Gail and other list members, This letter really got to me. Your description and your feelings are very real. Please send this letter to Gov. Manchin. Here is his e-mail address. Governor@WVGov.org I was tempted to just forward it myself, but I think it is Gail's decision to send it. I sent him my own e-mail asking him to speak up for those who were afraid of the Coal Barons, and to put an end to the destruction. Thanks for your insight Gail. Through your eyes and skill at putting your observations into words, I am sure you have empowered others to take some action. Evelyn Wilburn Sukey -----Original Message----- From: EKutn@aol.com [mailto:EKutn@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:41 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code There are no words to express the outrage and grief I feel for the loss of much of my hometown, Blair, where I was born and practically raised. And if they touch our family cemetary, White Oak,where my mother and both sets of grandparents are buried,and many, other relatives for generations, I don't know how I will deal with it. Exactly how do you deal with having generations of your relatives removed from their graves so they can blast the mountain into tiny pieces? How do you put that into any kind of rational perspective? It's crazy, it's totally insane. They have already blasted all around the cemetery, bought and burned my parent's home and my mamaw's and papaw's houses as well.Much of the terrain of our little town, the railroad, the creek, the hollers are all completely defaced, houses of course are all gone and our lower end of Blair( Midway) is unrecognizable. Rick's Aunt's house is one of the few that still stands. I am glad it is there because I remember it from childhood and it reminds me of what Blair used to be like.The scope of the defacement creates a sense of shock as even the most stable geographic features( mountains, roads,railroad tracks, bridges,houses, etc) are all gone.It's as if your childhood hometown never existed even as you stand in the exact spot where it should be. Gail ______________________________

Dear Logan County Genealogist, White Oak Cemetery is one of the special places on earth for me! Several hundred of my cousins are buried there. My great grand parents Hiram Mullins and Jane Riggins lie there. This entire discussion ticks me off and brings tears to my eyes. Can someone please take a picture of the blasting that has been done around the White Oak Cemetery? thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: Evelyn Sukey [mailto:elsukey@glwb.net] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:08 AM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code Gail and other list members, This letter really got to me. Your description and your feelings are very real. Please send this letter to Gov. Manchin. Here is his e-mail address. Governor@WVGov.org I was tempted to just forward it myself, but I think it is Gail's decision to send it. I sent him my own e-mail asking him to speak up for those who were afraid of the Coal Barons, and to put an end to the destruction. Thanks for your insight Gail. Through your eyes and skill at putting your observations into words, I am sure you have empowered others to take some action. Evelyn Wilburn Sukey -----Original Message----- From: EKutn@aol.com [mailto:EKutn@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 11:41 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code There are no words to express the outrage and grief I feel for the loss of much of my hometown, Blair, where I was born and practically raised. And if they touch our family cemetary, White Oak,where my mother and both sets of grandparents are buried,and many, other relatives for generations, I don't know how I will deal with it. Exactly how do you deal with having generations of your relatives removed from their graves so they can blast the mountain into tiny pieces? How do you put that into any kind of rational perspective? It's crazy, it's totally insane. They have already blasted all around the cemetery, bought and burned my parent's home and my mamaw's and papaw's houses as well.Much of the terrain of our little town, the railroad, the creek, the hollers are all completely defaced, houses of course are all gone and our lower end of Blair( Midway) is unrecognizable. Rick's Aunt's house is one of the few that still stands. I am glad it is there because I remember it from childhood and it reminds me of what Blair used to be like.The scope of the defacement creates a sense of shock as even the most stable geographic features( mountains, roads,railroad tracks, bridges,houses, etc) are all gone.It's as if your childhood hometown never existed even as you stand in the exact spot where it should be. Gail ______________________________ ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx

My Ggrandparents lived in Yolyn and Slagle both of which are gone on Rum Creek. I drove up Rum Creek several years ago, to the top of the mountain where the Lowe cemetery is, then back down into Amherstdale. Rum Creek was a very lonely place. You could tell where houses used to be but are gone. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Cartwright1512@aol.com [mailto:Cartwright1512@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:47 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN]E-Mail to Governor Manchin LOOK AT RUM CREEK HOW THEY DID A WAY WITH THE PEOPLE IN DABNEY, DEHUE AND THE OTHER PLACES AND THE PEOPLE. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE HUNTINGTON NEWSPAPER THEY HAD AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHEN THE COAL COMPANY BOUGHT THE PEOPLE OUT FOR THERE HOMES AND PROPERTY THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA. ABOUT 20 TO 30 MILES IT MY MEMORY STILL WORK'S. I KNOW IT IS NOT GENEALOGY, BUT COULD SOMEONE SEND ME MORRISON'S HOT DOG RECIPE. ALSO I WAS TOLD THAT WHEN THEY PUT THE NEW ROAD FROM LOGAN TO MAN THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE ROBINETTE CEMENTARY ON THE LOWER PART OF THREE MILE CURVE. THANKS MAX ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

>>Are there any descendants of Elijah Vance, b 1803 in VA, out there? Sure >>would love to talk to them about him. DNA's been a boon to genealogy and >>just think how great if all the Vance men would take 37 marker tests .<< How about descendants of James Vance, too? He was the son of Abner and Barbara. There are some living direct-descent Vance men in Labette Co., Kansas. Is anyone here in contact with them or any other direct descendants of James Vance that you know of? With the lack of actual documentation this is the only way to get back into the 1700's with certainty of ancestor. Carole

Max, do you know if they are going to move the Robinette cemetery or just shove it down the mountain with the refuse from the road? Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <Cartwright1512@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN]E-Mail to Governor Manchin > LOOK AT RUM CREEK HOW THEY DID A WAY WITH THE PEOPLE IN DABNEY, DEHUE > > AND THE OTHER PLACES AND THE PEOPLE. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE > > HUNTINGTON NEWSPAPER THEY HAD AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHEN THE COAL > > COMPANY BOUGHT THE PEOPLE OUT FOR THERE HOMES AND PROPERTY THEY > > HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA. ABOUT 20 TO 30 MILES IT MY MEMORY STILL > > WORK'S. I KNOW IT IS NOT GENEALOGY, BUT COULD SOMEONE SEND ME > > MORRISON'S HOT DOG RECIPE. ALSO I WAS TOLD THAT WHEN THEY PUT THE NEW > > ROAD FROM LOGAN TO MAN THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE ROBINETTE > > CEMENTARY ON THE LOWER PART OF THREE MILE CURVE. > > THANKS > > MAX > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Ada, thank you from the bottom of my heart. What really gets to me about this situation is that most of the MTR workers probably have ancestors in these cemeteries, whether they know it or not. I sent e-mails to more than just the governor, no response yet. Btw, I posted the Grist url on the Blankenship mailing list also. And got very positive answers. I am still a little, well, scared to make these posts since the problem over the cemetery in Tx. last year. I want to thank all the Logan list members for all the support with this issue. And the moderator for allowing me to do this here. I still think that cemeteries are a part of genealogy. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ada G. Kent" <agkent@columbus.rr.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 8:26 PM Subject: RE: [WVLOGAN]E-Mail to Governor Manchin > I just sent my comments to Governor Manchin. I will let you know if I get a > reply. > > Ada Wilson Kent > Worthington, OH > > -----Original Message----- > From: Sandi [mailto:sandmayo@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:03 PM > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code > > Hi, > > The following is a link.... > > http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 > > which should allow emailing and postal mail to WV > elected officals. > > ashx > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

LOOK AT RUM CREEK HOW THEY DID A WAY WITH THE PEOPLE IN DABNEY, DEHUE AND THE OTHER PLACES AND THE PEOPLE. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO IN THE HUNTINGTON NEWSPAPER THEY HAD AN ARTICLE ABOUT WHEN THE COAL COMPANY BOUGHT THE PEOPLE OUT FOR THERE HOMES AND PROPERTY THEY HAD TO MOVE OUT OF THE AREA. ABOUT 20 TO 30 MILES IT MY MEMORY STILL WORK'S. I KNOW IT IS NOT GENEALOGY, BUT COULD SOMEONE SEND ME MORRISON'S HOT DOG RECIPE. ALSO I WAS TOLD THAT WHEN THEY PUT THE NEW ROAD FROM LOGAN TO MAN THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THE ROBINETTE CEMENTARY ON THE LOWER PART OF THREE MILE CURVE. THANKS MAX

I just sent my comments to Governor Manchin. I will let you know if I get a reply. Ada Wilson Kent Worthington, OH -----Original Message----- From: Sandi [mailto:sandmayo@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 6:03 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code Hi, The following is a link.... http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 which should allow emailing and postal mail to WV elected officals. ashx

I don't know if you have access to this through your local library or not. It looks interesting. Perhaps those who subscribe to that university library to get access to Heritage Quest may be able get this. > Use this link to find out what you can do with WorldCat, the library > catalog. If your library has remote access you can probably search from > your > home. Rather than me explaining it just go to this URL and read for > yourself. > > http://www.oclc.org/worldcat/genealogy/faq.htm > > Basic information about WorldCat can be found at > > http://worldcat.org/whatis/default.htm >

I wish to commend and congratulate Phyllis Kirk and her Harts High 2006 Project for their recent schoolastic award....She and several of her students were on the front page of the Logan Banner, pictured with the WV First Lady. Quite a prestigious award. Keep up the great work! More educators should enstill within the youth to take an interest in their community, their heritage, their ancestors, and where the cemeteries are. Thanks to your students hard work, I have located many ancestors' and other familial relations burial sites. Otherwise, I would have never found them. Thanks so much! Sandi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Thank you, ma'am. Sue At 10:20 PM 8/9/06 -0500, you wrote: >http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 > > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

For those you who don't live in WV you probably don't know this, but Gov. Joe Manchin and Don Blankenship, the CEO of Massey are far from being friends. I also know that Cecil Roberts would like to put it to Massey Energy as well. With a name like Blankenship, doesn't it make you wonder if his roots lie deep in the heart of Logan County? Anita

Our ancestors property was sold for taxes about 40 years ago before I or any of my generation had anything to do with it and we weren't aware that it was for sale this time until this gentleman bought it. We knew that the property was there but I was not aware that there was a cemetery on it until a couple of years ago. That property sat abandoned for nearly fifty years and there are no roads in or out making the cemetery very nearly inaccessible and right now, I have been told that it is overrun with rattlesnakes and so the search will have to wait until cooler weather. Anita

Believe me; it hasnt been easy fighting the coal barons in WV.My late wife Norma has relatives employed by them, so I have to shake hands with one hand, and swat Masse & Arch coal cos with the other hand.You really have to watch your tongue in WV. I ask one Mingo county man what he thought of the devastation going on. His reply:"it dont bother me none". Later his water well was ruined by the blasting. So it affects people more than they know ! Shelby

>>They have already blasted all around the cemetery, bought and burned my >>parent's home and my mamaw's and papaw's houses as well.<< That is unbelievably sad and obscene! I am so, so sorry!

There are no words to express the outrage and grief I feel for the loss of much of my hometown, Blair, where I was born and practically raised. And if they touch our family cemetary, White Oak,where my mother and both sets of grandparents are buried,and many, other relatives for generations, I don't know how I will deal with it. Exactly how do you deal with having generations of your relatives removed from their graves so they can blast the mountain into tiny pieces? How do you put that into any kind of rational perspective? It's crazy, it's totally insane. They have already blasted all around the cemetery, bought and burned my parent's home and my mamaw's and papaw's houses as well.Much of the terrain of our little town, the railroad, the creek, the hollers are all completely defaced, houses of course are all gone and our lower end of Blair( Midway) is unrecognizable. Rick's Aunt's house is one of the few that still stands. I am glad it is there because I remember it from childhood and it reminds me of what Blair used to be like.The scope of the defacement creates a sense of shock as even the most stable geographic features( mountains, roads,railroad tracks, bridges,houses, etc) are all gone.It's as if your childhood hometown never existed even as you stand in the exact spot where it should be. Gail

Gail, my heart is breaking for you. These things should not be happening. I am going to stop here, can't see the screen. Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <EKutn@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Cemetery vandalism and code > There are no words to express the outrage and grief I feel for the loss of > much of my hometown, Blair, where I was born and practically raised. And if > they touch our family cemetary, White Oak,where my mother and both sets of > grandparents are buried,and many, other relatives for generations, I don't know > how I will deal with it. Exactly how do you deal with having generations of > your relatives removed from their graves so they can blast the mountain into > tiny pieces? How do you put that into any kind of rational perspective? It's > crazy, it's totally insane. They have already blasted all around the > cemetery, bought and burned my parent's home and my mamaw's and papaw's houses as > well.Much of the terrain of our little town, the railroad, the creek, the > hollers are all completely defaced, houses of course are all gone and our lower > end of Blair( Midway) is unrecognizable. Rick's Aunt's house is one of the few > that still stands. I am glad it is there because I remember it from childhood > and it reminds me of what Blair used to be like.The scope of the defacement > creates a sense of shock as even the most stable geographic features( > mountains, roads,railroad tracks, bridges,houses, etc) are all gone.It's as if your > childhood hometown never existed even as you stand in the exact spot where it > should be. > Gail > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Someone in the know, please post a list of addresses for the governor and whoever else we can start a writing campaign to stop MTR and the destruction of cemeteries. If there's a grass-roots organization founded, put them on the list, so we can join. I would think each county genealogical society should take it upon themself to determine from a list of their county cemeteries, which ones are protected under the Historic Preservation Act and which ones are not. It's a simple chart: Name/Yes/No. Post it, sit back and listen to us scream. This is the dust of our ancestors. I know I'm in another state and my vote doesn't count in WV, but my tourism dollars darn sure do, and my mouth and letters against the state of West Virginia do to folks I normally tell how gorgeous it is, vacation there, go skiing, hike, see the leaves and the springs. You don't fight big business with money. You fight it with publicity and pressure from higher up. I can't think of anything else to do but write, email, complain, write letters to the newspapers, and those living there, keep taking pictures for us and posting them. So the big-wigs have heard it before. Stamps don't cost that much, nor emails. The alternative is to sit back and wait until WV becomes another Grand Canyon, minus the guysers. Sue >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 ----- Original Message ----- From: "suebod" <suebod@tampabay.rr.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] MTR > Someone in the know, please post a list of addresses for the governor and > whoever else we can start a writing campaign to stop MTR and the > destruction of cemeteries. > > If there's a grass-roots organization founded, put them on the list, so we > can join. > > I would think each county genealogical society should take it upon themself > to determine from a list of their county cemeteries, which ones are > protected under the Historic Preservation Act and which ones are not. It's > a simple chart: Name/Yes/No. Post it, sit back and listen to us scream. > This is the dust of our ancestors. > > I know I'm in another state and my vote doesn't count in WV, but my tourism > dollars darn sure do, and my mouth and letters against the state of West > Virginia do to folks I normally tell how gorgeous it is, vacation there, go > skiing, hike, see the leaves and the springs. > > You don't fight big business with money. You fight it with publicity and > pressure from higher up. > > I can't think of anything else to do but write, email, complain, write > letters to the newspapers, and those living there, keep taking pictures for > us and posting them. So the big-wigs have heard it before. Stamps don't > cost that much, nor emails. > > The alternative is to sit back and wait until WV becomes another Grand > Canyon, minus the guysers. > > Sue > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Dear Logan County Genealogist, When I visited the Toler Brown Cemetery at Cyclone in 2005 on the Logan County Wyoming Cemetery line, I could not get to the cemetery. There were two large roads on either side of the cemetery - there were huge mountains of dirt around the cemetery. I could not tell if the Cemtery was in tact or not. I was really upset. Just too old to climb the dirt pile and tromp through the weeds. Wish I was 25 again! Just in case we have someone new on the Logan County list - we are working on a Toler family history and have a Toler DNA project going - We are looking for Toler Men to submite their DNA to our project. The book is titled Toler Families of Southwest Virginia Descendants of David Toler and Suzanna The book is going to be 800-900 pages in length with pictures. If you are related to the Toler and have not contacted me please do so. thanks Jim Burgess -----Original Message----- From: gracie [mailto:g.winters@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 8:21 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] MTR http://www.wv.gov/sec.aspx?pgID=49 ----- Original Message ----- From: "suebod" <suebod@tampabay.rr.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 10:01 PM Subject: [WVLOGAN] MTR > Someone in the know, please post a list of addresses for the governor and > whoever else we can start a writing campaign to stop MTR and the > destruction of cemeteries. > > If there's a grass-roots organization founded, put them on the list, so we > can join. > > I would think each county genealogical society should take it upon themself > to determine from a list of their county cemeteries, which ones are > protected under the Historic Preservation Act and which ones are not. It's > a simple chart: Name/Yes/No. Post it, sit back and listen to us scream. > This is the dust of our ancestors. > > I know I'm in another state and my vote doesn't count in WV, but my tourism > dollars darn sure do, and my mouth and letters against the state of West > Virginia do to folks I normally tell how gorgeous it is, vacation there, go > skiing, hike, see the leaves and the springs. > > You don't fight big business with money. You fight it with publicity and > pressure from higher up. > > I can't think of anything else to do but write, email, complain, write > letters to the newspapers, and those living there, keep taking pictures for > us and posting them. So the big-wigs have heard it before. Stamps don't > cost that much, nor emails. > > The alternative is to sit back and wait until WV becomes another Grand > Canyon, minus the guysers. > > Sue > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx