Shelby, Are these all children of Willard and Brookie thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: BurgessWV@aol.com [mailto:BurgessWV@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 8:23 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Willard Burgess children #1. Edith m. Delmer Burgess, her cousin 2.Carl m. Maude Ellis 3.Nadell m. Orlie Barker 4. Herbert m. Nadine Aleshire 5.Norene m. Seybert Kinder This all I have on the Willard & Brookie (Jeffrey) Burgess family. I dont know the marriage date of Willard & Brookie. Cuz Shelby ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

Joel What do you know about the Coal Exchange? Who did this research? They have copied all of my mistakes? thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 2:24 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Rebecca Cook born Dec 28 1868 the daughter of Harrison Cook or Harrison Toler? Jim, From the Coal Exchange. Mary Toler 1. 1850 Census, Wyoming Co, VA, taken and 7 Aug 1850, Page 208B, Family #61. Listed as Mary Toler, age 3, born in VA, in household of father, Thomas Toler. 2. 1860 Census, Wyoming Co, WV, transcribed by Pauline Haga. Listed in household of father, Thomas Toler. 3. 1870 Census, Wyoming Co, WV, Oceana Township, Family 40. 4. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 390. 5. "Births of Wyoming Co, WV", Haga, 1868. Rebecca Toler was born on 28 Dec 1868 at Huff's Creek to Harrison Cooke and Mary Toler. Apparently they were not married. Was this James Harrison Cooke? http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafn32.htm#383 Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:19 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Rebecca Cook born Dec 28 1868 the daughter of Harrison Cook or Harrison Toler? Look at this Birth Record! Was Rebecca Toler's father Harrison Cook or Toler? Something goofy here? Wyoming County Birth Records 1853-1884 by Pauline Haga Rebecca Toler born at Huffs Creek Dec 28 (1868) to Harrison Cook and Nancy Toler. Have this as Harrison Toler! Jim Burgess ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Joel, I do not know what to do with this. I need some documentation. Have William Farley listed as the son of Joseph Farley and Elizabeth Toler with the note that he may be the son of William Farley and Virginia Sawyer. I do not have the information to figure this out. thanks for your help again. Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:04 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] William Farley and Lucy A Jim, Joseph and Elizabeth (Toler) Farley are in the 1850 Wyoming County census in household 25 and William and Lucy (Clark) Farley are with Henry Clark in household 199. I believe you are correct that I have this wrong and that William Farley is the s/o William and Virginia (Sawyer) Farley. His brother John Farley was in household 214 in the 1850 Wyoming County census. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 10:38 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] William Farley and Lucy A Dear Logan County, Genealogist and family, I am showing that the following William was the son of Joseph Jackson Farley and Elizabeth Toler Ancestry states that William Farley was the son of William Farley and Virginia Jane Sawyer Which is correct? 1870 Mercer County, West Virginia Jumping Branch, Flat Top, Dwelling 220-219 FARLEY, William 39 White Male Virginia FARLEY, Lucy A 38 White Female Virginia FARLEY, John A 19 White Male Virginia FARLEY, Mary 17 White Female Virginia FARLEY, Adline 14 White Female Virginia FARLEY, Henry 12 White Male Virginia FARLEY, Louisa 9 White Female Virginia FARLEY, William 6 White Male West Virginia FARLEY, Elizabeth 3 White Female West Virginia 1880 Mercer County, West Virginia, Jumping Branch District Dwelling 65-70 FARLEY, William 52 White Male WV WV WV FARLEY, Lucy A 49 White Female VA VA VA FARLEY, Henry 22 White Male FARLEY, Louisa 19 White Female FARLEY, William J 16 White Male FARLEY, Robert L 9 White Male FARLEY, Christopher C 7 White Male FARLEY, John G G V 6 White Male -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 7:07 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Allen Blankenship and Sarah Toler Jim, The 1870 census should be Wyoming County and is James Allen and Sarah (Toler) Blankenship. James Allen Blankenship was in the Huff's Creek Dist., Wyoming County in the 1880 census. The 1900 census is Allen Calhoun and Dollie (Goodman) Blankenship. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 2:30 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Allen Blankenship and Sarah Toler Are these two gentlemen the same person? Sarah is the daughter of Squire Toler and Elizabeth Blankenship. Is Dollie the second or third wife of Allen Blankenship - even James Allen Blankenship? 1870 Logan County, West Virginia Census Clear Fork District Dwelling 11 Blankenship, Allen 21 Blankenship, Sarah 25 Blankenship, Staton 2 Blankenship, Mary V 1/12 Not able to find in the 1880 Census - They must be there somewhere? 1900 Wyoming County, West Virginia Clearfork District District 14 Dwelling 162 Blankenship, Allen White Male Feb 1844 West Virginia Blankenship, Dollie White Female Apr 1877 West Virginia Blankenship, Lilly White Female Mar 1885 West Virginia Blankenship, Rosa White Female Mar 1887 West Virginia Blankenship, Rhoda White Female May 1896 West Virginia Blankenship, Hannie White Female Sep 1897 West Virginia Blankenship, Bud White Male May 1900 West Virginia Looks good - do not have a clue if this is a match! Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 10:49 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Toler Descendants 3rd Generations daughters who married Joel, Thanks for this information. So sad to see children die so early in life. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 9:09 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Toler Descendants 3rd Generations daughters who married Jim, I discovered a Toler connection to my Hager family. I am sorry I have only death records for the known children. Joel 6. Juanita Toler-[291241] (Charles Dolt 1) was born on 23 Dec 1922 in Logan County, West Virginia, died on 6 Sep 1969 in Milton, Cabell County, West Virginia at age 46, and was buried in White Chapel Cemetery, Barboursville, Cabell County, West Virginia. 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I know I've sent this down the list before, but.. I know there are a lot of new people here. I have a picture online taken in 1940 of the Guyan Eagle Mine #1 Tipple Crew. This mine is/was in Amherstdale on Buffalo Creek. I'm still trying to identify some of the men in the picture. The link to the picture is http://www.firstalertalums.com/wvlogan/guyancoal.htm Thanks! Laura

