Many years back I was told by an older relative that the County Court House was located in Man in the 1930's prior to burning down, is there any truth to that? Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Court House Records > I know the land records were saved when the Boone county court house was > burned in the Civil war. All others perished,including birth,death, > marriage > records. Were any records saved when the Logan court house burned ? > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Rick, I have Laura B. Browning and Elvira Smith, who married Vandelin Sanford Browning, in my records exactly as you describe. Thanks, STAN On Friday, April 28, 2006, at 12:34 PM, <rcs5@bellsouth.net> wrote: > With all that is being written about the Brownings, I am concerned > that my great grand aunt Laura B. Browning will be left out. My gg > grandmother Almira Jarrell Mullins was widowed in 1873 when Andrew > Jackson Mullins died. She married Lawrence Laomer Browning s/o > Francis and Jane (Spratt) Browning on 16 Nov. 1876. Laura B. Browning > was born in 1878 per the 1880 Logan Co. census. > > Shelby found Laura's grave marker at White Oak cemetary. She died as > a child. However, she did exist and was a Browning. Apparently > Almira Jarrell Mullins and Laomer Browning divorced. He is somewhere > in Boone Co. in 1900 with a new family. Almira took the Mullins name > back. Her Mullins children, Marshall Bomont and Lavalette are on the > 1880 census with them. > > I have two gg grandmothers who were widowed at a young age and married > Brownings the second time. Elvira Smith Burgess w/o Ransom Burgess > married V. S. Browning, and Almira married Laomer Browning. Elvira > did have children with V.S. Browning. > > Rick Stewart > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Ain't that the truth! Laura -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:58 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Genealogy Humor These are from Bill Dollarhide, a long-time genealogist. He founded the Genealogy Bulletin, has published numerous books on the subject of genealogy and writes a genealogy blog among other things. 1. Death certificates are rarely filled in by the person who died. 2. When visiting a funeral home, wear old clothes, no make-up, and look like you have about a week to live -- the funeral director will give you anything you ask for if he thinks you may be a customer soon. 3. The cemetery where your ancestor was buried does not have perpetual care, has no office, is accessible only by a muddy road, and has snakes, tall grass, and lots of bugs... and many of the old gravestones are in broken pieces, stacked in a corner under a pile of dirt. 4. A Social Security form SS-5 is better than a birth certificate because few people had anything to do with the information on their own birth certificate. 5. Leave no stone unturned -- tombstone, that is. 6. The application for a death certificate you want insists that you provide the maiden name of the deceased's mother -- which is exactly what you don't know and is the reason you are trying to get the death certificate in the first place. 7. If you call Social Security and ask where to write for a birth certificate, tell them it is for yourself -- they won't help you if you say you want one for your great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather who died in 1642. 8. When you contact the state vital statistics office in your home state and ask if they are "on-line," and they respond, "on-what?", you may have a problem. 9. A census record showing all twelve children in a family proves only that your ancestors did not believe in birth control. 10. Work from the known to the unknown. In other words, just because your name is Washington doesn't mean you are related to George. 11. With any luck, some of the people in your family could read and write... and may have left something written about themselves. 12. It ain't history until it's written down. 13. A genealogist needs to be a detective. Just gimmy da facts Ma'am. 14. Always interview brothers and sisters together in the same room -- since they can't agree on anything about the family tree, it makes for great fun to see who throws the first punch. 15. The genealogy book you just found out about went out of print last week. 16. A good genealogical event is learning that your parents were really married. 17. Finding the place a person lived may lead to finding that person's arrest record. 18. It's really quite simple. First, you start with yourself, then your parents, then your grandparents... then you QUIT... and start teaching courses in genealogy. 19. If it's not written down, it ain't history yet. 20. In spite of MTV, computer games, or skate boards, there is always a chance your grandchildren will learn how to read someday. 21. "To understand the living, you have to commune with the dead... but don't commune with the dead so long that you forget you are living!" (from Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, by John Berendt) 22. It is a known fact that St. Peter checks all your Family Group Sheets for accuracy before you are allowed to enter the Pearly Gates. 23. Locating the county where your ancestor lived is the first step in finding records about the time he was hauled into court for shooting his neighbor's dog; threatening the census taker with a shotgun; or making illegal corn whiskey behind the barn. 25. When leaving town for genealogical research, you will always find information on the ancestor for whom you brought no notes. 26. When in a courthouse miles from home, you will always find the breakthrough court record at 4:55pm on Friday afternoon. 39. Genealogy is the examination of the maximum amount of data in the maximum amount of time for a minimum result. 43. If you can remember your ancestor's marriage date but not your own, you are probably an addicted genealogist. 44. Genealogy is an addiction with no cure and for which no 12-step program is available. 45. I'm crazy about genealogy, but not necessarily yours. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Shelby, I would definately take very good care of it. lol. Those are the things that keeps genealogy from being boring. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Genealogy Humor > Cousin Gracie; > I have an old letter from one of dads relatives from the county jail wanting > him to come visit him with money, smokes.Is this valuable ? lol > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

