginia about age 79. > > William married Frances Dixon-[123151]1 [MRIN: 9542], daughter of Thomas > Dixon-[148309] and Heather-[123128]. Frances was born before 1727 in Ireland > 1 and died in Y. > > Children from this marriage were: > > 4 M i. Joseph Towler-[217121]1 was born on 15 Sep > 1743 in Lunenburg County, Virginia 1 and died on 10 Nov 1819 1 at age 76. > > Joseph married Frances Dixon-[216969]1 [MRIN: 9551], daughter of John > Dixon-[216947] and Mary Arthur-[216943], about 1777 in Goose Creek, Bedford > County, Virginia. Frances was born about 1758 1 and died on 30 Jun 1833 in > Pittsylvania County, Virginia 1 about age 75. > > + 5 F ii. Frances Towler-[217146]1 was born about 1763 > 1 and died in Y. > > 3. Joshua Towler-[115174] (Unknown 1) was born about 1727 and died about > 1790 in Y about age 63. > > Joshua married Judith-[115175] [MRIN: 76747]. > > Children from this marriage were: > > + 6 M i. Joseph Toler-[115171] was born before 1754 > and died in Y. > > 7 M ii. Stephen Toler-[288550] was born before 1770. > > > 8 F iii. July Toler-[288548] was born before 1775. > > July married Thomas Gord-[288549] [MRIN: 104543] on 31 Jan 1793 in Bedford > County, Virginia. Thomas was born before 1773. > > 9 F iv. Sally Toler-[288551] was born before 1781. > > Sally married Joshua Goad-[288552] [MRIN: 104544] on 9 Dec 1799 in Bedford > County, Virginia. Joshua was born before 1779. > > 10 M v. John Jonas Toler-[289274] was born in Oct > 1783 in Virginia. > > John married Sarah Dalton-[289275] [MRIN: 104810] on 18 Jul 1805. Sarah was > born before 1787. > > 11 M vi. Robert Toler-[288556] was born before 1784. > > Robert married Betsey Ellis-[288557] [MRIN: 104547] on 26 Nov 1804 in > Bedford County, Virginia. Betsey was born berf. 1786. > > 12 F vii. Nancy Toler-[288554] was born before 1786. > > Nancy married Richard Goad-[288555] [MRIN: 104546] on 27 Sep 1804 in Bedford > County, Virginia. Richard was born before 1784. > > 13 M viii. Barnabas Toler-[288560] was born before > 1786. > > Barnabas married Sally Hackworth-[288561] [MRIN: 104549], daughter of > Unknown Hackworth-[281448] and Unknown, on 2 Aug 1806 in Bedford County, > Virginia. Sally was born before 1788. > > 14 F ix. Sally Toler-[288558] was born before 1787. > > Sally married Thomas Goad-[288559] [MRIN: 104548] on 28 Nov 1805 in Bedford > County, Virginia. Thomas was born before 1785. > > 15 M x. William F. Toler-[289269] was born before > 1787. > > William married Polly Walton Smith-[289270] [MRIN: 104808] on 12 Oct 1807. > Polly was born before 1789. > > 16 F xi. Nancy Toler-[288562] was born before 1789 in > Bedford County, Virginia. > > Nancy married Sanford Dove-[288563] [MRIN: 104550] on 29 Jan 1807 in Bedford > County, Virginia. Sanford was born before 1787. > > 17 F xii. Mary Toler-[289273]1 was born before 1796 1 > and died in Y. > > Mary married Littlebury Dixon-[217150]1 [MRIN: 9610], son of William > Dixon-[216965] and Frances Towler-[217146], on 28 Mar 1814 in Bedford > County, Virginia.1 Littlebury was born about 1788 1 and died in Y. > > + 18 M xiii. Chesley Toler-[216953]1 was born about 1796 > in Virginia 1 and died on 3 Feb 1872 in Lawrence County, Ohio 1 about age > 76. > > 19 M xiv. James Toler-[288565] was born before 1797. > > James married Sally Hurt-[288564] [MRIN: 104551], daughter of Garland D. > Hurt-[172093] and Marteshia Thurston-[172094], on 15 Dec 1817 in Bedford > County, Virginia. Sally was born before 1799. > > 20 M xv. Cornelius Toler-[289271] was born before > 1799. > > Cornelius married Catherine Goad-[289272] [MRIN: 104809] on 15 Mar 1819 in > Bedford County, Virginia. Catherine was born before 1801. > > Third Generation (Grandchildren) > > 5. Frances Towler-[217146]1 (William J. 2, Unknown 1) was born about 1763 1 > and died in Y. > > Frances married Alexander Oaks-[217170]1 [MRIN: 9607]. Alexander was born > about 1750 1 and died in Y. > > The child from this marriage was: > > + 21 F i. Lavina Oaks-[217169]1 was born about 1773 1 > and died in Y. > > Frances next married William Dixon-[216965]1 [MRIN: 9549], son of John > Dixon-[216947] and Mary Arthur-[216943], about 1783 in Goose Creek, Bedford > County, Virginia. William was born on 6 Jun 1764 in Goose Creek, Bedford > County, Virginia 1 and died on 10 Oct 1809 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 at > age 45. > > Children from this marriage were: > > 22 F i. Nancy Anne Dixon-[217147]1 was born about > 1784 1 and died in Y. > > Nancy married William Hall-[217148]1 [MRIN: 9608] on 27 Mar 1802 in Bedford > County, Virginia.1 William was born about 1775 1 and died in Y. > > 23 F ii. Frances Dixon-[217149]1 was born about 1786 > 1 and died in Y. > > Frances married George Parker-[217162]1 [MRIN: 9609]. George was born about > 1790 1 and died in Y. > > 24 M iii. Littlebury Dixon-[217150]1 was born about > 1788 1 and died in Y. > > Littlebury married Mary Toler-[289273]1 [MRIN: 9610], daughter of Joshua > Towler-[115174] and Judith-[115175], on 28 Mar 1814 in Bedford County, > Virginia.1 Mary was born before 1796 1 and died in Y. > > 25 M iv. Jubal Dixon-[217157]1 was born about 1790 1 > and died in Y. > > Jubal married Polly Mitchell-[217160]1 [MRIN: 9614] on 12 Dec 1808 in > Bedford County, Virginia.1 Polly was born about 1790 1 and died in Y. > > 26 M v. William Dixon-[217151]1 was born about 1791 > 1 and died about 1879 1 about age 88. > > William married Unity Hackworth-[217153]1 [MRIN: 9611], daughter of Unknown > Hackworth-[281448] and Unknown. Unity was born about 1793 1 and died in 1869 > in , , Henry Co, Missouri 1 about age 76. > > 27 M vi. John Dixon-[217154]1 was born about 1795 1 > and died in Y. > > 28 M vii. Meredith Dixon-[217155]1 was born about 1796 > 1 and died in Y. > > Meredith married Signey Wilson-[217159]1 [MRIN: 9613] on 11 Feb 1815 in > Bedford County, Virginia.1 Signey was born about 1797 1 and died in Y. > > 29 M viii. James Dixon-[217158]1 was born about 1797 1 > and died in Y. > > James married Susannah Rody-[217161]1 [MRIN: 9615]. Susannah was born about > 1790 1 and died in Y. > > 6. Joseph Toler-[115171] (Joshua 2, Unknown 1) was born before 1754 and > died in Y. > > Joseph married Unknown-[115172] [MRIN: 76746]. > > The child from this marriage was: > > 30 M i. Christopher Toler-[37752] was born before > 1774 and died in Y. > > Christopher married Edy Mead-[115168] [MRIN: 76744], daughter of Robert > Mead-[72991] and Hannah Rhodes-[72992], on 15 Jan 1801 in Bedford County, > Virginia. Edy was born about 1774 in Bedford County, Virginia and died in Y. > > 18. Chesley Toler-[216953]1 (Joshua 2, Unknown 1) was born about 1796 in > Virginia 1 and died on 3 Feb 1872 in Lawrence County, Ohio 1 about age 76. > > Chesley married Elizabeth Dixon-[216952]1 [MRIN: 9543], daughter of Thomas > Dixon-[216919] and Martha Arthur-[216920], on 20 May 1818 in Bedford County, > Virginia.1 Elizabeth was born about 1786 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and > died in Mar 1892 in Wayne County, Kentucky 1 about age 106. > > Children from this marriage were: > > + 31 F i. Bethana Toler-[217042]1 was born about 1819 > in Virginia 1 and died in Y. > > + 32 F ii. Susan Ann Jane Toler-[217015]1 was born on > 28 Sep 1820 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died on 9 Nov 1918 in Wayne > County, Kentucky 1 at age 98. > > 33 M iii. Chesley Toler-[216962]1 was born about 1822 > in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. > > 34 F iv. Mary Toler-[216963]1 was born about 1827 in > Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. > > 35 F v. Polly Arthur-[217037]1 was born about 1829 > in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. > > 36 F vi. Ursily Toler-[217038]1 was born about 1830 > in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. > > 37 M vii. William T. Toler-[217036]1 was born about > 1835 in Bedford County, Virginia 1 and died in Y. > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:38 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] question about Toler > > Shelby, I have no idea. Was hoping someone who has been researching > longer than I have might know. > I have come up with Edward Friend Towler who's father, Robert F. Towler > was born in Virginia. Edward married Emogene Saphronia Satterlee. > Emogene's brother, John Abram Satterlee, married my great aunt, Nancy Jane > Hager. in Ks. > > Cousin Gracie > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Cousin Gracie; Didnt the name Toler come from the person who collected tolls at bridges in England ? That was a way of paying for the bridges Shelby

Both my grandfathers died in Logan Co from Black Lung/Lung Cancer/Emphysema. Laura -----Original Message----- From: rcs5@bellsouth.net [mailto:rcs5@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 10:40 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and Logan County, West Virginia - Cannot Stand it! I am mad! Hello Jim and God Bless - We will fill in the blanks for you. I learned to despise the coal companies as a young child watching my Uncle Dorsey die of black lung. This was in the early 1950s, and I can still recall it all as though it were yesterday. As I grew older nothing changed my opinion of the coal companies and the WVa legislature they owned and still own. Rick Stewart > > From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> > Date: 2006/04/22 Sat AM 01:17:20 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and > Logan County, West Virginia - Cannot Stand it! I am mad! > > Dear Logan County, West Virginia family and genealogist, > > I was going to give you a report on this in a couple of days when I > finish. But I have to vent my feelings NOW! > > No one loves Logan County, West Virginia more than Jim Burgess It is a > part of my fibre and life. All of my fathers ancestors lived there > and settled there when Logan County was Cabell County West Virginia. I > spent six years of my life there! > > I have typed all of the Toler Death Records in > Wyoming County 31 Toler Deaths > There are 57 Tolers in Logan County Death record > (have typed about 35 of these!) 22 to go! > > 88 Toler Deaths at least 10 died in mining accidents > That is over 10% of them dieing the mines. That is absolutely > rediculous! (Actually I think it is about 15%) God bless our families > who suffered as a result of the deaths of husbands, fathers and sons. > > At least 10 (of the first 66 typed)were killed in the mines - The > Death records use some of these words: Broken Neck > Skull Crushed > Body Dismantled > Body Dismembered > Killed by mine locomotive > Run over by train dismembered > Fractured Cerebral > Slate Fall in the mines > Slate Fall > Legs Severed > > How many others died such deaths? > > I am so upset I am going to bed - Will finish this tommorrow. > > This is just one family of 88 Toler names. > > How many more gave their lives? > > God bless Hiram Grant Burgess who took his family to Cabell County, West > Virginia in 1918. I know that Hiram loved Cabell County but I now know why > he left our beloved Logan County, West Virginia. > > My close family survived! My heart goes out to our relatives who gave > their lives so that others could get rich from the mines. > > It is good that I did not know this when I lived in Logan County > during the early 1970's. > > Why have our Logan County families put up with such garbage? > > I am really mad! I want to say a nasty word but cannot! > > Good Night - I am sorry! No I am not sorry! > > > Jim Burgess > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and > the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 > months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Shelby, I have no idea. Was hoping someone who has been researching longer than I have might know. I have come up with Edward Friend Towler who's father, Robert F. Towler was born in Virginia. Edward married Emogene Saphronia Satterlee. Emogene's brother, John Abram Satterlee, married my great aunt, Nancy Jane Hager. in Ks. Cousin Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:15 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] question about Toler > Cousin Gracie; > Didnt the name Toler come from the person who collected tolls at bridges in > England ? That was a way of paying for the bridges > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Go get um Shelby, Black lung contributed to the death of my father also. It is truly a crime the way that miners have been treated and all the money that never went to the state as it should. I have a dear friend in Fla that I went to Man High with. She just a few weeks ago reeled off the names of our classmates that left the area after graduation but still came down with cancer, including her. The numbers are alarming for such a small group and it is still happening.....( and I dearly love my mountain state believe me, Landville will always be dear to me) ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and Logan County, We... >I know your feelings, Jim; > My hometown of Blair has had many people with one leg,one arm, wheelchair > people from broken backs, the coal mine life of ex miners. The fact a > miner could > get Black Lung disease was kept hidden by the industry for many years.And > the > profits from mining went to the out of state corporate heads. I emember as > a > child we only had funds for 7 or 8 months for schools. The coal industry > was > simply undertaxed in WV > Many of the men employed by the mines were ex timbermen. they chose mining > because they could work year round. In the winter months logging ceased.I > know > this is a genalogical site, but sometimes we have to spout off !! > Old cuz; > Shelby > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >

Jim Add a lot of other surnames to the list of miners being crushed, ran over by locomotives etc to your list. My grandpa's says crushed chest where the roof of the mine caved in on top of him, and he was the only one in that area when it happened. Island Creek Mine # 16, Verdenville, Logan County. He left behind 4 small children. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 1:17 AM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and Logan County, West Virginia - Cannot Stand it! I am mad! > Dear Logan County, West Virginia family and genealogist, > > I was going to give you a report on this in a couple of days when I > finish. But I have to vent my feelings NOW! > > No one loves Logan County, West Virginia more than Jim Burgess > It is a part of my fibre and life. All of my fathers ancestors lived > there and settled there when Logan County was Cabell County West Virginia. > I spent six years of my life there! > > I have typed all of the Toler Death Records in > Wyoming County 31 Toler Deaths > There are 57 Tolers in Logan County Death record > (have typed about 35 of these!) 