http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/Wild%20&%20Wonderful/200608128 gracie wrote: >Hi, Judi and Shelby > My gggranduncle, Benjamin F. Hager was a circuit riding Methodist >minister also. He was b. Boone Co. and married in Logan Co., buried in the >George Hager Cemetery(Boone Co.), unless what I have is wrong. What is the >link for the church? >Cuz Gracie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> >To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:25 AM >Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Old Methodist Church At Union,Monroe County > > > > >>Thanks Judi for pointing out thr pic to me; I didnt read on far enough to >> >> >see > > >>the picture.This is a MUST for me, when I visit WV in the future. My >>ancestor, Robt. Hager , was also a circuit riding Methodist minister >> >>Cuz; Shelby >> >> >>============================== >>Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >>ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >>http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> >> >> > > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > >

Since some of you may have been viewing the destruction of portions of Blair with URLs recently posted, I would like to add that regardless of the destruction that has taken place, there is much reason to continuing to fight for what remains of Blair. What remains is beautiful and historic. Sincere thanks. Gail

Amen, Gail ----- Original Message ----- From: <EKutn@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] washingtonpost.com: Flattening the Mountains > Since some of you may have been viewing the destruction of portions of Blair > with URLs recently posted, I would like to add that regardless of the > destruction that has taken place, there is much reason to continuing to fight for > what remains of Blair. What remains is beautiful and historic. Sincere thanks. > Gail > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Shelby, is that Robert C. s/o Benjamin F. and Elizabeth Brooks or Robert W. who married Ruth Adkins? Or one that I don't show yet? ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Old Methodist Church At Union,Monroe County > Thanks Judi for pointing out thr pic to me; I didnt read on far enough to see > the picture.This is a MUST for me, when I visit WV in the future. My > ancestor, Robt. Hager , was also a circuit riding Methodist minister > > Cuz; Shelby > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

When my mother( Norma Hager Burgess) died after a long painful battle w/ cancer several years ago she wanted to be buried in Blair at White Oak with her mother. She had fought the last ten years of her life against mountaintop removal in Blair and spent meager family resources to do so. This was my mother. If she believed in something she committed to it. We had discussed the peril of White Oak due to MTR and many Blair citizens were being buried elsewhere to avoid possible unearthing and moving in the near future. My mother claimed her right to be in that cemetary.She was fully aware of the situation and chose to be buried there, regardless. Some of the residents in the 1/2 blown away town remarked about having a funeral there. You see it isn't as frequent as it used to be that people have their funerals there because of the uncertainty the town lives in due to MTR expansion, and the cemeteries are in danger. Preacher Nelson, a family friend and a Baptist preacher, conducted her service in the Methodist church next to where her mother had lived( there isn't really that much difference between the Baptists and the Methodists in our little town). Although much of the town was gone, some people came from wherever they had moved, our old neighbors, cousins, etc. Hassel Browning was there, bless his heart.We sang old hymns and then we solemnly began our winding procession through Blair to our family cemetery, White Oak. I will never forget that funeral and that slow procession through Blair. Everything was right about it,and in spite of what has been done to Blair my mom was laid to rest on that beautiful mountainside next to her mother, finally getting to leave this dirty old city and go home again, to our beautiful Blair. Gail

Cuz Gracie; The George Hager cemetery is located at Hewitt,WV (Meadow Fork). It is a large cemetery, and has many of the Hagers and those who married into em. Shelby

Details the law changes that now allow MTR!! http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/daily/graphics/mountaintopremova l_081704.html Sorry, I have been on this mission this morning. This is the last link I will forward to you on this subject. Evelyn Wilburn Sukey

You have been sent this graphic link from elsukey@glwb.net as a courtesy of washingtonpost.com Personal Message: Map showing mining areas in WV, note that most are in Logan & Boone County!! Mining Areas http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/nation/daily/graphics/miningmap_081704.html?referrer=emaillink Visit washingtonpost.com today for the latest in: News - http://www.washingtonpost.com/?referrer=emaillink Politics - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/politics/?referrer=emaillink Sports - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/sports/?referrer=emaillink Entertainment Guide - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artsandliving/entertainmentguide/?referrer=emailarticle Travel - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artsandliving/travel/?referrer=emaillink Technology - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/technology/?referrer=emaillink Want the latest news in your inbox? Check out washingtonpost.com's e-mail newsletters: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?node=admin/email&referrer=emaillink © 2004 The Washington Post Company

Thanks Judi for pointing out thr pic to me; I didnt read on far enough to see the picture.This is a MUST for me, when I visit WV in the future. My ancestor, Robt. Hager , was also a circuit riding Methodist minister Cuz; Shelby

Shelby, There is a picture of the church next to the article. Judi judinclark@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Shelby, > Thanks for pointing this out, so interesting. > If anyone does share a picture I would really like to have a copy. > The Methodist have a College named after the one person mentioned > "Asbury College". > My grandfather on my Clark side was a Methodist preacher in Logan county. > This Methodist church brought the Methodist to America. John Wesley > later followed with the Wesleyan Methodist, but it was much later to > come to the states. > Again, thanks for sharing. I would really enjoy seeing this church > someday. > Judi > > BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: > >> In todays Charleston Gazette is a story worth reading; the church was >> built in 1786, and still stands.Many of our forefathers are buried in >> the surrounding fields. Does anyone have a pic of the church ? It was >> founded by John Asbury of the Methodist faith, who broke off the >> Church of England. >> >> Shelby >> >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> > > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

Hi, Judi and Shelby My gggranduncle, Benjamin F. Hager was a circuit riding Methodist minister also. He was b. Boone Co. and married in Logan Co., buried in the George Hager Cemetery(Boone Co.), unless what I have is wrong. What is the link for the church? Cuz Gracie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BurgessWV@aol.com> To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Old Methodist Church At Union,Monroe County > Thanks Judi for pointing out thr pic to me; I didnt read on far enough to see > the picture.This is a MUST for me, when I visit WV in the future. My > ancestor, Robt. Hager , was also a circuit riding Methodist minister > > Cuz; Shelby > > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Shelby, Thanks for pointing this out, so interesting. If anyone does share a picture I would really like to have a copy. The Methodist have a College named after the one person mentioned "Asbury College". My grandfather on my Clark side was a Methodist preacher in Logan county. This Methodist church brought the Methodist to America. John Wesley later followed with the Wesleyan Methodist, but it was much later to come to the states. Again, thanks for sharing. I would really enjoy seeing this church someday. Judi BurgessWV@aol.com wrote: >In todays Charleston Gazette is a story worth reading; the church was built >in 1786, and still stands.Many of our forefathers are buried in the surrounding >fields. Does anyone have a pic of the church ? It was founded by John Asbury >of the Methodist faith, who broke off the Church of England. > >Shelby > > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > >

Link to articles in the Charleston Gazette on MTR. http://www.wvgazette.com/static/series/mining/index.html Evelyn

Be sure to click link to Blair near bottom of page http://www.wvcoalfield.com/

Be sure you carefully look at this picture, check out the trucks behind the machine, then you will get the perspective. http://members.tripod.com/~earthsaver77/link_3.html

In todays Charleston Gazette is a story worth reading; the church was built in 1786, and still stands.Many of our forefathers are buried in the surrounding fields. Does anyone have a pic of the church ? It was founded by John Asbury of the Methodist faith, who broke off the Church of England. Shelby

Rick, Here's a a link to the governmental office of surface minings which controls all surface mining. http://www.osmre.gov/mtindex.htm Laura -----Original Message----- From: rcs5@bellsouth.net [mailto:rcs5@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 2:41 PM To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: Re: [WVLOGAN] letters to the governor Hello Gail - I wish we could gather info on where MTR sites are located. I was shocked at the pix from Pond Fork around Bim. People say that KY is regulating it more. A lady told me it is being done in SW VA as well. I guess I am overwhelmed by it all. I stood in the yard at the Mullins homeplace and watched that monster of a machine destroying the mountains. Maybe I have a false impression, but is it localized to southern WVa and SW VA? I know of MTR sites in Logan, Boone, Kanawha, and Mercer Cos. Cousin Rick > From: EKutn@aol.com > Date: 2006/08/12 Sat AM 11:42:03 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] letters to the governor > > Rick, a cultural distrust of authority seems to be in line w/ years of > coal > company rule. > Although I've often thought that distrust/disdain for authority, rules, etc. > was the reason for West Virginians leaving civilized Va. in the first place, > that is to have a place to live free from restrictions in the Western Va. > Hills. I know I have a measure of authoritative distrust myself. Re: MTR,The > whole thing is demoralizing for sure, but every time I go back to visit I am > alarmed at the destruction and the rapid pace of it all. The situation is very > serious there and something has to change immediately. > > Gail > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hello Gail - I wish we could gather info on where MTR sites are located. I was shocked at the pix from Pond Fork around Bim. People say that KY is regulating it more. A lady told me it is being done in SW VA as well. I guess I am overwhelmed by it all. I stood in the yard at the Mullins homeplace and watched that monster of a machine destroying the mountains. Maybe I have a false impression, but is it localized to southern WVa and SW VA? I know of MTR sites in Logan, Boone, Kanawha, and Mercer Cos. Cousin Rick > From: EKutn@aol.com > Date: 2006/08/12 Sat AM 11:42:03 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] letters to the governor > > Rick, a cultural distrust of authority seems to be in line w/ years of coal > company rule. > Although I've often thought that distrust/disdain for authority, rules, etc. > was the reason for West Virginians leaving civilized Va. in the first place, > that is to have a place to live free from restrictions in the Western Va. > Hills. I know I have a measure of authoritative distrust myself. Re: MTR,The > whole thing is demoralizing for sure, but every time I go back to visit I am > alarmed at the destruction and the rapid pace of it all. The situation is very > serious there and something has to change immediately. > > Gail > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

