Dodie; You may be right on where Hughey was located Did you know there was town name Spankem, on Huff creek ?When the railroad was built, the trainmen watched as a mother spanked her naughty kids; they yelled,"spankem, lady" and the name took hold. Shelby
Dodie, no I don't remember the story either, however, I will talk to my older sister and I will ask her. She may remember and there is another person I can ask. I will let you know if I get the story or any part of the story. Beulah McLemore Keeping in touch, keeps friendship growing. 703-620-1389 home 703-405-5522 cell -----Original Message----- From: D Browning [mailto:famsteel@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 7:16 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] For Shelby & Other "Youngins" Hi Beulah, Do you remember the Bloody Bones story as you heard it? There was also one about a man with a "head as big as a wash tub and eyes as big as churns", but I can't remember that one either. Dodie --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx
When we were really young, (I'm 42) my dad used to tell us the story of "Little Black Sambo" I never believed it was a "real" story until one day (years later) my dad found the book at a bookstore and bought it. It is now completely out of print as it is a "banned book". I found a copy at an antique store and bought it as a reminder. (Little black sambo wasn't black he was indian [from India]). I'll have to have my dad remind me of some of these stories. I'm hopefully going to be going to Chicago sometime in August to spend a long weekend there. Laura -----Original Message----- From: D Browning [mailto:famsteel@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:51 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] For Shelby & Other "Youngins" My grandmother, Synthia Ann (Workman) Smith (born 1874) used to tell us scarey stories that had been passed from generation to generatkion in her family. One of the stories was "Rawhead And Bloody Bones". I can't remember the plot, but seems like RHABB lived in an attic? (Maybe murdered in an attic? But I may have it confused with another story?) I tried to "Google" it but coudn't find the actual story. It appears that there were different versions- mostly a monster living in a swamp. Some say the story was Gaelic, some say Celtic, some say English (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and some say that slaves brought the story from Africa.The Oxford English Dictionary dates the name Rawhead And Bloody Bones back as far as circa1550. Does anyone remember your parents or grandparents telling you the story called "Rawhead And Bloody Bones"? Would love to read some of the old stories that our Logan County ancestors used to tell us when we were children (60 to 80 years ago). Dodie --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx
Dodie, Uncle Summers Buzzard used to tell us stories all the time and it seems to me that I have heard that one. One of his favorites was "9 toes" and another one was "Falling Rock". Nine toes had to do with a wild animal (possibly a cat???) that had 9 toes on one foot and Falling Rock was a story about an Indian. I can't remember either story, but I will email my sister and see if she does. One of our favorite things to do on a Saturday night was stay up late, tell ghost stories and watch "Chller" on TV. Then Granny would get mad because none of us could sleep! Anita
Shelby, I have never heard of "Spankem" <grin>. You all are the best! My arthritis is acting up as usual, so I am very limited as to how much I can participate in the discussions, but here is some info I dug out: (A couple of excerpts from unpublished manuscript "Peach Creek WV, A Doorway To America" by Dodie (Smith) Browning.) "The first post office for the Peach Creek and Crooked Creek area was called Hughey, West Virginia. It was about two miles up Crooked Creek, at what later became Johnson Camp. The Hughey post office was about 3/4 mile below two coal mines that were in operation and where company owned homes were built to house the mine employees"...... ....."The Hughey Post Office, Logan County WV, opened 26 March 1909. It was discontinued July 15, 1925; mail to Peach Creek". (Hughey Information from USPS Archives, Washington DC and Interviews with Myrtle (Avis) White, a retired Postmaster, who began her career with the Peach Creek post office in 1935 and Frank P. "Rusty" Corn, octogenarian and lifelong resident of Peach Creek.) BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: Dodie; You may be right on where Hughey was located Did you know there was town name Spankem, on Huff creek ?When the railroad was built, the trainmen watched as a mother spanked her naughty kids; they yelled,"spankem, lady" and the name took hold. Shelby --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Ah, those old towns' names; does anyone know where Hughie, Logan County WV is ? Shelby