22 to go! > > 88 Toler Deaths at least 10 died in mining accidents > That is over 10% of them dieing the mines. That is > absolutely rediculous! (Actually I think it is about 15%) > God bless our families who suffered as a result of the > deaths of husbands, fathers and sons. > > At least 10 (of the first 66 typed)were killed in the mines - > The Death records use some of these words: > Broken Neck > Skull Crushed > Body Dismantled > Body Dismembered > Killed by mine locomotive > Run over by train dismembered > Fractured Cerebral > Slate Fall in the mines > Slate Fall > Legs Severed > > How many others died such deaths? > > I am so upset I am going to bed - Will finish this tommorrow. > > This is just one family of 88 Toler names. > > How many more gave their lives? > > God bless Hiram Grant Burgess who took his family to Cabell County, West > Virginia in 1918. I know that Hiram loved Cabell County but I now know > why > he left our beloved Logan County, West Virginia. > > My close family survived! My heart goes out to our relatives who > gave their lives so that others could get rich from the mines. > > It is good that I did not know this when I lived in Logan County during > the early 1970's. > > Why have our Logan County families put up with such garbage? > > I am really mad! I want to say a nasty word but cannot! > > Good Night - I am sorry! No I am not sorry! > > > Jim Burgess > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Did the family ever spell Toler as Towler???? G

Hello Jim and God Bless - We will fill in the blanks for you. I learned to despise the coal companies as a young child watching my Uncle Dorsey die of black lung. This was in the early 1950s, and I can still recall it all as though it were yesterday. As I grew older nothing changed my opinion of the coal companies and the WVa legislature they owned and still own. Rick Stewart > > From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> > Date: 2006/04/22 Sat AM 01:17:20 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Jim Burgess typing Toler Deaths in Wyoming and Logan County, West Virginia - Cannot Stand it! I am mad! > > Dear Logan County, West Virginia family and genealogist, > > I was going to give you a report on this in a couple of days when I > finish. But I have to vent my feelings NOW! > > No one loves Logan County, West Virginia more than Jim Burgess > It is a part of my fibre and life. All of my fathers ancestors lived > there and settled there when Logan County was Cabell County West Virginia. > I spent six years of my life there! > > I have typed all of the Toler Death Records in > Wyoming County 31 Toler Deaths > There are 57 Tolers in Logan County Death record > (have typed about 35 of these!) 22 to go! > > 88 Toler Deaths at least 10 died in mining accidents > That is over 10% of them dieing the mines. That is > absolutely rediculous! (Actually I think it is about 15%) > God bless our families who suffered as a result of the > deaths of husbands, fathers and sons. > > At least 10 (of the first 66 typed)were killed in the mines - > The Death records use some of these words: > Broken Neck > Skull Crushed > Body Dismantled > Body Dismembered > Killed by mine locomotive > Run over by train dismembered > Fractured Cerebral > Slate Fall in the mines > Slate Fall > Legs Severed > > How many others died such deaths? > > I am so upset I am going to bed - Will finish this tommorrow. > > This is just one family of 88 Toler names. > > How many more gave their lives? > > God bless Hiram Grant Burgess who took his family to Cabell County, West > Virginia in 1918. I know that Hiram loved Cabell County but I now know why > he left our beloved Logan County, West Virginia. > > My close family survived! My heart goes out to our relatives who > gave their lives so that others could get rich from the mines. > > It is good that I did not know this when I lived in Logan County during > the early 1970's. > > Why have our Logan County families put up with such garbage? > > I am really mad! I want to say a nasty word but cannot! > > Good Night - I am sorry! No I am not sorry! > > > Jim Burgess > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

I know your feelings, Jim; My hometown of Blair has had many people with one leg,one arm, wheelchair people from broken backs, the coal mine life of ex miners. The fact a miner could get Black Lung disease was kept hidden by the industry for many years.And the profits from mining went to the out of state corporate heads. I emember as a child we only had funds for 7 or 8 months for schools. The coal industry was simply undertaxed in WV Many of the men employed by the mines were ex timbermen. they chose mining because they could work year round. In the winter months logging ceased.I know this is a genalogical site, but sometimes we have to spout off !! Old cuz; Shelby