Sandi Thank you very much for explaining the fears of the people who are living close to the coal. Now I have to ask everyone on the list, is there coal in every part of WV? Another thing, why are people still living in fear of coal cos? Where is the law inforcement? This is not the middle ages. Pls don't take me wrong, I do know that nothing is changed over night but in this day and age, people should not have to live this way. Join the groups who are trying to make a difference. These don't cost anything but your time. Here in Okla, we have had the kind of distruction in the Logan Banner article but not what is going on with the MTR. If we don't fight for our cemeteries nation wide, well, I just don't know what to say. (That should say something , me at a loss for words) http://www.americanrivers.org/site/PageServer http://whistler.sierraclub.org/action/actionindex.jsp Gracie forever fighting for the cemeteries. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi" <sandmayo@yahoo.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code > Hi, > > The following is a link.... > > http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 > > which should allow emailing and postal mail to WV > elected officals. > > These officals are pushing tourism in our state. > Your tourism dollars mean a lot to their locale's > economy. Your opinion may mean more, if it voices why > you may or may not visit WV. > > The Coal Bowl is a good example of how they are using > the college scene to draw in sports fans. > > Have a great week, > Sandi > > > > > --- dkb <dkb@greenapple.com> wrote: > > > Sandi, > > > > I think as native West Virginian's that live out > > side this great state > > should get on the band wagon to have this > > destruction stopped to the > > cemeteries. > > > > I say start a letter campaign to the governor and > > also letters to the > > editors of the newspapers around the state. > > > > I am willing, do we have others that are willing to > > stand up? > > > > Could you provide an address for the governor? > > > > K > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sandi" <sandmayo@yahoo.com> > > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:15 PM > > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Excellant article below..... > > > > > > > > > http://www.loganbanner.com/search/search_detail.cfm?ID=1892 > > > > > > Another incident happened recently in July 2006, > > as > > > reported in the Logan Banner, where a cemetery was > > > half destroyed by a natural gas drilling company, > > for > > > whom the employees just plowed right through the > > > middle of an old family cemetery. It was stated > > that > > > protest was raised by a witness, but an employee > > of > > > stated company made a vulgar remark and gave total > > > disregard as to the descency and sanctity of the > > > cemetery and went on about their business. As of > > yet, > > > nothing has been reported about if charges were > > filed, > > > or followed through by the law. > > > > > > ATV riders, usually locals, are the most > > destructive. > > > They are allowed to drive on the main highways, > > and > > > the police turn a blind eye. I have witnessed > > this > > > myself, in Man, during a Veterans' Memorial > > Dedication > > > Ceremony. I was told by Man residents that if > > they > > > raised protest in any way, their homes have rocks > > > thrown at them, and mud. Windows broke and > > > vulgarities shouted at them by the same passersby > > that > > > may have been asked to stop. Again, the law > > > enforcement does nothing. Though recently, Man > > passed > > > a new law that does not allow ATV riders to drive > > on > > > the main highway; it makes you wonder, how much it > > is > > > being enforced. > > > > > > I was told by my great aunt that their family > > cemetery > > > is in danger constantly by rogue logging thieves > > who > > > have been coming onto their property to steal > > timber. > > > Being a mountainous piece of property, she has no > > way > > > of defending the cemetery or the trees. I was > > told > > > one man lives on this mountain, and there are > > atleast > > > 2 cemeteries on it, for which require four wheel > > drive > > > to reach them. > > > > > > My great great grandfather's cemetery (Queens > > Ridge > > > Family Cemetery) is in danger of underground > > mining. > > > There is an ongoing fight to stop the coal mine > > from > > > proceeding and causing any damages to this old > > > ancestral burial ground. > > > > > > Yes, it matters. It matters a lot about my > > family's > > > cemeteries, as well as, others I visit. But, its > > > better to use honey than vinegar when you live > > within > > > the wasps' nest. Many of you, being so far > > removed > > > can voice your opinions much more earnestly, > > without > > > fear of threat of your home being burned as you > > lay in > > > it at night. I will fight this battle the best > > way I > > > can, and you all keep up your protests and making > > your > > > opinions known. If the WV politians know that > > > outsiders are concerned, and your tourism dollars > > to > > > the great state of WV may not come in the future, > > if > > > your family cemeteries are not there to > > > visit.....well, they may take another deeper look > > into > > > enforcing these defunct laws! > > > > > > To Governor Joe Manchin, the almighty dollar is > > > helping him want to lead WV into the future of > > > business. Tourism is a big part of that goal. > > Write > > > letters to this effect, about not wanting to visit > > a > > > state that allows destruction of its family > > cemeteries > > > to enhance financial gain. > > > > > > I read a famous quote by Benjamin Franklin: > > > "Either write things worth reading or do things > > worth > > > the writing." > > > > > > And also, it was stated by a historian on the > > History > > > Channel that Benjamin Franklin was quoted to have > > > said: "If I wish to know more about a community > > and > > > it's people, all I have to do is visit it's > > cemetery." > > > > > > > > > I do take his advise, and as of lately I have been > > > terribly disappointed in many communities. > > > > > > Have a great week, > > > Sandi > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Sandi, I think as native West Virginian's that live out side this great state should get on the band wagon to have this destruction stopped to the cemeteries. I say start a letter campaign to the governor and also letters to the editors of the newspapers around the state. I am willing, do we have others that are willing to stand up? Could you provide an address for the governor? K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandi" <sandmayo@yahoo.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:15 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code > > Hi, > > Excellant article below..... > > http://www.loganbanner.com/search/search_detail.cfm?ID=1892 > > Another incident happened recently in July 2006, as > reported in the Logan Banner, where a cemetery was > half destroyed by a natural gas drilling company, for > whom the employees just plowed right through the > middle of an old family cemetery. It was stated that > protest was raised by a witness, but an employee of > stated company made a vulgar remark and gave total > disregard as to the descency and sanctity of the > cemetery and went on about their business. As of yet, > nothing has been reported about if charges were filed, > or followed through by the law. > > ATV riders, usually locals, are the most destructive. > They are allowed to drive on the main highways, and > the police turn a blind eye. I have witnessed this > myself, in Man, during a Veterans' Memorial Dedication > Ceremony. I was told by Man residents that if they > raised protest in any way, their homes have rocks > thrown at them, and mud. Windows broke and > vulgarities shouted at them by the same passersby that > may have been asked to stop. Again, the law > enforcement does nothing. Though recently, Man passed > a new law that does not allow ATV riders to drive on > the main highway; it makes you wonder, how much it is > being enforced. > > I was told by my great aunt that their family cemetery > is in danger constantly by rogue logging thieves who > have been coming onto their property to steal timber. > Being a mountainous piece of property, she has no way > of defending the cemetery or the trees. I was told > one man lives on this mountain, and there are atleast > 2 cemeteries on it, for which require four wheel drive > to reach them. > > My great great grandfather's cemetery (Queens Ridge > Family Cemetery) is in danger of underground mining. > There is an ongoing fight to stop the coal mine from > proceeding and causing any damages to this old > ancestral burial ground. > > Yes, it matters. It matters a lot about my family's > cemeteries, as well as, others I visit. But, its > better to use honey than vinegar when you live within > the wasps' nest. Many of you, being so far removed > can voice your opinions much more earnestly, without > fear of threat of your home being burned as you lay in > it at night. I will fight this battle the best way I > can, and you all keep up your protests and making your > opinions known. If the WV politians know that > outsiders are concerned, and your tourism dollars to > the great state of WV may not come in the future, if > your family cemeteries are not there to > visit.....well, they may take another deeper look into > enforcing these defunct laws! > > To Governor Joe Manchin, the almighty dollar is > helping him want to lead WV into the future of > business. Tourism is a big part of that goal. Write > letters to this effect, about not wanting to visit a > state that allows destruction of its family cemeteries > to enhance financial gain. > > I read a famous quote by Benjamin Franklin: > "Either write things worth reading or do things worth > the writing." > > And also, it was stated by a historian on the History > Channel that Benjamin Franklin was quoted to have > said: "If I wish to know more about a community and > it's people, all I have to do is visit it's cemetery." > > > I do take his advise, and as of lately I have been > terribly disappointed in many communities. > > Have a great week, > Sandi > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

Hello Anita - Shelby's daughter Gail wrote a pst about our people being colonized by the coal barons. I don't remember the month in which she wrote it. It is so true though. There's plenty of coal left that could be deep-mined as far as jobs go. We have seen the pictures of Blair Mtn., up Pond around Bim, Cabin Creek, Whitesville, Princeton. This isn't industry. It is blatant destruction of our mountains. As to the cemetaries - check the area of these MTR sites - one little cemetary is going to stop them? Rick > > From: Atnvolsgirl@wmconnect.com > Date: 2006/08/09 Wed PM 02:54:52 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > > Rick, > > That is what I don't understand. WV has state codes that I thought > prohibited this sort of action. But I guess I am wrong. > > I have an uncle from Mingo County and a couple of years ago, our great great > grandparents farm here in Fayette County was bought and I was concerned about > the small family cemetery located there. My uncle, who for the last thirty > years has worked on strip mines told me that there was no need for concern that > WV has laws that protect those old cemeteries and the company that he works > for obeys those laws. So, apparently some of them (such as Massey and Arch) for > whatever reason get away with the destruction. Massey Energy is a pain in > many of our backsides that live here in WV. > > Anita > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

A few years back, my family visited the Jarrell cemetery at Stark. It is located on the Luarel Fork of Spruce.Strip mining was going on, and a guard stopped them. My wife told the guard we were visiting as relatives. He said: " go ahead, I cant stop you even if I wished; the law allows visitation at all cemeterys" Shelby

Hi, The following is a link.... http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 which should allow emailing and postal mail to WV elected officals. These officals are pushing tourism in our state. Your tourism dollars mean a lot to their locale's economy. Your opinion may mean more, if it voices why you may or may not visit WV. The Coal Bowl is a good example of how they are using the college scene to draw in sports fans. Have a great week, Sandi --- dkb <dkb@greenapple.com> wrote: > Sandi, > > I think as native West Virginian's that live out > side this great state > should get on the band wagon to have this > destruction stopped to the > cemeteries. > > I say start a letter campaign to the governor and > also letters to the > editors of the newspapers around the state. > > I am willing, do we have others that are willing to > stand up? > > Could you provide an address for the governor? > > K > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandi" <sandmayo@yahoo.com> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 5:15 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Excellant article below..... > > > > > http://www.loganbanner.com/search/search_detail.cfm?ID=1892 > > > > Another incident happened recently in July 2006, > as > > reported in the Logan Banner, where a cemetery was > > half destroyed by a natural gas drilling company, > for > > whom the employees just plowed right through the > > middle of an old family cemetery. It was stated > that > > protest was raised by a witness, but an employee > of > > stated company made a vulgar remark and gave total > > disregard as to the descency and sanctity of the > > cemetery and went on about their business. As of > yet, > > nothing has been reported about if charges were > filed, > > or followed through by the law. > > > > ATV riders, usually locals, are the most > destructive. > > They are allowed to drive on the main highways, > and > > the police turn a blind eye. I have witnessed > this > > myself, in Man, during a Veterans' Memorial > Dedication > > Ceremony. I was told by Man residents that if > they > > raised protest in any way, their homes have rocks > > thrown at them, and mud. Windows broke and > > vulgarities shouted at them by the same passersby > that > > may have been asked to stop. Again, the law > > enforcement does nothing. Though recently, Man > passed > > a new law that does not allow ATV riders to drive > on > > the main highway; it makes you wonder, how much it > is > > being enforced. > > > > I was told by my great aunt that their family > cemetery > > is in danger constantly by rogue logging thieves > who > > have been coming onto their property to steal > timber. > > Being a mountainous piece of property, she has no > way > > of defending the cemetery or the trees. I was > told > > one man lives on this mountain, and there are > atleast > > 2 cemeteries on it, for which require four wheel > drive > > to reach them. > > > > My great great grandfather's cemetery (Queens > Ridge > > Family Cemetery) is in danger of underground > mining. > > There is an ongoing fight to stop the coal mine > from > > proceeding and causing any damages to this old > > ancestral burial ground. > > > > Yes, it matters. It matters a lot about my > family's > > cemeteries, as well as, others I visit. But, its > > better to use honey than vinegar when you live > within > > the wasps' nest. Many of you, being so far > removed > > can voice your opinions much more earnestly, > without > > fear of threat of your home being burned as you > lay in > > it at night. I will fight this battle the best > way I > > can, and you all keep up your protests and making > your > > opinions known. If the WV politians know that > > outsiders are concerned, and your tourism dollars > to > > the great state of WV may not come in the future, > if > > your family cemeteries are not there to > > visit.....well, they may take another deeper look > into > > enforcing these defunct laws! > > > > To Governor Joe Manchin, the almighty dollar is > > helping him want to lead WV into the future of > > business. Tourism is a big part of that goal. > Write > > letters to this effect, about not wanting to visit > a > > state that allows destruction of its family > cemeteries > > to enhance financial gain. > > > > I read a famous quote by Benjamin Franklin: > > "Either write things worth reading or do things > worth > > the writing." > > > > And also, it was stated by a historian on the > History > > Channel that Benjamin Franklin was quoted to have > > said: "If I wish to know more about a community > and > > it's people, all I have to do is visit it's > cemetery." > > > > > > I do take his advise, and as of lately I have been > > terribly disappointed in many communities. > > > > Have a great week, > > Sandi > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Shelby They were lucky. The coal companies are using the toxic stuff that is a side effect of MTR to stop people from going to some cemeteries. Such a sad thing. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > A few years back, my family visited the Jarrell cemetery at Stark. It is > located on the Luarel Fork of Spruce.Strip mining was going on, and a guard > stopped them. My wife told the guard we were visiting as relatives. He said: " go > ahead, I cant stop you even if I wished; the law allows visitation at all > cemeterys" > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Rick, That is what I don't understand. WV has state codes that I thought prohibited this sort of action. But I guess I am wrong. I have an uncle from Mingo County and a couple of years ago, our great great grandparents farm here in Fayette County was bought and I was concerned about the small family cemetery located there. My uncle, who for the last thirty years has worked on strip mines told me that there was no need for concern that WV has laws that protect those old cemeteries and the company that he works for obeys those laws. So, apparently some of them (such as Massey and Arch) for whatever reason get away with the destruction. Massey Energy is a pain in many of our backsides that live here in WV. Anita

Anita, I am sure the codes are there. They are mostly not being inforced and when they are, the the fines are so small that they don't even count. Were I you, I would go check the family cemetery if possible. That is if you are even allowed to get to it. You didn't mention who your uncle sold it to. Or have someone in the area check for you. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atnvolsgirl@wmconnect.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > Rick, > > That is what I don't understand. WV has state codes that I thought > prohibited this sort of action. But I guess I am wrong. > > I have an uncle from Mingo County and a couple of years ago, our great great > grandparents farm here in Fayette County was bought and I was concerned about > the small family cemetery located there. My uncle, who for the last thirty > years has worked on strip mines told me that there was no need for concern that > WV has laws that protect those old cemeteries and the company that he works > for obeys those laws. So, apparently some of them (such as Massey and Arch) for > whatever reason get away with the destruction. Massey Energy is a pain in > many of our backsides that live here in WV. > > Anita > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Hi, Excellant article below..... http://www.loganbanner.com/search/search_detail.cfm?ID=1892 Another incident happened recently in July 2006, as reported in the Logan Banner, where a cemetery was half destroyed by a natural gas drilling company, for whom the employees just plowed right through the middle of an old family cemetery. It was stated that protest was raised by a witness, but an employee of stated company made a vulgar remark and gave total disregard as to the descency and sanctity of the cemetery and went on about their business. As of yet, nothing has been reported about if charges were filed, or followed through by the law. ATV riders, usually locals, are the most destructive. They are allowed to drive on the main highways, and the police turn a blind eye. I have witnessed this myself, in Man, during a Veterans' Memorial Dedication Ceremony. I was told by Man residents that if they raised protest in any way, their homes have rocks thrown at them, and mud. Windows broke and vulgarities shouted at them by the same passersby that may have been asked to stop. Again, the law enforcement does nothing. Though recently, Man passed a new law that does not allow ATV riders to drive on the main highway; it makes you wonder, how much it is being enforced. I was told by my great aunt that their family cemetery is in danger constantly by rogue logging thieves who have been coming onto their property to steal timber. Being a mountainous piece of property, she has no way of defending the cemetery or the trees. I was told one man lives on this mountain, and there are atleast 2 cemeteries on it, for which require four wheel drive to reach them. My great great grandfather's cemetery (Queens Ridge Family Cemetery) is in danger of underground mining. There is an ongoing fight to stop the coal mine from proceeding and causing any damages to this old ancestral burial ground. Yes, it matters. It matters a lot about my family's cemeteries, as well as, others I visit. But, its better to use honey than vinegar when you live within the wasps' nest. Many of you, being so far removed can voice your opinions much more earnestly, without fear of threat of your home being burned as you lay in it at night. I will fight this battle the best way I can, and you all keep up your protests and making your opinions known. If the WV politians know that outsiders are concerned, and your tourism dollars to the great state of WV may not come in the future, if your family cemeteries are not there to visit.....well, they may take another deeper look into enforcing these defunct laws! To Governor Joe Manchin, the almighty dollar is helping him want to lead WV into the future of business. Tourism is a big part of that goal. Write letters to this effect, about not wanting to visit a state that allows destruction of its family cemeteries to enhance financial gain. I read a famous quote by Benjamin Franklin: "Either write things worth reading or do things worth the writing." And also, it was stated by a historian on the History Channel that Benjamin Franklin was quoted to have said: "If I wish to know more about a community and it's people, all I have to do is visit it's cemetery." I do take his advise, and as of lately I have been terribly disappointed in many communities. Have a great week, Sandi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I think the reason more residents of these areas don't fight is this is their bread & butter. Even though they aren't in management and don't get rich from this, this is how they pay the bills. It is hard to cut off your hand in order to save your soul. I am against mountain top removal, but I understand how they are blinded by the "security" of a paycheck. We can only hope that they realize what is happening before it is too late, sadly as we all know in many areas, it already is! Evelyn -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:16 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. Not until the people living in WV stand up to the politicians and the coal companies. There is NO excuse for the burial sites being distroyed like this. I do what I can from way out here but the pressure HAS to come from the WV voters. Snail mail/E-mail campaigns. March on the capitol. Become tree huggers. Join every group that fights the good fight. Contact the agency that has control over the cemeteries. Pester congress and senate heads. Tell them how angry this makes you and that you won't stand for it anymore. These are OUR ancestors/family that they are dumping out like trash. Write to the EPA and give them H***. Write to every newspaper and tv station in the USA. Our president has an e-mail addy. If enough people will bring this travesty to the attention of the general public and not let them forget, mayby it CAN be stopped. Send the Grist article to the Native American groups in the area. Off my soap box for a few minutes. I never said I wasn't a redneck. I was born and bred in Oklahoma after all. And I am decended from those radical Baisden/Hagers. Gosh, my third ggrandfather, Jean Schmidt Baisden joined twice in the Rev War. Gracie in Okla. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > Gracie, this is so awful. It seems to me they are focusing on the tributaries of the Big Coal and Little Coal Rivers. That includes a large area and many streams we speak about here such as Spruce Fork. Whitesville is on the Big Coal. Apparently there is no stopping it. Rick > > > > From: "gracie" <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > > Date: 2006/08/08 Tue AM 11:44:08 EDT > > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > > > > Whitesville, Wv grave yard. > > > > http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/08/03/tzerman/index.html?source=week ly > > > > Gracie > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > ______________________________

Gracie; I will borrow your soap box for a while. Me & my late wife Norma fought the MTR Cos. for a long time. We joined Ohio Valley environmetal group, Mrs Bonds organization on Big Coal river, and the Cabin creek org. I have given money , video cam,and wrote to several law makers about the abuseof our mountains.Its all nearly hopeless unless your a WV resident. The coal cos. bought up all homes they could b uy offering triple the worth of the homes. People fell for it and moved to other places where they are not happy.Its a sad situation when one gives up his or her heritage for something they dont like. Shelby

Yes, it is so sad to read about people who sold and moved from their roots. I wasn't even born there but can feel the mountains of WV pulling me back. My various main lines all lived in Va/Wv, most from Wv. Guess my ancestors are wanting me to go there for some reason. Mayby to fight with the coal cos. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > Gracie; > I will borrow your soap box for a while. Me & my late wife Norma fought the > MTR Cos. for a long time. We joined Ohio Valley environmetal group, Mrs Bonds > organization on Big Coal river, and the Cabin creek org. I have given money , > video cam,and wrote to several law makers about the abuseof our mountains.Its > all nearly hopeless unless your a WV resident. > The coal cos. bought up all homes they could b uy offering triple the worth > of the homes. People fell for it and moved to other places where they are not > happy.Its a sad situation when one gives up his or her heritage for something > they dont like. > > Shelby > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Gracie, this is so awful. It seems to me they are focusing on the tributaries of the Big Coal and Little Coal Rivers. That includes a large area and many streams we speak about here such as Spruce Fork. Whitesville is on the Big Coal. Apparently there is no stopping it. Rick > > From: "gracie" <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > Date: 2006/08/08 Tue AM 11:44:08 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > > Whitesville, Wv grave yard. > > http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/08/03/tzerman/index.html?source=weekly > > Gracie > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Not until the people living in WV stand up to the politicians and the coal companies. There is NO excuse for the burial sites being distroyed like this. I do what I can from way out here but the pressure HAS to come from the WV voters. Snail mail/E-mail campaigns. March on the capitol. Become tree huggers. Join every group that fights the good fight. Contact the agency that has control over the cemeteries. Pester congress and senate heads. Tell them how angry this makes you and that you won't stand for it anymore. These are OUR ancestors/family that they are dumping out like trash. Write to the EPA and give them H***. Write to every newspaper and tv station in the USA. Our president has an e-mail addy. If enough people will bring this travesty to the attention of the general public and not let them forget, mayby it CAN be stopped. Send the Grist article to the Native American groups in the area. Off my soap box for a few minutes. I never said I wasn't a redneck. I was born and bred in Oklahoma after all. And I am decended from those radical Baisden/Hagers. Gosh, my third ggrandfather, Jean Schmidt Baisden joined twice in the Rev War. Gracie in Okla. ----- Original Message ----- From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > Gracie, this is so awful. It seems to me they are focusing on the tributaries of the Big Coal and Little Coal Rivers. That includes a large area and many streams we speak about here such as Spruce Fork. Whitesville is on the Big Coal. Apparently there is no stopping it. Rick > > > > From: "gracie" <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > > Date: 2006/08/08 Tue AM 11:44:08 EDT > > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [WVLOGAN] Sorry, but MTR again. > > > > Whitesville, Wv grave yard. > > > > http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/08/03/tzerman/index.html?source=weekly > > > > Gracie > > > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Gracie, Thanks for posting this article. As an avid stomper of cemeteries, I am member of the Fayette/Raleigh Counties Genealogical Society. At the present time I am retyping cemetery lists for Raleigh County, many of which can be found in that same area of the county. I have printed the article and plan to give it to the elderly gentleman who so proudly stomped those very cemeteries in order to have them recorded. I am sure that it will be a big heartbreak for him. Thanks again, Anita McClung Fayette County, WV

Whitesville, Wv grave yard. http://www.grist.org/news/maindish/2006/08/03/tzerman/index.html?source=weekly Gracie

Is there a local member who attends meetings on this list? If so can you email me privately? Thanks! Laura

Gracie.. I know one of the lines I have Wellman has 3 volumes. Vol 2 & 3 have corrections and additions to Vol 1. If you don't have all three you only have part of the story. I know the complier is working on Vol 4 (I offered to help, but I'm too far away as he's in Iowa or Nebraska (somewhere out there). I've been thinking about how I was going to do this, and I want to have a easy way to get/make corrections. I've actually thought about doing a PDF, and folks can always just download the updated PDF file. Laura -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:47 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Tracking the Pioneers Hi, researchers If I might make a suggestion to those who are thinking/planning on doing a book, the last book for my DeLay line is set up so that pages may be added later. I'm not sure how that effects the cost but would provide a place for corrections and new information. I decend from Henry DeLay and Elizabeth Crouch (Augusta Co.) through their son James (Hampshire Co.). Henry owned land in Tygart Valley in the 1770s. Just thought I would mention them in case someone on the list might also be a decendent of these lines. If not, tis ok. Never know if ya don't say something. lol Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernia Brooks" <vbrooks6@earthlink.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Tracking the Pioneers > I wish to thank Stanley Browning for his research and for copy of his > book "Tracking the Pioneers". I am disappointed in the information listed about my 2nd great grandfather Allen K.M. Browning. > > A picture of Allen and his 3rd wife Angeline Wiley Daniels which I > sent to Stanley, is included. However his parents are listed as William and Sarah (Wallace) Browning, I have a copy of the marriage record for Allen and Angeline where he stated that his father was Francis. I have no documentation for his mother but believe others on this list who think she was a neighbor Elizabeth Minton Deal. > > Allen's date of death is listed in the book one place as 1917 and in another place as 1905, which I told Stanley. Allen's granddaughter, Emma Williamson Steele told me in 1989 that Allen died when she was very young, about 1905 and he was not listed in the 1910 census. > > I realize that no researcher can get all the facts correct but when we print something we aren't sure about it just perpetuates the errors. Vernia > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http:/ /www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi, researchers If I might make a suggestion to those who are thinking/planning on doing a book, the last book for my DeLay line is set up so that pages may be added later. I'm not sure how that effects the cost but would provide a place for corrections and new information. I decend from Henry DeLay and Elizabeth Crouch (Augusta Co.) through their son James (Hampshire Co.). Henry owned land in Tygart Valley in the 1770s. Just thought I would mention them in case someone on the list might also be a decendent of these lines. If not, tis ok. Never know if ya don't say something. lol Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vernia Brooks" <vbrooks6@earthlink.net> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 2:25 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] Tracking the Pioneers > I wish to thank Stanley Browning for his research and for copy of his book "Tracking the Pioneers". I am disappointed in the information listed about my 2nd great grandfather Allen K.M. Browning. > > A picture of Allen and his 3rd wife Angeline Wiley Daniels which I sent to Stanley, is included. However his parents are listed as William and Sarah (Wallace) Browning, I have a copy of the marriage record for Allen and Angeline where he stated that his father was Francis. I have no documentation for his mother but believe others on this list who think she was a neighbor Elizabeth Minton Deal. > > Allen's date of death is listed in the book one place as 1917 and in another place as 1905, which I told Stanley. Allen's granddaughter, Emma Williamson Steele told me in 1989 that Allen died when she was very young, about 1905 and he was not listed in the 1910 census. > > I realize that no researcher can get all the facts correct but when we print something we aren't sure about it just perpetuates the errors. Vernia > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http:/ /www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

I wish to thank Stanley Browning for his research and for copy of his book "Tracking the Pioneers". I am disappointed in the information listed about my 2nd great grandfather Allen K.M. Browning. A picture of Allen and his 3rd wife Angeline Wiley Daniels which I sent to Stanley, is included. However his parents are listed as William and Sarah (Wallace) Browning, I have a copy of the marriage record for Allen and Angeline where he stated that his father was Francis. I have no documentation for his mother but believe others on this list who think she was a neighbor Elizabeth Minton Deal. Allen's date of death is listed in the book one place as 1917 and in another place as 1905, which I told Stanley. Allen's granddaughter, Emma Williamson Steele told me in 1989 that Allen died when she was very young, about 1905 and he was not listed in the 1910 census. I realize that no researcher can get all the facts correct but when we print something we aren't sure about it just perpetuates the errors. Vernia