I sure do agree with what you all have said about mining and Logan Co. I know that the MTR "mining" is in Logan, Boone, Kanawha, and Mercer Cos. Where else are they doing it? Is it being done in the northern WVa coal counties like Marion, Monongalia, Upshur, and others? What about Kentucky? Did you all read about the mining in Canada - safe rooms, etc. And what about the oxygen supply? Has the legislature done anything to require miners to be equipped with more oxygen? I saw my first black lung sickness and death as a young child. My uncle Dorsey Sutphin of Pond Fork suffered horribly. Mom was helping aunt Vida nurse him. I was sent back to Blair before he died. I still remember his labored breathing and aunt Vida's heartache. Yes, West Virginians need to stand up to the coal companies and the state legislature they own. Rick Stewart
The current mining practices are radically destroying everything about our way of life.They generally buy, burn, blowup and then throw some eerie looking chartreuse colored grass( reminds me of astro turf) on flattened mountains and then say it's "reclaimed".They send miners to theirs deaths w/ insufficient equipment to survive in the presence of a cave-in when the technology is readily available to insure survival for many. They won't waste their profits on protecting the life of a coal miner. When the coal is extracted, they're on their way to Fiji or to buy another Mercedes, and the real money goes back to the cities. Greed is a basic aspect of of human nature and left unchecked( which is the current situation in Southern WV), it will continue to destroy our towns and our culture. The impetus to change the situation has to come from deep within the residents of West Virginia.My hope is that they will unite and insist on safer deep mining practices with the use of current safety technology and improved working conditions within the mines. That they will protect their hometowns, their mountains and their way of life, by not allowing mountaintop removal operations. Nationally we can assist by voting in environmentally aware politicians who may help. We can visit and become aware of the reality of the current situation as picture is worth a thousand words.We can resolve to learn the facts. There is much we can and should do. However, the real impetus to protect southern West Virginia must come from the hearts of West Virginians who are ready to move into the future but are firmly resolved to keep the essence of their culture and their state intact. Gail Burgess
We all miss Hassel Browning, but he lived to be 90. Some younger lives are being snuffed out in coal mines by the callousness of our govmt mine laws being ignored. The companys are too eager to make a buck than have REAL safety laws enforced Thanks for your comment, Judi. Cuz; Shelby
And as many if not more die after working the mines as our own Hassel Browning whom we lost from Black Lung. I am sure that any of you who are from W.Va. and have male family members who worked the mines have lost someone to B.L. It is not a violent killer as the fires, crashes and disasters are but a horrible slow death. I watched four men in our family before my dad was taken by it. And I am sure I just did not know all of the ones it took. Off of my soap box now. Judi Jim Burgess wrote: >Dear Logan County Cousins and family, > >I hate to beat a dead horse - but the real story of Logan County and the >Mining Industry >is the huge number of our family that were killed in the mines. > >These death records document so many violent deaths in the coal mines or our >family. > >Really ticks me off that so many lives were destroyed. > > >Jim Burgess > > > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > >
Amen! Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: EKutn@aol.com [mailto:EKutn@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:53 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The real story of West Virginia Death Records The current mining practices are radically destroying everything about our way of life.They generally buy, burn, blowup and then throw some eerie looking chartreuse colored grass( reminds me of astro turf) on flattened mountains and then say it's "reclaimed".They send miners to theirs deaths w/ insufficient equipment to survive in the presence of a cave-in when the technology is readily available to insure survival for many. They won't waste their profits on protecting the life of a coal miner. When the coal is extracted, they're on their way to Fiji or to buy another Mercedes, and the real money goes back to the cities. Greed is a basic aspect of of human nature and left unchecked( which is the current situation in Southern WV), it will continue to destroy our towns and our culture. The impetus to change the situation has to come from deep within the residents of West Virginia.My hope is that they will unite and insist on safer deep mining practices with the use of current safety technology and improved working conditions within the mines. That they will protect their hometowns, their mountains and their way of life, by not allowing mountaintop removal operations. Nationally we can assist by voting in environmentally aware politicians who may help. We can visit and become aware of the reality of the current situation as picture is worth a thousand words.We can resolve to learn the facts. There is much we can and should do. However, the real impetus to protect southern West Virginia must come from the hearts of West Virginians who are ready to move into the future but are firmly resolved to keep the essence of their culture and their state intact. Gail Burgess ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx
Hello Jim; Too many miners are dying because of false safety reports by the Fireboss. It is his duty to check out unsafe conditions before the shift starts. Some cos use their production foremen as firebosses.This is unlawful. Also many miners die because they wont test roof conditions, This is done by punching a metal rod on the roof; if it has a solid sound the roof is ok; if it has a hollow or drummy sound, it means air has gotten above the roof and is in danger of falling. Recent findings on the air cannisters show they are not reliable enough for survival. The oxygen pellets are far from being useful. as what happened at the Sago mine. Cuz; Shelby
Thanks for that wonderful information about the Seventh Cavalry. By following one of the links on that page, I discovered the West Virginia Book Company and signed up to get e-mail notices from them about their publications. Here's the web address www.wvbookco.com <http://www.wvbookco.com/> Are there any other great websites I'm missing about Appalachia and books? Ada WILSON Kent, Worthington Ohio (Researching and not getting very far-- Wilson, Spence, Ellis, Steele, Music, Sesco, Duty in VA, WV, KY)
Dear Logan County Cousins and family, I hate to beat a dead horse - but the real story of Logan County and the Mining Industry is the huge number of our family that were killed in the mines. These death records document so many violent deaths in the coal mines or our family. Really ticks me off that so many lives were destroyed. Jim Burgess
I just got it myself today, Sue. Grin. More notice would be nice. Cuz Rick > > From: suebod <suebod@tampabay.rr.com> > Date: 2006/07/05 Wed PM 11:19:55 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] [Fwd: 7th WV Cavalry Descendants Reunion] > > Me also. Maybe with a little more notice next year? Hope it goes very well. > Please consider posting a report for us out of staters. We're with you in > spirit. > Sue in Tampa, FL > [and thanks; this is one of the few lists that shows my ggrandfather Henry > Webb and his brothers, and I have their service records] > > > At 11:10 PM 7/5/06 -0400, you wrote: > >Thanks,Rick; > > That would be wonderful to visit the Droop Mountain battlesite.That was the > >largest battle in West Virginia in the civil war.The Confederates lost to the > >Union army that day My grandfather(John Wilson Burgess) was in that unit. > >Wish > >I could go. > >Cuz; > >Shelby > > > > > >============================== > >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
I would sure like to go - and Pocahontas Co. in the fall. I have four or five gg grandfathers who were in the Seventh. Rick > > From: BurgessWV@aol.com > Date: 2006/07/05 Wed PM 11:10:13 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] [Fwd: 7th WV Cavalry Descendants Reunion] > > Thanks,Rick; > That would be wonderful to visit the Droop Mountain battlesite.That was the > largest battle in West Virginia in the civil war.The Confederates lost to the > Union army that day My grandfather(John Wilson Burgess) was in that unit. Wish > I could go. > Cuz; > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >
Me also. Maybe with a little more notice next year? Hope it goes very well. Please consider posting a report for us out of staters. We're with you in spirit. Sue in Tampa, FL [and thanks; this is one of the few lists that shows my ggrandfather Henry Webb and his brothers, and I have their service records] At 11:10 PM 7/5/06 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks,Rick; > That would be wonderful to visit the Droop Mountain battlesite.That was the >largest battle in West Virginia in the civil war.The Confederates lost to the >Union army that day My grandfather(John Wilson Burgess) was in that unit. >Wish >I could go. >Cuz; >Shelby > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
Thanks,Rick; That would be wonderful to visit the Droop Mountain battlesite.That was the largest battle in West Virginia in the civil war.The Confederates lost to the Union army that day My grandfather(John Wilson Burgess) was in that unit. Wish I could go. Cuz; Shelby
I hope it is all right to forward this info to the county lists. It was sent to me by Joetta Kuhn, a Boone Co. genealogist. Rick Stewart > > Steve Cunningham <steve@wvcivilwar.com> wrote: Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:36:04 -0700 > From: Steve Cunningham <steve@wvcivilwar.com> > Subject: 7th WV Cavalry Descendants Reunion > To: 7th WV Cavalry <wv7thcav@wvcivilwar.com> > > Hello and greetings to my fellow 7th West Virginia Cavalry descendants. I hope this email finds you doing well. > > I wanted to let you all know about a proposed event to be held this fall. On Saturday, October 14, 2006, as part of the Battle of Droop Mountain Reenactment weekend of events, we are tentatively planning a reunion of all 7th West Virginia Cavalry descendants. If enough folks express an interest in attending and participating, we will have various activities such as a brief history presentation about the regiment (by yours truly), a tour of the Droop Mountain Battlefield with author/historian Terry Lowry (author of Last Sleep: The Battle of Droop Mountain and expert on the battle) which will include viewing the area where the regiment made their assault up the mountain, and other presentations by descendants such as one by Bill Kiser who will share information on his ancestor, George Siders, who was wounded at Droop. > > Other activities during the day will include Civil War reenactors who will have living history camps and a battle reenactment during the afternoon. > > Please reply and let me know if you are interested in attending or if you have any questions. Pocahontas County is a beautiful place to visit in the fall and you will have the opportunity to meet and interact with other descendants of the 7th West Virginia Cavalry. I will provide more details as the date draws near. > > Looking forward to hearing from you, > Steve Cunningham > > > Droop Mountain Battlefield web site > http://www.droopmountainbattlefield.com/ > > > 7th West Virginia Cavalry web site > http://www.wvcivilwar.com/wv7thcav > > > > ============================================== 7th West Virginia Cavalry http://www.wvcivilwar.com/wv7thcav/ ============================================== > > > Joetta McCallister Kuhn > 29 Kuhn Road, Alum Creek, WV 25003-9028 > Home: (304) 756-9615 >
Jim Burgess would love to go but cannot. I have the Civil War Medallion of Cornelius Burgess and a picture. thanks Jim Burges in Arizona. -----Original Message----- From: suebod [mailto:suebod@tampabay.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:20 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] [Fwd: 7th WV Cavalry Descendants Reunion] Me also. Maybe with a little more notice next year? Hope it goes very well. Please consider posting a report for us out of staters. We're with you in spirit. Sue in Tampa, FL [and thanks; this is one of the few lists that shows my ggrandfather Henry Webb and his brothers, and I have their service records] At 11:10 PM 7/5/06 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks,Rick; > That would be wonderful to visit the Droop Mountain battlesite.That was the >largest battle in West Virginia in the civil war.The Confederates lost to the >Union army that day My grandfather(John Wilson Burgess) was in that unit. >Wish >I could go. >Cuz; >Shelby > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
From late June to July 1, I posted messages on this list and about 20 others. I want to thank all those who gave and offered help. Bottom line though, Im still in search for a clue to Silas Fannins last days, with place and date of death. Several who replied had found the information posted by Deborah Maynard Chatley saying Silas and Polly died in Wyoming county, WV. Ive checked those statements in every way I know and found no verification. I suspect they are not true. Replies to my message have dwindled away, so I will be unsubscribing soon. Im getting too much mail not applicable to my situation. If anyone should find any record pertaining to Silas Fannin after 1887 somewhere, please email me at rhsayre@excite.com. I need to point out again that Silas had a grandson named Silas Fannin who settled in Lincoln county, WV about 1900. Im interested in finding information about the older Silas Fannin, b. about 1822 in KY. Thank you. Ralph H. Sayre rhsayre@excite.com
Hi Shelby, a memory quilt is any quilt made in memorial to any particular occassion/family/person that the creator wishes to make it for....This particular creator, Barbara Mullins Kral, made a couple of memory quilts with old to new family photos transferred onto the fabric blocks (it's a fairly simple process if you make quilts, craft, or sew). You can use your computer to scan your chosen photos, add captions, print them onto the special printible quilt sheets (purchased at sewing and craft stores), and then design the quilt to your liking with the fabric colors and style of your choice. Some quilt creators may even tack on little personal momentos, or symbols to help embellish the meaning of what they wish to convey. It is up to the creator. My mother in law received one a year ago, and it was very nice. She hid it away in a box for safe keeping; though in my own opinion (and being a quilt maker) believe all quilts should be openly displayed, in a proper manner, for everyone' viewing pleasure.... Hey, a great thought! Maybe, I should buy her a nice quilt wall rack for her to display it on!! She is the hardest person to buy for. Thank you so much Shelby! Sandi --- BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: > Dear Sandi; > What is on a memory quilt ? I never saw one. Shelby __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
That was very interesting northern Virginia history; I never knew where Ann Page homeplace was until now. Thanks Gracie. Shelby
You are welcome, Shelby Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Post on WVPIONEERS-L archives > That was very interesting northern Virginia history; I never knew where Ann > Page homeplace was until now. Thanks Gracie. > > Shelby > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >
I thought this was very touching and interesting. Have not found the "to be continued" yet. I was searching for something on my SELLERS line, not sure why this came up, but glad it did. I never know what comes up when researching either SELLERS or DELAY lines. Gracie =============================================================== This chapter is too "powerful" to be taken apart....so here it is complete except for socio-economic data for the 1910-1940 era. Go North then on the Valley Pike, where at least one man had died for every yard over which the automobile runs equably. You may try to see the present only, but the tread of the dead soldiers, blue and gray, still has power to shake the Valley hearts, and on this ground they cannot be forgotten. Here is Newmarket, where the army bands played "Rockabye Baby" when the cadets came in. This is Mount Jackson, where Stonewall rested with his lemons and his Bible, where Sheridan once said to a dying captured soldier, "Aren't you McNeill of the Rangers?" and the answer was, "I Am." Five hundred Confederates still rest in this burying ground, more than one hundred of them unnamed and unknown. And here is Woodstock, where Peter Muhlenberg threw off his parson's gown to show the blue and buff of an earlier war. But there were men of peace as well as warriors in this most peaceful Valley - and men of healing. In Edom, near the homestead whence the LINCOLN family sprang, lived Dr. Joseph BENNETT, who in 1794 performed a successful Caesarian operation on his wife, and saved both mother and child. This was fifteen years before Dr. McDOWELL's oophorectomy. Dr. Walter REED, the hero of yellow fever research, spent part of his youth in Harrisonburg. Dr. WILMER, the eye surgeon, long had a country home near Berryville. Once it had a group of famous potteries. Strasburg and Maurertown, just north of Woodstock, were nicknamed Pot town and Jug Town. A family of Palatine refugees, Anglicized as "Bell", potters by trade, followed the usual route through Pennsylvania and Maryland to the Valley. Samuel BELL set up his wheels at Strasburg in 1833. He was a patient man and skilled. Hs workmen earned $9 a month and really learned their business. He was followed by sons and sons-in-law, all with an honest love of their craft, who attracted others until there were six potteries in operation. The last wheel turned in 1908, and the industry has been abandoned. Now if a collector should find an old blue jar, a brown stone crock, a decorated mug or pitcher, it would have to be at a dim old house or remote farm. The junk-filled antique shops along the road have discovered the rarity of these items, and have set a prohibitive price upon "the Shenandoah Pottery." (Personal note - Wonder what these pieces are worth today?) The road leads on through Middletown and Kernstown, where Jackson fought his first Sunday battle and suffered his first defeat. Along this stretch Miss Charlotte HILLMAN dropped her tollgate in front of Sheridan and his whole army. The general humored her courage by paying for himself and his staff, but told her that she would have to hold the United States government responsible for the rest. And that is what she did. She counted the soldiers as they passed, presented her bill after the war, and collected. (Personal note - She has to be one of my ancestors :-) ) Here on the gentle swells of land just south of Winchester begins the lower Valley, home of the English settlers, a countryside of noble trees, old houses, long memories, and gentle manners. In Frederick and Clark, Jefferson and Berkeley, the old houses tell the story, and it is not possible to escape their meaning. On Cedar Creek, a name full of sorrow and triumph, stands Harmony Hall, built as a fort against the Indians by Joist HITE's son-in-law, George BOWMAN. The rough stones were roughly put together in 1753, and although the stockade around them vanished long ago, they have defied the weather, and marauders ever since. The little MILLER girl ran to this house on the day in 1764 when her family were massacred. Here BOWMAN sired and reared four distinguished sons, one to be a colonel in the Revolution, two to go west with the Lewis and Clark Expedition, none to command militia in Kentucky. A few miles northeast, Isaac HITE, grandson of the pioneer, built Belle Grove in 1787. Tradition says that Thomas Jefferson drew the plans, and certainly the house shows his influence. It is low, a story and a half, and handsomely proportioned. James and Dolly Madison stopped there on their wedding trip, for Mrs. HITE was Madison's sister, and the poor bride was taken with fever and ague. She recovered in a few days, however, and spent the rest of the fortnight "with great pleasure on our side, and I hope with no less on the other," as her husband wrote. Not all of Belle Grove's memories are happy. In the stone-walled cellar a Negress beat her mistress to death with a shovel. While Sheridan was using it as headquarters, young General Stephen RAMSEUR died there, his baby unseen, holding the hand of his enemy and schoolmate, Colonel DuPont. A noble young face, all life and fire, looks from his portrait. The baby whom he never saw is probably dead by now, but Belle Grove goes on. In 1928 it was sold to a Honeywell of Boston and of Harvard University. PAGES and WASHINGTONS, CARTERS and BURWELLS, RANDOLPHS, PEYTONS, HARRISONS, MEADES, NELSONS, BYRDS, PENDLETONS, seeded the ground. PAGES and their descendants built Pagebrook, and Annefield, where the box, lilacs, and syringa planted more than a hundred years ago by "sweet Anne PAGE" still grown and bloom. PAGES came to own Dan MORGAN's Saratoga. PAGES built the Briars where John Esten COOKE lived, wrote and died after he married one of them. Cooke's histories and novels, in the Walter Scott tradition and overromantic for the present taste, were best sellers in their day. He served during the Civil War on General Jackson's staff, and "Surry of Eagle's Nest" and other books blended a vivid record of his experiences with a lush imagination. To be continued...
Dear Sandi; What is on a memory quilt ? I never saw one. We always had big crowds at our Blair Homecoming, but this year only about 50 people attended. I hope the youth of our generations carry on the annual tradition Shelby