Hi Gloria, I just went to the site and I can't figure out how to access the records either. It does say 'free' for today. I hope it isn't like Ancestry's 'free' 14 day access policy. Mayby someone who is more awake than I am right now can figure it out. lol Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <gloryee@sbcglobal.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Fw: [SELLERS] FW: Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 and Free Access to Origins! > Gracie, I tried to get to this site- they won't let me in without a credit > card. How do I enter on the free time?? Or is it only free for the day to > subscribers? > Thank you, > Gloria Damron~ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gracie" <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:32 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Fw: [SELLERS] FW: Origins Network News: Charles I > Chancery Index 1625-49 and Free Access to Origins! > > > > This came to me through another surname mailing address. > > Gracie > > > > Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 and Free Access to > > Origins! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 available on > > British > > > Origins > > > > > > * FREE ACCESS FOR TO THE ORIGINS NETWORK FOR 24 HOURS ON THE 4th JULY - > > > INDEPENDENCE DAY OFFER!! > > > > > > *Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 > > > > > > *Family History Article: Inheritance Disputes and Chancery Proceedings > > > (Sherry Irvine, CG, FSA Scot) > > > > > > ************************************************************ > > > > > > > > > * INDEPENDENCE DAY OFFER- Free Access!: > > > > > > The Origins Network is offering free access to both British and Irish > > > Origins on the 4th July to celebrate US Independence Day. Free access > will > > > begin at 00.00GMT and will run until 08.00GMT on the 5th July 2006. In > > order > > > to access, simply go to www.originsnetwork.com and click on the link to > > sign > > > up or login > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************ > > > > > > *Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 > > > > > > This dataset is an index to all 82,000 cases tried in the Court of > > Chancery > > > during the reign of Charles I, i.e. between 1625 and 1649. Chancery > > records > > > are of particular value to family historians, because they often reveal > > > personal, business and family relationships in more detail than almost > any > > > other source. Chancery records are a particularly important source of > > > information for descendants of early migrants to North America. > > > > > > The index itself identifies only the surnames of the plaintiff and the > > > defendant, and gives the reference for the source documents held at The > > > National Archives. Abstracts of the records can be ordered online at a > > cost > > > of 16, which will allow you to determine how valuable the case records > are > > > likely to be to you. > > > > > > > > > For full details about this dataset, please visit: > > > www.originsnetwork.com/help/popup-aboutbo-charles2.htm > > > > > > > > > To access these new records, please visit www.originsnetwork.com and > login > > > to your account, or visit the sign up page to choose a subscription. > > > > > > ******************************************************************* > > > Inheritance Disputes and Chancery Proceedings > > > > > > By Sherry Irvine, CG, FSA Scot > > > > > > In 2005 Origins Network added the Inheritance Disputes Index to the > > datasets > > > within British Origins (www.britishorigins.com). Now another finding aid > > for > > > records of the Court of Chancery is available, an index to Chancery > > > Proceedings, Charles I. Both were prepared by Peter Coldham. > > > > > > Not so many years ago, before access to Internet databases, genealogists > > > came to the more difficult resources later, usually a point in time when > > > research experience and a knotty problem came together. Now, with online > > > databases, we have access to records such as Chancery Proceedings at any > > > time, sometimes before we understand what they are. > > > > > > Add to Your Knowledge > > > > > > Cases in the Court of Chancery, if they proceeded beyond the opening > > stages > > > to the gathering of evidence and a judgment, generated a variety of > > records. > > > It is useful to know which of these records is referenced by the British > > > Origins indexes and where they come in the court process. > > > > > > In addition, the various documents associated with a case are in > different > > > TNA classes, some of these classes have overlapping dates and the name > or > > > title of individual cases could change along the way. Knowing how the > > > records came to be collected and stored is useful when following through > > the > > > documents associated with a case. > > > > > > I suggest you read the background information accompanying the British > > > Origins indexes and then move on to Family Feuds, An Introduction to > > > Chancery Proceedings (Susan Moore, FFHS Publications, 2003) and the free > > > guides to Chancery records found at the National Archives (TNA) website. > > It > > > is also worthwhile to check the section on the Court of Chancery in > > > Ancestral Trails (Mark Herber, 2005). > > > > > > Some Essential Background > > > > > > The Court of Chancery was one of several equity courts that had their > > > beginnings before 1500, responding to the need for common folk to seek > > > redress for perceived injustices. Equity means what the word suggests, > > > finding a fair solution. Of first significance to genealogists is the > > fact > > > that, from the beginning, everything was recorded in English. Secondly, > > > equity courts were unlike other courts; they were not based on common > law > > > and were not courts where action was initiated by the Crown. > > > > > > A plaintiff initiated a case through a bill of complaint or petition. > The > > > defendant submitted an answer and then evidence was collected from > > witnesses > > > prior to trial by statements known as depositions; people did not have > to > > > appear in person at a trial. Town depositions were made in London and > > > country depositions at courts elsewhere. If there was a final conclusion > > > this would be in the form of decrees or written opinions. There are > > > therefore, three types of materials, the opening stages or proceedings > > > (complaints and answers and any rejoinders), followed by the gathered > > > evidence and finally the decision of the court. > > > > > > The Origins Network Indexes > > > > > > The value of Chancery records has long been recognized but manual > indexers > > > faced problems such as the intensive labor required to prepare them. > Most > > > finding aids were indexed by one name only, a plaintiff; to find the > names > > > of listed defendants necessitated reading through the index. > > > > > > Using the British Origins indexes (www.britishorigins.com) it is > possible > > to > > > search through names of plaintiffs and defendants easily, using a single > > > surname or two together. In total there are nearly 110,000 cases > > referenced > > > in these two databases; 26,000 inheritance disputes between 1574 and > 1714 > > > and all 82,000 Chancery cases between 1625 and 1649. > > > > > > Results are displayed in tabular fashion. For the Inheritance Disputes > > Index > > > this includes name of the deceased person (the testator), the location > > > (county and usually place as well), case description expressed as one > name > > > for each of the opposing sides in the case (e.g., Smith vs Jones), date > > the > > > proceedings began, and the TNA reference. > > > > > > The index to C2/Charles I provides the surnames of the plaintiff and > > > defendant and one or more references, depending on how many documents > are > > > involved. Most cases have one or two, and a very few have four or more. > > > > > > Distance Can Be a Problem > > > > > > I live in Canada and many of you reading this are also outside the UK or > > > certainly outside of London. All of us who use these indexes and find a > > > result are interested in taking research further. There are two parts to > > > this, getting more details about cases identified in the Origins > databases > > > and exploring other Chancery records. > > > > > > The Origins Network offers an abstract service to take care of the first > > > point; further information about this can be found in the database > > > information. It is worth pointing out that those of you researching > common > > > names face a greater challenge but the abstract service provides further > > > details to help you sort out multiple results to a search. > > > > > > For exploring other cases in Chancery not covered by the British Origins > > > resources visit the TNA website. The Equity Pleadings Database covers > some > > > of class C6 and the main online catalogue incorporates the names of > first > > > plaintiff and first defendant from several other classes within Chancery > > > records. Less accessible are printed indexes and calendars; some may be > in > > a > > > library near you or accessible through LDS family history centres. Refer > > to > > > the publications mentioned earlier in this article as well as the > > > appropriate online library catalogue. > > > > > > Conclusion > > > > > > The overall date range spanned by these two indexes to Chancery > > proceedings > > > is 1574 to 1714. Resources can be scarce in this time period and the > > > potential value of the records is high. Combine these reasons with a > > readily > > > accessible finding aid and there is no doubt that the indexes should be > > > consulted. > > > > > > ****************************************************************** > > > > > > If you have any questions about our services and access, please visit > > > http://www.originsnetwork.com or get in touch by email at > > help@origins.net. > > > > > > We do receive a large volume of inquiries, so please consult the help > > pages > > > on the web site first with any questions. > > > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe or edit your email, please go to: > > > http://www.originsnetwork.com/MailList/MailList.aspx and submit your > > > details. > > > > > > Jane Hewitt > > > > > > Origins Network > > > http://www.originsnetwork.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. 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Hi Evelyn, Sorry this is so long in reply...I just returned home from vacation... The reunion was a big success! Many new and familiar faces there, and lots of great food. And as expected, the kids playing in the creek. lol. Barbara Mullins Kral, cooridinator, had t-shirts for everyone, as she had made 250, plus she had lots of door prizes for everyone, also. Some heads of families received memory quilts of thier family. All in all, it was a great reunion. I would guesstimate, about 125 people came and went through out the whole day. I was not there long, as my hubby planned to go to another event in the eve, so we left early.... Thanks for inquiring. Sandi --- Evelyn Sukey <elsukey@glwb.net> wrote: > Just wondering how the reunion turned out? I hope > the weather cooperated. I > do wish we could have been there. How many cousins > were there? > > Evelyn Wilburn Sukey > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Gracie, I tried to get to this site- they won't let me in without a credit card. How do I enter on the free time?? Or is it only free for the day to subscribers? Thank you, Gloria Damron~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "gracie" <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 12:32 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Fw: [SELLERS] FW: Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 and Free Access to Origins! > This came to me through another surname mailing address. > Gracie > > Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 and Free Access to > Origins! > > > > > > > > Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 available on > British > > Origins > > > > * FREE ACCESS FOR TO THE ORIGINS NETWORK FOR 24 HOURS ON THE 4th JULY - > > INDEPENDENCE DAY OFFER!! > > > > *Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 > > > > *Family History Article: Inheritance Disputes and Chancery Proceedings > > (Sherry Irvine, CG, FSA Scot) > > > > ************************************************************ > > > > > > * INDEPENDENCE DAY OFFER- Free Access!: > > > > The Origins Network is offering free access to both British and Irish > > Origins on the 4th July to celebrate US Independence Day. Free access will > > begin at 00.00GMT and will run until 08.00GMT on the 5th July 2006. In > order > > to access, simply go to www.originsnetwork.com and click on the link to > sign > > up or login > > > > > > ************************************************************ > > > > *Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 > > > > This dataset is an index to all 82,000 cases tried in the Court of > Chancery > > during the reign of Charles I, i.e. between 1625 and 1649. Chancery > records > > are of particular value to family historians, because they often reveal > > personal, business and family relationships in more detail than almost any > > other source. Chancery records are a particularly important source of > > information for descendants of early migrants to North America. > > > > The index itself identifies only the surnames of the plaintiff and the > > defendant, and gives the reference for the source documents held at The > > National Archives. Abstracts of the records can be ordered online at a > cost > > of 16, which will allow you to determine how valuable the case records are > > likely to be to you. > > > > > > For full details about this dataset, please visit: > > www.originsnetwork.com/help/popup-aboutbo-charles2.htm > > > > > > To access these new records, please visit www.originsnetwork.com and login > > to your account, or visit the sign up page to choose a subscription. > > > > ******************************************************************* > > Inheritance Disputes and Chancery Proceedings > > > > By Sherry Irvine, CG, FSA Scot > > > > In 2005 Origins Network added the Inheritance Disputes Index to the > datasets > > within British Origins (www.britishorigins.com). Now another finding aid > for > > records of the Court of Chancery is available, an index to Chancery > > Proceedings, Charles I. Both were prepared by Peter Coldham. > > > > Not so many years ago, before access to Internet databases, genealogists > > came to the more difficult resources later, usually a point in time when > > research experience and a knotty problem came together. Now, with online > > databases, we have access to records such as Chancery Proceedings at any > > time, sometimes before we understand what they are. > > > > Add to Your Knowledge > > > > Cases in the Court of Chancery, if they proceeded beyond the opening > stages > > to the gathering of evidence and a judgment, generated a variety of > records. > > It is useful to know which of these records is referenced by the British > > Origins indexes and where they come in the court process. > > > > In addition, the various documents associated with a case are in different > > TNA classes, some of these classes have overlapping dates and the name or > > title of individual cases could change along the way. Knowing how the > > records came to be collected and stored is useful when following through > the > > documents associated with a case. > > > > I suggest you read the background information accompanying the British > > Origins indexes and then move on to Family Feuds, An Introduction to > > Chancery Proceedings (Susan Moore, FFHS Publications, 2003) and the free > > guides to Chancery records found at the National Archives (TNA) website. > It > > is also worthwhile to check the section on the Court of Chancery in > > Ancestral Trails (Mark Herber, 2005). > > > > Some Essential Background > > > > The Court of Chancery was one of several equity courts that had their > > beginnings before 1500, responding to the need for common folk to seek > > redress for perceived injustices. Equity means what the word suggests, > > finding a fair solution. Of first significance to genealogists is the > fact > > that, from the beginning, everything was recorded in English. Secondly, > > equity courts were unlike other courts; they were not based on common law > > and were not courts where action was initiated by the Crown. > > > > A plaintiff initiated a case through a bill of complaint or petition. The > > defendant submitted an answer and then evidence was collected from > witnesses > > prior to trial by statements known as depositions; people did not have to > > appear in person at a trial. Town depositions were made in London and > > country depositions at courts elsewhere. If there was a final conclusion > > this would be in the form of decrees or written opinions. There are > > therefore, three types of materials, the opening stages or proceedings > > (complaints and answers and any rejoinders), followed by the gathered > > evidence and finally the decision of the court. > > > > The Origins Network Indexes > > > > The value of Chancery records has long been recognized but manual indexers > > faced problems such as the intensive labor required to prepare them. Most > > finding aids were indexed by one name only, a plaintiff; to find the names > > of listed defendants necessitated reading through the index. > > > > Using the British Origins indexes (www.britishorigins.com) it is possible > to > > search through names of plaintiffs and defendants easily, using a single > > surname or two together. In total there are nearly 110,000 cases > referenced > > in these two databases; 26,000 inheritance disputes between 1574 and 1714 > > and all 82,000 Chancery cases between 1625 and 1649. > > > > Results are displayed in tabular fashion. For the Inheritance Disputes > Index > > this includes name of the deceased person (the testator), the location > > (county and usually place as well), case description expressed as one name > > for each of the opposing sides in the case (e.g., Smith vs Jones), date > the > > proceedings began, and the TNA reference. > > > > The index to C2/Charles I provides the surnames of the plaintiff and > > defendant and one or more references, depending on how many documents are > > involved. Most cases have one or two, and a very few have four or more. > > > > Distance Can Be a Problem > > > > I live in Canada and many of you reading this are also outside the UK or > > certainly outside of London. All of us who use these indexes and find a > > result are interested in taking research further. There are two parts to > > this, getting more details about cases identified in the Origins databases > > and exploring other Chancery records. > > > > The Origins Network offers an abstract service to take care of the first > > point; further information about this can be found in the database > > information. It is worth pointing out that those of you researching common > > names face a greater challenge but the abstract service provides further > > details to help you sort out multiple results to a search. > > > > For exploring other cases in Chancery not covered by the British Origins > > resources visit the TNA website. The Equity Pleadings Database covers some > > of class C6 and the main online catalogue incorporates the names of first > > plaintiff and first defendant from several other classes within Chancery > > records. Less accessible are printed indexes and calendars; some may be in > a > > library near you or accessible through LDS family history centres. Refer > to > > the publications mentioned earlier in this article as well as the > > appropriate online library catalogue. > > > > Conclusion > > > > The overall date range spanned by these two indexes to Chancery > proceedings > > is 1574 to 1714. Resources can be scarce in this time period and the > > potential value of the records is high. Combine these reasons with a > readily > > accessible finding aid and there is no doubt that the indexes should be > > consulted. > > > > ****************************************************************** > > > > If you have any questions about our services and access, please visit > > http://www.originsnetwork.com or get in touch by email at > help@origins.net. > > > > We do receive a large volume of inquiries, so please consult the help > pages > > on the web site first with any questions. > > > > If you wish to unsubscribe or edit your email, please go to: > > http://www.originsnetwork.com/MailList/MailList.aspx and submit your > > details. > > > > Jane Hewitt > > > > Origins Network > > http://www.originsnetwork.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Here's the obit.. Thurman Lucas ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Thurman Lucas OAKWOOD - Thurman W. Lucas, 83, Oakwood, died Wednesday, June 28, 2006. He was born May 10, 1923, in Gay, W.Va., the son of George and Ethel (Curry) Lucas. In 1946, he married Martha Lunsford, who died in 2003. He had been a coal miner in West Virginia, a member of United Mine Workers and a life member of VFW Post 3360. He was a U.S. Army veteran, serving in World War II. Surviving are a daughter, Hazel Henman, Defiance; two sons, Marvin and Clifford, rural Defiance; a brother, George, Niceville, Fla.; two sisters, Imogene of Akron and Margie, West Virginia; and seven grandchildren and six great-grandchildren. Also preceding him in death were a brother, Ernest; three sisters, Etta, Orpha and Vienna; two half brothers, Bill and Jim; and a half sister, Martha. He was cremated. Mast-Mock-Hoffman Funeral Home handled arrangements. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Atnvolsgirl@wmconnect.com [mailto:Atnvolsgirl@wmconnect.com] Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:11 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Thurman Lucas For those Lucas researchers in Logan County, I have received word that Thurman Lucas, son of George and Ethel Curry Lucas passed away in Ohio last week. Thurman's sister, Orpha was the second wife of Lafe Vance. If and when I can get my hands on an obit, I will pass it along. Anita McClung Fayette County, WV ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Ha ha Judi; I remember that coal miners tradition; It would be hard for a miner to work with a pant leg cut off.The coal dust would get in his shoe.My oldest son was born while I was working deep in a mine; when they finally got the news to me, it was all over with. Cuz Shelby

Dad drove a coal dump truck for Island Creek coal co.at Holden, and a policy among the men was to "IF" they could get there hands on a worker that's wife had a new baby the day of they would cut one of his pant legs off, no matter the season. Dad tried to keep it hush when we were born. Have a happy fourth of July all. Judi Clark-Stamper Indiana via Holden, W.Va.

Empty coal gondolas were backed up for miles on Spruce Fork,Wv. Little demand for coal caused the railroad to store their cars all the way from Sharples to Sovereign. One or two days per week was all Boone Co. Coal Corp worked. An employee,Bill Dingess, told his mine boss one morning he wanted a leave of absence to work in Kanawha Co.; He said: "I will be back when I can work out a suit of clothes and a pint of liquor",lol ! Shelby !

For those Lucas researchers in Logan County, I have received word that Thurman Lucas, son of George and Ethel Curry Lucas passed away in Ohio last week. Thurman's sister, Orpha was the second wife of Lafe Vance. If and when I can get my hands on an obit, I will pass it along. Anita McClung Fayette County, WV

Jim your entry got me to thinking.....Where is my home Cleveland or West Virginia? Missing the relatives, missing the mountains, missing running down the dirt road to Papa's house, missing the people of a common culture(my tribe/ our tribe), missing the creek, missing walking the rails of the B&O,missing sliding down the old slate dump on our backsides, missing the mystery of ancient wild hollers, the berries and the sweet wildflowers. Missing singing in church and the excitement of the singing conventions, witnessing the baptisims in the creek a spiritual moment I've never forgotten. Missing my mother's greens and cornbread and dad taking us kids to the sawmill or on an Easter egg hunt after church. What a blessing to have such a unique culture and a beautiful place to be from, even if I can't return. The general culture can never quite understand it all and I am at a loss to explain it although I give it my best shot. I appreciate where I live now. I haven't always, it kind of grew on me gradually. The people and the culture are different. There are advantages such employment, educational and cultural opportunities.It's interesting, challenging and the people, after you get to know them, are quite nice usually. Although.... the closeness is not there, not in the same way.Fact is, for better or for worse, I am from two cultures, they are remarkably different, and I like them both for different reasons. I do miss my mountains and I miss my people; people who can finish your sentences, people who value the same things you do.But I wonder if I could go back or if maybe I've changed too much. I'm thinking lately that maybe I have. Though tomorrow's another day, and I'll most likely be thinking of West Virginia again. Guess it'll be time for another trip right soon. Gail Burgess

I was amused to read the stories about the “Appalachian Wedding Parties” (my terminology). It reminded me of an event that occurred in my young and foolish life following the marriage of my “first love.” For convenience in telling the story and to protect the innocent , I will refer to her as Julie Cook who married Randall Walking. (Neither of these names is factual.) Following the publication of my book on Capt. Ralph Stewart, a neice of Julie discovered my name on the Internet and wrote me questioning me about my high school friendship with her favorite aunt. The following is a portion of my response to her: To set the stage for this second chapter, remember that I was that proverbial teenager very much in love. It did not matter that I was “not yet dry behind the ears,” so to speak. And suddenly in that summer of 1944 I learned that my relationship with your Aunt Julie was to be no more. We didn’t have a quarrel; there was no “Dear John letter;” it was just over. I was stunned and confused, but never bitter. I realized that Julie had not viewed our friendship the same way that I had. It was a common practice in the forties for a newly married couple to be subjected to a marriage “serenade.” This consisted of a ritual whereby a group of people of the community, usually teenagers, would organize and march noisily around the outside of the house where the bride and groom were staying until they were invited in and served some kind of treat. The marchers rang cowbells, yelled, beat on pans, blew horns and used any other noise-making device at their disposal in order to gain entry. In other words, this was a crude form of Appalachian wedding party. And so it was for Mr. and Mrs. Walking. When the word was passed Julie and Randall were to be serenaded, some of my sadistic friends challenged me to participate. Never being one to refuse a dare, I went along initially, but, when we approached the Cook home on -------- Branch, I chickened out; I simply could not go through with it. I could not bring myself to look casually at Julie simply as any other close friend who had gotten married. My friends went on to the party while I sat nearby in the dark forest that surrounded the house and watched and listened to the festivities until they returned. I don’t recall how long it was or even who the friends from Matheny were who were with me. I am sure someone told Julie that I was out there somewhere in the darkness; I wonder how she must have felt. I am pleased to say after more than three quarters of a century, I can still laugh at myself. Happy Fourth, STAN On Saturday, July 1, 2006, at 02:27 PM, BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: > The whole town celebrated when a couple married years ago; A > "shiveree" was > in order the first night; crowds would march around the house of the > newly > weds with cow bells,and other noise, until the groom came out with a > candy treat > for the celebrators, Sometimes it would get out of hand when a groom > was taken > to the creek and held under till he agreed to treat.One couple got a > surprise > when they retired for the night; Sheep bells were tied to the bed > springs,and > some kids got a big laugh in the next room ! > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

Hey, I remember that, one of my older sisters got "belled". Beulah McLemore 703-620-1389  home 703-405-5522  cell -----Original Message----- From: BurgessWV@aol.com [mailto:BurgessWV@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:27 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Wedding Night Celebrations.....OTS The whole town celebrated when a couple married years ago; A "shiveree" was in order the first night; crowds would march around the house of the newly weds with cow bells,and other noise, until the groom came out with a candy treat for the celebrators, Sometimes it would get out of hand when a groom was taken to the creek and held under till he agreed to treat.One couple got a surprise when they retired for the night; Sheep bells were tied to the bed springs,and some kids got a big laugh in the next room ! Shelby ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

This came to me through another surname mailing address. Gracie Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 and Free Access to Origins! > > > Origins Network News: Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 available on British > Origins > > * FREE ACCESS FOR TO THE ORIGINS NETWORK FOR 24 HOURS ON THE 4th JULY - > INDEPENDENCE DAY OFFER!! > > *Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 > > *Family History Article: Inheritance Disputes and Chancery Proceedings > (Sherry Irvine, CG, FSA Scot) > > ************************************************************ > > > * INDEPENDENCE DAY OFFER- Free Access!: > > The Origins Network is offering free access to both British and Irish > Origins on the 4th July to celebrate US Independence Day. Free access will > begin at 00.00GMT and will run until 08.00GMT on the 5th July 2006. In order > to access, simply go to www.originsnetwork.com and click on the link to sign > up or login > > > ************************************************************ > > *Charles I Chancery Index 1625-49 > > This dataset is an index to all 82,000 cases tried in the Court of Chancery > during the reign of Charles I, i.e. between 1625 and 1649. Chancery records > are of particular value to family historians, because they often reveal > personal, business and family relationships in more detail than almost any > other source. Chancery records are a particularly important source of > information for descendants of early migrants to North America. > > The index itself identifies only the surnames of the plaintiff and the > defendant, and gives the reference for the source documents held at The > National Archives. Abstracts of the records can be ordered online at a cost > of 16, which will allow you to determine how valuable the case records are > likely to be to you. > > > For full details about this dataset, please visit: > www.originsnetwork.com/help/popup-aboutbo-charles2.htm > > > To access these new records, please visit www.originsnetwork.com and login > to your account, or visit the sign up page to choose a subscription. > > ******************************************************************* > Inheritance Disputes and Chancery Proceedings > > By Sherry Irvine, CG, FSA Scot > > In 2005 Origins Network added the Inheritance Disputes Index to the datasets > within British Origins (www.britishorigins.com). Now another finding aid for > records of the Court of Chancery is available, an index to Chancery > Proceedings, Charles I. Both were prepared by Peter Coldham. > > Not so many years ago, before access to Internet databases, genealogists > came to the more difficult resources later, usually a point in time when > research experience and a knotty problem came together. Now, with online > databases, we have access to records such as Chancery Proceedings at any > time, sometimes before we understand what they are. > > Add to Your Knowledge > > Cases in the Court of Chancery, if they proceeded beyond the opening stages > to the gathering of evidence and a judgment, generated a variety of records. > It is useful to know which of these records is referenced by the British > Origins indexes and where they come in the court process. > > In addition, the various documents associated with a case are in different > TNA classes, some of these classes have overlapping dates and the name or > title of individual cases could change along the way. Knowing how the > records came to be collected and stored is useful when following through the > documents associated with a case. > > I suggest you read the background information accompanying the British > Origins indexes and then move on to Family Feuds, An Introduction to > Chancery Proceedings (Susan Moore, FFHS Publications, 2003) and the free > guides to Chancery records found at the National Archives (TNA) website. It > is also worthwhile to check the section on the Court of Chancery in > Ancestral Trails (Mark Herber, 2005). > > Some Essential Background > > The Court of Chancery was one of several equity courts that had their > beginnings before 1500, responding to the need for common folk to seek > redress for perceived injustices. Equity means what the word suggests, > finding a fair solution. Of first significance to genealogists is the fact > that, from the beginning, everything was recorded in English. Secondly, > equity courts were unlike other courts; they were not based on common law > and were not courts where action was initiated by the Crown. > > A plaintiff initiated a case through a bill of complaint or petition. The > defendant submitted an answer and then evidence was collected from witnesses > prior to trial by statements known as depositions; people did not have to > appear in person at a trial. Town depositions were made in London and > country depositions at courts elsewhere. If there was a final conclusion > this would be in the form of decrees or written opinions. There are > therefore, three types of materials, the opening stages or proceedings > (complaints and answers and any rejoinders), followed by the gathered > evidence and finally the decision of the court. > > The Origins Network Indexes > > The value of Chancery records has long been recognized but manual indexers > faced problems such as the intensive labor required to prepare them. Most > finding aids were indexed by one name only, a plaintiff; to find the names > of listed defendants necessitated reading through the index. > > Using the British Origins indexes (www.britishorigins.com) it is possible to > search through names of plaintiffs and defendants easily, using a single > surname or two together. In total there are nearly 110,000 cases referenced > in these two databases; 26,000 inheritance disputes between 1574 and 1714 > and all 82,000 Chancery cases between 1625 and 1649. > > Results are displayed in tabular fashion. For the Inheritance Disputes Index > this includes name of the deceased person (the testator), the location > (county and usually place as well), case description expressed as one name > for each of the opposing sides in the case (e.g., Smith vs Jones), date the > proceedings began, and the TNA reference. > > The index to C2/Charles I provides the surnames of the plaintiff and > defendant and one or more references, depending on how many documents are > involved. Most cases have one or two, and a very few have four or more. > > Distance Can Be a Problem > > I live in Canada and many of you reading this are also outside the UK or > certainly outside of London. All of us who use these indexes and find a > result are interested in taking research further. There are two parts to > this, getting more details about cases identified in the Origins databases > and exploring other Chancery records. > > The Origins Network offers an abstract service to take care of the first > point; further information about this can be found in the database > information. It is worth pointing out that those of you researching common > names face a greater challenge but the abstract service provides further > details to help you sort out multiple results to a search. > > For exploring other cases in Chancery not covered by the British Origins > resources visit the TNA website. The Equity Pleadings Database covers some > of class C6 and the main online catalogue incorporates the names of first > plaintiff and first defendant from several other classes within Chancery > records. Less accessible are printed indexes and calendars; some may be in a > library near you or accessible through LDS family history centres. Refer to > the publications mentioned earlier in this article as well as the > appropriate online library catalogue. > > Conclusion > > The overall date range spanned by these two indexes to Chancery proceedings > is 1574 to 1714. Resources can be scarce in this time period and the > potential value of the records is high. Combine these reasons with a readily > accessible finding aid and there is no doubt that the indexes should be > consulted. > > ****************************************************************** > > If you have any questions about our services and access, please visit > http://www.originsnetwork.com or get in touch by email at help@origins.net. > > We do receive a large volume of inquiries, so please consult the help pages > on the web site first with any questions. > > If you wish to unsubscribe or edit your email, please go to: > http://www.originsnetwork.com/MailList/MailList.aspx and submit your > details. > > Jane Hewitt > > Origins Network > http://www.originsnetwork.com > > > > >

The whole town celebrated when a couple married years ago; A "shiveree" was in order the first night; crowds would march around the house of the newly weds with cow bells,and other noise, until the groom came out with a candy treat for the celebrators, Sometimes it would get out of hand when a groom was taken to the creek and held under till he agreed to treat.One couple got a surprise when they retired for the night; Sheep bells were tied to the bed springs,and some kids got a big laugh in the next room ! Shelby

Anyone travelling to the Logan County courthouse this summer, please take a quick look in records 1887 - 1895 for my ancestor, Silas FANNIN who was born about 1822 in Kentucky. He performed marriages in Wayne County, WV 1870 - 1887. He and the youngest part of his family disappeared from Wayne County records after 1887. If you find any record of him, please let me know what is written. I am not able to check all the county records myself. You can email me at rhsayre@excite.com

You washed right in with the floods to Northern Va, loud and clear ----- Original Message ----- From: <judinclark@sbcglobal.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:37 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] test > test > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

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Jim, File Number 347 License issued August 26, 1833 by John D. Mims Clk. for marriage of Eli Kenada and Susanah Toler. Bond in names of Eli Kenada and Mark P. (part torn off), signed by Eli Canada and Mark P. Duncan. Letter requesting license, "as we are both of lawful age", dated August 24, 1833 and signed by Susannah Toler and Eli Keneada: attested by Mark P. Duncan and John Jr Fuller. Eli Canada and Susanah Toler married September 3 1833 by Ferrell Evans JPC. (On back of license) fee paid for recording certificate .24 P License $1.00 Typed the way that it was printed on the marriage bond. SOURCE: Marriage Bonds of Pike County, Kentucky 1822-1865 By Clyde Runyon Belfry, Kentucky K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Burgess" <jim@promobiz.biz> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:12 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Elijah Canada and Susannah Toler > > > I have some concerns about the marriage record of Elijah CANADA and > Susannah > Toler > being married on 15 Sep 1833 in Pike County, Kentucy and Mark P Kennedy > Mar > 1833 in > West Virginia. > > These records are usually pretty accurate. Yes I know there could be a > mistake. > > Certainly we may have a red flag. > > Do we have a descendant who is tracing this family? > > Jim Burgess > > > 1880 Wyoming County, West Virginia Census page 516C > Mart CANADA Self M Male W 42 VA Farmer VA VA > Margaret CANADA Wife M Female W 45 VA K. House VA VA > Eli CANADA Son S Male W 17 WV Laborer VA VA > John CANADA Son S Male W 14 WV Laborer VA VA > Henry CANADA Son S Male W 13 WV Laborer VA VA > Albert CANADA Son S Male W 11 WV Laborer VA VA > Polly CANADA Dau S Female W 5 WV VA VA > Mina CANADA Dau S Female W 3 WV VA VA > Cleophelous CANADA Brother S Male W 20 VA Laborer VA VA > Susan CANADA Mother W Female W 65 WV VA VA > Ballard CANADA Son S Male W 8 WV VA VA > > Source Information: > Census Place Clear Fork, Wyoming, West Virginia > Family History Library Film 1255416 > NA Film Number T9-1416 > Page Number 516C > > 1900 Wyoming County, West Virginia Clearfork District Dwelling 153 > KENNEDY, Mark P Male White Mar 1833 married 42 years > WV VA WV > KENNEDY, Margaret Female White May 1828 9 children 5 living > KENNEDY, Burnett A Male White May 1891 grandson > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joel Hager [mailto:joel.hager@us.army.mil] > Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 6:53 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler > parents in Logan County or Wyoming County > > > Jim, > > Just some thoughts. Could Susannah Toler have been a Duncan d/o Mark > Patterson and Elizabeth (Harvey) Duncan and married a Toler first and > Elijah > Canada second or took the name Toler after her mother remarried? That > would > help to explain the first child being named Marcus Patterson Canada and > first daughter named Elizabeth Canada. > > Joel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Burgess [mailto:jim@promobiz.biz] > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 4:51 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Toler Ladies and Men with unidentified Toler parents in > Logan County or Wyoming County > > Toler Ladies (Unknown Parents) > > Please accept my apologies if you receive this email several times! > > We have four Toler ladies that have unidentified parents. We are looking > for descendants who may be able to document their parents and provide > other > information on descendants! > > These ladies must be daughters of Zachariah Toler, Elisha Toler and > William > Toler! Can you > help us identify their parents? > > 1. Susannah Toler was born about 1812 in Virginia. Susannah Toler > married > Elijah Canada 13 Sep 1833 in Pike County, Kentucky. Elijah Canada was > born > about 1798 in North Carolina. > Note: They named a son Marcus Patterson Toler 4 Mar 1858 in Wyoming > County, > West Virginia. Thanks to Vanessa Toler we believe that Susannah Toler was > the daughter of William Toler and Elizabeth Harvey who married Mark > Patterson Duncan. We conclude that Susannah was the daughter of William > Toler and Elizabeth Harvey based on that naming pattern. > > 2. Levicy or Vina Toler was born about 1822 in Virginia. Levicy or > Vina > Toler married William GRIMMETT about 1837 in Logan County, Virginia. > William Grimmett and Levicy Toler had a large family in Logan County. > William Grimmett was the son of John GRIMMETT and Delilah. > > 3. Rebecca A Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. > Rebecca > Henry BELCHER about 1846 in Logan County, Virginia. We believe that > Henry was the son of John Belcher and Jane Nuchols. They to raised a > large > family in Logan County, Virginia. > > 4. Julia or Juliet Toler was born about 1830 in Logan County, Virginia. > Julia married Andrew Browning about 1848 in Logan County, Virginia. > Andrew > Browning was the son of William Browning and Rebecca Toler. They raised a > large family in Logan County. > > Note: Note: Andrew is NOT the Anderson Browning son of Simeon Browning and > Mary Browning of Buffalo Creek, Logan County, West Virginia! > > We are looking for descendants or information regarding the parents of > these Toler > Ladies. > > Also we are trying to find Toler men or other Toler ladies that have > unidentified parents > who lived in the Logan County or Wyoming County area. > > We have information on their descendants and are trying to fill in the > gaps on these > Toler ladies. > > Please contact Jim Burgess if you have an interest! > > Thanks > > Jim Burgess > > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. 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I am so proud to be from Logan County, West Virginia. I go back as often as I can. Maybe someday I'll go back for good. Yes, my hair is turning grey, but sometimes it takes awhile before we really understand what's most important. I do plan to check out Books Books Books in Buckhannon. I'm guessing they might have a big Appalachiana section. Ada Wilson Kent Worthington, Ohio

Dear Logan County Cousins, You may not want to read this note from a home sick West Virginian. If so just delete this email. I left West Virginia because I could not find a way to adequately provide for my family. I kept going in debt in West Virginia. I did not want to leave but felt that I had no choice. When I left Arizona I was transferred to Arizona. Met my wife here who really is a native. My wife loved West Virginia - we lived in West Virginia for about eight years. We moved to Arizona on June 1, 1978. It was 105 degrees. My furniture was so hot I could barely touch it as I moved my few earthly possessions in to the storage unit. I had more job offers than I could count. Taught school for 3 years. Had several job offers - started my own business April 15, 1979. Have been moderately successful. At that time no one in Arizona knew anyone else. Jobs and opportunities were every where. Phoenix was the 14 largest city in the United States. Today Phoenix just past Philidelphia as the fifth largest city. No one knowns anyone else. We all have brick walls around our yards. We pull our cars into our garages and never speak to our neighbors. I live close to a huge Intel plant. My neighbors are from Korea, Malaysia, India, Philippines and who knows where else. Our family history society is huge - about 10 societies probably 1500 active participants. It is rare to find people from West Virginia except for Sun City which is full of West Virginians who play golf, swim and party all the time. Stan Browning stopped by a few months ago - he was the first real West Virginian I had met in years. We had a great visit. In 1994 I paid $130,000 for my home. Today it is worth $380,000. When I left West Virginia I sold my house at Guyan Esates for $45,000 - When I was there in 2005 they said it was worth $90,000. Fact is my family has roots in Arizona. I have seven grand children that are my life. I would love to return to West Virginia but cannot leave those little people. We have some friends and cousins who live at Pecks Mill. We are planning to have them live with us in Arizona in the Winter and go to West Virginia in the summer. Snow birds I think Sandi and I are constantly trying to figure out how we can retire. We are tyed to the business we have had since 1979. When you come to Arizona give us a call Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Beulah McLemore [mailto:mclemoreb@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 9:42 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] FW: New York Times Article on West Virginia This was sent to me by a former Logan County W.Va. friend. I thought it needed to be shared. Good Article. > By IAN URBINA > Published: May 21, 2006 > WILLLIAMSTOWN, W. Va. * For three decades, Donna Briggs has worked at the > West Virginia Welcome Center here not far from the Ohio border, eagerly > greeting visitors entering her proud state but wistfully watching as much > of > the traffic flows the opposite way. > > "People leave because they have to, not because they want to," Ms. Briggs > said. "Looking over your shoulder and missing home is something West > Virginians know a lot about." > > Ranked behind South Dakota as having the second smallest population growth > of any state, according to 2005 Census Bureau estimates, West Virginia has > struggled to hold on to residents since the early 1950's, when layoffs in > the coal industry sent people elsewhere looking for work. > > For West Virginians, the tension between the economic push to leave and > the > emotional pull to return plays a central role in the state's cultural > identity. > > Just ask a West Virginian about these pressures and they will probably > tell > you a joke. Like the one that asks why the governor of West Virginia has > decided to resign. Answer: because Ford has called its workers back. Or > the > one about the capital of West Virginia being Akron because of all the West > Virginians who moved to Ohio in the 1950's to work in the tire plants. > > But the joke they are most likely to tell is the one in which St. Peter is > escorting a soul through heaven and is asked why there is a section that > is > walled-off. He replies: "Oh, that's where we put the West Virginians. > Otherwise they try to go back home on the weekend." > > The novelist Denise Giardina, a native West Virginian, said the obituary > page of The Charleston Gazette, the state's largest newspaper, was the > best > indicator of the ebb and flow. > > "I've lived a lot of places," Ms. Giardina said. "And I don't think I've > ever seen an obit page like the Gazette's with as many people who have > lived > outside their state their entire life but in death have come back home to > be > buried." > > For added perspective, listen to traditional West Virginia music. > > In July, Scott Hill, a music historian, will release the second volume of > "The Road Home," a compilation of songs about West Virginians longing to > return. > > "You see it in 'The West Virginia Hills,' which talks about leaving and > longing and is the official state song," Mr. Hill said. "You see it in > 'Take > Me Home, Country Roads,' which is our unofficial state song and is what we > sing after major football games." > > He added, "Coal and people have been our two biggest exports for a long > time, which has definitely shaped how we think of ourselves." > > Officials have tried to convince natives to stay and to attract newcomers > and investment. In 2001, the state set aside some $30 million to guarantee > full in-state tuition to students who met grade-point standards and other > testing requirements. > > Last year, Gov. Joe Manchin III began changing a slogan on some state > highway signs from "Wild and Wonderful" to "Open for Business." > > The state has attracted some retirees, but it has had less success in > holding on to its young people. > > West Virginia has the oldest median population of any state, and from 1990 > to 2000 it had a net loss of about 18,000 people in the 18 to 22 age > group. > > In every year since 1997, resident deaths have outnumbered births, > although > the population has stabilized around 1.8 million, down from a peak of 2 > million in 1950. > > Students in the state often joke that in West Virginia the three R's stand > for reading, 'riting and Route 77. The road is nicknamed Hillbilly Highway > because over the years it has delivered so many people to surrounding > states. > > "They say that brown-haired people cross the border going one way and > white-haired people cross it the other," said Bob Henry Baber, the mayor > of > Richwood. "But the truth is that most West Virginians of all ages come > back > continually because they don't feel right anywhere else." > > Richwood, a tiny town about 60 miles east of Charleston in south-central > West Virginia, is famous for its Ramp Feed, a traditional feast > celebrating > the arrival of spring and featuring dishes made with pungent leeks called > ramps that grow wild in the state. > > Each year, the festival draws nearly 1,000 visitors, mostly native West > Virginians returning from out of state, Mr. Baber said. > > After living in Pittsburgh for more than 35 years, Sylvia Ghaznavi, who > sells used books, returned to her hometown Buckhannon two years ago, > taking > her bookstore with her. > > With more than 200,000 books, her store * called Books Books Books * > almost > seems out of place in Buckhannon, a town of about 5,800. Her sales are a > quarter of what they were before the move, but Ms. Ghaznavi stands by her > decision. > > "I know this will sound odd to outsiders, but the air and the hills here > make me feel like I'm where I belong," she said, unfazed as a lone > customer > drifted toward the exit without buying anything. "I finally reached the > point where I was willing to pay whatever price that cost." > > A deeply rooted loyalty to West Virginia remains with those who move > outside > the state's boundaries. > > A couple of years ago, Abercrombie & Fitch came out with a shirt depicting > West Virginia as a haven for incest. The Charleston Gazette published an > op-ed article denouncing the company and defending the state. It was > written > by a native West Virginian living in Massachusetts. > > "It's like the rest of the country fell asleep during geography class," > said > Lionel Jordan, also known as 6'6 240, a popular rapper from Morgantown who > now lives in Atlanta. West Virginian pride is one of his themes. > > "I say I'm from West Virginia, and they all tell me they have a cousin in > Richmond," Mr. Jordan said. "No disrespect to Richmond, but I'm trying to > put my state back on the map." > > Cynthia Olson, who has lived in Vienna, Va., for 11 years, said she and > her > husband, Steve, were going to put their house up for sale. With jobs that > allow them to work from home, she and her husband plan to move to > Hillsboro, > W. Va., where they own a house on the Greenbrier River. > > Mrs. Olson is a native of Richwood. Of her home in Virginia, she said, > "You > take hiking trips here, and within an hour you are hitting cities and > pavement. In West Virginia you enter the wilderness and it goes on and on > for hundreds of miles." > > As for the jokes and negative images, Irene McKinney, West Virginia's poet > laureate, said the stereotypes led natives both to leave and to return. > > Many writers, she said, feel that to be taken seriously by publishers they > need to live outside the state. "But at the same time," she said, "these > stereotypes lead many West Virginians to be defensive about their state, > which contributes to an us-against-the-world sense of identity." > > "We're like hound dogs," she said. "We want to roam, but we feel guilty > and > lost if we stray." > > > Stephen L. Douglas > President > WVU Alumni Association > > Get connected to your Mountaineer > family! Join the WVU Alumni Association > today at http://alumni.wvu.edu. > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. 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Thanks for sharing the article. My roots run deep in WV and it is where I want to be. Peggy