Rick, Here I sit just up the mountain from Glen Ferris and forgot all about it. Thanks for reminding me. I am headed down for our August meeting of the genealogy society. I am not sure why there are so many "Glen"s". Would be interesting to find out, don't you think? Anita
Lee, Thanks for that. There is so much history in these hills. I love hearing all of the stories. Anita
Shelby, I thought that it had something to do with land formations but I wasn't sure. However, Glen Jean had previously been named White Oak. There was also another name that I can't remember. Anita
Shelby, wasn't Hughey between Peach Creek and Crooked Creek? BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: Ah, those old towns' names; does anyone know where Hughie, Logan County WV is ? Shelby --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
Hello Dodie - I would sure like to hear them too. I just remember the themes would be some critter is "gonna git you" if...............Rick > > From: D Browning <famsteel@yahoo.com> > Date: 2006/07/23 Sun PM 04:50:48 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] For Shelby & Other "Youngins" > > My grandmother, Synthia Ann (Workman) Smith (born 1874) used to tell us scarey stories that had been passed from generation to generatkion in her family. One of the stories was "Rawhead And Bloody Bones". I can't remember the plot, but seems like RHABB lived in an attic? (Maybe murdered in an attic? But I may have it confused with another story?) I tried to "Google" it but coudn't find the actual story. It appears that there were different versions- mostly a monster living in a swamp. Some say the story was Gaelic, some say Celtic, some say English (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and some say that slaves brought the story from Africa.The Oxford English Dictionary dates the name Rawhead And Bloody Bones back as far as circa1550. > > Does anyone remember your parents or grandparents telling you the story called "Rawhead And Bloody Bones"? Would love to read some of the old stories that our Logan County ancestors used to tell us when we were children (60 to 80 years ago). > Dodie > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > >
Thanks Dodie, I haven't thought about those scary stores that we would hear sitting round the fireplace or heating stove in a long time. I have heard a version of Bloody Bones Story and I think it did change depending on who was telling the tale. That was a big part of family entertainment and usually after dark. Beulah McLemore Keeping in touch, keeps friendship growing. 703-620-1389 home 703-405-5522 cell -----Original Message----- From: BurgessWV@aol.com [mailto:BurgessWV@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 5:30 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] For Shelby & Other "Youngins" Thanks,Dodie; I remember as a child,I was warned about a headless horseman who traveled at night,cutting off heads of children who were out late at night ! that got me indoors early.Grandmother Baisden would get us kids quiet when noisy, by saying an earthquake was coming.Back then, old folks would tell you a lie to keep you out of mischief Sorry; I hadnt heard of the Blood & Bones story.Will do some searching on it Shelby ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx
Thanks,Dodie; I remember as a child,I was warned about a headless horseman who traveled at night,cutting off heads of children who were out late at night ! that got me indoors early.Grandmother Baisden would get us kids quiet when noisy, by saying an earthquake was coming.Back then, old folks would tell you a lie to keep you out of mischief Sorry; I hadnt heard of the Blood & Bones story.Will do some searching on it Shelby
I wonder if this is the kind of story that my mother borrowed from to get one of her favorite "threats." "If I catch you doing that one more time I'm going to rip your arm off and beat you with the bloody end of it!" Yes, yes, yes! I know that is a terrible thing to say to a sweet little child but we always knew she was kidding and we laughed....but we usually didn't do it again. The one time she said it and may have meant it was when a boy passing through the neighborhood starting jumping off the porch and landing in the middle of Mama's daphne bush that Grandma gave her....he did it several times. We yelled at him to stop and then ran into the house to get Mama. Heartbroken she bellowed her infamous threat at him and he took off like a scalded cat! That rotten kid ~never~ walked by our house again....he'd cross the street and then watch the door for Mama to come out as he went on. Mama figured she was safe in saying that because she was usually soft-spoken and mild of manner....and no adult would ever think she'd talk like that. We children thought that it was very appropriate that time.
Rick, Based on our social work training, those scary stories would not be appropriate to teach children in today's world, but they sure kept us in line, didn't they? Dodie rcs5@bellsouth.net wrote: Hello Dodie - I would sure like to hear them too. I just remember the themes would be some critter is "gonna git you" if...............Rick > > From: D Browning > Date: 2006/07/23 Sun PM 04:50:48 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] For Shelby & Other "Youngins" > > My grandmother, Synthia Ann (Workman) Smith (born 1874) used to tell us scarey stories that had been passed from generation to generatkion in her family. One of the stories was "Rawhead And Bloody Bones". I can't remember the plot, but seems like RHABB lived in an attic? (Maybe murdered in an attic? But I may have it confused with another story?) I tried to "Google" it but coudn't find the actual story. It appears that there were different versions- mostly a monster living in a swamp. Some say the story was Gaelic, some say Celtic, some say English (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and some say that slaves brought the story from Africa.The Oxford English Dictionary dates the name Rawhead And Bloody Bones back as far as circa1550. > > Does anyone remember your parents or grandparents telling you the story called "Rawhead And Bloody Bones"? Would love to read some of the old stories that our Logan County ancestors used to tell us when we were children (60 to 80 years ago). > Dodie --------------------------------- See the all-new, redesigned Yahoo.com. Check it out.
Hi Beulah, Do you remember the Bloody Bones story as you heard it? There was also one about a man with a "head as big as a wash tub and eyes as big as churns", but I can't remember that one either. Dodie --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Shelby, Child rearing was totally different back in the old days. The Headless Horseman is from The Legend of Sleepy Hollow written in the 1800s. That was a good one too. I didn't hear about the earth quakes. Dodie BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: Thanks,Dodie; I remember as a child,I was warned about a headless horseman who traveled at night,cutting off heads of children who were out late at night ! that got me indoors early.Grandmother Baisden would get us kids quiet when noisy, by saying an earthquake was coming.Back then, old folks would tell you a lie to keep you out of mischief Sorry; I hadnt heard of the Blood & Bones story.Will do some searching on it Shelby ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Thanks, Jim. I googled it before I wrote to the list. I was never "into that sort of thing" either- most likely the reason I blocked it out of memory. Folklore and story telling (especially ghost stories) are an important part of our Logan County Heritage though. --------------------------------- Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.
Did a search on Google. I am not into this sort of this but the internet if full of this stuff! Here you go! Jim Burgess http://www.whatwasthen.com/halloween.htm RAWHEAD AND BLOODY BONES This was the full name, but it is sometimes shortened to 'Bloody Bones' or 'Old Bloody Bones', and sometimes to 'Tommy Rawhead'. Samuel Johnson in his dictionary defines it as 'the name of a spectre, mentioned to fright children', and quotes instances from Dryden and Locke. In Lancashire and Yorkshire, 'Tommy Rawhead' or 'Rawhead and Bloody Bones' is a water demon haunting old marl-pits or deep ponds to drag children down into their depths, like the other Nursery Bogies, Peg Powler and Nelly Longarms. Mrs Wright, in RUSTIC SPEECH AND FOLK LORE, quotes a typical warning: 'Keep away from the marl-pit or rawhead and bloody bones will have you.' #100-752 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Bones http://mywebpages.comcast.net/scottandrewh/bb.html http://www.lehigh.edu/~amsp/2004/09/rawhead-and-bloody-bones.html http://www.randomhouse.com/features/lkhamilton/essay.html -----Original Message----- From: D Browning [mailto:famsteel@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:51 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [WVLOGAN] For Shelby & Other "Youngins" My grandmother, Synthia Ann (Workman) Smith (born 1874) used to tell us scarey stories that had been passed from generation to generatkion in her family. One of the stories was "Rawhead And Bloody Bones". I can't remember the plot, but seems like RHABB lived in an attic? (Maybe murdered in an attic? But I may have it confused with another story?) I tried to "Google" it but coudn't find the actual story. It appears that there were different versions- mostly a monster living in a swamp. Some say the story was Gaelic, some say Celtic, some say English (Lancashire and Yorkshire) and some say that slaves brought the story from Africa.The Oxford English Dictionary dates the name Rawhead And Bloody Bones back as far as circa1550. Does anyone remember your parents or grandparents telling you the story called "Rawhead And Bloody Bones"? Would love to read some of the old stories that our Logan County ancestors used to tell us when we were children (60 to 80 years ago). Dodie --------------------------------- Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx
> > This is a site with 885 obituaries on it called Old Virginia Obituaries, > 1790-1940. Maybe it might help someone. > > > <http://virginiaobits.homestead.com/index.html>