Many on this list have inquired about the availability of my book: TRACKING THE PIONEERS II: A History of Browning Families of Southern West Virginia. It is now available for purchase on line or directly from the author. For details and a preview of the contents, go to www.lulu.com/content/284490 and click on “Preview this Book,” or contact me directly. STAN

Going to Logan County this weekend; we have a small reunion Sunday at Blair,WV Just had an eye operation, and Dr. says to not do any mountain climbing,so I will have to delegate some able body person to visit some of the cemeterys. See you when I get back. Shelby

Hi, everyone Just thought I would mention that Ancestry now has the WW11 draft cards. Lots and lots of WV Hagers there. They don't have all of them up yet. None for Okla yet. Gracie

Did you find your Branhams in the book ?All my Baisdens are there. Shelby

Thanks. It's something I do to remind myself not everyone had this holiday and a day off work to cook hot dogs, burgers and be with their families. Sadly, that's still true. Sue At 12:55 PM 5/26/06 -0400, you wrote: >That letter was great,Sue I hve one addressed in world war one from a soldier >to my mom. Its real mushy. Will post it later on > >Shelby > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

That letter was great,Sue I hve one addressed in world war one from a soldier to my mom. Its real mushy. Will post it later on Shelby

In the spirit of Memorial Day, thought one of dad's letters near that date might be okay to post. A taste of a WWII soldier's life. Sue Webb Bodishbaugh * May 8, 1945 TO: Mrs. Betty Webb, Station Hospital, Ward-12, Warner Robins, Ga. FROM: T/Sgt. M.Webb, 15018667, 1050 AAF, BU, ORD, Sqdn.M, Kearns, Utah VIA AIR MAIL .08 cent stamp, POSTMARKED: May 9, 1945, Salt Lake City, Utah Dearest Betty: Received three letters from you today. Air mail seems to get out here in two days. Should hear from you tomorrow, that is if you are in any shape to write. I want to know everything. [Mom was in the hospital, I'd just been born.] This V-E day doesn't mean too much here. All military personnel are restricted for 48-hours. We had to stand at parade today at 5:00 o'clock, fell out at 3:30 to get in formation. Must have been 10,000 men on the field. The sun was terrible hot, men folded up and passed out all around, must have been fifty passed out. This high altitude, app. 5000 feet and hot sun, plus over an hour standing in formation, was more than the men could take. I came through alright but couldn't have lasted much longer. Well, dearest, from the way men are coming in someone has to leave soon. Tomorrow my flight goes up in the mountain to fire carbine and machine guns. It is about 3 miles up there. Think we will be alerted this week. Still have no idea where we are going. One group went out not long ago, went to Russia and we have already got a lecture on cold climate. Do you need cigarettes? Sure a hard job to mail anything out of here, got about 5 miles to walk but if you want cigarettes tell me. If I am here will fix you up. Got plenty of candy here, up until yesterday could buy a box but not any more. We are starting to get a little PT, taking it in GI shoes, leggings and coveralls, sure is rough baby. Am only hoping Japan will fold up soon so this thing will be over. Say, that letter I wrote you Sunday and put the pictures and silver dollar in the letter, it was awful heavy, took it to the PO this morning and the PM said it would go free, so it went out today at noon, you will know when to expect it. Am sending you a copy of the CAMP KEARNS newspaper. Mailing it tonight, but FREE. I am awful tired tonight so must quit for tonight. I love you. Your husband, Mac Ps-We are having a dust storm and had wind, just put all windows down and closed the door. Looks like we may have to put on gas mask. Some wind and dust! Mac June 28, 1945 TO: Mrs. Betty Webb, 294 Matheson Dr., Macon, Georgia FROM: T/Sgt. M. Webb, 15018667, Sq.A-5-APO-19491-A, c/o PM, San Francisco, Cal. VIA AIR MAIL .06 cent stamp. "West Coast." Dearest Darling: Received your two letters today that you wrote last Tuesday and Wednesday. Life is very quiet around here tonight, only a few of us in the barracks. Most of the fellows are in town, trying to catch up on everything for the bad days ahead. Was in with HILL last night, walked in to the nearest one, and drank quite a bit of beer. So we are staying in tonight, but went to the PX for a beer. This stuff on the field, well, I just don't care for it, but they do have good beer in town. Maybe I should have went in tonight, hope to make it tomorrow if we can get passes. If no passes, well, we'll just spend another night on the base like the ones at Kearns. Rather lonesome here tonight, if there is any thing I hate to hear it is a boat whistle. They seem to be trying to outdo themselves tonight. It sure sounds lonesome when we know it won't be long until one will take us out. I am getting some practice on the future - writing. The mosquitos are worse here than in Macon. The barracks doesn't have screens so they are rather thick. I have my mosquito net on my bed and writing from under the net. Will probably get lots of that before I see you again. Mac >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Carole Kathy is my name, it is just easier to type K. This would have been in Logan County. It gives a huge description. It was over 500,000 acres. It says Wythe and Russell Counties now being principally in the county of Logan. K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Hammond" <carole.hammond@comcast.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 4:43 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Belcher - Toler - Brown - Browning - Blankenship families > Thanks, K! > > By the way....what is your first name? So the Abner Vance in this lawsuit > could be one of at least three men: > > Abner, Jr., son of Abner & Susanna > Abner, son of Richard and grandson of Abner & Susanna > Abner H., son of Elijah said to be the son of Abner & Susanna > > Does it say where this Abner Vance lived? > > Thanks a lot, Carole > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

At the bottom of this file is a place to list the names of descendants who are on the mailing list. Do we have anyone who is a descendant of James Dolliver Brown? Information organized by Jim Burgess & Vanessa Allen Reference Book of Wyoming County History Mary Keller Bowman page 400 6. Isaac Brown married Isabel "Ibbie" Brown; children were James Dolliver Brown, how married __________Toler. James Dolliver Brown was born 15 Apr 1849 in Logan County, West Virginia the son of Isaac Brown and Isabel. James Dolliver Brown died 23 Jan 1929 in Logan County, West Virginia Burial - Open for discussion Nancy H Toler was born about 1852 the daughter of Isaac Martin Toler and Courtney W Barnes Nancy died before 1882 Bethena Alice Toler was born 24 Apr 1862 in Logan County the daughter of Isaac Martin Toler and Courtney W Barnes. Bethena Alice Toler died 2 Sep 1945 in Logan County, West Virginia. Nancy and Bethena were sisters. Note: the marriage record in Logan County states that Bethena A Toler was the daughter of Abner Toler and Virginia Perry (we have a discrepancy here folks?) James Dolliver Brown and Nancy H. Toler Brown were listed on the next page, in dwelling #113 in 1870. Chap Toler was age 14 in 1870 (not 19). There's a tiny little mark above his name that may say "Wm". Chap was Nancy's brother, and he later married Sarah Isabel Perry. Vanessa Allen Wyoming County, West Virginia Marriage Records 1850-1900 by Pauline Haga 26 Jan 1869 Volume I Brown, James D 19 born Logan County, Virginia son of Isaac and Isabel Toler, Nancy H 19 born Wyoming County, daughter J M and Coatney 1870 Logan County, West Virginia Census Tridelphia District Dwelling 113 Brown, James D White Male 21 WV Brown, Nancy H White Female 16 WV Brown, Noah White Male 7/12 WV Toler, William Chapman White Male 14 WV 1870 census, Logan Co, WV, pp 550A & B, Triadelphia #107 Isabel TOLER White Female 44 Lewis C.Brown White Male 19 Rhodes Brown White Male 13 Brown, Virginia White Female 11 Toler, Bethena A White Female 8 Brown, Isaac White Male 7 Toler, Araminta White Female 1 NOTE: Lewis, Rhodes, Virginia, and Isaac Jr. were children of Isabel and her first husband Isaac Brown. Bethena A. was Alice Toler, youngest daughter of Isaac Martin Toler and his previous wife Courtney Barnes. Arminta Toler was the daughter of Isabel and her second husband Isaac Martin Toler. Vanessa Allen 1880 Logan County, West Virginia Census Tridelphia District Dwelling 99 Brown, James D White Male 31 WV WV WV Brown, Nancy White Female 29 WV WV WV Brown, Gnoah White Male 8 (difficult to read but must be Noah) Brown, Cora White Female 7 Brown, Victoria White Female 4 Brown, Ellen White Female 3 Brown, Isaac White Female 1 Toler, Alice White Female 17 Wyoming County, West Virginia Marriages 1872-1892 compiled by Donna Brown Sep 21, 1882 Logan County Farming James Glendening Minister Brown James D 32 Toler, Bethana A 22 Logan County, West Virginia Logan County, Virginia Wyoming County Logan County Isaac Brown Isobel Vance Abner Toler Virginia Perry In 1900, James D. and Alice were listed in the Logan County census on page 68A, Triadelphia District #124-125. 1900 Logan County, West Virginia Tridelphia District Dwelling 124-125 Brown, James D White Male Apr 1849 married age 28 WV WV WV Brown, Alice White Female May 1870 married age 18 WV WV WV 9 children 9 living Brown, Lizzie White Female Apr 1883 Brown, Mary White Female Apr 1886 Brown, John White Male Jun 1890 Brown, Bittle White Male April 1891 Brown, Roy White Male Feb 1893 Twin Brown, Ada White Female Feb 1893 Twin Brown, Bessie White Female Dec 1895 Brown, Ezra White Male May 1898 Twin Brown, Elsie White Female May 1898 Twin Farley, Samuel Black Male Apr 1862 Boarder WV WV WV In 1910, James D. and Alice were listed on page 154B, Triadelphia #125-134. 1910 Logan County, West Virginia Census Tridelphia Dwelling 125-134 Brown, James D Male White 62 married twice married age 26 WV WV WV Brown, Alice Female White 27 married once marrage age 26 WV WV WV Brown, Bittle Male White 19 Brown, Addie Female White 17 Brown, Roy Male White 17 Brown, Bessie Female White 15 Brown, Ezra Male White 11 Brown, Ellise Female White 11 Brown, Lura Female White 8 daughter Devany, Jay L Male White 1 8/12 grandson In 1920, J.D. and Alice were listed on page 279B, Triadelphia #143. 1920 Logan County, West Virginia Census Tridlephia District Dwelling 143 Brown, J D Male White 72 WV WV WV Head Brown, Alice Female White 56 WV WV WV wife Brown, Jay Male White 16 Brown, Ezra Male White 19 Brown, Basil Male White 11 Is this our Alice? Did she remarried after James Dolliver Brown died? 1930 Wyoming County, West Virginia Oceana District Dwelling 99-103 Brown, J M Male White 50 married 18 WV Brown, Alice Female White 68 married 50 WV B??se, Georgia Female White 14 WV Goodman, Ruth Female White 16 WV Joe Thomas has the book that Alice Harrison wrote. I think it's mostly about James Dolliver Brown and his large family - all of his children and their families. Alice Harrison is the granddaughter of James Dolliver Brown and Bethena Alice Toler. Here's something that Alice Harrison wrote: James Dolliver Brown, son of Issac and Isabel Brown, was born April 15, 1849, departed this life January 23, 1929, age 79 years. He was a native of Logan County, having been born and reared here. He was first united in marriage to Nancy H. Toler on January 1, 1869 and to this union six children were born. Following the death of Nancy in 1882, he married Alice B. Toler, her sister, on September 21, 1882. We do not know the cause of death, but it had been told to us on several occasions that Alice was staying with them at the time of her illness to help out and they were married shortly after. To this union were born eleven children. We do not know where they lived at this time but we are assuming somewhere on Big Huff Creek, but on July 5, 1893 James Dolliver bought 76 acres below the Claypool Church and there he remained raising his family. He was the highest bidder for this property, which was $50.50. It was purchased from the Logan County School of Lands. The School of Lands was established by the state to dispose of unclaimed property and delinquent tax property in order to have people settle in different areas. This is a hand/written deed recorded in the Logan County court House, which was searched by Alice Harrison and her son, Eddie. The majority of all the family still living did not have the privilege of visiting in the home of Grandma and Grandpa's as he died in 1929 and Grandma soon broke up housekeeping after that. I remember bug gardens, fruit trees and especially the red raspberries along the road leading to the house. Others remember the old well, and the branch behind the house with such pretty clean water. The old log house, which had some rooms added on, was nestled between two large mountains. On the level ground they raised all of their vegetables, had their barn and chicken house near by, and back on the mountain they had what they called "new grounds" where they raised corn and usually potatoes. Everything was hard to come by, but I am sure they had so much happiness, as well as sorrow, but they knew how to cope. They had to have great faith in God. The Claypool Methodist church was soon built in 1886. James Dolliver was converted among the Methodists in 1881. He assisted in building the old Claypool Chapel, which still stands, having scored the logs with broad/axe along with Rev A.J. Workman, Chapman Harless, Dow Hinchman, C.C. McVey. The land was given for the church by William Claypool. Many revival sessions occurred in this little church. Grandma and Grandpa's home was always open for visitors and the visiting ministers were always welcome to stay. The above was written by Alice Harrison. (Information provided by Vanessa Allen) Jim Burgess & Vanessa Allen Descendants: Jim Burgess & Vanessa Allen

Jim, the last thing we want to happen is for the Suns to lose. I guess you know they have one of our own at the helm. Mike D'Antoni played basketball at Mullins in Wyoming County and graduated from Marshall University. His dad, Lewis, was the coach at Mullins when I was in high school at Oceana. Lewis D'Antoni is a WV legend. STAN On Thursday, May 25, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jim Burgess wrote: > Stan, > > Thanks for your comments. > > I agree completely. At this point in time I have several more months > of > work > to get done what I need to do. > > You are correct on the Tax List. The problem is that I have so many > other > irons > in the fire, I just need more time. > > For some reason, my work has been much better on this project than it > has > been on > others. I believe that readers will be very happy with the > documentation. > > Right now I want to keep my nose to the grind stone to this project in > hand. > > As stated before I want to get to 10,000 names and 1,000 pages of > documentation and > families. I am almost 75% of the way there. My plans are to post this > information on > my web site when I get to the 90% area. > > It is my hope that people will be pleased to find their family and the > documentation > a surprise. > > I am really enjoying this project - the people who are helping me are > wonderful. > Have never had so much help. > > My motivation is high and I am plugging along - if the suns would lose > I > would be a > lot further along. > > Sill do not know who much to send you for the Browning Book > > thanks > Jim Burgess > > -----Original Message----- > From: STANLEY BROWNING [mailto:garnet@utah-inter.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:04 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BULK][WVLOGAN] Sources to be included for Logan Wyoming > County Toler families and other families - Join our Toler Mailing List > > > Jim: > > Congratulations to the group on the great progress on the Toler family > research. I have been mostly an innocent bystander but would like to > make a couple of suggestions anyway. First, I think one of the best > sources of information for determining people locations is the Virginia > personal property tax lists. The early tax records of the Virginian > counties still survive and list all individuals charged with a tax. > Except for 1808, they should be variously available for all Virginia > Counties from about 1780 to modern times. The Logan records are > partially available at the Logan Website as a result of the diligent > efforts of Vicie Fowler and Donna Brown. An effort is underway > elsewhere to get all the Virginia records for 1790 and 1800 on line. > (Note: there are no surviving Virginia census records for those years, > and the tax lists have been used as an alternative to the census for > the missing 1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses of Virginia.) > > My second comment is: There needs to be some special way to let the > general public know of the credibility of your study. Otherwise, those > outside your circle will not be able to differentiate from the > multitude of files that have not been as carefully constructed as > yours. > > STAN > > > > > On Thursday, May 25, 2006, at 09:20 AM, Jim Burgess wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> Toler Family Connections is being organized - if you would like to >> join our >> group just enter subscribe in the Subject line at >> >> TolerFamilyConnections@yahoogroups.com >> >> Anyone who is a descendant of or interested in the family of David >> Toler and >> Susanna >> of Giles,Logan, Wyoming, County, Virginia and West Virginia are >> invited to >> join us. >> >> We should remind you that there are a lot of other surnames that >> married >> into the >> Toler family. Some are Brown, Grimmett, Blankenship, Cline, Morgan, >> Smith, >> Paynter, >> Hatfield, Burgess, etc >> >> Question? (What should we include as source information on each >> family?) >> >> Can we discuss what sources and documentation should be included? >> >> What Sources do we have available? >> Census Records 1800-1930 >> Reference Book of Wyoming County, West Virginia >> Wyoming County Birth Marriage Death Wills >> Wyoming County Deed Books (need help on this one!) >> West Virginia Death Records >> http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx >> Logan County Birth Death and Marriage Records >> Logan County Deed books & Wills (need help on this!) >> History of Logan County by Henry Clay Ragland >> World War I Draft Registration >> >> What other records should we include? >> >> How should we submit information to Toler Family Connections >> >> a. May I propose that we discuss one or two proposed families at a >> time on >> the mailing list. >> b. Send the information to the group >> c. Share information with each other and correct mistakes! >> d. Put the information in date order. >> e. Identify each source clearly. >> f. One person would volunteer for one family to organize information >> on that >> family. >> We should call this person Administrator for James Dolliver Brown! >> g. When the group agrees that we have the information correct we post >> the >> information to >> Toler Family Connections. >> h. The information should be in date order for the events that >> occured. >> i. The subject line should have the family being discussed and the >> administrator for >> that family. ie James Dolliver Brown 1940-1929 - Administrator -Jim >> Burgess >> j. When we agree that the information is correct we should post that >> information in our data bases and on our web site by family >> ie James Dolliver Brown 1849 - 1929. (Just in case we have two people >> with >> the same name.) >> k. I will put the information in the notes section to be printed in >> The >> Toler Family Book. >> l. We should include stories etc in these notes. >> >> Our goal should be to have accurate information that is not cluttered >> with >> incorrect information. >> >> Since we have been discussing James "Bad Hair" Dolliver Brown and his >> wives >> Nancy Toler and Bethena Alice Toler I would like to ask that we use >> this >> family as our first prototype. >> >> Where did he get the name "Bad Hair"? I would like to send the >> documentation for James Dolliver >> Brown's family this evening so that we can discuss the documentation. >> >> We do need a way to see the family with children their vital >> statistics and >> spouses. >> >> Any discussion on any of the above? >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> the >> areas they lived. 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Dear Logan County Genealogist and cousins, On the next email I am going to send a compilation on James Dolliver Brown - Nancy Toler - Bethena Alice Toler In no way do I claim that this information is completely correct. I do believe that it should be a beginning to our discussing our families. I am open to corrections, comments, more information. I need your suggestions on how we should lay out the childrens of both marriages. I need your suggestions. When most of us agree that this information is correct (after corrections have been made - We can post the record. Do we have deeds or more information that should be included? Where did he get the name "Bad Hair" I cannot document this! Can we discuss this family? Lastly we should file these evaluations under each family name in our computers (in my humble opinion!) Thanks Jim Burgess

Yes Mike was at Marshall just after I graduated. Jim -----Original Message----- From: STANLEY BROWNING [mailto:garnet@utah-inter.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 9:55 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BULK][WVLOGAN] Toler Tax List - Wish I had more time! Jim, the last thing we want to happen is for the Suns to lose. I guess you know they have one of our own at the helm. Mike D'Antoni played basketball at Mullins in Wyoming County and graduated from Marshall University. His dad, Lewis, was the coach at Mullins when I was in high school at Oceana. Lewis D'Antoni is a WV legend. STAN On Thursday, May 25, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Jim Burgess wrote: > Stan, > > Thanks for your comments. > > I agree completely. At this point in time I have several more months > of > work > to get done what I need to do. > > You are correct on the Tax List. The problem is that I have so many > other > irons > in the fire, I just need more time. > > For some reason, my work has been much better on this project than it > has > been on > others. I believe that readers will be very happy with the > documentation. > > Right now I want to keep my nose to the grind stone to this project in > hand. > > As stated before I want to get to 10,000 names and 1,000 pages of > documentation and > families. I am almost 75% of the way there. My plans are to post this > information on > my web site when I get to the 90% area. > > It is my hope that people will be pleased to find their family and the > documentation > a surprise. > > I am really enjoying this project - the people who are helping me are > wonderful. > Have never had so much help. > > My motivation is high and I am plugging along - if the suns would lose > I > would be a > lot further along. > > Sill do not know who much to send you for the Browning Book > > thanks > Jim Burgess > > -----Original Message----- > From: STANLEY BROWNING [mailto:garnet@utah-inter.net] > Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:04 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BULK][WVLOGAN] Sources to be included for Logan Wyoming > County Toler families and other families - Join our Toler Mailing List > > > Jim: > > Congratulations to the group on the great progress on the Toler family > research. I have been mostly an innocent bystander but would like to > make a couple of suggestions anyway. First, I think one of the best > sources of information for determining people locations is the Virginia > personal property tax lists. The early tax records of the Virginian > counties still survive and list all individuals charged with a tax. > Except for 1808, they should be variously available for all Virginia > Counties from about 1780 to modern times. The Logan records are > partially available at the Logan Website as a result of the diligent > efforts of Vicie Fowler and Donna Brown. An effort is underway > elsewhere to get all the Virginia records for 1790 and 1800 on line. > (Note: there are no surviving Virginia census records for those years, > and the tax lists have been used as an alternative to the census for > the missing 1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses of Virginia.) > > My second comment is: There needs to be some special way to let the > general public know of the credibility of your study. Otherwise, those > outside your circle will not be able to differentiate from the > multitude of files that have not been as carefully constructed as > yours. > > STAN > > > > > On Thursday, May 25, 2006, at 09:20 AM, Jim Burgess wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> Toler Family Connections is being organized - if you would like to >> join our >> group just enter subscribe in the Subject line at >> >> TolerFamilyConnections@yahoogroups.com >> >> Anyone who is a descendant of or interested in the family of David >> Toler and >> Susanna >> of Giles,Logan, Wyoming, County, Virginia and West Virginia are >> invited to >> join us. >> >> We should remind you that there are a lot of other surnames that >> married >> into the >> Toler family. Some are Brown, Grimmett, Blankenship, Cline, Morgan, >> Smith, >> Paynter, >> Hatfield, Burgess, etc >> >> Question? (What should we include as source information on each >> family?) >> >> Can we discuss what sources and documentation should be included? >> >> What Sources do we have available? >> Census Records 1800-1930 >> Reference Book of Wyoming County, West Virginia >> Wyoming County Birth Marriage Death Wills >> Wyoming County Deed Books (need help on this one!) >> West Virginia Death Records >> http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx >> Logan County Birth Death and Marriage Records >> Logan County Deed books & Wills (need help on this!) >> History of Logan County by Henry Clay Ragland >> World War I Draft Registration >> >> What other records should we include? >> >> How should we submit information to Toler Family Connections >> >> a. May I propose that we discuss one or two proposed families at a >> time on >> the mailing list. >> b. Send the information to the group >> c. Share information with each other and correct mistakes! >> d. Put the information in date order. >> e. Identify each source clearly. >> f. One person would volunteer for one family to organize information >> on that >> family. >> We should call this person Administrator for James Dolliver Brown! >> g. When the group agrees that we have the information correct we post >> the >> information to >> Toler Family Connections. >> h. The information should be in date order for the events that >> occured. >> i. The subject line should have the family being discussed and the >> administrator for >> that family. ie James Dolliver Brown 1940-1929 - Administrator -Jim >> Burgess >> j. When we agree that the information is correct we should post that >> information in our data bases and on our web site by family >> ie James Dolliver Brown 1849 - 1929. (Just in case we have two people >> with >> the same name.) >> k. I will put the information in the notes section to be printed in >> The >> Toler Family Book. >> l. We should include stories etc in these notes. >> >> Our goal should be to have accurate information that is not cluttered >> with >> incorrect information. >> >> Since we have been discussing James "Bad Hair" Dolliver Brown and his >> wives >> Nancy Toler and Bethena Alice Toler I would like to ask that we use >> this >> family as our first prototype. >> >> Where did he get the name "Bad Hair"? I would like to send the >> documentation for James Dolliver >> Brown's family this evening so that we can discuss the documentation. >> >> We do need a way to see the family with children their vital >> statistics and >> spouses. >> >> Any discussion on any of the above? >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and >> the >> areas they lived. 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Jim: Congratulations to the group on the great progress on the Toler family research. I have been mostly an innocent bystander but would like to make a couple of suggestions anyway. First, I think one of the best sources of information for determining people locations is the Virginia personal property tax lists. The early tax records of the Virginian counties still survive and list all individuals charged with a tax. Except for 1808, they should be variously available for all Virginia Counties from about 1780 to modern times. The Logan records are partially available at the Logan Website as a result of the diligent efforts of Vicie Fowler and Donna Brown. An effort is underway elsewhere to get all the Virginia records for 1790 and 1800 on line. (Note: there are no surviving Virginia census records for those years, and the tax lists have been used as an alternative to the census for the missing 1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses of Virginia.) My second comment is: There needs to be some special way to let the general public know of the credibility of your study. Otherwise, those outside your circle will not be able to differentiate from the multitude of files that have not been as carefully constructed as yours. STAN On Thursday, May 25, 2006, at 09:20 AM, Jim Burgess wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Toler Family Connections is being organized - if you would like to > join our > group just enter subscribe in the Subject line at > > TolerFamilyConnections@yahoogroups.com > > Anyone who is a descendant of or interested in the family of David > Toler and > Susanna > of Giles,Logan, Wyoming, County, Virginia and West Virginia are > invited to > join us. > > We should remind you that there are a lot of other surnames that > married > into the > Toler family. Some are Brown, Grimmett, Blankenship, Cline, Morgan, > Smith, > Paynter, > Hatfield, Burgess, etc > > Question? (What should we include as source information on each > family?) > > Can we discuss what sources and documentation should be included? > > What Sources do we have available? > Census Records 1800-1930 > Reference Book of Wyoming County, West Virginia > Wyoming County Birth Marriage Death Wills > Wyoming County Deed Books (need help on this one!) > West Virginia Death Records > http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx > Logan County Birth Death and Marriage Records > Logan County Deed books & Wills (need help on this!) > History of Logan County by Henry Clay Ragland > World War I Draft Registration > > What other records should we include? > > How should we submit information to Toler Family Connections > > a. May I propose that we discuss one or two proposed families at a > time on > the mailing list. > b. Send the information to the group > c. Share information with each other and correct mistakes! > d. Put the information in date order. > e. Identify each source clearly. > f. One person would volunteer for one family to organize information > on that > family. > We should call this person Administrator for James Dolliver Brown! > g. When the group agrees that we have the information correct we post > the > information to > Toler Family Connections. > h. The information should be in date order for the events that occured. > i. The subject line should have the family being discussed and the > administrator for > that family. ie James Dolliver Brown 1940-1929 - Administrator -Jim > Burgess > j. When we agree that the information is correct we should post that > information in our data bases and on our web site by family > ie James Dolliver Brown 1849 - 1929. (Just in case we have two people > with > the same name.) > k. I will put the information in the notes section to be printed in The > Toler Family Book. > l. We should include stories etc in these notes. > > Our goal should be to have accurate information that is not cluttered > with > incorrect information. > > Since we have been discussing James "Bad Hair" Dolliver Brown and his > wives > Nancy Toler and Bethena Alice Toler I would like to ask that we use > this > family as our first prototype. > > Where did he get the name "Bad Hair"? I would like to send the > documentation for James Dolliver > Brown's family this evening so that we can discuss the documentation. > > We do need a way to see the family with children their vital > statistics and > spouses. > > Any discussion on any of the above? > > Jim Burgess > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Stan, Thanks for your comments. I agree completely. At this point in time I have several more months of work to get done what I need to do. You are correct on the Tax List. The problem is that I have so many other irons in the fire, I just need more time. For some reason, my work has been much better on this project than it has been on others. I believe that readers will be very happy with the documentation. Right now I want to keep my nose to the grind stone to this project in hand. As stated before I want to get to 10,000 names and 1,000 pages of documentation and families. I am almost 75% of the way there. My plans are to post this information on my web site when I get to the 90% area. It is my hope that people will be pleased to find their family and the documentation a surprise. I am really enjoying this project - the people who are helping me are wonderful. Have never had so much help. My motivation is high and I am plugging along - if the suns would lose I would be a lot further along. Sill do not know who much to send you for the Browning Book thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: STANLEY BROWNING [mailto:garnet@utah-inter.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 1:04 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BULK][WVLOGAN] Sources to be included for Logan Wyoming County Toler families and other families - Join our Toler Mailing List Jim: Congratulations to the group on the great progress on the Toler family research. I have been mostly an innocent bystander but would like to make a couple of suggestions anyway. First, I think one of the best sources of information for determining people locations is the Virginia personal property tax lists. The early tax records of the Virginian counties still survive and list all individuals charged with a tax. Except for 1808, they should be variously available for all Virginia Counties from about 1780 to modern times. The Logan records are partially available at the Logan Website as a result of the diligent efforts of Vicie Fowler and Donna Brown. An effort is underway elsewhere to get all the Virginia records for 1790 and 1800 on line. (Note: there are no surviving Virginia census records for those years, and the tax lists have been used as an alternative to the census for the missing 1790 and 1800 Federal Censuses of Virginia.) My second comment is: There needs to be some special way to let the general public know of the credibility of your study. Otherwise, those outside your circle will not be able to differentiate from the multitude of files that have not been as carefully constructed as yours. STAN On Thursday, May 25, 2006, at 09:20 AM, Jim Burgess wrote: > Dear Friends, > > Toler Family Connections is being organized - if you would like to > join our > group just enter subscribe in the Subject line at > > TolerFamilyConnections@yahoogroups.com > > Anyone who is a descendant of or interested in the family of David > Toler and > Susanna > of Giles,Logan, Wyoming, County, Virginia and West Virginia are > invited to > join us. > > We should remind you that there are a lot of other surnames that > married > into the > Toler family. Some are Brown, Grimmett, Blankenship, Cline, Morgan, > Smith, > Paynter, > Hatfield, Burgess, etc > > Question? (What should we include as source information on each > family?) > > Can we discuss what sources and documentation should be included? > > What Sources do we have available? > Census Records 1800-1930 > Reference Book of Wyoming County, West Virginia > Wyoming County Birth Marriage Death Wills > Wyoming County Deed Books (need help on this one!) > West Virginia Death Records > http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx > Logan County Birth Death and Marriage Records > Logan County Deed books & Wills (need help on this!) > History of Logan County by Henry Clay Ragland > World War I Draft Registration > > What other records should we include? > > How should we submit information to Toler Family Connections > > a. May I propose that we discuss one or two proposed families at a > time on > the mailing list. > b. Send the information to the group > c. Share information with each other and correct mistakes! > d. Put the information in date order. > e. Identify each source clearly. > f. One person would volunteer for one family to organize information > on that > family. > We should call this person Administrator for James Dolliver Brown! > g. When the group agrees that we have the information correct we post > the > information to > Toler Family Connections. > h. The information should be in date order for the events that occured. > i. The subject line should have the family being discussed and the > administrator for > that family. ie James Dolliver Brown 1940-1929 - Administrator -Jim > Burgess > j. When we agree that the information is correct we should post that > information in our data bases and on our web site by family > ie James Dolliver Brown 1849 - 1929. (Just in case we have two people > with > the same name.) > k. I will put the information in the notes section to be printed in The > Toler Family Book. > l. We should include stories etc in these notes. > > Our goal should be to have accurate information that is not cluttered > with > incorrect information. > > Since we have been discussing James "Bad Hair" Dolliver Brown and his > wives > Nancy Toler and Bethena Alice Toler I would like to ask that we use > this > family as our first prototype. > > Where did he get the name "Bad Hair"? I would like to send the > documentation for James Dolliver > Brown's family this evening so that we can discuss the documentation. > > We do need a way to see the family with children their vital > statistics and > spouses. > > Any discussion on any of the above? > > Jim Burgess > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. 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I believe we should limit each family coverage to one week; we are not all Tolers, or any other one group familys. Let everyone speak & answer. Shelby

Dear Friends, Toler Family Connections is being organized - if you would like to join our group just enter subscribe in the Subject line at TolerFamilyConnections@yahoogroups.com Anyone who is a descendant of or interested in the family of David Toler and Susanna of Giles,Logan, Wyoming, County, Virginia and West Virginia are invited to join us. We should remind you that there are a lot of other surnames that married into the Toler family. Some are Brown, Grimmett, Blankenship, Cline, Morgan, Smith, Paynter, Hatfield, Burgess, etc Question? (What should we include as source information on each family?) Can we discuss what sources and documentation should be included? What Sources do we have available? Census Records 1800-1930 Reference Book of Wyoming County, West Virginia Wyoming County Birth Marriage Death Wills Wyoming County Deed Books (need help on this one!) West Virginia Death Records http://www.wvculture.org/vrr/va_mcsearch.aspx Logan County Birth Death and Marriage Records Logan County Deed books & Wills (need help on this!) History of Logan County by Henry Clay Ragland World War I Draft Registration What other records should we include? How should we submit information to Toler Family Connections a. May I propose that we discuss one or two proposed families at a time on the mailing list. b. Send the information to the group c. Share information with each other and correct mistakes! d. Put the information in date order. e. Identify each source clearly. f. One person would volunteer for one family to organize information on that family. We should call this person Administrator for James Dolliver Brown! g. When the group agrees that we have the information correct we post the information to Toler Family Connections. h. The information should be in date order for the events that occured. i. The subject line should have the family being discussed and the administrator for that family. ie James Dolliver Brown 1940-1929 - Administrator -Jim Burgess j. When we agree that the information is correct we should post that information in our data bases and on our web site by family ie James Dolliver Brown 1849 - 1929. (Just in case we have two people with the same name.) k. I will put the information in the notes section to be printed in The Toler Family Book. l. We should include stories etc in these notes. Our goal should be to have accurate information that is not cluttered with incorrect information. Since we have been discussing James "Bad Hair" Dolliver Brown and his wives Nancy Toler and Bethena Alice Toler I would like to ask that we use this family as our first prototype. Where did he get the name "Bad Hair"? I would like to send the documentation for James Dolliver Brown's family this evening so that we can discuss the documentation. We do need a way to see the family with children their vital statistics and spouses. Any discussion on any of the above? Jim Burgess