You are welcome, Carole ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carole Hammond" <carole.hammond@comcast.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Droopy Mountain/Sierraclub and Aultz > Thanks, Gracie! > > > > > > For those who want to do something positive about the MTR and coal > > mining in general, go here. Sign thepetition on this page about MTR. > > > > http://westvirginia.sierraclub.org/ > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I was touched by how many of the surnames in my tree program were in the Droopy Mountain Civil War list. Since I have a long way to go for my tree, I don't know if they are direct line or not. I just figure that they were cousins of some sort cause even if I don't find them in WV, I find a connection futher west, usually in Illinois/Missouri. For those who want to do something positive about the MTR and coal mining in general, go here. Sign thepetition on this page about MTR. http://westvirginia.sierraclub.org/ Shelby, I think Aultz was probably in Kanawha Co. But not for sure and MapQuest doesn't know either. lol What little I did find was listed under the surname, Aultz, in someone's genealogy research. Or some court fight about wages. Gracie

Shelby, There was a town/settlement in Kanawha County, that I believe is now a part of Charleston, that was once called Aultz. Not sure if it is the same one or not but it is the only one I have been able to find in my Civil War Books. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] [Fwd: 7th WV Cavalry Descendants Reunion] > Does anyone know where Aultz, Va. was ? a lot of the civil war men > enlisted > at Aultz > Most of the Logan county men enlisted at Brownstown(Marmet). some at > Coalsmouth(St. Albans), and some at Mud River,Lincoln county. > > Shelby > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Thanks, Gracie! > > For those who want to do something positive about the MTR and coal > mining in general, go here. Sign thepetition on this page about MTR. > > http://westvirginia.sierraclub.org/

I will hush after this post. The coal - producing Appalachian Cos. in WVA, VA, KY, TN get next to no support from their state governments and especially no assistance from the federal government. This has been the case since mining began. The coal companies and the government care nothing about the destruction of our environment and culture. They care even less about the safety of the miners. What came of Sago and Melville? Are they constructing safe rooms in the underground mines? Are the miners carrying more oxygen now? Will people unite to pressure the powers that be to stop MTR? Rick

Amen Peggy! K ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Gentry" <mspeg@cox.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 9:25 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mining > Mention drilling in Alaska and the environmentalist hit the pavement hard. > They don't want "the pristine" wilderness destroyed. Lop off a mountain > top in WV and where are they? Alaska isn't anymore beautiful or pristine > than WV. - Peggy > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Does anyone recognize this Lee Toler? 1920 Logan County, West Virginia Census Tridelphia District Dwelling 6 Lee Toler 55 Male White West Virginia Elizabeth Toler 54 Female White West Virginia James Toler 34 Male White West Virginia Light Toler 18 Male White West Virginia By the way Martin Toler was not the first Toler to die in a mining accident. there have been several. Too Bad. Jim Burgess

What exactly can someone do that lives out of state? This cause has touched me deeply in just a matter of minutes of learning about the devastation, and I would truly be interested in getting involved in some way. Anybody have any ideas on what a person could do? Sheryl in Michigan

I am sure glad people are reading about this horror. Shelby, Gail, and I saw it first hand up close in Blair. It is beyond shameful and truly evil. It is a slap in the face to every West Virginian. Rick > > From: SAMW6@aol.com > Date: 2006/07/06 Thu PM 08:45:58 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] MTR Mining > > > This is such a shameful > situation. I have sent this through before but think it bears repeating. > http://www.grist.org/advice/books/2006/02/16/moore/ Be sure to click on the > "related stories" in the little blue box > > The best (safest) way to fight nowadays is in the voting booth. > > > Wow. I had no idea. I didn't really understand what mountain top removal > mining was until I read this and clicked on the "related stories" article. > Was in tears. I couldn't imagine what all the effects were on the land, the > communities, the people. Thank you for making me aware. I swear I'm ready to > join Mountain Justice Summer! > > This is pure evil. > > Sheryl in Michigan > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