Rick, a cultural distrust of authority seems to be in line w/ years of coal company rule. Although I've often thought that distrust/disdain for authority, rules, etc. was the reason for West Virginians leaving civilized Va. in the first place, that is to have a place to live free from restrictions in the Western Va. Hills. I know I have a measure of authoritative distrust myself. Re: MTR,The whole thing is demoralizing for sure, but every time I go back to visit I am alarmed at the destruction and the rapid pace of it all. The situation is very serious there and something has to change immediately. Gail

Gracie, both you and Gail are right. I will look at the Sierra link. When I was a young man and came to the Deep South, I took a series of tests including a psychological for an oil company - 1964. The man who administered the tests said everything was fine except that I seemed to have a deep distrust of authority. The doctor then said that he noticed I was from WVa so that explained the lack of trust in authority and smiled. I was hired. Rick > > From: "gracie" <g.winters@sbcglobal.net> > Date: 2006/08/11 Fri PM 07:46:26 EDT > To: WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] letters to the governor > > Rick, I do understand why you feel the way that you do. And I don't > blame any of you for feeling defeated. This has been going on for a long > time. I am not sure exactly how to change things other than joining with > each other to keep this in the public eye. Also joining groups, such as the > "American Rivers". They are fighting to keep the rivers clean and plainly > dumping the leftovers of a destroyed mountain 'dirty the waters' so to > speak. The toxic runoff from coal mines does too. > > It took a long time here to make the oil companies clean up their messes > but it did finally happen. There is a legal fight going on east of me in > Okla. over a mine. The surrounding area is polluted with arsenic and other > toxic chemicals. > > Remember that because of the internet, you in Wv are not alone anymore. > There are a lot of us out here that are 'madder than h***' who don't live > there. The politicians there may be able to ignore the "illiterate inbred > hillbillies" but what are they going to say to all of us out here across the > USA I get soo mad when mountain people are viewed as > subhuman. Just as mad as I get when my native american ancestors are > pictured the same way. I come from both and I AM PROUD OF THAT. > > Also those of us who don't live IN Wv, the coal cos can't threaten us > the way they do there. A single drop of rain can become part of a river. We > need to keep the letter writing campaign going. > > I don't keep up with the music or movie news. Do we have an actor or > singer from Wv? Get one of them involved. > > Join the West Virginia Sierra club. Pushy, aren't I. > > There is a link for Blair Mountain(PDF) on this page. > http://search.atomz.com/search/?sp-q=wv&sp-a=sp1001da90&sp-x-1=collection&sp-q-1=Main&sp-t=site_wide > http://www.sierraclub.org/ > > Gracie > Cherokee Redneck from Okla > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <rcs5@bellsouth.net> > To: <WVLOGAN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 5:44 PM > Subject: [WVLOGAN] letters to the governor > > > > I intend to write the governor as well. I have to admit that I have no > faith whatever in WVa government doing anything about MTR. This is not a > new issue. People in the coal mining counties have been treated like dirt > since they began to mine coal. Do you all hear any of Logan or Boone Cos.' > elected officials saying anything about MTR?? No, and it will never happen. > It's been a good while since ABC Nightline did a show on MTR at Blair and in > Cabin Creek. I bought the tape - mid-to-late 90s. > > Like Gail, when I look at Blair I am outraged and sick at the same time. > Nothing is the same - nothing. When I was a child I called one ridge across > the road "my mountain". I loved to just sit and look at it. It is now 1/3 > lower in elevation. Sorry to sound pessimistic. Rick > > > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >