Thanks for posting the New York Times article, Beulah ! Shelby

This was sent to me by a former Logan County W.Va. friend. I thought it needed to be shared. Good Article. > By IAN URBINA > Published: May 21, 2006 > WILLLIAMSTOWN, W. Va. * For three decades, Donna Briggs has worked at the > West Virginia Welcome Center here not far from the Ohio border, eagerly > greeting visitors entering her proud state but wistfully watching as much > of > the traffic flows the opposite way. > > "People leave because they have to, not because they want to," Ms. Briggs > said. "Looking over your shoulder and missing home is something West > Virginians know a lot about." > > Ranked behind South Dakota as having the second smallest population growth > of any state, according to 2005 Census Bureau estimates, West Virginia has > struggled to hold on to residents since the early 1950's, when layoffs in > the coal industry sent people elsewhere looking for work. > > For West Virginians, the tension between the economic push to leave and > the > emotional pull to return plays a central role in the state's cultural > identity. > > Just ask a West Virginian about these pressures and they will probably > tell > you a joke. Like the one that asks why the governor of West Virginia has > decided to resign. Answer: because Ford has called its workers back. Or > the > one about the capital of West Virginia being Akron because of all the West > Virginians who moved to Ohio in the 1950's to work in the tire plants. > > But the joke they are most likely to tell is the one in which St. Peter is > escorting a soul through heaven and is asked why there is a section that > is > walled-off. He replies: "Oh, that's where we put the West Virginians. > Otherwise they try to go back home on the weekend." > > The novelist Denise Giardina, a native West Virginian, said the obituary > page of The Charleston Gazette, the state's largest newspaper, was the > best > indicator of the ebb and flow. > > "I've lived a lot of places," Ms. Giardina said. "And I don't think I've > ever seen an obit page like the Gazette's with as many people who have > lived > outside their state their entire life but in death have come back home to > be > buried." > > For added perspective, listen to traditional West Virginia music. > > In July, Scott Hill, a music historian, will release the second volume of > "The Road Home," a compilation of songs about West Virginians longing to > return. > > "You see it in 'The West Virginia Hills,' which talks about leaving and > longing and is the official state song," Mr. Hill said. "You see it in > 'Take > Me Home, Country Roads,' which is our unofficial state song and is what we > sing after major football games." > > He added, "Coal and people have been our two biggest exports for a long > time, which has definitely shaped how we think of ourselves." > > Officials have tried to convince natives to stay and to attract newcomers > and investment. In 2001, the state set aside some $30 million to guarantee > full in-state tuition to students who met grade-point standards and other > testing requirements. > > Last year, Gov. Joe Manchin III began changing a slogan on some state > highway signs from "Wild and Wonderful" to "Open for Business." > > The state has attracted some retirees, but it has had less success in > holding on to its young people. > > West Virginia has the oldest median population of any state, and from 1990 > to 2000 it had a net loss of about 18,000 people in the 18 to 22 age > group. > > In every year since 1997, resident deaths have outnumbered births, > although > the population has stabilized around 1.8 million, down from a peak of 2 > million in 1950. > > Students in the state often joke that in West Virginia the three R's stand > for reading, 'riting and Route 77. The road is nicknamed Hillbilly Highway > because over the years it has delivered so many people to surrounding > states. > > "They say that brown-haired people cross the border going one way and > white-haired people cross it the other," said Bob Henry Baber, the mayor > of > Richwood. "But the truth is that most West Virginians of all ages come > back > continually because they don't feel right anywhere else." > > Richwood, a tiny town about 60 miles east of Charleston in south-central > West Virginia, is famous for its Ramp Feed, a traditional feast > celebrating > the arrival of spring and featuring dishes made with pungent leeks called > ramps that grow wild in the state. > > Each year, the festival draws nearly 1,000 visitors, mostly