This is such a shameful situation. I have sent this through before but think it bears repeating. http://www.grist.org/advice/books/2006/02/16/moore/ Be sure to click on the "related stories" in the little blue box The best (safest) way to fight nowadays is in the voting booth. Wow. I had no idea. I didn't really understand what mountain top removal mining was until I read this and clicked on the "related stories" article. Was in tears. I couldn't imagine what all the effects were on the land, the communities, the people. Thank you for making me aware. I swear I'm ready to join Mountain Justice Summer! This is pure evil. Sheryl in Michigan

Very true, Peggy. Join all the environmentalist groups that you can and push them into doing something about this. G. ----- Original Message ----- From: "P. Gentry" <mspeg@cox.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Mining > Mention drilling in Alaska and the environmentalist hit the pavement hard. They don't want "the pristine" wilderness destroyed. Lop off a mountain top in WV and where are they? Alaska isn't anymore beautiful or pristine than WV. - Peggy > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Rick, it goes beyond slap to outright manslaughter for the miners. (should have gone for that walk, gonna have to use backspace)(a lot) The pitiful little fines that the companies get are not right. Gotta go for walk, later all. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] MTR Mining > I am sure glad people are reading about this horror. Shelby, Gail, and I saw it first hand up close in Blair. It is beyond shameful and truly evil. It is a slap in the face to every West Virginian. Rick > > > > From: SAMW6@aol.com > > Date: 2006/07/06 Thu PM 08:45:58 EDT > > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [WVLOGAN] MTR Mining > > > > > > This is such a shameful > > situation. I have sent this through before but think it bears repeating. > > http://www.grist.org/advice/books/2006/02/16/moore/ Be sure to click on the > > "related stories" in the little blue box > > > > The best (safest) way to fight nowadays is in the voting booth. > > > > > > Wow. I had no idea. I didn't really understand what mountain top removal > > mining was until I read this and clicked on the "related stories" article. > > Was in tears. I couldn't imagine what all the effects were on the land, the > > communities, the people. Thank you for making me aware. I swear I'm ready to > > join Mountain Justice Summer! > > > > This is pure evil. > > > > Sheryl in Michigan > > > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Sheryl, one thing that I don't think was mentioned on the Grist mailing is what is done with all the rocks and dirt that are left after the companies take all the coal off the mountains. They dump it into the river/streams/creeks below the mountain. Join www.americanrivers.org As for the way the coal companies treat their workers, write/e-mail congress, senate, the president and let them know how angry/upset you are about this evil. Tell them to MAKE the coal companies follow the rules that have been in effect for years. Only law officers and soldiers should expect to die at their job. Ok, going for another walk, later Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <SAMW6@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] MTR Mining > What exactly can someone do that lives out of state? This cause has > touched me deeply in just a matter of minutes of learning about the devastation, > and I would truly be interested in getting involved in some way. Anybody have > any ideas on what a person could do? > > Sheryl in Michigan > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Mention drilling in Alaska and the environmentalist hit the pavement hard. They don't want "the pristine" wilderness destroyed. Lop off a mountain top in WV and where are they? Alaska isn't anymore beautiful or pristine than WV. - Peggy

Does anyone know where Aultz, Va. was ? a lot of the civil war men enlisted at Aultz Most of the Logan county men enlisted at Brownstown(Marmet). some at Coalsmouth(St. Albans), and some at Mud River,Lincoln county. Shelby

It's also being done in SW VA....so WVA is not alone. -----Original Message----- From: rcs5@bellsouth.net [mailto:rcs5@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:06 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] Mining I sure do agree with what you all have said about mining and Logan Co. I know that the MTR "mining" is in Logan, Boone, Kanawha, and Mercer Cos. Where else are they doing it? Is it being done in the northern WVa coal counties like Marion, Monongalia, Upshur, and others? What about Kentucky? Did you all read about the mining in Canada - safe rooms, etc. And what about the oxygen supply? Has the legislature done anything to require miners to be equipped with more oxygen? I saw my first black lung sickness and death as a young child. My uncle Dorsey Sutphin of Pond Fork suffered horribly. Mom was helping aunt Vida nurse him. I was sent back to Blair before he died. I still remember his labored breathing and aunt Vida's heartache. Yes, West Virginians need to stand up to the coal companies and the state legislature they own. Rick Stewart ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Rick, Thanks for sharing this event. I would love to attend to learn about my great great grandfather James Workman's (m. Rebecca Chambers) activities during the CW. We just might be able to plan a genealogy research trip in the fall around this time! I have contacted Steve Cunningham and requested to receive the newsletter. I might also add that I met Terry Lowry at the WV Archives in the Cultural Center in Charleston a few years ago. He is a very friendly and interesting person, so I know that his presentation will be very good. I purchased a couple of his books about my Confederate ancestors when at Gettysburg a few years ago, but I have not seen "Last Sleep: The Battle of Droop Mountain." I have shared a family Civil War letter and a photo with him for possible inclusion in a future book, so am sure he'd love to have anything anyone would like to share. Sandra Comer in Missouri (Ball, Workman, Chambers, Cole, Baisden, Baldwin, McNeely, McHandsley, Estep, Chafin, Branham, Clark, Farley, plus) --- rcs5@bellsouth.net wrote: > I hope it is all right to forward this info to the > county lists. It was sent to me by Joetta Kuhn, a > Boone Co. genealogist. Rick Stewart > > > > > Steve Cunningham <steve@wvcivilwar.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 08:36:04 -0700 > > From: Steve Cunningham <steve@wvcivilwar.com> > > Subject: 7th WV Cavalry Descendants Reunion > > To: 7th WV Cavalry <wv7thcav@wvcivilwar.com> > > > > Hello and greetings to my fellow 7th West > Virginia Cavalry descendants. I hope this email > finds you doing well. > > > > I wanted to let you all know about a proposed > event to be held this fall. On Saturday, October > 14, 2006, as part of the Battle of Droop Mountain > Reenactment weekend of events, we are tentatively > planning a reunion of all 7th West Virginia Cavalry > descendants. If enough folks express an interest > in attending and participating, we will have various > activities such as a brief history presentation > about the regiment (by yours truly), a tour of the > Droop Mountain Battlefield with author/historian > Terry Lowry (author of Last Sleep: The Battle of > Droop Mountain and expert on the battle) which will > include viewing the area where the regiment made > their assault up the mountain, and other > presentations by descendants such as one by Bill > Kiser who will share information on his ancestor, > George Siders, who was wounded at Droop. > > > > Other activities during the day will include > Civil War reenactors who will have living history > camps and a battle reenactment during the afternoon. > > > > Please reply and let me know if you are > interested in attending or if you have any > questions. Pocahontas County is a beautiful place > to visit in the fall and you will have the > opportunity to meet and interact with other > descendants of the 7th West Virginia Cavalry. I > will provide more details as the date draws near. > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you, > > Steve Cunningham > > > > > > Droop Mountain Battlefield web site > > http://www.droopmountainbattlefield.com/ > > > > > > 7th West Virginia Cavalry web site > > http://www.wvcivilwar.com/wv7thcav > > > > > > > > ============================================== 7th > West Virginia Cavalry > http://www.wvcivilwar.com/wv7thcav/ > ============================================== > > > > > > Joetta McCallister Kuhn > > 29 Kuhn Road, Alum Creek, WV 25003-9028 > > Home: (304) 756-9615 > > > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thank you for posting this. What a gold mine of info. Sue At 09:03 AM 7/6/06 -0400, you wrote: >Thanks for that wonderful information about the Seventh Cavalry. By >following one of the links on that page, I discovered the West Virginia Book >Company and signed up to get e-mail notices from them about