Shelby. We too kept geese for all the same reasons you mention. Our flock had a habit of wandering off up the "holler" behind our house for about a half mile uphill and then sailing back down. Only problem is they didn't make it back to their starting point and we had to gather geese from all over the community. Its hard to put a brand on an angry gander so we clipped a few feathers from only one wing of each goose so that they went around in circles when they tried to fly. That solved our problem. STAN On Nov 23, 2007, at 8:13 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Although goose eggs were too strong for human consumption, they > were part of > the homestead. Their Down & feathers were valuable for bedding. > This time of > the year, in southern WV, it was a standing joke, when the geese > were plucked, > " its either snowing, or grandma is picking her geese" ! Geese were > self > sustaining, as they lived off weeds. No lawn mowers were needed, as > the geese did > the landscaping. How many of you have slept in a feather bed ? its > the most > comfortable bed I have ever found yet. I remember visiting my aunt > Eliza > Burgess(wife of uncle Scott).She had one old mean gander who loved > to knock down > small kids I was his target several times ! The geese were > excellent guards, as > they trumpited every strangers approach. They lived almost as long > as humans > do. > > Shelby > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? > NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ed; I never worked in #22 or 27 Island creek mines, but did work in #7, which is the same coal seam, as the other two mines.All were declared "gassy" mines; no smoking, or open fires were allowed. # 7 never had any explosions.I'm inclined to believe the #22 mine exlosion was caused by bad ventilation problems.The air was short circuited, resulting in the terrible explosion that killed all those miners..A huge fan pulls the air from the main entry throughout a mine,so any gas is diluted, and harmless. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

My dad worked #22. One of many. Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] "Ole Kump" Hi Ed; I never worked in #22 or 27 Island creek mines, but did work in #7, which is the same coal seam, as the other two mines.All were declared "gassy" mines; no smoking, or open fires were allowed. # 7 never had any explosions.I'm inclined to believe the #22 mine exlosion was caused by bad ventilation problems.The air was short circuited, resulting in the terrible explosion that killed all those miners..A huge fan pulls the air from the main entry throughout a mine,so any gas is diluted, and harmless. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mr. Burgess and others, I for one would like to hear your stories of the mines. If the ancestors worked in them- they are part of the family histories. No one but the miners can tell the stories of working the mines as a first hand experience. I appreciate all the stories. Your 'stories' bring to life the lives of the ancestors. Their lives were more than a birth date, marriage, list of kids, and their deaths. Your stories help fill in the times of their lives. Bring them on!! Gloria Damron > Ok by me on doing some coal mining stories, Stan. But I will have to get the > list approval first.Some may be boring to people who dont know mining. Lets > hear it if you readers approve. > > Shelby > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Guys, I am all for the stories myself as besides my daddy I had many men in my family who worked in the mines. I believe if you subject carefully, as "OTS" and we all update our "RE OTS" it should not be an inconvenience to anyone. So if I count, you have my vote to type on. Judi

Hello Shelby - I would like to hear some mining stories. Coal mining became such a big part of our culture. Cousin Rick On Nov 23, 2007 3:27 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Ok by me on doing some coal mining stories, Stan. But I will have to get > the > list approval first.Some may be boring to people who dont know mining. > Lets > hear it if you readers approve. > > Shelby > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Shelby Lets hear some coal mining stories! Do you know anything about Island Creek No. 22 or No 27? Ed -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 4:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] "Ole Kump" Ok by me on doing some coal mining stories, Stan. But I will have to get the list approval first.Some may be boring to people who dont know mining. Lets hear it if you readers approve. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 9:19 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.4/1147 - Release Date: 11/23/2007 9:19 AM

Ok by me on doing some coal mining stories, Stan. But I will have to get the list approval first.Some may be boring to people who dont know mining. Lets hear it if you readers approve. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Shelby, You are an expert at getting me sidetracked, but I must tell you more about "Ole Kump." You are correct; he was named after governor Kump, who served 1933 to 1937. Old Kump, the dog, never appeared to get excited about most things, but would lie around the house all day most days giving evidence of life only by an occasional snap at a hornet that came too close to him or a walk to the branch that flowed by our house to get a drink of water. He was an outside dog and never expressed any desire to come in the house, summer or winter. But old Kump hated snakes. He hunted them. And he found them too. He was a snake-killing machine. He would grab a copperhead by its middle and shake it violently from side to side until it lay senseless on the ground. He then applied the coup-de-grace by biting it to death. Every summer, he was practically eaten up by snakes and his head was scarred all over and swollen until he resembled a pig on steroids. But he kept going after the snakes. One day ole Kump did not return from one of his hunts. Now an old guy, we figured he had chosen to find some isolated place where he could die without being bothered by unwanted attention or fruitless efforts to prolong his life. STAN By the way, I enjoy your coal mining stories. Its a subject that I know little about but enjoy hearing the old miners talk about. One thing that impresses me is that a miner never seems to forget men they have worked with and rarely will they miss the funeral of one of their own. SB On Nov 23, 2007, at 10:24 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Ha, ha; > I know how the dog got his name, Stanley; Kump was governor of WV > back in the > hardtimes 1930 s. Kump & Hoover, the president,took their share of > the blame > for all our economic woes back then ! We kids called our patched > up clothes > :Hoover badges " <grin> Nowadays, the kids cut holes in their new > pants; back > then we patched em to keep out the winter cold.What a difference in > today's > youth, and what we had to endure back then ! > > Shelby > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007? > NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to WVLOGAN- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

Ha, ha; I know how the dog got his name, Stanley; Kump was governor of WV back in the hardtimes 1930 s. Kump & Hoover, the president,took their share of the blame for all our economic woes back then ! We kids called our patched up clothes :Hoover badges " <grin> Nowadays, the kids cut holes in their new pants; back then we patched em to keep out the winter cold.What a difference in today's youth, and what we had to endure back then ! Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Although goose eggs were too strong for human consumption, they were part of the homestead. Their Down & feathers were valuable for bedding. This time of the year, in southern WV, it was a standing joke, when the geese were plucked, " its either snowing, or grandma is picking her geese" ! Geese were self sustaining, as they lived off weeds. No lawn mowers were needed, as the geese did the landscaping. How many of you have slept in a feather bed ? its the most comfortable bed I have ever found yet. I remember visiting my aunt Eliza Burgess(wife of uncle Scott).She had one old mean gander who loved to knock down small kids I was his target several times ! The geese were excellent guards, as they trumpited every strangers approach. They lived almost as long as humans do. Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Dodie, Thanks for bringing up to speed. She might one day be interested in Drewry then. Pretty stuffed here too, but unlike you probably:( winter set in and we had some snow flurries and brrrr dipped under freezing again. Being a transplanted Hoosier as I am though I am all "Blue" so I had my blood warmed up with the Colts victory last night. cousin Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Browning" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:51 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] re Dodie and Shelby re Dodie Hi Judi, I meant the picture and dates you mentioned were before my time. I do have a Steele line and Drewy was be a distant cousin. I was related to most of the Steeles in Logan County, but did not personally know all of them. I didn't add the later generations to my work- felt that was up to their family members to plug into my documented Steele research on the ancestors. I still have people "plugging in"- some want to be added to my "Families Of Steele" website, while others send me their information but prefer it not be put online. Thomas Beverly Steele was one of the branches on which I have quite a bit of information, but have been waiting several years for a descendant to write her family history. She sent me some very interesting information on him, but I have not been to go to Logan to document it and she had not documented it either. She just knows what was told to her by her grandmother. Hope you had a great day too and that you don't feel as "stuffed" as I do tonight. Dodie [email protected] wrote: Thanks Dodie, I was confused, no surprise, I was thinking you had a "Steele" branch. Hope you had a great day, and that you feel better. cousin Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Browning" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] re Dodie and Shelby Hi Judi, That was before my time, but I believe that Drewy was s/o Thomas Beverly Steele. TB had at least two marriages. T.B was s/ol Lewis Steele and Charlotte Smith (no known relation to my Smiths or yours. Dodie --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

TO: Mailing List FROM: Stan Browning As a means of trying to liven up the southern WV mailing lists, I have presented a few personal stories from my past to illustrate how things were in southern West Virginia when I was growing up. My hope is that others will do the same. We all, because of age differences and backgrounds, have unique stories to tell. In my case, some are good and some are bad as illustrated by this, my latest offering. Note some of the ways youngsters amused themselves in those days. Were we any different from many of the bored youngsters of today? ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I believe it was 1938 and I was spending the summer with Aunt Ruth, Uncle Sefton and Junior Workman on Coon Branch, Matheny, West Virginia. It was before I went to live there permanently. An old yellow Tomcat had taken up at their house and all efforts to get rid of it had failed. That was one ill-tempered and all-around mean feline. He terrorized the other cats and even tried to intimidate old Kump with his hissing and threats. Old Kump, the family dog, just ignored him or was simply too lazy or tired to respond. Aunt Ruth would make a pet out of any animal that would let her, so in spite of the fact that she wanted the cat to leave, she continued to set milk out in the yard so that he would not go hungry. The rest of us loathed that animal. There was no way to convince Aunt Ruth that a well-aimed shotgun blast was the solution. I don’t know who suggested it, but somehow Junior and I came up with what we thought was a perfect solution. We would tie a tin can to the cat’s tail. We got our can, put a handful of gravel in it, attached a short piece of string and took off to look for our victim. We finally cornered him in the woodshed and one of us held him while the other attached the can. To this point, “ole yeller” did not realize the serious trouble he was in. However, when we shook the can and rattled the pebbles inside, he had no doubt it was time to hit the road. And hit the road he did. He broke all speed records in trying to get away, but he couldn’t shake that noisy demon that he was convinced was chasing him. It matched him stride for stride and continued the loud rattling noise all the way. Finally, our subject sought refuge under the floor of the smoke house, which was a special room attached to the woodshed, and there was no way we could coax or scare him out. By then he had lost the can, but he insisted on staying put nonetheless. After a couple of hours, Aunt Ruth arrived on the scene and sized up the situation. She then announced emphatically that we were responsible for that cat going under the floor so we had to figure how to get him out. There was only one way, and that was to empty all the junk from the wood-shed room and dismantle the floor. The task took the better part of an afternoon. The cat emerged as hateful as ever. He left on his own accord a few weeks later. Owing to our experience with the cat, we decided to try the same trick on old Kump. Old Kump was not impressed, but he tolerated us anyway as we attached the can to his tail. When we shook the can and rattled the pebbles, he simply rolled over and went back to sleep.

Hi, Is there someone on this list who could do a divorce look-up for me? I'm looking for the divorce date for this couple. They were divorced between 1943 and 1946 in Logan Co, WV. They are part of my family tree. Harry P. GILMORE - (born Nov. 1919) Dorothy Jean TOMBLIN - (born April 1921) (or her maiden name may be QUEEN) Since Harry GILMORE was in WWII at the time of the divorce, his step-mother went to court for him at the divorce hearing. Her name was Orva Rachel (PUCKETT CRAIGMILE) GILMORE. If you find the divorce document, I'd love to have a copy of it. If you need my snail mail address, please write to me at the address below. Thank you very much for your help! Sandy [email protected]

Dear Logan County Virginia Genealogist, My computer has been repaired and I am back to work. I have had 552 visits in the last couple of days. First I want to thank every one for the updates on their families. I am now caught up with every update. Cutting and pasting makes updates quick and easy. Also I want to thank everyone for the kind and enthusiastic comments. We are going to have fun with this project. Just a few thoughts - It is very important that we update one family at a time. I am storing the messages under Logan County Recreated and the surname that we are working on. I must file the email and response under the Main surname relating to the family for easy future retrieval. Also I will be able to help people communicate with others working on the same surname. It is very important that members of the list send all the documentation right the first time if possible. So far everyone seems to understand. Also I hope that you will help fill in all of the children in a family. We all know that some of the children move out and start families of their own. It is important that we know where they are going and all the related information. Again I am using the PAF program - I cannot control the references to LDS Sources. For the most part these responses are automatically coming from the program and are not really LDS Sources. I am really enjoying the documentation from other counties. Especially the beautiful Wills, death dates etc. I made the comment that Herndon Murphey did not appear in the 1860. I loved the comment that he did not appear in the 1860 census because he died in 1860. It is true that I have not researched many of these families. As some have said we have to start some where making the corrections. Remember that I have 3500 people that do not appear in the data base - if some one is missing let me know - I probably have them listed and can help you if they lived in Logan County between 1850 and 1860. I look forward to comments from Wyoming County folks whose ancestors are in the 1850 Wyoming County, West Virginia Census. Virginia Surnames is going to be as accurate as we can make it. Jim Burgess Virginiasurnames.com

Thanks Dodie, I was confused, no surprise, I was thinking you had a "Steele" branch. Hope you had a great day, and that you feel better. cousin Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Browning" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] re Dodie and Shelby Hi Judi, That was before my time, but I believe that Drewy was s/o Thomas Beverly Steele. TB had at least two marriages. T.B was s/ol Lewis Steele and Charlotte Smith (no known relation to my Smiths or yours. Dodie --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Judi, I meant the picture and dates you mentioned were before my time. I do have a Steele line and Drewy was be a distant cousin. I was related to most of the Steeles in Logan County, but did not personally know all of them. I didn't add the later generations to my work- felt that was up to their family members to plug into my documented Steele research on the ancestors. I still have people "plugging in"- some want to be added to my "Families Of Steele" website, while others send me their information but prefer it not be put online. Thomas Beverly Steele was one of the branches on which I have quite a bit of information, but have been waiting several years for a descendant to write her family history. She sent me some very interesting information on him, but I have not been to go to Logan to document it and she had not documented it either. She just knows what was told to her by her grandmother. Hope you had a great day too and that you don't feel as "stuffed" as I do tonight. Dodie [email protected] wrote: Thanks Dodie, I was confused, no surprise, I was thinking you had a "Steele" branch. Hope you had a great day, and that you feel better. cousin Judi ----- Original Message ----- From: "D Browning" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 8:12 PM Subject: Re: [WVLOGAN] re Dodie and Shelby Hi Judi, That was before my time, but I believe that Drewy was s/o Thomas Beverly Steele. TB had at least two marriages. T.B was s/ol Lewis Steele and Charlotte Smith (no known relation to my Smiths or yours. Dodie --------------------------------- Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Yahoo Mobile. Try it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Shelby...when I read that I had to laugh. My mom and dad are related no less than three times that I can find. Of Course the closest relation is 5th cousins. They to this day will NOT admit that they are related. As my mom's cousin married my dad's sister they too are related those same three times. I have been trying to find a link in my husband's family, but haven't found one yet. The only surname that we have in common so far is Smith, and we know that tracking Smiths are a needle in a haystack. His aunt did marry a Curry, so I've been trying to get more information on him, but that is still no blood to my husband. Laura -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 9:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [WVLOGAN] Are You And Your Spouce Related ? ots Dont be too quick in answering no, as its possable you may be distant kindred. My wife & I searched all through our past familys, and could not find any proof of we two being related.The closest we could come was old Phillip Hager of Germany possibly being our ancestor; UNTIL we got to the Vance family. there we hit pay dirt. Normas' 4 gr grandmother was Tabatha Vance(dau of Abner). My 4 gr grandmother was Tabatha's sibling(Alena Vance). So , we are cousins, however distant ! Happy Thanksgiving Cuz, Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Great news, Anita; We missed you while you were absent. It will all come back !!!!!!! Cuz Shelby ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)