Hello Jim; This wasnt my ancestor(John S. Baisden). He was b. 1763 in Pa. He would have been old enough(20) to serve in the Rev. war, but no receord of any pension application for him. Most applications were lost. He was living with his son in law(Thos.Copley) in the 1850 Wayne co census . Death overtook him before the next census. He married Rhoda Branham,dau of David Branham. cuz; Shelby ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hello friends, I have to crawl out every now and then. Dodie, it is so good to see you writing so much lately, because I know that it beings you physical pain to do it, so I want you to know just HOW very much it means to me when I read whatever you write about on the list. All of you, when I read and enjoy your stories I cannot express how much I enjoy them. These surnames I have grown up hearing all of my life and oh how I miss my folks. Wishing I could ask them the questions you have because I know and can just hear them say, well, everyone knows where that is, or who his dad was. My dad taught my daughter to "skin a cat" on the bar of her swing set that was the cross bar. I was a adult by then and had never heard the term. I had not had a swing so it was Jenny he taught and never heard it here in Indiana, so I smiled this morning as I read Stan Browning I believe mention doing it on the swinging bridge. I recall the swinging bridge at Cherry Tree that crossed over to White's addition I believe. My grandma Browning-Smith stayed at Cherry Tree until she died so we always were able to go back to play on it. I now wish I had ran a tape recorder each time daddy and any of our family visited and told stories of home. I have so many in my mind. Like the one of daddy and one of his brothers walking from church at Cherry Tree to home up Dempsey(adult men) carrying their Guitars (help here) it seem they walked part way on a railroad track. But they argued and daddy walked on ahead. They were sober now, remember, church, well, the one behind said a man walked behind him for he heard footsteps, and when he stopped, they stopped, this continued, he finally saw a headless man. He ran all the way home. Daddy was home before him, and my uncle was scared to death. Now my uncle honestly was a sane man who swore by this all of his life. Late 1930's. Believed or not, so many stories, not like this one, but good stories of home crowd my mind. I was enjoying reading the Banner guestbook this morning, and disappointed when it turned into more of a debate and issue arguing platform. All of you, I understand this is genealogy, but we need to remember our heritage too so please, never stop sharing your memories with us. You take me home with them, and for a while you bring my family back to me, so thank you from my heart. Judi

Thanks to K for sending the 1840 Veterans Census. This has to be John S Baisden - have never seen A Barsden in Logan County? Does this look familiar To anyone searching Baisden. Help Jim Burgess 1840 Virginia Veteran's Census Name: John S. Barsden Age: 90 Head Of Household: Edward Barsden Town: Blank County: Logan Notes:

Thank you very much! Have a great day. Joyce L. Yonts Client Service Representative 571-423-3000 [email protected] "People Making A Difference " american-flag-2a.jpg -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laura Loding Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:04 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Logan Banner Joyce, the picture you are talking about is currently located at http://www.firstalertalums.com/wvlogan/guyancoal.htm It will be moving the loganwv.net site as soon as I get to the photo section. Laura -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yonts, Joyce Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Logan Banner Laura, could you send that picture out again. 2 of the men were my dad's cousins. The Vanover men. Thanks, it is fun reading this website. Joyce, daughter of Franklin Vanover Joyce L. Yonts Client Service Representative 571-423-3000 [email protected] "People Making A Difference " american-flag-2a.jpg -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laura Loding Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WVLOGAN] Logan Banner Shelby are you talking about the guestbook? Someone posted the info about my mining picture on the guestbook, and within 2 days I had all the men identified. It was pretty nifty. Laura ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sheila, I go by landmarks also. LOL If you talk to your cousin and can get me some directions using the Post Office, the mine, Aliff's or Wade's old store, the old school or Toneda Baptist church, on my next trip to Beckley I will try to swing by and get you some pictures with my digital. Pam > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:39:47 -1000 > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Foundbirth recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > Pam, The road used to be called Walnut Road but my cousin says they have put > numbers on everything now. I remember that we got on the road in the south > half of Kopperston area. I'd never drive that road myself if it is still > like it was. I didn't even like riding a horse on it. It goes right through > the Gap. Beautiful view in the fall. My granfather's family milled timber > around the gap for people. I still have a table that he made from a burl off > a walnut tree in that gap. It's inlaid with American Chestnut and two kinds > of oak....all from the gap in 1896. > > Hope you can find the road. I'd love to see that view again....but only if > that road is in better condition than it was! Some place I have some > pictures that we took from up there when I was just a girl....they are black > and white but they still bring back the memories of the most spectacular > fall colors on the face of the earth! They say if is beautiful here in > Hawaii but to me it can't hold a candle to the beauty in West Virginia! > Guess they've just never been there to see what real beauty is. > > Let me know if you can't find it and I'll call my cousin again to see if he > can give a little more detailed directions. I drive by land-marks > myself....not signs.....they cut a tree down and I'm lost! > > Sheila > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Honaker" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Foundbirth > recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > >> >> I'm lost, don't know much about Boone County, but the CR 85-2 has thrown >> me for a loop. >> I am gonna have to pay more attention to the signs I guess. I don't >> recall seeing a sign >> saying CR85-2 in Kopperston. Bout the only turn offs that I am aware of, >> dead ends. >> >> Pam >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:08:34 -1000 >>> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth >>> recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess >>> >>> Walnut Gap is just North of Kopperston. You can turn off 85 onto a road >>> they >>> call CR 85-2 now days, in Wyoming Co. When you go through the Gap into >>> Boone >>> Co it becomes CR 11-4. It follows Skin Fork. It's not much of a >>> road....or >>> wasn't when I was there several years back.... >>> >>> SheilaM >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last.  Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033

Hi Debbie; Are you the one who informed us about the two churches of Christ at Ranger ? I knew the minister(Shelton Toppings). I think I know the other minister also. You said he was a Nelson. Probably either Joe, or Clyde Nelson(sons of Sherman Nelson) They are all good people. Shelby B. ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Oh, Pam that would be wonderful! He said that he believes there is still a vacant field of some sort on the right side of Wlanut Road. He's going to try to send some kind of map via e-mail when he gets home from work. I'll send it to your private e-mail if that is okay with you. Wish I could see it again! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Honaker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Sheila, I go by landmarks also. LOL If you talk to your cousin and can get me some directions using the Post Office, the mine, Aliff's or Wade's old store, the old school or Toneda Baptist church, on my next trip to Beckley I will try to swing by and get you some pictures with my digital. Pam > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:39:47 -1000 > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Foundbirth > recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > Pam, The road used to be called Walnut Road but my cousin says they have > put > numbers on everything now. I remember that we got on the road in the south > half of Kopperston area. I'd never drive that road myself if it is still > like it was. I didn't even like riding a horse on it. It goes right > through > the Gap. Beautiful view in the fall. My granfather's family milled timber > around the gap for people. I still have a table that he made from a burl > off > a walnut tree in that gap. It's inlaid with American Chestnut and two > kinds > of oak....all from the gap in 1896. > > Hope you can find the road. I'd love to see that view again....but only if > that road is in better condition than it was! Some place I have some > pictures that we took from up there when I was just a girl....they are > black > and white but they still bring back the memories of the most spectacular > fall colors on the face of the earth! They say if is beautiful here in > Hawaii but to me it can't hold a candle to the beauty in West Virginia! > Guess they've just never been there to see what real beauty is. > > Let me know if you can't find it and I'll call my cousin again to see if > he > can give a little more detailed directions. I drive by land-marks > myself....not signs.....they cut a tree down and I'm lost! > > Sheila > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pam Honaker" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Foundbirth > recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > >> >> I'm lost, don't know much about Boone County, but the CR 85-2 has thrown >> me for a loop. >> I am gonna have to pay more attention to the signs I guess. I don't >> recall seeing a sign >> saying CR85-2 in Kopperston. Bout the only turn offs that I am aware of, >> dead ends. >> >> Pam >> >>> From: [email protected] >>> To: [email protected] >>> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:08:34 -1000 >>> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth >>> recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess >>> >>> Walnut Gap is just North of Kopperston. You can turn off 85 onto a road >>> they >>> call CR 85-2 now days, in Wyoming Co. When you go through the Gap into >>> Boone >>> Co it becomes CR 11-4. It follows Skin Fork. It's not much of a >>> road....or >>> wasn't when I was there several years back.... >>> >>> SheilaM >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook – together at last. Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=CL100626971033 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Joyce, the picture you are talking about is currently located at http://www.firstalertalums.com/wvlogan/guyancoal.htm It will be moving the loganwv.net site as soon as I get to the photo section. Laura -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Yonts, Joyce Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Logan Banner Laura, could you send that picture out again. 2 of the men were my dad's cousins. The Vanover men. Thanks, it is fun reading this website. Joyce, daughter of Franklin Vanover Joyce L. Yonts Client Service Representative 571-423-3000 [email protected] "People Making A Difference " american-flag-2a.jpg -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laura Loding Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:25 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [WVLOGAN] Logan Banner Shelby are you talking about the guestbook? Someone posted the info about my mining picture on the guestbook, and within 2 days I had all the men identified. It was pretty nifty. Laura ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm lost, don't know much about Boone County, but the CR 85-2 has thrown me for a loop. I am gonna have to pay more attention to the signs I guess. I don't recall seeing a sign saying CR85-2 in Kopperston. Bout the only turn offs that I am aware of, dead ends. Pam > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:08:34 -1000 > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > Walnut Gap is just North of Kopperston. You can turn off 85 onto a road they > call CR 85-2 now days, in Wyoming Co. When you go through the Gap into Boone > Co it becomes CR 11-4. It follows Skin Fork. It's not much of a road....or > wasn't when I was there several years back.... > > SheilaM > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Laura Loding" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:03 AM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth > recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > >> Jim, >> >> Sorry I haven't been back with you yet. We had to put one of the puppies >> down last week, and I have been a little depressed and mournful as she was >> an extremely sweet puppy, and had had a hard life for just 13 weeks old. >> >> I did a quick search at topo zone and found walnut gap on the >> Logan/Wyoming >> boarder >> >> http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=37.7675&lon=-81.56611 >> >> Laura >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of Jim >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth record >> ofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess >> >> Shelby, >> >> I did a google for Walnut Gap and found info on Walnut Gap in Kanawha >> Certainly not Huff Creek to Pond Fork. >> >> I drove up Buffalo Creek about four years and saw nothing but huge >> mountains. I do not see how anyone could get from the head of Buffalo >> Creek >> Into Boone county. You are correct I am sure - just wondering where this >> gap is? >> >> I have never heard of Walnut Gap which is not surprising. >> >> As you know Everett White told me that Tandy and Thomas Burgess lived at >> Pond Fork for a while. The 1822 deed in Cabell County states that Thomas >> Burgess leased land for $1.00 per anum - Do not see how he ever lived at >> Pond Fork - wish we could document what old Everett White said. >> >> It is a million to one chance that we would find a cemetery etc. >> Cornelius >> Burgess died at Orange or Orgus in 1897 I think. Orgus must be close to >> Walnut Gap. >> >> Do you know of a map that talks about Walnut gap. This could be really >> Important information to the Burgess family. >> >> By the way I found a birth record on Amanda Rachel Camel Burgess which >> states that she was the daughter of Samuel Burgess and Amanda Shelton. >> >> So much for my stupid reasoning. I have corrected all my records to >> Indicate the above. We need to learn more about this Samuel Burgess. >> >> Where did this guy come from? >> >> Don't you dare leave this mailing list. You are my family! >> >> Thanks >> >> Jim Burgess >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> On >> Behalf Of [email protected] >> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:58 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] 1850 Wyoming County, Virginia Census missing >> families >> >>>From the head of Huff creek, to the head of Pond Fork, is just a short >> hike(Walnut gap) Im not surprised the Wyomong county folks, and the Boone >> co. folks >> intermingled.The Tolers, Blankenships,crossed the gap to visit with the >> Workmans, Whites in Boone, & vice versa. Boone & Wyoming should never have >> been >> split,. >> >> Shelby >> >> >> ************************************** >> See what's new at >> http://www.aol.com >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us

Lois that's Coal Branch and it hasn't changed. Dempsey Branch is where the college is. You still enter from the same point only the road has been routed around the college a bit and they took out part of the upper hollow and cemetery when they put the highway through. Debbie --------------------------------- Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel.

Stan; I had some experience with swinging bridges at Ottawa, Boone co. WV.I did all those antics you did , and probably some extra, lol Not much money was available for bridges, so the county had to do it on the cheap. Later, in the headwaters of Spruce Fork, we built our own footbridges We had two cribs full of rocks on each end. and two sturdy logs laid across them.Scrap lumber was the decking. The bridges would last till the next big flood, then we would have build all over again. Oh ,well, it was something to do ! Up the hollows, single logs were used to get to the otherside.My uncle Scott Burgess and his son (Red) were going up Pigeon Roost hollow one evening. Uncle Scott was tipsy, and wouldnt hardly walk. They got to the footlog, and midway Red pushed him a bit, so he fell in the cold creek. He sobered up fast then , and walked on to the fire at home to dry off. lol ! Shelby ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

She lives in Lakeland. The only one that I know of that might have a picture is Elam Richards, but my cousin, Joe Hensley said he wasn't big on letting anyone go through his photos. I went to that school also, 1st & 2nd teacher, I believe was Miss Daniels and 3rd & 4th was Mr. Bias, he only had one arm, but could still paddle hard with his good one. Johnny ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Browning" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The Church oLogan CoRE Dodie and Jim > Johnny, > Barbara and I were friends in first and second grade!!! I live in FL > too. What city is she in? Do you know of anyone who might have a picture > of that little two room school we attended? There aren't many people > around who even know there was a school at Coal Branch Hollar. Did you go > to school there? I lived on top of City View Hill. > Dodie > > > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who > knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have more fond memories of frogs and snakes and church, but for this installment of stories from my youth growing up in the shadow of the Guyandotte, I want to retell some memories of another of the relics from my past, namely swinging bridges; or, more specifically, one swinging bridge. Although the reader may not be able to connect with the particular bridge considered herein, most will relate to a bygone era when swinging bridges were a common landmark throughout the area. My subject spanned the Laurel Fork river at Matheny, WV. at the exact point where Coon branch empties into Laurel Fork. During my boyhood days prior to WW II, it afforded the only access to foot traffic from the main highway up Coon Branch and the other hollers that branch off from the Matheny area. Vehicular traffic and horses used a ford, which was located a couple hundred feet downstream from the bridge. To ford the river if the water was only a little high. it was necessary that drivers remove the fan belt from their car or truck to prevent the fan from throwing water upward onto the electrical parts and thus cause the motor to be "drowned out." If there was a threat of high water, residents on the Branch left their vehicles parked at the bridge. In cold weather, before the advent of hydraulic brakes, the old mechanical brakes on the cars would freeze up after being driven through the ford and then parked overnight. A teakettle full of boiling water was the solution for that problem. Schools, churches, stores and such were on the other side of the river from Coon Branch, so the bridge was a part of the lifeline for people living on "The Branch" and even some people from the headwaters of Turkey Creek. People who lived downstream toward and beyond the Matheny Methodist church either waded the stream or walked up the river to the "Mouth of the Branch" to cross. Strange as it may seem, except for flood stage, there was much more water flowing in the Laurel Fork in those days than now. It was crystal clear and never was known to go dry anywhere. Wadeing was not always an option. The swinging bridge was supported on two large diameter steel cables. On each end the cables were anchored to the ground and extended upward at an angle over wooden beams high in the air and supported by two large wooden columns. The bridge supports which were 10-12 feet tall were stationed high on the riverbank such that catenaries formed by the two identically positioned cables were about twenty plus feet above the water at their lowest point. Steel rods were clamped to the cables at intervals along the span. Wooden supports were fastened to the ends of the rods to form a u-shaped cradle for runners over which the wooden walkway and handrails were constructed. As stated earlier, this bridge received heavy traffic and seemed to be in constant need of repairs. As the boards would decay and break, large holes were left in the walkway creating a hazard that aroused the concern of many a parent. Also, one was in danger of breaking through a plank that was weakened but its condition was not evident by outward appearances. We as youngsters were repeatidly cautioned to "be careful around the old bridge on your way from school." But all that didn't prevent my generation from performing all sorts of acrobatics and games on the old bridge. We "skinned-the-cat" and chinned ourselves on the cables and competed with one another by trying to see who could traverse the cables hand over hand for the longest distances without having to drop off. The cables on each end were worn shiney by constant use in a way not expected by the erectors. The greatest bridge game of all was "scare the girls." I don't need to tell, you already know what comes naturally for young boys who manage to catch a group of girls half-way across a swinging bridge. The temptation is too great and the next step is inevitable. However, it is so much fun just to relive this exciting experience, I will explain. Now each swinging bridge has a character of its own. I would learn much later from my physics classes in engineering school that this is called its natural frequency. Although we didn't know what to call it back then we knew that even walking on some swinging bridges could be daunting if our steps were not in harmony with the response of the bridge. When a bunch of boys apply their weight simultaneously at the right frequency to a suspension bridge, they can create a sine wave of such amplitude that by all appearances to a group of hysterical girls it was surely going to launch them into orbit. Since we all had to cross that bridge as we walked home from school, you do not have to guess how often we got to play our game. That is until Mr Walker found out about what was going on. He didn't bother to explain natural frequencies and such high-tech stuff, or even why we should respect the weaker sex; he simply held a "meeting of the board." It was not necessary that he justify his punitive measures to either the parents or the school board. More on the old swinging bridge later on. My wife just walked in and I don't want her to read this. One time, before she was my wife, I attempted to pull the same shinanigans with her on a large swinging bridge across the Guyandotte in the vicinity of the present R.D. Bailey Dam. It was a sore subject then and still is. I don't want to remind her and chance having to spend the night in the garage. More later. I look forward to your tales about your favorite swinging bridge(s), STAN

Not a problem on the spelling I have seen it both ways, we up the hollar always spelled it Coal. Yes I do, she is the last of my siblings and now resides in FL. Johnny ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Browning" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The Church oLogan CoRE Dodie and Jim > Johnny, > I may know you??? Did you have a sister, Barbara Evans? Sorry that I > misspelled Coal Branch in my last post. > Dodie

Johnny, If you have a phone number and/or Email for Elam Richards or Joe Hensley, would you send them to me in a PRIVATE email? I have tried to find a picture of that little school house for years. Sure would love to have a picture for my Logan County Nostalgia web site. I would also love to call Barbara if you would send me her phone number. It would be fun to see if she remembers me. You must be quite a bit younger than Barbara and me? We had Luna (Peyton) Fortner in 1st and 2nd grade and Mrs Stickler (can't remember her first name) in 3rd and 4th grade. Mrs Stickler was the principal. Both ladies jnew what the paddle was for and used them daily. They would be in jail for child abuse today<grin> Some of the other "kids" I remember from Coal Branch School are: Paul Collins, Louise Maynard, Alfred Vance, Jimmy Hale, Ted Sibley, Lucille McVey and Virginia Curtis. I see Paul Collins at our Class of 55 Reunions and we have often wondered what ever happened to some of our classmates from that little school in the Hollow.. What surnames are you researching? I have a hunch that you and I may be cousins. I know that I am related to ALL of the Hensleys in Logan County and some of the Evans families, but not sure which contemporary generations of Evans. Dodie --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.

Pam, The road used to be called Walnut Road but my cousin says they have put numbers on everything now. I remember that we got on the road in the south half of Kopperston area. I'd never drive that road myself if it is still like it was. I didn't even like riding a horse on it. It goes right through the Gap. Beautiful view in the fall. My granfather's family milled timber around the gap for people. I still have a table that he made from a burl off a walnut tree in that gap. It's inlaid with American Chestnut and two kinds of oak....all from the gap in 1896. Hope you can find the road. I'd love to see that view again....but only if that road is in better condition than it was! Some place I have some pictures that we took from up there when I was just a girl....they are black and white but they still bring back the memories of the most spectacular fall colors on the face of the earth! They say if is beautiful here in Hawaii but to me it can't hold a candle to the beauty in West Virginia! Guess they've just never been there to see what real beauty is. Let me know if you can't find it and I'll call my cousin again to see if he can give a little more detailed directions. I drive by land-marks myself....not signs.....they cut a tree down and I'm lost! Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pam Honaker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Foundbirth recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > I'm lost, don't know much about Boone County, but the CR 85-2 has thrown > me for a loop. > I am gonna have to pay more attention to the signs I guess. I don't > recall seeing a sign > saying CR85-2 in Kopperston. Bout the only turn offs that I am aware of, > dead ends. > > Pam > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:08:34 -1000 > > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth > > recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > > > Walnut Gap is just North of Kopperston. You can turn off 85 onto a road > > they > > call CR 85-2 now days, in Wyoming Co. When you go through the Gap into > > Boone > > Co it becomes CR 11-4. It follows Skin Fork. It's not much of a > > road....or > > wasn't when I was there several years back.... > > > > SheilaM > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Laura Loding" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 3:03 AM > > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth > > recordofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > > > > > >> Jim, > >> > >> Sorry I haven't been back with you yet. We had to put one of the > >> puppies > >> down last week, and I have been a little depressed and mournful as she > >> was > >> an extremely sweet puppy, and had had a hard life for just 13 weeks > >> old. > >> > >> I did a quick search at topo zone and found walnut gap on the > >> Logan/Wyoming > >> boarder > >> > >> http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?lat=37.7675&lon=-81.56611 > >> > >> Laura > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On > >> Behalf Of Jim > >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:23 PM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: [WVLOGAN] Where in the world is Walnut Gap? Found birth record > >> ofAmanda Camel Rachel Burgess > >> > >> Shelby, > >> > >> I did a google for Walnut Gap and found info on Walnut Gap in Kanawha > >> Certainly not Huff Creek to Pond Fork. > >> > >> I drove up Buffalo Creek about four years and saw nothing but huge > >> mountains. I do not see how anyone could get from the head of Buffalo > >> Creek > >> Into Boone county. You are correct I am sure - just wondering where > >> this > >> gap is? > >> > >> I have never heard of Walnut Gap which is not surprising. > >> > >> As you know Everett White told me that Tandy and Thomas Burgess lived > >> at > >> Pond Fork for a while. The 1822 deed in Cabell County states that > >> Thomas > >> Burgess leased land for $1.00 per anum - Do not see how he ever lived > >> at > >> Pond Fork - wish we could document what old Everett White said. > >> > >> It is a million to one chance that we would find a cemetery etc. > >> Cornelius > >> Burgess died at Orange or Orgus in 1897 I think. Orgus must be close to > >> Walnut Gap. > >> > >> Do you know of a map that talks about Walnut gap. This could be really > >> Important information to the Burgess family. > >> > >> By the way I found a birth record on Amanda Rachel Camel Burgess which > >> states that she was the daughter of Samuel Burgess and Amanda Shelton. > >> > >> So much for my stupid reasoning. I have corrected all my records to > >> Indicate the above. We need to learn more about this Samuel Burgess. > >> > >> Where did this guy come from? > >> > >> Don't you dare leave this mailing list. You are my family! > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Jim Burgess > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] > >> On > >> Behalf Of [email protected] > >> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2007 4:58 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] 1850 Wyoming County, Virginia Census missing > >> families > >> > >>>From the head of Huff creek, to the head of Pond Fork, is just a short > >> hike(Walnut gap) Im not surprised the Wyomong county folks, and the > >> Boone > >> co. folks > >> intermingled.The Tolers, Blankenships,crossed the gap to visit with the > >> Workmans, Whites in Boone, & vice versa. Boone & Wyoming should never > >> have > >> been > >> split,. > >> > >> Shelby > >> > >> > >> ************************************** > >> See what's new at > >> http://www.aol.com > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. 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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of STANLEY BROWNING Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 4:09 PM To: [email protected]> Subject: [WVLOGAN] Growing Up in West Virginia I have more fond memories of frogs and snakes and church, but for this installment of stories from my youth growing up in the shadow of the Guyandotte, I want to retell some memories of another of the relics from my past, namely swinging bridges; or, more specifically, one swinging bridge. Although the reader may not be able to connect with the particular bridge considered herein, most will relate to a bygone era when swinging bridges were a common landmark throughout the area. My subject spanned the Laurel Fork river at Matheny, WV. at the exact point where Coon branch empties into Laurel Fork. During my boyhood days prior to WW II, it afforded the only access to foot traffic from the main highway up Coon Branch and the other hollers that branch off from the Matheny area. Vehicular traffic and horses used a ford, which was located a couple hundred feet downstream from the bridge. To ford the river if the water was only a little high. it was necessary that drivers remove the fan belt from their car or truck to prevent the fan from throwing water upward onto the electrical parts and thus cause the motor to be "drowned out." If there was a threat of high water, residents on the Branch left their vehicles parked at the bridge. In cold weather, before the advent of hydraulic brakes, the old mechanical brakes on the cars would freeze up after being driven through the ford and then parked overnight. A teakettle full of boiling water was the solution for that problem. Schools, churches, stores and such were on the other side of the river from Coon Branch, so the bridge was a part of the lifeline for people living on "The Branch" and even some people from the headwaters of Turkey Creek. People who lived downstream toward and beyond the Matheny Methodist church either waded the stream or walked up the river to the "Mouth of the Branch" to cross. Strange as it may seem, except for flood stage, there was much more water flowing in the Laurel Fork in those days than now. It was crystal clear and never was known to go dry anywhere. Wadeing was not always an option. The swinging bridge was supported on two large diameter steel cables. On each end the cables were anchored to the ground and extended upward at an angle over wooden beams high in the air and supported by two large wooden columns. The bridge supports which were 10-12 feet tall were stationed high on the riverbank such that catenaries formed by the two identically positioned cables were about twenty plus feet above the water at their lowest point. Steel rods were clamped to the cables at intervals along the span. Wooden supports were fastened to the ends of the rods to form a u-shaped cradle for runners over which the wooden walkway and handrails were constructed. As stated earlier, this bridge received heavy traffic and seemed to be in constant need of repairs. As the boards would decay and break, large holes were left in the walkway creating a hazard that aroused the concern of many a parent. Also, one was in danger of breaking through a plank that was weakened but its condition was not evident by outward appearances. We as youngsters were repeatidly cautioned to "be careful around the old bridge on your way from school." But all that didn't prevent my generation from performing all sorts of acrobatics and games on the old bridge. We "skinned-the-cat" and chinned ourselves on the cables and competed with one another by trying to see who could traverse the cables hand over hand for the longest distances without having to drop off. The cables on each end were worn shiney by constant use in a way not expected by the erectors. The greatest bridge game of all was "scare the girls." I don't need to tell, you already know what comes naturally for young boys who manage to catch a group of girls half-way across a swinging bridge. The temptation is too great and the next step is inevitable. However, it is so much fun just to relive this exciting experience, I will explain. Now each swinging bridge has a character of its own. I would learn much later from my physics classes in engineering school that this is called its natural frequency. Although we didn't know what to call it back then we knew that even walking on some swinging bridges could be daunting if our steps were not in harmony with the response of the bridge. When a bunch of boys apply their weight simultaneously at the right frequency to a suspension bridge, they can create a sine wave of such amplitude that by all appearances to a group of hysterical girls it was surely going to launch them into orbit. Since we all had to cross that bridge as we walked home from school, you do not have to guess how often we got to play our game. That is until Mr Walker found out about what was going on. He didn't bother to explain natural frequencies and such high-tech stuff, or even why we should respect the weaker sex; he simply held a "meeting of the board." It was not necessary that he justify his punitive measures to either the parents or the school board. More on the old swinging bridge later on. My wife just walked in and I don't want her to read this. One time, before she was my wife, I attempted to pull the same shinanigans with her on a large swinging bridge across the Guyandotte in the vicinity of the present R.D. Bailey Dam. It was a sore subject then and still is. I don't want to remind her and chance having to spend the night in the garage. More later. I look forward to your tales about your favorite swinging bridge(s), STAN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Johnny, Barbara and I were friends in first and second grade!!! I live in FL too. What city is she in? Do you know of anyone who might have a picture of that little two room school we attended? There aren't many people around who even know there was a school at Coal Branch Hollar. Did you go to school there? I lived on top of City View Hill. Dodie --------------------------------- Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.

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Lois, Thank you, Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: "LOIS THOMPSON" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:33 AM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The Church oLogan CoRE Dodie and Jim JUDI AS FAR AS I KNOW THE ROAD TO DEMPSEY BRANCH HAS BEEN IN THE SAME LOCATION SINCE 1952------I AM NOW 68---------AT THE ENTRANCE WAS THE OLD ARACOMA HIGH SCHOOL ----THEN WAS ONE OF THE LOGAN CO JR HIGH SCHOOLS----NOW IT IS THE AREA OF THE LOGAN COUNTY SCHOOL BUS GARAGE-----MAKE SENSE??? LOIS ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The Church oLogan CoRE Dodie and Jim > Dodie and Jim. > My Clark grandparents moved "up" Dempsey Branch in the middle 1930's. There > was not a road to drive up it and only a few houses. > Unfortunately no one is left for me to ask about a church(I am thinking > though if any of my cousins who would have went to visit ) > Dad was a young man still living at home as were some of his brothers. > They tore out a path and made way a dirt road to drive up as far as my > grandparents home. Others who lived on past took it from there and made the > road go further. > My parents married June of 1941 and my grandfather Van Buren Clark died June > of 1942. My folks had lived in the home place and my oldest sister was born > there just two weeks before he died. One of my Aunts came to live with my > grandmother (and her children) and my parents moved to the Spry apartments > which I last saw named Townmart were still there in the 1980's. (that name > I question, I am typing w/o looking this up) > We took my parents home in 1980 and (a three car trip of my family) stopped > at the entrance of the drive up into Dempsey. This was before the change. > The kids ran up and down the road that "grandpa" built. > At that time it was still the way up into Dempsey, but of course all of the > work might have changed that. > I have a picture of the house on my computer but on that trip I took slides > that I have never transferred but my brother has photos on his computers I > believe. I am now curious as to where the entrance of that road began. > well, sorry for going on, just my sister was born there and my grandfather > died in the same house. > Judi > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 4:27 PM > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter DaySaintsinLogan > County The Mormans > > > Dodie, > > I am not qualified to answer your question. As I mentioned in my email > What I stated was to the best of my knowledge. > > I called some friends in Logan who will be able to answer your questions and > left a message for them. As I cannot answer them with certainty. > > I know that they met at the home of Ora Collins for a while. I know that > they met at the home of William Anderson "Hent" Vance and Easter Sunday > Thompson. > > If I can get more information I will be happy to share the information. > > I have been up Dempsey Branch several times - not sure that I could drive > there today as the new freeway ran across it. It was a very windy mountain > Road. The house were right on the edge of the road. I know for sure that > the Vance cemetery there was moved to Pecks Mill. > > That is the extent of this old man's knowledge. > > Thanks for asking. > > Jim Burgess > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of D Browning > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2007 8:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day > SaintsinLogan County The Mormans > > Jim, > Do you have any documentation "The Logan Branch [Mormons] held meeting > At Dempsey Branch from the 1880's until the 1960's when they moved to Pecks > Mill"? What is the location of the Dempsey Branch to which you referred? > Did they meet in someone's home? If so, do you know whose home? > > My sister (now age 80) lived at Dempsey Branch (Logan County) in the late > 1940s and early 1950s and she states that the only churches at Dempsey > Branch, was a Church Of God (that she attended) and "The Church Of Our Lord > Jesus Christ" (better known as Jesus Only). It was a Pentecostal church. My > mother was a member of that church until she died in 1961. I attended with > her until I was 12 years old. Could it be possible that "The Church Of Our > Lord Jesus Christ" at Dempsey Branch has been confused as a Mormon Church? > I can state categorically that it was Pentecostal. My sister said she never > heard of any Mormons at Dempsey Branch when she lived there in late 1940s > and early 1950s. (Neither did I). I lived at Dempsey Branch for one school > semester when I was in 9th grade (1952). Dempsey Branch was a pretty small > hollow and most everyone that lived up there was related to me. > > You mentioned that Luke Curry was a Mormon. My Aunt Almeda (my > grandmother's sister) was married to a Luke Curry and they were Baptist. > (They did not live at Dempsey Branch) I attended both their funerals. I > was in 7th grade when Aunt Almeda died. Uncle Luke died a few years after > Aunt Almeda died. I knew them well and loved them dearly. > Dodie (Smith) Browning > > > > > --------------------------------- > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! 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