With all that is being written about the Brownings, I am concerned that my great grand aunt Laura B. Browning will be left out. My gg grandmother Almira Jarrell Mullins was widowed in 1873 when Andrew Jackson Mullins died. She married Lawrence Laomer Browning s/o Francis and Jane (Spratt) Browning on 16 Nov. 1876. Laura B. Browning was born in 1878 per the 1880 Logan Co. census. Shelby found Laura's grave marker at White Oak cemetary. She died as a child. However, she did exist and was a Browning. Apparently Almira Jarrell Mullins and Laomer Browning divorced. He is somewhere in Boone Co. in 1900 with a new family. Almira took the Mullins name back. Her Mullins children, Marshall Bomont and Lavalette are on the 1880 census with them. I have two gg grandmothers who were widowed at a young age and married Brownings the second time. Elvira Smith Burgess w/o Ransom Burgess married V. S. Browning, and Almira married Laomer Browning. Elvira did have children with V.S. Browning. Rick Stewart

Hi StanThanks for answering; I suppose the Logan land records were spared by the Union army too, just like at the Boone county court house.I wonder how many pack mules were used to carry all the records 400 miles away to Richmond before WV became a state !! Shelby

Cousin Gracie; I have an old letter from one of dads relatives from the county jail wanting him to come visit him with money, smokes.Is this valuable ? lol Shelby

I know the land records were saved when the Boone county court house was burned in the Civil war. All others perished,including birth,death, marriage records. Were any records saved when the Logan court house burned ? Shelby

These are from Bill Dollarhide, a long-time genealogist. He founded the Genealogy Bulletin, has published numerous books on the subject of genealogy and writes a genealogy blog among other things. 1. Death certificates are rarely filled in by the person who died. 2. When visiting a funeral home, wear old clothes, no make-up, and look like you have about a week to live -- the funeral director will give you anything you ask for if he thinks you may be a customer soon. 3. The cemetery where your ancestor was buried does not have perpetual care, has no office, is accessible only by a muddy road, and has snakes, tall grass, and lots of bugs... and many of the old gravestones are in broken pieces, stacked in a corner under a pile of dirt. 4. A Social Security form SS-5 is better than a birth certificate because few people had anything to do with the information on their own birth certificate. 5. Leave no stone unturned -- tombstone, that is. 6. The application for a death certificate you want insists that you provide the maiden name of the deceased's mother -- which is exactly what you don't know and is the reason you are trying to get the death certificate in the first place. 7. If you call Social Security and ask where to write for a birth certificate, tell them it is for yourself -- they won't help you if you say you want one for your great-great-great-great-great-great grandfather who died in 1642. 8. When you contact the state vital statistics office in your home state and ask if they are "on-line," and they respond, "on-what?", you may have a problem. 9. A census record showing all twelve children in a family proves only that your ancestors did not believe in birth control. 10. Work from the known to the unknown. In other words, just because your name is Washington doesn't mean you are related to George. 11. With any luck, some of the people in your family could read and write... and may have left something written about themselves. 12. It ain't history until it's written down. 13. A genealogist needs to be a detective. Just gimmy da facts Ma'am. 14. Always interview brothers and sisters together in the same room -- since they can't agree on anything about the family tree, it makes for great fun to see who throws the first punch. 15. The genealogy book you just found out about went out of print last week. 16. A good genealogical event is learning that your parents were really married. 17. Finding the place a person lived may lead to finding that person's arrest record. 18. It's really quite simple. First, you start with yourself, then your parents, then your grandparents... then you QUIT... and start teaching courses in genealogy. 19. If it's not written down, it ain't history yet. 20. In spite of MTV, computer games, or skate boards, there is always a chance your grandchildren will learn how to read someday. 21. "To understand the living, you have to commune with the dead... but don't commune with the dead so long that you forget you are living!" (from Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil, by John Berendt) 22. It is a known fact that St. Peter checks all your Family Group Sheets for accuracy before you are allowed to enter the Pearly Gates. 23. Locating the county where your ancestor lived is the first step in finding records about the time he was hauled into court for shooting his neighbor's dog; threatening the census taker with a shotgun; or making illegal corn whiskey behind the barn. 25. When leaving town for genealogical research, you will always find information on the ancestor for whom you brought no notes. 26. When in a courthouse miles from home, you will always find the breakthrough court record at 4:55pm on Friday afternoon. 39. Genealogy is the examination of the maximum amount of data in the maximum amount of time for a minimum result. 43. If you can remember your ancestor's marriage date but not your own, you are probably an addicted genealogist. 44. Genealogy is an addiction with no cure and for which no 12-step program is available. 45. I'm crazy about genealogy, but not necessarily yours.

Coming through here in Lancaster, PA! On Apr 28, 2006, at 12:26 PM, undgenol@cox.net wrote: > My email server has made changes and I have not received any mail > from the list since the 27th. Since this is an active list and I > think this is unusual I am testing to see if this goes thru and I > receive a response from the list. Tlhanks, Janice > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

I hear you in Va Janice Ralph ----- Original Message ----- From: <undgenol@cox.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Test > My email server has made changes and I have not received any mail from the > list since the 27th. Since this is an active list and I think this is > unusual I am testing to see if this goes thru and I receive a response > from the list. Tlhanks, Janice > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

On target in northern Ohio Shelby

Shelby, I have found the Logan County land records to be amazingly complete. Those available include, original land grants, land books, surveyors records and deeds. In researching for my book on the Brownings, I was overwhelmed and in some instances had to decide what to exclude. I found records going back to the early grants; for example, Edward (Edmund) Browning in 1825. Continuing with this example, Edmund was in Surveyor's Records in 1824, was listed on the Land Books starting in 1825 and deeded property on Main Island Creek in 1836. The Land Books, which are continuous and were supposed to record land ownership on a yearly basis, are most helpful, but the quality of the old material, plus the tendency of the recorders to skip years and pick them up later, has you going back to the records to verify that you didn't miss something or make a mistake in recording. When you undertake an in-depth study of land transactions in Logan County, be prepared to spend a lot of time and to know a lot of cuss words. STAN On Friday, April 28, 2006, at 10:12 AM, BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: > I know the land records were saved when the Boone county court house > was > burned in the Civil war. All others perished,including birth,death, > marriage > records. Were any records saved when the Logan court house burned ? > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

My email server has made changes and I have not received any mail from the list since the 27th. Since this is an active list and I think this is unusual I am testing to see if this goes thru and I receive a response from the list. Tlhanks, Janice

My email server has made changes and I have not received any mail from the list since the 27th. Since this is an active list and I think this is unusual I am testing to see if this goes thru and I receive a response from the list. Tlhanks, Janice

Coming through on Oahu! Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: <undgenol@cox.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Test

Has anyone looked into the White family in Logan? I'm trying to find information on John White b 9/24/1843 who married Nancy Curry b 1839 I've got John's death cert, but I can't read the names of Father/Mother... Looks like it might be Martin? White and Annie Sampson? Thanks@ Laura

Jim, I've been working on and off on the Curry's though I know it's far from done. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Monday, April 24, 2006 2:33 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] West Virginia Death Records are wonderful Dear Logan County, West Virginia Cousins and Genealogist, There is a ton of information on this web site for our families. If you have not checked out your families you are really missing out. Yes they are frustrating - but they are wonderful http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_dcsearch.aspx So far I have extracted the following Toler Wyoming Toler Logan Toler Boone Burgess Logan Burgess Cabell Burgess Mingo Burgess Boone Burgess Wyoming Burgess Kanawha (working on this) Burgess Greenbrier There will be a ton of related families as I check out collateral lines who maiden names of people who married into my families. There are a ton of people who were born in the 1850 time period whose death records and the names of their parents are appearing on these death certificates. To be able to view and print these death records is huge! I am filling in so many gaps and questions that it is unbelievable. I am more convinced than ever before that with all of the information that is available we can really clean up our South West Virginia families. May I encourage you to update your direct line families with these records? For those of you who consider yourselves genealogist jump into these records they are fabulous, interesting, encouraging and maddening! I just crossed over 7,000 Burgess descendants - thought that I would never reach that. I am really excited. My Toler file is just over 6,600 descendants. I cannot believe how many Toler descendants there are. Everywhere I look there are more Tolers. These death records are terrific for documentation - confirming and finding unknown surnames. They are wonderful. Still mad over what mining has done to our families and West Virgina! No one in Arizona cares so I have to spout off to you guys! thanks Jim Burgess ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx

Most people may already know this but I just found the questions that were asked on the WW1 draft registration cards and I am tickled pink! I've had a terrible time reading the copies of the microfilmed registration cards. Now I know what the questions were. There were three different drafts registrations and the questions varied. You will find these at this site. http://content.ancestry.com/Browse/list.aspx?dbid=6482&path=#Cards

Dear Logan County, West Virginia Cousins and Genealogist, There is a ton of information on this web site for our families. If you have not checked out your families you are really missing out. Yes they are frustrating - but they are wonderful http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_dcsearch.aspx So far I have extracted the following Toler Wyoming Toler Logan Toler Boone Burgess Logan Burgess Cabell Burgess Mingo Burgess Boone Burgess Wyoming Burgess Kanawha (working on this) Burgess Greenbrier There will be a ton of related families as I check out collateral lines who maiden names of people who married into my families. There are a ton of people who were born in the 1850 time period whose death records and the names of their parents are appearing on these death certificates. To be able to view and print these death records is huge! I am filling in so many gaps and questions that it is unbelievable. I am more convinced than ever before that with all of the information that is available we can really clean up our South West Virginia families. May I encourage you to update your direct line families with these records? For those of you who consider yourselves genealogist jump into these records they are fabulous, interesting, encouraging and maddening! I just crossed over 7,000 Burgess descendants - thought that I would never reach that. I am really excited. My Toler file is just over 6,600 descendants. I cannot believe how many Toler descendants there are. Everywhere I look there are more Tolers. These death records are terrific for documentation - confirming and finding unknown surnames. They are wonderful. Still mad over what mining has done to our families and West Virgina! No one in Arizona cares so I have to spout off to you guys! thanks Jim Burgess