native West > Virginians returning from out of state, Mr. Baber said. > > After living in Pittsburgh for more than 35 years, Sylvia Ghaznavi, who > sells used books, returned to her hometown Buckhannon two years ago, > taking > her bookstore with her. > > With more than 200,000 books, her store * called Books Books Books * > almost > seems out of place in Buckhannon, a town of about 5,800. Her sales are a > quarter of what they were before the move, but Ms. Ghaznavi stands by her > decision. > > "I know this will sound odd to outsiders, but the air and the hills here > make me feel like I'm where I belong," she said, unfazed as a lone > customer > drifted toward the exit without buying anything. "I finally reached the > point where I was willing to pay whatever price that cost." > > A deeply rooted loyalty to West Virginia remains with those who move > outside > the state's boundaries. > > A couple of years ago, Abercrombie & Fitch came out with a shirt depicting > West Virginia as a haven for incest. The Charleston Gazette published an > op-ed article denouncing the company and defending the state. It was > written > by a native West Virginian living in Massachusetts. > > "It's like the rest of the country fell asleep during geography class," > said > Lionel Jordan, also known as 6'6 240, a popular rapper from Morgantown who > now lives in Atlanta. West Virginian pride is one of his themes. > > "I say I'm from West Virginia, and they all tell me they have a cousin in > Richmond," Mr. Jordan said. "No disrespect to Richmond, but I'm trying to > put my state back on the map." > > Cynthia Olson, who has lived in Vienna, Va., for 11 years, said she and > her > husband, Steve, were going to put their house up for sale. With jobs that > allow them to work from home, she and her husband plan to move to > Hillsboro, > W. Va., where they own a house on the Greenbrier River. > > Mrs. Olson is a native of Richwood. Of her home in Virginia, she said, > "You > take hiking trips here, and within an hour you are hitting cities and > pavement. In West Virginia you enter the wilderness and it goes on and on > for hundreds of miles." > > As for the jokes and negative images, Irene McKinney, West Virginia's poet > laureate, said the stereotypes led natives both to leave and to return. > > Many writers, she said, feel that to be taken seriously by publishers they > need to live outside the state. "But at the same time," she said, "these > stereotypes lead many West Virginians to be defensive about their state, > which contributes to an us-against-the-world sense of identity." > > "We're like hound dogs," she said. "We want to roam, but we feel guilty > and > lost if we stray." > > > Stephen L. Douglas > President > WVU Alumni Association > > Get connected to your Mountaineer > family! Join the WVU Alumni Association > today at http://alumni.wvu.edu. > >

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I also appreciated this. I grew up on the west coast, only visiting WV once in my youth (I was five.) I returned there for my father's funeral (yes, he came home to be buried) as a young adult and was overwhelmed when I stepped off the plane at the airport by a tremendous feeling of being HOME. It really threw me, because I have never had that feeling before or since at any airport other than those in WV. And it happens every time I go back there. LuAnne -----Original Message----- From: Beulah McLemore [mailto:mclemoreb@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:42 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] FW: New York Times Article on West Virginia This was sent to me by a former Logan County W.Va. friend. I thought it needed to be shared. Good Article. > By IAN URBINA > Published: May 21, 2006 > WILLLIAMSTOWN, W. Va. * For three decades, Donna Briggs has worked at the > West Virginia Welcome Center here not far from the Ohio border, > eagerly greeting visitors entering her proud state but wistfully > watching as much > of > the traffic flows the opposite way. > > "People leave because they have to, not because they want to," Ms. Briggs > said. "Looking over your shoulder and missing home is something West > Virginians know a lot about." > > Ranked behind South Dakota as having the second smallest population growth > of any state, according to 2005 Census Bureau estimates, West Virginia has > struggled to hold on to residents since the early 1950's, when layoffs in > the coal industry sent people elsewhere looking for work. > > For West Virginians, the tension between the economic push to leave > and > the > emotional pull to return plays a central role in the state's cultural > identity. > > Just ask a West Virginian about these pressures and they will probably > tell > you a joke. Like the one that asks why the governor of West Virginia has > decided to resign. Answer: because Ford has called its workers back. > Or > the > one about the capital of West Virginia being Akron because of all the West > Virginians who moved to Ohio in the 1950's to work in the tire plants. > > But the joke they are most likely to tell is the one in which St. > Peter is > escorting a soul through heaven and is asked why there is a section that > is > walled-off. He replies: "Oh, that's where we put the West Virginians. > Otherwise they try to go back home on the weekend." > > The novelist Denise Giardina, a native West Virginian, said the obituary > page of The Charleston Gazette, the state's largest newspaper, was the > best > indicator of the ebb and flow. > > "I've lived a lot of places," Ms. Giardina said. "And I don't think I've > ever seen an obit page like the Gazette's with as many people who have > lived > outside their state their entire life but in death have come back home to > be > buried." > > For added perspective, listen to traditional West Virginia music. > > In July, Scott Hill, a music historian, will release the second volume of > "The Road Home," a compilation of songs about West Virginians longing to > return. > > "You see it in 'The West Virginia Hills,' which talks about leaving > and longing and is the official state song," Mr. Hill said. "You see > it in 'Take Me Home, Country Roads,' which is our unofficial state > song and is what we > sing after major football games." > > He added, "Coal and people have been our two biggest exports for a > long time, which has definitely shaped how we think of ourselves." > > Officials have tried to convince natives to stay and to attract newcomers > and investment. In 2001, the state set aside some $30 million to guarantee > full in-state tuition to students who met grade-point standards and other > testing requirements. > > Last year, Gov. Joe Manchin III began changing a slogan on some state > highway signs from "Wild and Wonderful" to "Open for Business." > > The state has attracted some retirees, but it has had less success in > holding on to its young people. > > West Virginia has the oldest median population of any state, and from 1990 > to 2000 it had a net loss of about 18,000 people in the 18 to 22 age > group. > > In every year since 1997, resident deaths have outnumbered births, > although > the population has stabilized around 1.8 million, down from a peak of 2 > million in 1950. > > Students in the state often joke that in West Virginia the three R's stand > for reading, 'riting and Route 77. The road is nicknamed Hillbilly Highway > because over the years it has delivered so many people to surrounding > states. > > "They say that brown-haired people cross the border going one way and > white-haired people cross it the other," said Bob Henry Baber, the mayor > of > Richwood. "But the truth is that most West Virginians of all ages come > back > continually because they don't feel right anywhere else." > > Richwood, a tiny town about 60 miles east of Charleston in south-central > West Virginia, is famous for its Ramp Feed, a traditional feast > celebrating > the arrival of spring and featuring dishes made with pungent leeks called > ramps that grow wild in the state. > > Each year, the festival draws nearly 1,000 visitors, mostly native > West Virginians returning from out of state, Mr. Baber said. > > After living in Pittsburgh for more than 35 years, Sylvia Ghaznavi, > who sells used books, returned to her hometown Buckhannon two years > ago, taking her bookstore with her. > > With more than 200,000 books, her store * called Books Books Books * > almost > seems out of place in Buckhannon, a town of about 5,800. Her sales are a > quarter of what they were before the move, but Ms. Ghaznavi stands by her > decision. > > "I know this will sound odd to outsiders, but the air and the hills here > make me feel like I'm where I belong," she said, unfazed as a lone > customer > drifted toward the exit without buying anything. "I finally reached the > point where I was willing to pay whatever price that cost." > > A deeply rooted loyalty to West Virginia remains with those who move > outside > the state's boundaries. > > A couple of years ago, Abercrombie & Fitch came out with a shirt depicting > West Virginia as a haven for incest. The Charleston Gazette published an > op-ed article denouncing the company and defending the state. It was > written > by a native West Virginian living in Massachusetts. > > "It's like the rest of the country fell asleep during geography > class," > said > Lionel Jordan, also known as 6'6 240, a popular rapper from Morgantown who > now lives in Atlanta. West Virginian pride is one of his themes. > > "I say I'm from West Virginia, and they all tell me they have a cousin in > Richmond," Mr. Jordan said. "No disrespect to Richmond, but I'm trying to > put my state back on the map." > > Cynthia Olson, who has lived in Vienna, Va., for 11 years, said she > and > her > husband, Steve, were going to put their house up for sale. With jobs that > allow them to work from home, she and her husband plan to move to > Hillsboro, > W. Va., where they own a house on the Greenbrier River. > > Mrs. Olson is a native of Richwood. Of her home in Virginia, she said, > "You > take hiking trips here, and within an hour you are hitting cities and > pavement. In West Virginia you enter the wilderness and it goes on and on > for hundreds of miles." > > As for the jokes and negative images, Irene McKinney, West Virginia's poet > laureate, said the stereotypes led natives both to leave and to > return. > > Many writers, she said, feel that to be taken seriously by publishers they > need to live outside the state. "But at the same time," she said, "these > stereotypes lead many West Virginians to be defensive about their state, > which contributes to an us-against-the-world sense of identity." > > "We're like hound dogs," she said. "We want to roam, but we feel > guilty > and > lost if we stray." > > > Stephen L. Douglas > President > WVU Alumni Association > > Get connected to your Mountaineer > family! Join the WVU Alumni Association > today at http://alumni.wvu.edu. > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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What a wonderful article! I hope some day that I can visit Logan and Boone Co. where my Vances lived but time goes quickly now and now I realize that it probably won't happen. The article brought tears to my eyes. Thanks for letting us read it. > This was sent to me by a former Logan County W.Va. friend. I thought it > needed to be shared. Good Article.

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I have some concerns about the marriage record of Elijah CANADA and Susannah Toler being married on 15 Sep 1833 in Pike County, Kentucy and Mark P Kennedy Mar 1833 in West Virginia. These records are usually pretty accurate. Yes I know there could be a mistake. Certainly we may have a red flag. Do we have a descendant who is tracing this family? Jim Burgess 1880 Wyoming County, West Virginia Census page 516C Mart CANADA Self M Male W 42 VA Farmer VA VA Margaret CANADA Wife M Female W 45 VA K. House VA VA Eli CANADA Son S Male W 17 WV Laborer VA VA John CANADA Son S Male W 14 WV Laborer VA VA Henry CANADA Son S Male W 13 WV Laborer VA VA Albert CANADA Son S Male W 11 WV Laborer VA VA Polly CANADA Dau S Female W 5 WV VA VA Mina CANADA Dau S Female W 3 WV VA VA Cleophelous CANADA Brother S Male W 20 VA Laborer VA VA Susan CANADA Mother W Female W 65 WV VA VA Ballard CANADA Son S Male W 8 WV VA VA Source Information: Census Place Clear Fork, Wyoming, West Virginia Family History Library Film 1255416 NA Film Number T9-1416 Page Number 516C 1900 Wyoming County, West Virginia Clearfork District Dwelling 153 KENNEDY, Mark P Male White Mar 1833 married 42 years WV VA WV KENNEDY, Margaret Female White May 1828 9 children 5 living KENNEDY, Burnett A Male White May 1891 grandson -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:53 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler parents in Logan County or Wyoming County Jim, Just some thoughts. Could Susannah Toler have been a Duncan d/o Mark Patterson and Elizabeth (Harvey) Duncan and married a Toler first and Elijah Canada second or took the name Toler after her mother remarried? That would help to explain the first child being named Marcus Patterson Canada and first daughter named Elizabeth Canada. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:51 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler parents in Logan County or Wyoming County Toler Ladies (Unknown Parents) Please accept my apologies if you receive this email several times! We have four Toler ladies that have unidentified parents. We are looking for descendants who may be able to document their parents and provide other information on descendants! These ladies must be daughters of Zachariah Toler, Elisha Toler and William Toler! Can you help us identify their parents? 1. Susannah Toler was born about 1812 in Virginia. Susannah Toler married Elijah Canada 13 Sep 1833 in Pike County, Kentucky. Elijah Canada was born about 1798 in North Carolina. Note: They named a son Marcus Patterson Toler 4 Mar 1858 in Wyoming County, West Virginia. Thanks to Vanessa Toler we believe that Susannah Toler was the daughter of William Toler and Elizabeth Harvey who married Mark Patterson Duncan. We conclude that Susannah was the daughter of William Toler and Elizabeth Harvey based on that naming pattern. 2. Levicy or Vina Toler was born about 1822 in Virginia. Levicy or Vina Toler married William GRIMMETT about 1837 in Logan County, Virginia. William Grimmett and Levicy Toler had a large family in Logan County. William Grimmett was the son of John GRIMMETT and Delilah. 3. Rebecca A Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. Rebecca Henry BELCHER about 1846 in Logan County, Virginia. We believe that Henry was the son of John Belcher and Jane Nuchols. They to raised a large family in Logan County, Virginia. 4. Julia or Juliet Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. Julia married Andrew Browning about 1848 in Logan County, Virginia. Andrew Browning was the son of William Browning and Rebecca Toler. They raised a large family in Logan County. Note: Note: Andrew is NOT the Anderson Browning son of Simeon Browning and Mary Browning of Buffalo Creek, Logan County, West Virginia! We are looking for descendants or information regarding the parents of these Toler Ladies. Also we are trying to find Toler men or other Toler ladies that have unidentified parents who lived in the Logan County or Wyoming County area. We have information on their descendants and are trying to fill in the gaps on these Toler ladies. Please contact Jim Burgess if you have an interest! Thanks Jim Burgess ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

The ''Johnson" arrived 17 July 1847 at Port Oxford,Maryland with 1747 prisoners aboard.Some Logan co. names here. Allen,James- Rbuthnot,James- Beverly, William- Bowe,John- Boy,Robert-Brandy,John-Buchanan,Alexander- Burnett,John- Cameron,Donald- Cameron,Duncan-Campbell,Alexander- Campbell,Saunders- Carnegie,Alexander- Chambers,William- Chapman,James- Caperton,Thomas- Connell,William- Cowen,William-Cragin,Robert- Cumming,Jane- Mcquerrist,Roderick- McQuinn, Flora-Marr,Alexander- Mean, John- Melvil, William- Morgan, Patrick- Mill, James- Murdock,William- Murray, Patrick- Nesmith,John- Newton, John- Norvil, Adam- Davidson, Charles- Davis, Robert- Duff, John- Erwin, James- Ferguson, Dunkan- Ferguson,Patrick- Foster John- Gardener,Peter- Grant, Allen- Grant, Angus- Grant, John- Gray, John- Hamilton,Robert- Hector,John- Herring, Jane- Irwin, George- King, James- McAnnis,Archi- McClean, Hugh- McCloud,Alexander- McCloud, Angus- Pinmurray,Alice- Robertson, Nalle- Ross, Thomas- Ruddick, Peter- Russell,David- Shaw,Margeret- Shaw,Mary- Simpson, James- Smith Alexander- Steel, Michael- Stretton, James- Stuart, William- McLaughton,Peter- McCown,William- McCoy,Peter- McCullum,Gilbert- McDaniel, Angus- McDaniel,John- McDonald, John- McDuff, James-McFerrist, Roderick- McGellis, Daniel- McGregor, Dunkan- McGregor, John- McIntire, Archie- McIntire, Donald- McIntosh, Duncan- McKinsey, Ann- McKown, Kate- McNab, John- McQuerrest,John- Suter, John- Sutherland, Adam- Taylor, John- Taylor,Saunders- Walker, Saunders- Wrair, John- Watson, George- Watt, John- Wise,Minian- Yeats, William Shelby

Kelly, I do not know for sure who the parents of Richard Toler are but are you sure he did not marry Chaney Fields first. Rebecca and Chaney may have been sisters. Richard Toler is next door to Lucy Fields age 57 born in Tennessee in the Perry County, Kentucky census. Chana Lewis age 35 born in Virginia has Harrison Fields age 19, James Fields age 12, John Toler age 10, Nancy A. Lewis age 3 and Lucinda Lewis 4/12 months in her household in Perry County, Kentucky. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Shenton [mailto:ditto@spii.net] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:45 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Richard Maddison Toler Does anyone have any information on a Richard Maddison Toler who was born in 1824 in Logan County? How do I get a birth certificate for him? I don't know his parents names. All I have is his 1st Wife Mary Chaney and then 2nd Wife Rebecca Fields and their kids, grandchildren, and so on. Need info on his parents. Kelly Shenton ditto@spii.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Kelly, I have a very large file on this Richard Toler. Just have not had time to plow through it, working on David Toler and Susanna. Doug Toler and I are starting a DNA project on the Toler family. This is EXACTLY why we need a DNA project. It should be posted in the next few days. Need some time to oganize this information. thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 4:45 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Richard Maddison Toler Kelly, I do not know for sure who the parents of Richard Toler are but are you sure he did not marry Chaney Fields first. Rebecca and Chaney may have been sisters. Richard Toler is next door to Lucy Fields age 57 born in Tennessee in the Perry County, Kentucky census. Chana Lewis age 35 born in Virginia has Harrison Fields age 19, James Fields age 12, John Toler age 10, Nancy A. Lewis age 3 and Lucinda Lewis 4/12 months in her household in Perry County, Kentucky. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Kelly Shenton [mailto:ditto@spii.net] Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:45 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Richard Maddison Toler Does anyone have any information on a Richard Maddison Toler who was born in 1824 in Logan County? How do I get a birth certificate for him? I don't know his parents names. All I have is his 1st Wife Mary Chaney and then 2nd Wife Rebecca Fields and their kids, grandchildren, and so on. Need info on his parents. Kelly Shenton ditto@spii.net ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Does anyone have any information on a Richard Maddison Toler who was born in 1824 in Logan County? How do I get a birth certificate for him? I don't know his parents names. All I have is his 1st Wife Mary Chaney and then 2nd Wife Rebecca Fields and their kids, grandchildren, and so on. Need info on his parents. Kelly Shenton ditto@spii.net

I show the children from William Toler's first marriage as William Jr. born 1815 married Margret Unk and Susannah Toler born 1812 married Eli Cannady. Rick > > From: "Joel Hager" <joel.hager@us.army.mil> > Date: 2006/06/25 Sun PM 09:53:02 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler parents in Logan County or Wyoming County > > Jim, > > Just some thoughts. Could Susannah Toler have been a Duncan d/o Mark > Patterson and Elizabeth (Harvey) Duncan and married a Toler first and Elijah > Canada second or took the name Toler after her mother remarried? That would > help to explain the first child being named Marcus Patterson Canada and > first daughter named Elizabeth Canada. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:51 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler parents in > Logan County or Wyoming County > > Toler Ladies (Unknown Parents) > > Please accept my apologies if you receive this email several times! > > We have four Toler ladies that have unidentified parents. We are looking > for descendants who may be able to document their parents and provide other > information on descendants! > > These ladies must be daughters of Zachariah Toler, Elisha Toler and William > Toler! Can you > help us identify their parents? > > 1. Susannah Toler was born about 1812 in Virginia. Susannah Toler > married > Elijah Canada 13 Sep 1833 in Pike County, Kentucky. Elijah Canada was born > about 1798 in North Carolina. > Note: They named a son Marcus Patterson Toler 4 Mar 1858 in Wyoming County, > West Virginia. Thanks to Vanessa Toler we believe that Susannah Toler was > the daughter of William Toler and Elizabeth Harvey who married Mark > Patterson Duncan. We conclude that Susannah was the daughter of William > Toler and Elizabeth Harvey based on that naming pattern. > > 2. Levicy or Vina Toler was born about 1822 in Virginia. Levicy or > Vina > Toler married William GRIMMETT about 1837 in Logan County, Virginia. > William Grimmett and Levicy Toler had a large family in Logan County. > William Grimmett was the son of John GRIMMETT and Delilah. > > 3. Rebecca A Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. > Rebecca > Henry BELCHER about 1846 in Logan County, Virginia. We believe that > Henry was the son of John Belcher and Jane Nuchols. They to raised a large > family in Logan County, Virginia. > > 4. Julia or Juliet Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. > Julia married Andrew Browning about 1848 in Logan County, Virginia. Andrew > Browning was the son of William Browning and Rebecca Toler. They raised a > large family in Logan County. > > Note: Note: Andrew is NOT the Anderson Browning son of Simeon Browning and > Mary Browning of Buffalo Creek, Logan County, West Virginia! > > We are looking for descendants or information regarding the parents of > these Toler > Ladies. > > Also we are trying to find Toler men or other Toler ladies that have > unidentified parents > who lived in the Logan County or Wyoming County area. > > We have information on their descendants and are trying to fill in the > gaps on these > Toler ladies. > > Please contact Jim Burgess if you have an interest! > > Thanks > > Jim Burgess > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Just wondering how the reunion turned out? I hope the weather cooperated. I do wish we could have been there. How many cousins were there? Evelyn Wilburn Sukey

Jim, Just some thoughts. Could Susannah Toler have been a Duncan d/o Mark Patterson and Elizabeth (Harvey) Duncan and married a Toler first and Elijah Canada second or took the name Toler after her mother remarried? That would help to explain the first child being named Marcus Patterson Canada and first daughter named Elizabeth Canada. Joel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:51 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler parents in Logan County or Wyoming County Toler Ladies (Unknown Parents) Please accept my apologies if you receive this email several times! We have four Toler ladies that have unidentified parents. We are looking for descendants who may be able to document their parents and provide other information on descendants! These ladies must be daughters of Zachariah Toler, Elisha Toler and William Toler! Can you help us identify their parents? 1. Susannah Toler was born about 1812 in Virginia. Susannah Toler married Elijah Canada 13 Sep 1833 in Pike County, Kentucky. Elijah Canada was born about 1798 in North Carolina. Note: They named a son Marcus Patterson Toler 4 Mar 1858 in Wyoming County, West Virginia. Thanks to Vanessa Toler we believe that Susannah Toler was the daughter of William Toler and Elizabeth Harvey who married Mark Patterson Duncan. We conclude that Susannah was the daughter of William Toler and Elizabeth Harvey based on that naming pattern. 2. Levicy or Vina Toler was born about 1822 in Virginia. Levicy or Vina Toler married William GRIMMETT about 1837 in Logan County, Virginia. William Grimmett and Levicy Toler had a large family in Logan County. William Grimmett was the son of John GRIMMETT and Delilah. 3. Rebecca A Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. Rebecca Henry BELCHER about 1846 in Logan County, Virginia. We believe that Henry was the son of John Belcher and Jane Nuchols. They to raised a large family in Logan County, Virginia. 4. Julia or Juliet Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. Julia married Andrew Browning about 1848 in Logan County, Virginia. Andrew Browning was the son of William Browning and Rebecca Toler. They raised a large family in Logan County. Note: Note: Andrew is NOT the Anderson Browning son of Simeon Browning and Mary Browning of Buffalo Creek, Logan County, West Virginia! We are looking for descendants or information regarding the parents of these Toler Ladies. Also we are trying to find Toler men or other Toler ladies that have unidentified parents who lived in the Logan County or Wyoming County area. We have information on their descendants and are trying to fill in the gaps on these Toler ladies. Please contact Jim Burgess if you have an interest! Thanks Jim Burgess ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

>>He could be genetically predisposed to cardiac problems, a blood disorder, >>cancer, etc.<< Evelyn, You are right....cardiac problems and alcoholism. Several family members had problems with these....big-time. I really appreciate everyone's feed back on this. My daughter also thinks it's a good idea. I don't think that I will mention it to my son unless I have some success. Thanks, Carole

This is a post in the 2003 Jackson Co., Wv mailing list archives. Fascinating. At the bottom of this page is Mike's web page address. Which I just entered into favorites in my puter. Gracie http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/W/WVJACKSO+2003+9411427234+F

Also, think of the health history information he might value? We all need to have this info, our genes tell our future. He could be genetically predisposed to cardiac problems, a blood disorder, cancer, etc. Evelyn -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:08 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] SecretsOTS I agree totally with Sue. It would be terrible if the son could never find out that his father tried to find him. If your daughter wants to find her half-bro, post that also. He might be looking himself. Secrets hurt people most of the time. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "suebod" <suebod@tampabay.rr.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 12:35 AM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Secrets > I say post it on the parents seeking siblings and siblings seeking parents > web pages. That way the info is there if he comes looking, and you've done > your part. > > That was kind of your husband. I'd do everything possible to grant his request. > > Sue > > > At 05:57 PM 6/20/06 -0700, you wrote: > >LuAnne, > > > >I certainly agree with you on living people or living children. > > > >My late husband wanted me to find the mother of his son that he denied at > >birth. He lived with great remorse for the rest of his life that he had > >been such a jerk. I was never able to find her or the boy then...20 years > >ago. Now I might be able to but I don't know what she told the > >boy...maybe his father "died at war" or something. Maybe he thought her > >first husband was his father. > > > >My daughter really wants me to keep trying to reach her half brother but > >my son thinks we should let sleeping dogs lie. Even if I could find his > >mother I would talk to her about it but not to the 45 yr old man without > >her OK. To do so would be very, very wrong. > > > >I have his birth certificate under both of his parents' names. > > > >Carole > > > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ______________________________

Thanks everyone. Just needed some conformation about this one. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harts High School" <hartshighschool@yahoo.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 10:32 PM Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] John F. Toney > May have more on my other FTM program. This one is brief, and Old Poindexter Toney was supposed to have been in the Revolutionary War. > When it comes to the Hagers, Janet is an expert, no doubt about it..and Joel would come in 2nd place (Had to give him some credit). > > Descendants of Mary Ferguson > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. MARY1 FERGUSON She married JOHN F. TONEY. > > Child of MARY FERGUSON and JOHN TONEY is: > 2. i. MARY2 TONEY, b. 1827; d. February 19, 1887, Ramage, Boone County, WV. > > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. MARY2 TONEY (MARY1 FERGUSON) was born 1827, and died February 19, 1887 in Ramage, Boone County, WV. She married FRY LUCAS, son of JOHN LUCAS and MARY FRY. He was born Abt. 1821 in Cabell County, VA, and died Abt. 1900. > > More About MARY TONEY: > Burial: February 1887, WV > > More About FRY LUCAS: > Burial: Abt. 1900 > > Children of MARY TONEY and FRY LUCAS are: > i. BURWELL3 LUCAS, b. August 29, 1869; d. November 13, 1944; m. (1) BETTY BALL; m. (2) MAMIE NEAL. > > More About BURWELL LUCAS: > Burial: November 1944 > > ii. LOUISA LUCAS, m. BING DENT. > > > > > Joel Hager <joel.hager@us.army.mil> wrote: > > Gracie, > > Mahala Toney was the daughter of John F. and Mary (Ferguson) Toney. John F. > Toney was married or living with Mary 'Polly' Hager prior to the 1850 > census. As I understand from Janet Hager the relationship was very short. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 9:38 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] John F. Toney > > I am finding conflicting information about the marriage of John F. Toney > and my gggrand aunt, Polly Mary Hager. One listing says that there was a > daughter, > Mahala who married Alfred Hager. Other researcher says that there were no > children from this marriage. > > Also is it correct that his father, Carey served in the Rev > War? > > When there are no children, I don't usually list much for the > husband/wife that married one of my ancestors. Have enough trouble keeping > up with the ones that are blood ancestors. (smiling) > > Gracie > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/harts06/project2006.html > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Thanks for the reply,Kathy; Anthony Lawson died of colera I hear.I dont know what was on his grave stone. He was a vey wealthy man, owning 30 000 acres of land where Williamson now stands. Shelby