their >publications. Here's the web address > >www.wvbookco.com <http://www.wvbookco.com/> > > > >Are there any other great websites I'm missing about Appalachia and books? > > > >Ada WILSON Kent, > >Worthington Ohio > >(Researching and not getting very far-- Wilson, Spence, Ellis, Steele, >Music, Sesco, Duty in VA, WV, KY) > > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Well said, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: <EKutn@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:53 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The real story of West Virginia Death Records > > The current mining practices are radically destroying everything about our > way of life.They generally buy, burn, blowup and then throw some eerie looking > chartreuse colored grass( reminds me of astro turf) on flattened mountains > and then say it's "reclaimed".They send miners to theirs deaths w/ > insufficient equipment to survive in the presence of a cave-in when the technology is > readily available to insure survival for many. They won't waste their profits > on protecting the life of a coal miner. When the coal is extracted, they're on > their way to Fiji or to buy another Mercedes, and the real money goes back > to the cities. Greed is a basic aspect of of human nature and left unchecked( > which is the current situation in Southern WV), it will continue to destroy > our towns and our culture. > > The impetus to change the situation has to come from deep within the > residents of West Virginia.My hope is that they will unite and insist on safer deep > mining practices with the use of current safety technology and improved > working conditions within the mines. That they will protect their hometowns, their > mountains and their way of life, by not allowing mountaintop removal > operations. Nationally we can assist by voting in environmentally aware politicians > who may help. We can visit and become aware of the reality of the current > situation as picture is worth a thousand words.We can resolve to learn the > facts. There is much we can and should do. However, the real impetus to protect > southern West Virginia must come from the hearts of West Virginians who are > ready to move into the future but are firmly resolved to keep the essence of > their culture and their state intact. > > Gail Burgess > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi, Rick Yes, this same thing is being done in the surrounding states but not to the extent that it is in Wv. The laws are a little better in Ky (not much but a little better inforced). The regulations are on the books to stop a lot of the deaths but the companies get away with ignoring them for some reason. Especially in Wv. My Okla redneck attitude says, "get out there and kick some coal company axxxs" but the West Virginian's have already done that and too many died trying. And things don't seem to have changed. At least the little horses are not being used down in the mines. They have gotten better treatment than the miners. This is such a shameful situation. I have sent this through before but think it bears repeating. http://www.grist.org/advice/books/2006/02/16/moore/ Be sure to click on the "related stories" in the little blue box The best (safest) way to fight nowadays is in the voting booth. Ok, took a little walk so that my post won't look like a cross word puzzle without the O's. As I understand it, the machines (that scoop up all the mess that is left after blasting away the tops of the mountains) is now in Australia doing the same thing there. Gracie PS, the moderator of a genie chat room that I go to, well, her mother died recently of BL and she now lives in Okla. The way I understand it, her mother got it because her husband worked in a coal mine. All these laws and regulations for cigaretts but do not a XXXX thing to the coal companies. Off for another walk. Will type at ya'll later on. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:06 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Mining > I sure do agree with what you all have said about mining and Logan Co. I know that the MTR "mining" is in Logan, Boone, Kanawha, and Mercer Cos. Where else are they doing it? Is it being done in the northern WVa coal counties like Marion, Monongalia, Upshur, and others? What about Kentucky? > > Did you all read about the mining in Canada - safe rooms, etc. And what about the oxygen supply? Has the legislature done anything to require miners to be equipped with more oxygen? > > I saw my first black lung sickness and death as a young child. My uncle Dorsey Sutphin of Pond Fork suffered horribly. Mom was helping aunt Vida nurse him. I was sent back to Blair before he died. I still remember his labored breathing and aunt Vida's heartache. > > Yes, West Virginians need to stand up to the coal companies and the state legislature they own. > > Rick Stewart > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >